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30 December 2012 3434 comments
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With the dust settling on Saturday’s goal-fest and with Theo Walcott’s bandwagon purring away, Sunday has a lot to live up to. A pair of Premier League matches are on the agenda, with a cast of Fantasy heavy-hitters on show. Juan Mata and Chelsea arrive at Goodison to face Leighton Baines’ Everton, while later in the day, Luis Suarez will be matched against bottom of the table QPR at Loftus Road. Our Dugout Discussion Chatroom is now open to grab the real-time community reaction as today’s matches unfold.

The team news from Goodison is as follows:

David Moyes makes two changes from the side that beat Wigan on Boxing Day. Phil Neville and Darron Gibson drop out, with Johnny Heitinga and Steven Naismith drafted in for the Toffees. Phil Jagielka looks likely to move to right-back to allow Heitinga to partner Sylvain Distin in central defence, while Leon Osman is expected to move to central midfield, affording Naismith a chance on the right flank in Everton’s final match without the suspended Marouane Fellaini.

Everton Starting XI: Howard, Jagielka, Heitinga, Distin, Baines; Naismith, Hitzlsperger, Osman, Pienaar, Jelavic, Anichebe

For the Blues, Rafa Benitez makes three alterations to the side that scraped a narrow win at Norwich last Wednesday. Frank Lampard replaces John Obi Mikel in the double-pivot (with David Luiz starting in midfield once again), Ramires gets the nod ahead of Victor Moses on the right of the attacking midfield three, while Eden Hazard is selected on the opposite flank, as Oscar drops to the bench.

Chelsea Starting XI: Cech; Azpilicueta, Ivanovic, Cahill, Cole; Luiz, Lampard; Ramires, Mata, Hazard; Torres

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. rabsi1
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    Does anyone know how the 'Target NTI' is generated on the crack the code site? It makes sense logically to me but not mathematically (at least not on the surface anyway 🙂 )

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    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      It has to be a fixed percentage (applied to all players) of the total level of ownership

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      1. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        no it's not that

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    2. dribbler
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      pretty sure it's some percentage of the total transfers in the previous gameweek (unless it changed in the last couple of years)

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      1. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        so it will decrease through the season as people give up the game

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      2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        no it's not that

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        1. dribbler
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          well it used to be

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          1. FPL Daniel
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 27 days ago

            No it didn't use to be. Sorry Dribler u r wrong .

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            1. dribbler
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 27 days ago

              that was the system in the past...for all I know it still is but I've not been paying attention to it in the last couple of seasons...I wrote a long post on how it worked once that Frank used to help him work out the system when he set up total fpl...after that FISO published their formula that confirmed it

              I know what I'm talking about (or I used to anyway)

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              1. FPL Daniel
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 27 days ago

                Well it isn't " total transfers in the previous gameweek " its percentage of total players playing the game. As season is going further more players are signing in and the threshold goes down. And they always wait one or several price changes at beginning to see if there are any changes.

                P.S. Franks site is loosing his touch recently. We'll see what happens with the recent improvements.

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              2. dribbler
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 27 days ago

                OK, especially for Wookie, here is my beginners guide of how to
                understand and work the transfer system. If I got something wrong
                please feel free to correct me:

                Many experienced players will be trying to build their team value,
                especially in this early part of the season. If you pick the cheapest
                possible squad it costs you £64m leaving you £36m to spend as you
                choose. If you can increase your squad value to £104m (using selling
                prices) you have increased your spending power by over 10% for the
                latter part of the season. In a few months you will see many players
                with team values of £106m-£108m and more. If you're drifting along on
                £100.5m don't be surprised if these people forge ahead of you in the
                second half of the season.

                It's important to note that you only get half of your profit when you
                sell a player and odd numbers are rounded down. The kind FPL
                organisers let you keep all your losses though.

                Let's keep the numbers simple. If 1.5m people are playing the game at
                the start of the season and a player is owned by 33% of teams, he has
                500,000 owners. As people buy and sell him his price may change.

                You have to look at purchases minus sales. This is called "net
                transfers in" (NTI). There is a "rise threshold" of 25,000 NTI and a
                "drop threshold" of 10%.

                This means that our player's price will not change so long as his
                ownership remains within the band 450,000-525,000. If 20,000 people
                buy him in the first week his ownership is 520,000 and his price will
                not change. If 60,000 people sell him the next week his ownership is
                now 460,000 and his price will still not change. This will continue
                until his ownership busts out of this range.

                So you can see that his NTI is not reset at the end of the gameweek.
                Because of this it is not enough to look at "transfers in (gameweek)"
                (except for the first week of the season).

                Thankfully, there is a guy called Diamondplus on the FISO site who
                does this for us. He downloads transfer statistics from the FPL site
                and estimates when prices will change. If you check at the bottom of
                this page, there is a link to his site called "FPL Values - Crack The
                Code" (CTC).

                Now let's go back to the start of the season. Let's say 20,000 people
                buy our player in the first week. His price does not change. Then on
                Saturday at the start of the second week he scores 2 goals and 10,000
                people buy him. He is now over the rise threshold. Still his price
                will not rise on Saturday evening. But we know for certain that it
                will rise in the overnight update. This is 12.30am BST Sunday
                morning, or within 2-3 hours of that time. They don't always update
                at the same time but you need to act by 12.30am to be certain of
                getting your transfer done. (WARNING: I'm uncertain whether this
                will switch to 12.30am GMT when the clocks change).

                Now you'll notice that after the update our player has 530,000 owners.
                His rise threshold and fall threshold are now recalculated. His
                price will rise at 530,000+25,000 and his price will fall at
                530,000-53,000. Our new band is 477,000-555,000. So long as his
                ownership remains within this range his price will not change.

                Alert readers will have noted that we had 5,000 more transfers than we
                needed for our price rise. These 5,000 transfers are "lost to the
                market". In other words they do not count towards the next price
                rise. This isn't tremendously important but it often confuses people
                when a player is bought heavily and lots of transfers-in are lost in
                this way.

                Back to the start of the season again. Let's assume there are no
                midweek matches. Our man scores a hat-trick and the Mongol Hordes buy
                in their droves. 15,000 on Saturday and 15,000 on Sunday. His price
                rises overnight. 5,000 transfers are lost to the market. For a
                second price rise in the SAME gameweek his rise threshold will be
                25,000*2=50,000. His ownership will need to rise to 580,000. The
                buying continues through the week but at a slower rate. By Friday
                night his ownership has reached 570,000 so on Saturday morning his
                price has not risen for a second time.

                But something happens on Saturday morning to upset our calculations.
                At 11.30am BST we have the start of a new gameweek. This means that
                the rise threshold is reset. Our hat-trick hero hasn't had a
                price-rise in this new gameweek so his rise threshold will be
                25,000*1=25,000 and his price will rise when he gets
                530,000+25,000=555,000 owners. But he already has 570,000 owners so
                his price is pretty much guaranteed to rise unless he breaks his leg
                and he is heavily sold on Saturday. This has important implications
                for dedicated and alert FPL players.

                If you are buying a player on a Saturday you can sometimes get a
                "free" price rise this way. This is important because some of the
                players you buy will do well and others will do badly. If you get a
                "free" price rise it will take 2 price falls before you lose money.

                Now look at the CTC site. Click the "Rises" tab. Here we can see the
                actual rise threshold is estimated at 25,425. This is likely to fall
                through the season as people give up the game and the overall number
                of transfers decreases. As I write this Darren Bent is 127% so his
                price will rise tonight. Mark Noble is 98% but this data was
                collected at 6.00pm so, because people are buying him, it's probable
                that his price will rise as well. Wayne Rooney is next in line. He
                needs about 3,500 more buyers for a price rise.

                This means that when you are thinking about who to buy you can look at
                CTC and, if you want to, you can pick somebody who is close to a price
                increase. Even if his price doesn't go up, he'll be that much further
                from a price fall than most other players.

                Now click the "Drops" tab. Various players look like they are going
                to drop in price tonight. If you are thinking of buying one of these
                players tonight you might want to hold-off until his price drops and
                you can get him cheaper.

                Back to our example. The second Saturday of the season. Our
                wonderfully gifted superstar breaks his leg and the Mongol Hordes
                start to sell. Remember his ownership is 570,000 and his newly
                calculated "stable-price band" is 477,000-555,000.

                (n.b. Even though he is being sold, if his ownership remains above
                555,000 on Saturday night his price will still increase. This is
                likely to be a freak situation though and of little practical
                relevance).

                Now let's assume that everybody at FPL Towers is out on the lash all
                weekend and don't drag themselves into the office until Monday
                morning. Bleary-eyed they check if the bonus points have been messed
                up yet again and start to trawl through the official club websites for
                injury news. About lunchtime they become the last people in Britain
                to notice that the winker has broken his leg. They flag him as
                injured and run their "mini-update" when they get round to it. All
                this is important because there is often a delay between a player
                getting injured and FPL getting round to red-flagging him.

                Now remember that our hero was owned by 570,000 teams when he had his
                "accident" and needs to drop below 477,000 before his price goes down.
                The Mongol Hordes also go out on the lash, but by Sunday night there
                will have been lots of sales. Let's examine 2 scenarios:

                (A) His ownership on Sunday night is 500,000. This is not enough to
                trigger a price drop. On Monday he is red-flagged and his drop
                threshold becomes 22.5% instead of 10% which is 530,000-22.5%=411,000.
                Now his stable-price band is 411,000-555,000 instead of
                477,000-555,000. So you can see that his price can still go down but
                it takes many more sales to reach the drop threshold. This is how the
                system is supposed to work. (We will talk about a player who comes
                back from injury below).

                (n.b. 70,000 people have sold our player and his ownership is 500,000
                so many people will expect his price to fall because 70,000 seems to
                be above 10% of owners. You'll see their posts on this site. That's
                another reason you need to use CTC.)

                But it's only Monday. SELL, SELL, SELL. By Wednesday ownership is
                down to 400,000 and there is a price fall despite the red flag. We
                calculate a new drop threshold as 400,000-(22.5%*2). So our
                stable-price band is 220,000-425,000. Wow, look at the huge number of
                sales we need for a second price decrease that same week. A second
                price fall is always going to be unlikely for a flagged player because
                there are always loads of players who don't actually care. Watch out
                for next week though. The band will change to 310,000-425,000.

                (B) His ownership on Sunday night is 450,000. This is sufficient to
                trigger a price drop because FPL Towers have been tardy in
                red-flagging the player. This happens quite a lot and it's very
                important to pay attention otherwise you will be the victim of the
                price drop. Remember that a players' ownership may have been just
                above the drop threshold in the first-place. My example is one
                extreme where many sales are needed for a price drop. Sometimes it
                doesn't take many sales for an unflagged player to drop in price.

                When a player returns from injury something new and very confusing
                happens. His price is protected for 7 days??? After that NTI is
                reset??? This causes repeated chaos on this site so let's continue
                our example:

                It was a simple leg-break and our superstar (Chris) plays his first
                match 10 weeks later on a Saturday. He still has 250,000 owners.
                What's more he scores and people start buying. Will his price
                increase? Well that's a good question. Sometimes FPL Towers will
                have realised that he's back in training and will have unflagged him.
                Other times information is scarce or non-existent, he is still flagged
                until Monday lunchtime. Basically I'm a bit confused about whether or
                not his price can change if he's returned to action whilst still
                flagged.

                So let's just look at the system as it's supposed to work. Once our
                hero is unflagged his price is frozen for 7 days. So the flood of
                buyers for our returning superhero matters not one jot. None of these
                transfers count towards a price increase. Unfortunately the CTC site
                can't seem to give us this information in a way that I understand
                (maybe I've not tried hard enough) so it will show a player 200%
                towards a price rise and yet his price doesn't change. (n.b. I could
                talk about this problem in more detail but I think it's beyond the
                scope of this post). If at the end of the 7 days ownership is 300,000
                we calculate the rise and drop threshold as normal and his price will
                then behave normally.

                Well if anyone got to the end of all that let me know if you think I
                made a mistake. It was a bit of work so I may post it again at some
                point especially if I can improve it. If you're new to all this it
                might be an idea to save it. Cheers.

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                1. FPL Daniel
                  • 16 Years
                  13 years, 27 days ago

                  WOW. I remember u having discussions with 5 - 10 posters at the same time hahah 🙂

                  Now I am going to read what u have posted above.
                  Cheers,

                  P.S. I stand by my last statement, I hope u will read it 😉

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                  1. dribbler
                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 27 days ago

                    "As season is going further more players are signing in and the threshold goes down"...a system like this wouldn't make sense...

                    as the season progresses people give up the game so there are fewer transfers...but they still want roughly the same number of price changes so the threshold gradually reduces

                    this is the opposite of what you said

                    (more to follow)

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                  2. dribbler
                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 27 days ago

                    it's probably not worth going through my post...when I did it FISO was hard for the average Joe to interpret so I was trying to work out how it all worked...later on Frank did total fpl and also FISO improved their site to explain things better

                    also there is one small mistake in my post but I forget what it is and I'm certainly not going to go through it all again

                    it's possible the system's changed anyway

                    I was just trying to point out that I did NOT make an error in my previous posts

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                  3. FPL Daniel
                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 27 days ago

                    Ok I am lazy I don't want to look up again. Will post next time. Have stuff to do. Cheers. I am sure its a formula from the total players included in int.

                    Cheers

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                  4. dribbler
                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 27 days ago

                    no probs Daniel

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  2. NATSTER
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    Sorry. Can anyone give a link to Bap Chap's prediction of yesterday games?

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  3. BOOM XHAKALACA
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    Which transfer would you do this week:
    A. Clyne -> Davies
    B. Snodgrass -> Fellaini

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    1. Koflok
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      B

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  4. mattyrobinson
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    I'd predict:

    Fat Frank 3
    Piennar 2
    Osman or Mata or Distin 1

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      thanks.

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    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      AB has spoken. No need.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        link?

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          Last page.

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      2. the Bap Chap
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        who is AB?

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          You, so I'm told.

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        2. Jafooli
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          BC 😉

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          1. Brutus619
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 27 days ago

            Both are TBC: to be confirmed 😉

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        3. Chu Young Ping Pong
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          Some rumors going around saying you're the one and only Applebonkers.

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 27 days ago

            arse licker

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        4. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          😆 a good one

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  5. jonnybhoy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    QPR v Liverpool predictions?

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    1. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      2-2

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    2. Alton E.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      2-3

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      1. No1Joker
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        That's my guess too.

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    3. The EJJ
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      2-1

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    4. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      4-3 liverpool. suarez hat trick

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      1. jonnybhoy
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Hopefully, hes my captain.

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    5. Lawrø
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      1-4

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  6. andres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    So do we think mata will play against qpr?
    Need a bale replacement and can do bale to mata... Have just enough money to do it today before bale falls

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    1. The EJJ
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      No one knows.

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      1. andres
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        He did say we felt ready to play all thise games, was subbed of late today though... Would you get him for bale?

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    2. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Don't think Bale will drop today ?

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  7. Le Limpar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    Does anyone have Bap Chap's Saturday predictions to hand?

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      can't ppl just wait and see the real bonus points.

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      1. Bad Seed
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        why not just wait until the end of the season?

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        1. Le Limpar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          lol

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      2. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        No, we like to see what the good man says.

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      3. Le Limpar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Oh great thanks.

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  8. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    What's the story with Michu?

    Any more news?

    Still don't know whether to get rid of him or Bale. 🙁

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    1. Paz12
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      No longer flagged on TFF.

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      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        😕 he still flagged on FPL.

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Get rid of Bale. The possibility if he plays is huge against Vila the new Sot Rdg ... 😛

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    3. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Keep both imo

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    4. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Same here. Must get rid of one in order to have any chance of getting 11 players out next GW

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    5. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Laudrup said yesterday it is not ligament damage and could 'with a bit of luck' be back for Tuesday.

      So anyone's guess

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  9. Jax
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    will everton ever keep a clean sheet again???

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  10. Shaps
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    QPR 1-3 Pool

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    1. Mr.KK
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Amen to that.

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  11. The Pep Revolution
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    Would love a QPR clean sheet. What are the chances?

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      don't want to jinx it.

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    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Better now that Nelsen is back.

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    3. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Small

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    4. Shaps
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Ask Suarez

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    5. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      90%

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    6. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Suarez is going to have at least 10 shots, one of which should be converted.

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  12. Sting
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    Lineups anyone ??

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  13. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    On the up: Frank Lampard
    Down: Roman (for selling him)

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Rafa out

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  14. KingBrenny
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 27 days ago

    Is Tomkins nailed on?

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    1. Sting
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Reid and Collins nailed on at CB when available.

      Demel, Tomkins
      O'Brien Mcartney

      compete for fullback positions.

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  15. Mak_Gold
      13 years, 27 days ago

      This is my team for next GW:

      Foster, (Federici),
      GJ, Demel, Cuellar, (Cameron, Clyne),
      Cazorla, Mata, Michu, Puncheon, (Bale),
      RVP, Berba, Benteke. (1 FT, 0.5m)

      Thoughts on what transfer/s to do? Bale > Walcott maybe? Cheers for any responses.

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      1. Shaps
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Yeah Bale to Walcott seems the obvious

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      2. The Pep Revolution
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        I did Bale to Walcott last night. Walcott is on some form and there is no reason why it should not continue.

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      3. "The Special One"
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Benteke out, there hopeless!!

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    • सनकी
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      People are keeping berbs or knee jerk to Lambert?

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      1. Shaps
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Sold Lambert for berbs so im sticking !

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      2. PB-THE-VET
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        U do the transfer

        We'll laugh at u later

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      3. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Keeping here, mainly because there are more important transfers to make

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      4. Timmy Cahill Rules
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        not a knee jerk i got lambert for him

        In far better form and is also on pens and DGW

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    • Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      another let down from baines

      But nothing will dampen this GW for me after the heroics of my gretat captain yesterday

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      1. Shaps
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Wow, nice gameweek rank

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      2. JWF
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        You link goes to GW17 btw. Nice score this week.

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    • Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      If only QPR could afford Frank's wages.

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    • Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      How on earth did Torres mess up a 3-on-1?

      Woeful team play and sharpness by Torres just when I thought he was getting better.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Tell me about that, I was hitting on the sofa for that miss. He simply needed to shot !!!

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      2. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Because he's still shite.

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      3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        It was Oscars fault he should not have passed to Torres Moses was in a better position.

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        1. AK ⭐
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          Actually, no, Moses was outside, and giving him the ball would have only let the Everton defenders track back and cover. Torres should have done better.

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          1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 27 days ago

            I was listening to it on the radio its not my fault I blame Stan Collymore

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        2. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          Haha you're kidding right? Also, it wasn't Oscar's fault that Torres didn't make a run into a better shooting position. He was simply jogging his way forward.

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      4. AK ⭐
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Should have ran a bit further away from the defender, looked like he was fatigued.

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      5. PlayUpPompey
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        He had a good game, granted shooting was average though. Just not a good FPL prospect currently unfortunately.

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    • Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Mata with 3 blocks surely working in his favor, out of which 1 was a block for Torres shot on goal.

      😆

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Love Mata. FPL Titan.

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        1. Bad Seed
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          +1

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      2. Shaps
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        2/1 Bps are assured for the him

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    • jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Mata's started all 6 Chelsea games in the last 17 days... Putting it out there, he WILL be rested vs QPR.

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      1. Hammers Select
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Mikel, Moses will start last game before african nations

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      2. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        10 mins of Mata vs QPR at home is all I need!

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      3. PB-THE-VET
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        He doesnt need a rest. Hes spanish

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    • Hatter
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Which is better,

      A). Glen Johnson (Def) / Bale / Walcott / Pilkington

      B). Cuellar (Def) / Bale / Walcott .Fellaini

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    • Shakshuka
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Anyone else tempted by turnbull? Got McCarthy (inj) and bego away to city. Makes sense.

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    • Live4pool
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      spending hundreds of millions for new players, but not giving a chelsea legend a new contract?

      what a fecking arse is abromovich?!

      liverpool would never do this with carra (or stevie in a few years)

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      1. Alan The Llama
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Liverpool are really shrewd

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        1. Heytch
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          lol

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      2. Heytch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        i dont know why the fk he cares about his wage. Admittedly he is way overs for how he will be used in years going forward, but he's done enough in the shirt to earn whatever he likes for another couple of years. Roman is incredibly frustrating

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      3. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        I agree mate I agree, we must keep him

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    • Alonso The Great Midfielder
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      anyone care to predicted rvp,mata and pienar bonus? now i am otw to win monthly prize......

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      1. PB-THE-VET
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        1,1,2 id say

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      2. Live4pool
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        rvp 2 (or 1), mata 2, pienaar 1

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    • applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      so if these Mata bps come through it'll be the following since his early season rests:
      6, 13, 8, 18, 9, 5, 1, 3, 1, 7, 8, 6, 11, 7
      with the two 1s coming in sub cameos.
      juanderful!

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Stunning. What a player.

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      2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Season keeper

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      3. Bad Seed
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        flip

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      4. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        You're not fooling anyone.

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      5. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        I had him for the 5, 1, 3, 1

        Flair

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        1. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          😆 still love you todd

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    • Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Kudos to FFS, they predicted Nelson to start. I love the 'Team News' tab!!

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    • The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      With price changes being more volatile this season compared to any other I cant believe Baines hasnt dropped in price.. £7.5m lmao

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    • Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      milanista please help 😉

      who got the goals and the assists in the Chelski game?

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      1. Hatter
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Lampard with a brace and Piennar for everton

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      2. AK ⭐
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Not Mili, but I can tell you. 🙂

        Lampard brace, Mata and Ramires assists.

        Pienaar goal, don't remember the assist, but wasn't Baines.

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      3. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Shut it! 😆

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          😀

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      4. Paz12
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Lampard with Ramires assist, Lampard with Mata assist, Pienaar with Anichebe assist.

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      5. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        Pathetic 😉

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          😆

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      6. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        That John25 plonker starts all his posts with PLEASE HELP!

        Am I the only one that finds it irritating? 🙂

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 27 days ago

          no that's why I posted this...

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    • Hammers Select
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 27 days ago

      Have to love sky sports game not giving the assist to mata 🙂

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 27 days ago

        why does flash score say hazard and Ramirez assists?

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