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The Numbers Game – Festive Form – Defenders

5 January 2013 4777 comments
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Continuing our round-up of the Christmas period, it’s time to treat our members to a series of articles which examines each of the positions and analyses the form of the key protagonists over the past four Gameweeks. We start in defence, by casting an eye over the top tens for our ICT Index, plus a more in-depth look at the main performers in terms of goal threat and creativity….

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Viper
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Why oh why did I do Enrique -> O'Brien on wednesday 😆

    It would have been so much easier to take a 4 point hit, I wouldn't have even had to consider a wildcard!

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    1. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Same here, but with GJ. Well, he might be fit yet, and I'm just going to take an 8 point hit on Chelsea attackers and enjoy the ride. YOLO.

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      1. Viper
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Its looking like Ridgewell & Cazorla -> Luiz & Mata for an 8 pointer for me!

        Saves me wildcarding!

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        1. Trigg ⭐️
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          I'm getting in Turnbull and Hazard in for an 8 pointer, then I save my WC too. I figure I'll get the points back in the DGW, and not have a WC team full of S'oton and WHU players that I don't even particularly want.

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    2. rvp786
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      lol i made the exact same mistake and now in two minds about wildcard too even tho i have mata and co

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      I brought him in as well, so now need an 8pt hit to sort things out. Very annoying but them's the chances we take.

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    4. living the dream
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Whats the problem? Is O'Brien a doubt or somet

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    5. Paul
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      i did the same unfortunately....but still there's a chance right??...i mean we don't need him to play gw 22....gw 23 is wat matters...nd thnk he'll play that...

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  2. Drogo
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    I got my other wildcard saved, so when using a wildcard now the january wildcard will be used automatically ? Don't want to screw up here 🙂

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      no they cancel eachother out sorry..you now have 1

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    2. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      the jan wildcard willa utomatically be used mate

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  3. Schnellders24
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Anyone else worried about not having Fellaini for the next few weeks? Just cannot fit him in without either getting Pogrebnyak or making my defence REALLY weak but he has great fixtures!!

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    1. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      A little, but then if he was in, I'd be worried about not having someone else. He can hopefully do nothing in the next 2 weeks and then I'll get him for a good price on my WC.

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      I am considering either Fell or Joe C for the next 2 weeks.... I may be unhinged for the dithering.

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      1. Declan-
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Bit offensive to afro mentioning them in the same sentence? 😉

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  4. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Which one for the WC?

    A) Gibbs + Michu + Ruiz

    B) Evans + Puncheon + Berbatov

    C) Sagna + Kacaniklic + Ba

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      A

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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      A

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    3. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      I went with Sagna And Ba!!!!

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  5. beric
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/57/event-history/21/

    Instead of using my WC, I'm now thinking:

    Silva, Cuellar, Berbatov->Mata, Luiz, Lambert (-8) leaving me with exactly 0 in the bank.

    Mata -> Caz the week after for free.

    GW22: Mata(c), Luiz, Clyne, Lambert

    GW23: Walcott(c), Cazorla, Gibbs, Jaaskelainen

    This is better than wildcarding, right?

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      My main concern is not having Bale for the next two weeks at least

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      1. rvp786
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        dont think lambert will outscore berba by 4 tbh

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        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          Me neither, but its for the money.

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        I'm doing something similar, but undoubtedly not as good 😉

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        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          I don't like that big red box with -8 in it. Especially as I'll have to confirm a week before the damn games are played 😕

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 20 days ago

            Take the punt... I check fiso hourly when at home to make sure my plans are still viable. Injuries are the worry but the chances are they won't happen.

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            1. beric
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 20 days ago

              I can wait till tomorrow, but I think I'm gunna go ahead with this plan. If it all goes wrong I can just wildcard and get my points back anyway right?

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              1. 4vets
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 20 days ago

                I think so. FISO is your friend.

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    2. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      FWIW, I'd rather have Berbs and 4 points than Lamberts for his 2 games. Unless you need the cash?

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        I would too, but I need the cash 🙁

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        1. Trigg ⭐️
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          Yeah, surely you can cut back elsewhere, an unwanted mid to Punch maybe?

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          1. beric
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 20 days ago

            Only guy I can see mysdelf losing is Sterling, and it doesn't raise enough. Only other way for me would be Jaas->Turnbull, but I'd rather keep Jaas.

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        +1 don't see much for Lambert, maybe go Azpi over Luiz to cover the difference?

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        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          I suppose my thinking is my main rival has Azpi, so taking a hit to get him is a pain. I also see Luiz outscoring him by 4, thus making up for the berbrifrice, no?

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    3. Drogo
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      U still got your old WC?

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        hell yeah

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          Bastard! 😉

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          1. beric
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 20 days ago

            Patience Vets, patience is key 😉

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            1. 4vets
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 20 days ago

              "We want the finest wines available to humanity. And we want them here, and we want them now! "

              Awesome 🙂

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              1. beric
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 20 days ago

                😀 Love that film.

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    4. living the dream
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Silva could easily score well against Arsenal. The Rafa rotation policy is making me think twice about any Chelsea players for the double, he will rotate the whole team probably.

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        I considered this but will still do Silva > Mata (c)

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      2. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Silva would have gone for Bale anyway this week, I think Mata will score well.

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    5. Jonah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      I'm in a similar situation to you, and I'm wildcarding.

      I think you've got more or less the best plan you can here, from hits, but at the end of the day a shock double gameweek has just been announced in the winter wildcard period. You have to use your wildcard at some point in the next 3 weeks, it's not like you can carry it forward until any time of your choosing. Use it, and make sure that you can carry the team you pick forward to the next announcement of a double gameweek.

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  6. jimmytheman
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Is Turnbull nailed on for both Chelsea games or will Cech be back in time? Can't decide between him and Azpil?

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  7. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Surprised to see such little Lampard love

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Will only start one for sure

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  8. jayzico
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Ba and Collins

    or

    Ivan and Lambert???

    really struggling with this. cheers

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      B

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      1. jayzico
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        cheers dude. anyone else? first to 3 is my choice. done

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    2. Viper
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Ivan & lambert

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    3. jayzico
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      spose that'll do. DONE. BA OUT. Ivan/lambert IN. cheers dudes

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  9. Ings on the up
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Do I....

    A) Shawcross / Walcott

    B) Wilson / Mata --> potential Mata / Bale --> Walcott for GW23

    Both combos have a mid of Bale, Michu, Fellaini and Puncheon

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  10. bennydebull
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Any reason why Dzeko isn't a good punt? (I'm good for double week games)

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    1. Eboue
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Dgw

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Ballotelli? He should still do OK though I think.

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  11. BONZ
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    What a funny man Mr Benitez is - he did rest Cole, Mata & Hazard for the FA Cup tie!!

    I bet the Chelsea fans are very happy?

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  12. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Get Turnbull or Ba?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Ba.

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Minutes?

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        1. Viper
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          120ish i'd guess..

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          • 15 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          Enough I reckon TT.

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    2. bennydebull
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Only get ba if you plan to keep him - too many important transfers needed this month.

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    3. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      bAA NO WAYY DONT GO THERE

      turnbull guarenteed to play both dgw

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  13. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Sorry been away - for how long is aguero estimated to be out?

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    1. Viper
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      2-3 weeks I think.

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Torn hammy means hes out for at least 6 weeks, thats absolutely minimum.

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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Anywhere between 4 weeks and 6 months. Hope that was helpful 😉

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  14. Little Frank
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Latest incarnation of WC team:

    Begovic Bunn
    Luiz Azpiliqueta Demel Davies Cuellar
    Bale Mata Walcott Michu Fellani
    RVP Lambert Berb

    Swap Azpil to Gibbs next week so will have 3 CHE, 1 SOT this week and 2 ARS 1 WHU next week.

    Yay or nay?

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  15. Viper
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Ok, so just to clarify, it would be FPL suicide to not have Mata this gwk, yes?

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    1. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      not really but if you dont have no other chelsea players like turnbull luiz then YES

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      1. Viper
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Mata or a defender more essential or just both for an 8 pointer?

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    2. Ravanelli
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      not necessarily, hard to predict really, he might flop, Bale could actually be a better pick. But as much as we can tell, yes Mata is a good bet this week.

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    3. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      We either succeed together, or fail together.There is no 'I' in Mata.

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    4. living the dream
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Nah, Stoke away will be low scoring, 1-1 or somet and then he will be rested for Southampton.

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  16. Hazardous
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    100 points behind leader hope he doesnt wildcard and i smash him to pieces in the next 2gw thanks to chelsea arseal soton west ham goals galore games allowing me to reduce it to at least 20 points i will report this back to you after the arsenal dgw

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      to be continued....................

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  17. Hatter
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Ba or Berbatov?

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    1. bennydebull
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Or Dzeko - Aguero out for a month +

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      1. Hatter
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Really? And is Balotelli completely out of question?

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        1. bennydebull
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          Ummm. If Dzeko doesn't get game time now he should leave.

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          1. bennydebull
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 20 days ago

            That was my sub anyhow.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Ba. Berb didn't score at home against a Championship side. (No disrespect intended Blackpool).

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    3. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Ba

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  18. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    I'll ask again. For GW23

    a) Caz and Demel (-4)

    b) J. Cole and Sagna/Mert (-4)

    c) Just Cole

    d) Just Caz

    Have Gibbs and O'Brien FWIW. am thinking a just in case O'Brien doesn't make it, at least I'll have 1 Hammers defender

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    1. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Just Caz ... I'm prepared for OB not making it in time, and I feel okay about it actually. QPR could easily get a goal, and if Arsenal don't score against WHU, then we're all in trouble.

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    2. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      D

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    3. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      d

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  19. Indalo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Mignolet Begovic
    Gibbs Natsasic O'Brien Cuellar Cameron
    Silva Mata Michu Sterling Nolan
    Rvp Suarez Berbatov

    Would you wildcard this team? 1 Chelsea, 1 Arsenal, 2 West Ham, 0 Saints. If not does anyone have a suggestion on how to use my 1FT, 0.0 in the bank

    Cheers 🙂

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  20. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    All else equal...is it better to spend points to bring DGW players in or to spend points taking them out?

    Debating whether to WC or not, as I have no Chelsea players.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      spend to get them in, more chance of making them back

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        I could also just bring in Mata and hope for the best with just 1 Chelsea player...

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          FWIW I've already gone -4 to get O'Brien and Mata in (before this DGW news) am looking at -8 wuth Rafa to Luiz. Then -4 next week Shorey and Mata to Demel and Caz. Then wc to fix it.

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    2. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      If you just look at them as 2 point hits with potential, it makes it easier to click on confirm.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Only if you are sure they will play both games and with 2 games in close proximity, Rafatation may come into it.

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  21. Demí
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Anyone else planning to lose Bale temporarily after QPR for a Cazorla or someone?

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Depends on purchase price and timing of WC.

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    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      no i fancy him vrs utd like last time..i might swap mata to caz though

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      not Bale, probably Mata. Bale will probably score against us. It's tough, I want Bale on wc, i don't want Mata. One will go for Caz, just not sure which

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    4. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Yes. Me.

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    5. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Too risky. He could explode against United

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    6. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      llsot him for mata this week will get back for norwich

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    7. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Me Demi, for Cazorla.

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    8. jayzico
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      me. bale for caz exactly that move. than back again

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    9. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Quite possibly yeah. May even do the reverse transfer the following week!

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    10. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      I haven't got room or money for him at the mo Demi. I might try to squeeze him in a WC team end of the month.

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Ah okay ILF. You'll probably be want to hide behind the couch for the Spurs/QPR game then. He could well explode vs United again but i'll take my chances with Cazorla's double. Doing the reverse move the week after too like Jayzico/Jinswick have pointed out.

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  22. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Will Ba rise by 0.2 this gameweek and will Suarez rise again?

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    1. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      suarez will and ba no

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      1. Voodoo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Cheers mate, what makes you think that though? I don't know how to gauge these things!

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    2. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Yes to both

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  23. Steve
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Why Ba over Torres for the DGW? Should i just stick with Defoe?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Because Ba scores goals regularly.

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  24. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Out of curiosity, peolpe that don't have Ba, are you bringing him for the DGW?

    With 0.5m in the bank, it could be a nice way out to Carlos Tevez after.

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      No way

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    2. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Yes.

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Yes, but you are special. You have a free way to get him out after 😀

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        1. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          I may well keep, he could be great vfm at Chelsea.

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    3. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Agreed.

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      1. rvp786
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        BA - expectations of him realistically playing time wise??

        is rvp suarez ba overkill

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        1. Godfather Bandit 42
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          If it is , then I'm a killer!!!

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  25. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    DDGW Madness

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Yes. I am literally losing my mind. Joking aside, next 2 weeks will make or break a lot of seasons.

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    2. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      I didn't want it, but now I'm quite enjoying it. It's a chance to really make some ground.

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  26. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    I see Noble got dropped today - he's not in danger of losing his place is he?

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      No. Rested, most probably.

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Not IMO, both sides rested a few players today. Noble is West Ham's best player

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    3. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Just rested

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    4. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      He's their captain. Just rested for the DGW I think Jinswick.

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  27. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Do you guess how long will Aguero be out when he torn his hamstring? Tempted to pick Dzeko in my WC

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Tevez is a much better option. He should play every game, just like in the beginning of the season when Kun was out. He will be on penalties.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Dzeko will score more than Tevez if he can play. Nice differential too

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        Dzeko is much cheaper. If Aguero is out long term I might get Dzeko to allow for an extra big hitter in defence.

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      I miss Facer : X

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  28. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Hey folks

    I have no FT and £0.7m in the bank.
    Here is my current team:

    Begovic, Ruddy

    Nelsen, Sagna, Demel, Cuellar, Bassong

    Mata, Michu, Bale, Walcott, Sterling

    RVP, Suarez, Berbatov

    Should I wildcard?

    Or take -8 hit to do this:

    Out: Ruddy & Bassong
    In: Turnbull & Cahill

    Please suggest?!

    Thank you!!

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  29. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Re. Aguero:

    @Ian_Ladyman_DM: #mcfc fans shouldn't worry unduly about aguero tweet about "torn" hamstring. prognosis remains the same. Two weeks.

    @Ian_Ladyman_DM: I think translation problem is at heart of aguero tweet. City aren't concerned, anyway #mcfc

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Who's that?

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      1. Ings on the up
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        reporter from the daily mail

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 20 days ago

        You trust someone who calls themselves "Ladyman" on Twitter?

        Hrrrmm....

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        1. Voodoo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 20 days ago

          Can't help his surname can he.

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  30. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 20 days ago

    Do we think Mata will actually play the two games?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      yes

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 20 days ago

      Yes. He was amazing today and Moses out for ACON.

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