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9 December 2012 3897 comments
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Three Premier League clashes, with little doubt on the headline act. The Manchester derby gets proceedings underway as City host United in the early kick-off. Spurs’ visit to Everton is the meat in the sandwich, while Liverpool’s trip to Upton Park rounds off Sunday’s matches. As usual, our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect your musings as the ninety minutes tick by.

The team news from the Etihad is intriguing. Mario Balotelli starts up front for City, with Carlos Tevez and Edin Dzeko left on the bench. Matija Nastasic is back alongside Vincent Kompany with Joleon Lescott benched as Gael Clichy returns from injury at left-back. Samir Nasri is in the midfield where he’s joined by David Silva who overcomes a slight hamstring concern to start. As for United, they bring in Antonio Valencia on his return to fitness, with Ashley Young on the opposite flank in an attacking lineup. Tom Cleverley overcomes a calf injury to take his place alongside Michael Carrick in midfield, while Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie start in tandem as expected. Rooney’s position will be of particular interest.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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    Could someone post the Liverpool line-up?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      Reina, GJ, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Allen, Lucas, Gerrard, Downing, Sterling, Shelvey

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    2. DLL18
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      Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Enrique, Allen, Lucas, Gerrard, Downing, Sterling, Shelvey

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        Cheers lads, Shelvey up front?

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          Yep

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  2. kaz 96
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    C'mon Nolan!!

    About time he scored

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    1. Hybrid.power
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      Yes please!!

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  3. jelly.john
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    hey guys plz tell me get rooney now be4 price rise or wait ????

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      There's no midweek games, might as well get him now although always the chance of a training ground injury.

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    2. Hybrid.power
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      Make sure to ask again on the next page to be sure.

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  4. Jinswick
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    I need one of Hughes, Ba or Fletcher to not play to get Clyne on. Chances?

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    1. Declan
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      Slim

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      1. SPorting
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        to none.

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    2. applebonkers
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      13 years, 13 days ago

      chance with fletcher. in the same boat with hughes, a surpise senderos and hangeland partnership would be awesome

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  5. Mr Mz
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    Hold on to tevez and mata or trade out for RVP/Rooney and Nolan?

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    1. Berbalove
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      Hard call.
      Mata looks VERY good after next GW, though. I'd keep.

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    2. Captain Shirokov
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      Keep.

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      1. Mr Mz
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        but i have no United attacking coverage. That is lethal eh?

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        1. Berbalove
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          It depends on the rest of your team. I don't have it, but I'm getting by.

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  6. KakiBangku
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    Enrique playing left wing.
    But this could change at any point in the game.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Like at the start of the game for instance?

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      1. KakiBangku
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        Lol i suppose.

        But he is definitely starting as LW. Technically its possible that could change within first minute of play but that just doesnt make sense.

        Hope enrique has a good game regardless 🙂

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          Good one 😆

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    2. thetinkerman
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      Trollolloll

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      who's the central striker, sterling?

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      1. KakiBangku
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        Shelvey

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      2. Naboo
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        shelvey

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  7. Captain Shirokov
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    Get rid of Tevez or Berba?

    I could do Berba to Rooney.

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    1. Something Clever
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      Neither.

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    2. FPL Touches
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      I think selling Berba for him would be a decent move (depending on his performance vs Newcastle) - now isn't a bad time to imbalance your team or do something outrageous due to Jan WC being around corner..

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      1. FPL Touches
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        saying that Tevez could be in for a ban after that kick at Jones

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  8. Smakies
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    I missed the second half of the derby, anybody could care to give me a little resume ?
    i heard Silva missed a lotf of chances

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    1. gdog2244
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      teevez came on and brought city back to life he cut it back for yaya for a goal and then zabaleta scored a nice volley after the corner was headed out then RVP's free kick got deflected by the wall, off the post and in then someone threw something at rio's face

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      1. Smakies
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        thanks

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  9. shegull
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    Would you rather have a City or ManU defender til the january wildcard?

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    1. Smakies
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      I have Hart since gwk 1 and intend to keep him
      Wait for Vidic to come back then look at the UTD defence, right now it looks to shaky

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    2. Hybrid.power
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      Rafael seems like the best option out of both defenses.

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  10. Hazard267
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    13 years, 13 days ago

    Anyone starting to think maybe its better to just leave your team alone i mean i had michu(C) and played rafeal then i started making changes i ended up captaing sessengon and bringing in shorey for a hit so i benched rafeal.

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    1. festerme1983
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      Yes. I switch capt last minute from michu to giroud

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      1. Smakies
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        oh my not the only one who did that !
        we can cry together 🙂

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        1. Hazard267
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          :(:(

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        2. festerme1983
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          Thats me done trying to be 'clever'.

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          1. Smakies
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            that was me trying to have a 'differential' 🙁

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    2. SPorting
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      hindsight is a wonderful thing.

      before the GW, you would have called it managing your team. afterwards, you see it as meddling.

      leave it and move on.

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      1. Obi Wan Elokobi
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        There's actually United fans that live in Manchester? That's news to me

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        1. Berbalove
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          http://www.tntmagazine.com/news/sport/manchester-is-officially-red-as-most-mancs-revealed-to-support-united
          That United have many fans out of town does not mean they don't have fans in Manchester. People should really get this, by now.

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    3. Berbalove
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      I think active management is better, in the long run. But of course, sometimes, when you're wrong about captaincy choices and who to play, you will end up feeling silly.

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  11. Doctor X
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    13 years, 13 days ago

    Stolen from twitter:

    LIVE AERIAL SHOT OF MANCHESTER

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9rvfgHCQAAgXwO.png

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    1. kaz 96
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      lol

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    2. jose-mourinho
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      blue moon bleeding...

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    3. Declan
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      More blue fans in manchester than red, and that's a fact.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        That's not true at all. More Utd season ticket holders in Manchester than City.

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      2. Granville
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        No it isn't a fact.

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        1. Feanor
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          It's one of those Rafa fahcts.

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        2. Declan
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          Hearsay 😀

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            Pure and simple.

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      3. don parcheesi
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        I've always been curious about this -- is there a historical reason why someone would be a City fan vs. a United fan? I'm not English so I don't know much about the divisions/culture of manchester

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          Different areas of the city tend to be red or blue, that's about it.

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      4. Berbalove
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        http://www.tntmagazine.com/new.....ort-united
        That United have many fans out of town does not mean they don’t have fans in Manchester. People should really get this, by now.

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    4. Something Clever
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      Where's the aria shot of Salford?

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    5. LÖrKingMuch
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      😉

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    6. The Cake is a Lie
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      This is so tedious.

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  12. kaz 96
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    Demel playing?

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    1. Captain Shirokov
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      Yes.

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  13. Optimus.
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    what position does snodgrass play and is he on any setpieces?

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    1. Doctor X
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      Right Winger. And he's on Direct FKs and a few Indirect FKs. Corners too.

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      1. Optimus.
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        cheers mate

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    2. Super Swans
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      he is setpiece specialest..

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  14. SC not pearls before swine
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    So the whole Wisdom is first choice thing is BS, huh?

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    1. Buck The Trent
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      he was in the first team, when enrique was injured and off-form early in the season

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  15. FPL Daniel
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    I am gonna make a statement:

    "I hate United, but I admire Fergie". Best manager of all time?

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    1. Hazmat
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      Controversial!

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        My statement or Fergie being the best?

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        1. Hazmat
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          Sorry I was being sarcastic.

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    2. Something Clever
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      Agree, but yes, he probably is the best.

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    3. SC not pearls before swine
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      I usually don't think managers matter but switch Fergy and Mancini and Rooney probably would have been benched today...

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        U think Rooney could be benched? I think no, but Mancini would have been buying a striker in January 😀

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        1. SC not pearls before swine
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          Well, Mancini can bench Tevez for Balotelli so surely he would bench Rooney for Welbeck...

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    4. Yes Don
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      No doubt about it

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  16. Canadian Football
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    Is it true that Enrique on the wing?

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    1. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      No lb I think

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      LB, like in the Udineze game

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      1. Canadian Football
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        thanks dan

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    3. KakiBangku
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      Correct. You will see in a couple of minutes.

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Sky have him at LB, soon find out!

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  17. The Chosen One...
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    C'mon Nolan it's time for you to get on the scoresheet

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      Or to get a yellow perhaps 😛 hhhah

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  18. applebonkers
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    interesting, wisdom not on the bench

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  19. jelly.john
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    13 years, 13 days ago

    hey guys plz tell me get rooney now be4 price rise or wait after sunder v.s reading ??????

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  20. ktk_interista
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    i have 2 questions

    1) tevez will probably lose the secind assist right? he should have.

    2) when do chelsea go to CWC. They don't play next week but after that, how many GWs before they leave for CWC?

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      why would he lose the second assist?

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      1. Feanor
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        He won't lose it, the ball deflected off RVP in the penalty area.

        Where do people come up with this crap?

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      13 years, 13 days ago

      We play next Thursday and Sunday

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  21. Nicti
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    Raf and nelsen on bench.
    Enrique and Demel to play.
    Was it a bad desicion in the first place?

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      exact my team LOL, same your 4 players

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      1. Nicti
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        hi 5

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    2. Something Clever
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      Not really dude, without the assists Rafa would have scored poorly, he was always going to concede. Demel strong at home against Suarez-less Pool. Impossible to predict really.

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    3. Pasqualinho
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      Not really - you thought they'd both concede - and they did. Twice. Attacking points for defenders are a bit of a lottery - so don't beat yourself up about it.

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  22. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Rumours coming through that Fellaini is due a goal in the 2nd half. As yet unconfirmed but keep your eyes peeled.

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    1. SPorting
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      wrong. it will be a brace.

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  23. Feanor
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    My last three transfers have cost me about 25 points. Would have been better off not touching my team for the past fortnight.

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    1. SC not pearls before swine
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      Samesies. Rooney out, Suarez in makes me a sad panda.

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      1. Feanor
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        Mata -> Silva feels like a bad toothache at the moment.

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    2. FPL Touches
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      It happens

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  24. heartsattack
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    Manicini lost City that game. Putting his faith I the wrong players yet again.

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    1. Canadian Football
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      Mancini sacked?????

      No CL
      not even Europa
      Poor squad selection.....

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      1. shegull
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        plz dont set your standards by Chelsea.

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      2. Yes Don
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        Hope so. He's a louse, although he does limit the damage that squad is capable of

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      3. heartsattack
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        I don't think there is another person in the country that would've started Balo over Tevez.

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    2. chocolove
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      yup
      lazy balo

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        I think Mancini won't be sacked before Jan

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  25. Valar(Keith)
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    So Tevez in for a suspension then? that kick out @ Jones was blatant and right under Fergie's nose.. surely he'll call for some sort of punishment? apologies if already discussed

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    1. Feanor
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      Should have been sent off but you know how loathe the FA is to suspend anyone short of Ben Thatcher.

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    2. iain_90
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      hope so.

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    3. heartsattack
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      I think he should be punished for it yes. I believe the ref saw it but took no action in order to keep a lid on the volatile crowd.

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  26. gdog2244
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    61 pts pre baps with half dempsey and fellaini and berba and mcanuff... is that good for this GW

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    1. heartsattack
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      Anything under 95 is a complete and utter disaster this week.

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    2. CarelessGenius©
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      That's terrible.....amateur.

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  27. Acquafresca
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    Enrique playing LB, NOT LW

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  28. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    enrique lb 🙁

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  29. FPL Daniel
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    Everybody buy Punch, He just scored! Very close to a price rise 😉

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    1. don parcheesi
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      he's been hovering around there for a few weeks

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  30. Mr Mz
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    13 years, 13 days ago

    Guys, i need dire help.

    Rooney or RVP?
    Mata or Torres?
    Keep or sell Tevez? (Getting real sick of Mancini rotating his best striker)

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    1. LÖrKingMuch
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      13 years, 13 days ago

      RVP, Mata, keep

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    2. Jimmers
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      Tevez has to start after today

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