The Knee Jerk
6 February 2011 1571 comments
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Any debate over whether Fernando Torres would start against his old club, score a goal or celebrate should he score were put to bed with a tepid performance by both himself and Chelsea.

The Blues were adjusted, as predicted by most informed pundits, by reverting back to the diamond formation so favoured in the early weeks of Carlo Ancellotti’s rein in charge. This saw Torres and Drogba paired up front with Anelka playing just behind, serving as the head of a diamond midfield. What was clear was that, whilst this provided success in the later stages of the game against Sunderland when trialed, against a well organised Liverpool team with three central defenders, Chelsea’s lack of width saw a serious lack of penetration.

It remains to be seen whether this was just a case of Chelsea coming up against a team who had been set up to combat the formation, or whether it is a formation which simply doesn’t serve to complement their current contingent of players. There is certainly a whiff of this mirroring the Shevchenko move whereby the Ukrainian was crowbared into a team with ultimately little success. I may be premature in my assesment but this looks like a formation which will take time for Chelsea to adjust to – time which, given their current predicament, they may not have.

In light of Chelsea’s FA Cup run and the effect a potential victory over Everton may have, namely cancellation of Gameweek 28’s fixtures against Manchester United, coupled with the lack of fluidity and certainty about Chelsea going forward, the Knee Jerks’ assesment is to hold fire on investment in Chelsea players (thats if you still have any of course). If you have Torres for example your head is surely going to be turned by the more reliable and more in-form Carlos Tevez and/or Robin van Persie.

One player that did catch the eye and followed up with recent goalscoring form was Liverpool’s Portugese midfielder Raul Meireles. Already picked up by a 5% of players (including Granville) he has been playing in an advanced position supporting the lone striker – in this game Dirk Kuyt. Obviously his returns could be affected by the introduction of Luis Suarez but his form in recent weeks, including 4 goals and 1 assist in the last 5 games, is hard to ignore at £7 million on the FPL game. A word of warning however is the fact that Meireles has never historically been a prolific goalscoring midfielder. This could well just be a purple patch and whether or not this can be sustained remains to be seen. His continued positioning behind a solitary striker, with Andy Carroll still injured, could provide the key for continued returns.

One thing is for certain – Liverpool, under Kenny Dalglish, are looking both a lot stronger at the back (4 clean sheets in the last 4 games), and a lot more fluid going forward.  There’s definately a feel good factor at Anfield since the return of King Kenny, something which can’t be said of Stamford Bridge in spite of the arrival of £50m Fernando Torres.

  1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
    • 16 Years
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    quote from an arsenal blog

    Djourou, arguably our best defender, went off with an ankle injury and given his history, I wouldn’t be surprised if he needs surgery to fix something or the other.

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    1. Alex Hunter
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      thought it was reported as knee cartilage?

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      1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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        whichever, its a good point

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        1. Alex Hunter
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          ya, it's rather disappointing from a fantasy perspective. would have been perfect cheap arsenal coverage and my back line would be set. now looks like johnson in followed by kolarov for gw 28 w/wildcard.

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  2. MTPockets
      14 years, 11 months ago

      2 frees this week.
      Torres def gone -> Odemwingie

      Any opinion on one of these three (I'm leaning towards the first)?

      Djourou -> Huth
      Berbatov -> Carew
      VDV -> Lennon

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    • Henry Hill
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      Anyone else getting Szczesny?

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      1. Alex Hunter
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        i'm going w/foster, two games at home and the better keeper. although now w/djourou out and if you're looking for cheap arsenal defense, that may be the way to go.

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        1. BKR
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          djourou a roto risk?? better to get BIR defenders and Szczesny.. imo.... what say??

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      2. Nomar
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        Was planning too until the Djourou injury.

        Now I don't think so as he was a major reason why their defence had been playing so well lately. I got Foster last night and will probably double up with Johnson. Huth will be my other DGW def.

        As an aside, I bought Kelly in last night to try and make some money on him but I may actually keep him now too. If Liv can go on the road and shut out a rampant Chelsea attack then I think Kelly's worth keeping hold of.

        Will have enough defensive cover to bench him in bad matchups anyway.

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    • Demí
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      Fernando Torres seen leaving london on a flight to Amsteram,

      must be because it's the only city he'll be able to score in this week.

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      1. Alex Hunter
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        he's going to learn from the dutch. either that or get high.

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    • mullenlad
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      Hows this sound for DGW wildcard team?

      Foster
      Kelly, Huth, Coleman
      Adam, Fabregas, Bentley, Walcott
      Odemwingie, RVP, Suarez

      Subs: Robinson, Nani, Kolorov, Walker

      plus 6 mill left over!

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      1. hillbillypete
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        suarez?!

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        1. mullenlad
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          Just have a feeling he'll go goal crazy against Wigan.

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    • Locarno
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      Who named Trojan condoms?

      The Trojan horse entered through the city gates, broke open and loads of little guys came out and f*cked everyone's day up.

      Doesn't fill me with confidence.

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      1. kroky
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        🙂

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        1. Demí
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          hi kroky, next time you need advice, don't hesitate to ask 😀

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          1. kroky
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            yeah, great call. just shows that the logical choice isnt always the best option.

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    • Suarezchomper
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      Am I crazy for thinking of taking berbatov out and putting Odemwingie in? Looking at man utds fixtures For the next 3/4 games and I dont see many returns for the attackers. Then gw 28 Odemwingie to Saha looks a good option. Is that logical?

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      1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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        yeah crazy, dont do it.

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        1. Alex Hunter
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          hahah

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        2. Suarezchomper
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          I know your a cock alot of the time in a funny way and I should of mentioned the fact that if I get rid I'll lose money on berba and won't have enough to bring him back.

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      2. Back on the horse
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        yeah, go for it

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    • cucumber
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      when will we know what games are on/off in GW28?

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    • Little Lukin
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      H2H leagues are a bit of a folly IMO. Last place overall points is 2nd in my league. I'm 18th and have faced around 6 or 7 wildcard teams so far. Much luck involved, still worth a look though 😀

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      1. greghammer95
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        Yeaa. It is just a case of how the fixtures are drawn to be quite honest. And if you pick a decent enough team each week. Would be near enough impossible to go unbeaten all year.

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      2. Alex Hunter
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        ya, it's bs. i've lost all of mine and am one of the highest pts. totals. glad i never played h2h and would delete if i could. i don't even bother w/matching up and just go for best overall total. hopefully it works itself out.

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        1. Little Lukin
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          14 years, 11 months ago

          I'd quite like to stay in the FPL H2H leagues but would be a blessing if I got booted cos the more time I spend on this the worse I get

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      3. Gargamel
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        Yeah, not worth the effort. I like the fantasy cups but I'd never be in an H2H league.

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        1. kroky
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          its great! i just beat my opponent 72-71 thanks to a stephen carr clean sheet 🙂

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          1. Little Lukin
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            It can be exciting

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    • Art Vandelay
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      Quick poll.

      A) Bentley

      B) Brunt

      Cheers

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      1. Alex Hunter
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        is brunt on pens?

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        1. Little Lukin
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          I would have to guess that Wingie is on Pens, he missed his last but that doesnt seem to matter anymore

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      2. Alex Hunter
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        i'm just wary now w/di matteo out how things might change under a a new manager and they're in poor form.

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        1. Art Vandelay
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          This is what I was thinking. Bentley has two DGWs but could cause me problems in GW28..

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    • Locarno
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      Stat of the day(ish): The last three 4-4 Premier League results, Arsenal have been involved in the lot.

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      1. greghammer95
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        Newcastle Spurs and.............?

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        1. Gargamel
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          Liverpool I guess

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          1. Locarno
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            Aye. But Spurs hold the record with four 4-alls: Leicester City, Villa, Chelsea and Arsenal.

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        2. cucumber
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          Liverpool

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    • More Cowbell
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      Oh yeah, wildcard activated. That's me getting no work done this week then.

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      1. BKR
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        Hey SC, this is the last chance for that extra WC..!
        make use of it to the best

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        1. More Cowbell
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          I intend to BKR, don't you worry. Plenty to ponder over now though!

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    • BKR
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      thinking of selling tevez & defender for odem & DGW defnder ...

      Last week 8pnt hit has given me good returns... not bothered about 4pnt hit

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    • Epic Fail
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      For the upcoming GW, I am seriously considering benching Tevez and playing Barton. Am I living up to my name or does it make slight sense?

      If Man City were playing other team I wouldn't even think about it, but I don't think Tevez will score, and even if it does, I can't see it being more than 1, which will only be a couple of points more than Barton gets over 2 games if he does naff all.

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      1. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Makes total sense.

        If in doubt you can have a look at their PPG. Barton has 4.6 PPG and Tevez has 6.7.

        So ON AVERAGE next gameweek Barton will get 9.2 (4.6 x 2) points and Tevez 6.7.

        Pretty handy for double gameweeks.

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        1. Epic Fail
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          Nice one, thats a good way to look at it. I don't feel so stupid now. 8)

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        2. andy85wsm
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          That IS a nice way to look at it. I'm too stupid to think logically

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    • Reed_Rothchild
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      I know Lamps, Drogba, and Terry are all on the wrong side of 30 and Abromovich is tiring of his toy, but I don't see where Torres fits in the Chelski scheme of things. He should have finished out the season and moved on to a Spanish club in the summer.

      Those people with a hard-on for Cahill are in for a disappointment with the recent emergence of Saha. Don't see the former Milwall player doing as well as before he left for the Asian Cup.

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      1. Nomar
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        Agree about Cahill.

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      2. Alex Hunter
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        if you were liverpool, would you turn down 50M on a striker who put in his request and didn't want to be there? if anything his stock would have fallen as he may have got injured again. where in spain? only two clubs worth playing for that can afford him and one he'd never play for, while the other are already stacked up top. i was thinking more like italy.

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        1. Reed_Rothchild
          • 16 Years
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          Real are so desperate for a striker that Christino Ronaldo has been playing upfront alone.

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          1. dave_the_bear
            • 16 Years
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            Adebayor has two already.

            So could be on for a permanent move if he keeps it up.

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          2. Alex Hunter
            • 15 Years
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            after torres admitted that he loves athletico his boyhood club, not liverpool, you think he'd go to real? he'd get death threats there.

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      3. dave_the_bear
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        14 years, 11 months ago

        Terry could play another 5 years at least if he avoids injury.
        Can't get any slower.
        Lamps and Drog can defo play for years to come too.
        Dunno where people get this s**t that once you hit 30 you aren't 'up for it' anymore.

        Look at Scholes and Giggs.

        I don't see where Torres fits either but I'm sure he'll click in eventually and Liverpool was probably the worst team he could have played against.

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        1. Reed_Rothchild
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Scholes and Giggs don't play every game, and if Anderson had played up to his potential and Valencia wasn't injured, one of them would be gone already. Manu's weakness is the midfield. That's why they lost yesterday.

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          1. dave_the_bear
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            14 years, 11 months ago

            http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6708724,00.html

            Im sure Terry feels the same.

            Wolves played very well yesterday no question. They did the same thing to Chelsea and Away to Liverpool.

            If and Buts are the basis of your very weak argument.

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    • Alex Hunter
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      i'm benching tevez too if that helps :/ only playing dgw strikers, wingie and rvp.

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      1. Epic Fail
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        14 years, 11 months ago

        Good to see I'm not the only one then, cheers. It just seems weird even thinking about benching Tevez, but I think it makes sense with the double GW.

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        1. Nomar
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          14 years, 11 months ago

          I'm playing Carlito and benching Nani.

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          1. Alex Hunter
            • 15 Years
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            city will go for the draw again, especially since away from home this time. united at home coming off a loss and are pissed wanting to make a point and extend their lead against local rivals - perfect game for them to bounce back imo.

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            1. kroky
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 11 months ago

              or go on a slide

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        2. kroky
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          im benching him too

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        3. Mr. Tambourine Man
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          I'm playing him, but only because I have a couple of non-DGW player spots to fill. I can see the City/United game end up a cautious 0-0 affair, so I don't think it's criminal to leave him on the bench.

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    • jagz
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      opinions on this team?

      foster(hart)
      r.johnson,kolarov,huth(coleman,evatt)
      vdv,nolan,fab,nani,adam[c]
      rvp,odemwingie(tevez)

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      1. Reed_Rothchild
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Play Coleman over Kolarov. Citeh will not get a clean sheet.

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    • "The Special One"
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Can some1 rate my team...
      Should i save the transfer or not?? Suggestions please

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
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        Nice-looking bench. 🙂

        At first glance, I would say not enough DGW players.

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        1. "The Special One"
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          yeah its gna be hard every week to bench 4, what players should i look to be getting in this gameweek...
          Birmingham DEF??
          Arsenal ATT??

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    • Pack The Ripper
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      As a Chelsea supporter im constantly finding myself gutted to see our players bang on in the press how we are "Buzzing" and going to "win all our remaining games" only for them to let us down on the pitch. What were Chelsea defense thinking for the goal today? players all drawn to the ball leaving Meirieles unmarked. We were so average at best today.

      Im second in my league and gone from 10 behind last weekend to 56 points behind leader now. Game over!

      Sorry to rant, needed to vent :d)

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    • RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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      anyone benching tevez this week to play five in the middle? its very tempting, i can see fergie 451 and with city probably gonna do the same thing, it might be worth playing five in midfield (an extra doubler or whatever) and keeping tevez for the following week.

      im currently
      walcott, nani, etherington, adam
      rvp, odem

      idea is to lose VDV for someone, and bench tevez, or lose tevez for a wek and get carew for the doubler too, then get tevez bac next week

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
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        I'm thinking 3-5-2 or 4-4-2, can't decide what to do with Kolarov/Nani/Tevez

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      2. Alex Hunter
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        i'm benching tevez and still debating on another mf. but i'm also benching vdv as he's only out short-term. i'll probably play 4-4-2.

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        1. Epic Fail
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          I did think about benching VDV, but he's got a blank the week after if I remember correctly.

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          1. andy85wsm
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            Currently has yeah. It's annoying because we won't find out if he's playing in that game until during GW27. I'm probably going to get rid of VDV, would currently lose 0.5m but once he gets red flagged he should drop a bit

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            1. Alex Hunter
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              season keeper for me, i'd want him back at some point then wouldn't be able to afford him since i bought him straight away.

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              1. andy85wsm
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                I bought him straight away too, but I can afford to get him back. Like I said he will go down a bit once hes red flagged. Rather have someone I can actually play over GW27/28 and maybe 29.

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      3. Epic Fail
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        I have exactly the same team that you mentioned there except I have Barton instead of Ethers, and I'm am thinking the same as you. Interesting idea about Carew.

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      4. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
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        I'm planning on playing a 3-4-3 RBJ, and that incudes Tevez.

        At the moment I'm dropping Nani and my front 3 are RVP, Tevez and Odem. On WC this week and currently have a MF of VdV, Nolan, Adam and Fabs. Seriously thinking of gambling with Walcott in for VdV though.

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        1. Reed_Rothchild
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          I just got rid of VDV for Walcott.

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          1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
            • 16 Years
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            puter went down there lads.

            yeah, need some planing but something must be done 🙂

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    • andy85wsm
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      Anyone think Torres' substitution showed that maybe Carlo didn't have much say in the transfer?

      Could quite easily be a coincidence, I guess him nor Drogba were doing much anyway.

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    • BKR
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      Hey Stunning,

      whats your team like this GW??

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    • stevev
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      Hi guys... Anyone got any idea when we might know if asr / tot have their week 28 game on. Looking at bringing in Odemwing and fab but don't want too many non players for the week after... Cheers

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    • Fudge
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      Is this worth a 8pt hit?

      Djourou -> R Johnson
      N'Zogbia -> Walcott
      Dzeko -> Odemwingie

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      1. Tanjiro
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        Not the middle one.

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        1. jpoler1
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          I think so

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        2. Fudge
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          I have 3.1 left over doing that.
          Why not the Nzog -> Walcott? Tbh i will want Cahill from GW 28 onwards, but the Walcott double looks good, so why not that, and then next week Walcott -> Cahill?

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    • Reed_Rothchild
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      The Torres transfer will prove to be as bad as the Shevchenko transfer.

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      1. Alex Hunter
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        his face said it all - "what on earth did i do?!" haha.

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      2. andy85wsm
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        We can only hope

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    • trisonetwo
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      any idea what happens in the ppc when we draw?

      is it highest rank?

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
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        yup

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    • cucumber
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      Dilemma here

      Have 6 double GW players plus Djourou and VDV

      original plan was to have 2 free transfers for next week with players not playing and so on, but now wondering whether I should take out djourou. Have carr already so should I get Kelly/Evatt/Williamson?

      or stick with my plan to have 2 frees next week?

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    • jpoler1
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      Tell me what you think please:

      Djourou> Johnson R
      Torres>Odemwingie
      Suarez> RVP

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      1. Syd.
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        I am thinking why the fook you have Suarez..

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        1. jpoler1
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          Same here...lol

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          1. jpoler1
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            What do you think though?

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            1. Syd.
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              They look very good but remember that Arsenal & Brum will miss GW28

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      2. Tanjiro
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        They look good.

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    • Dave Bauer
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      Can someone summarise which games are currently left to be scheduled in before the end of the season?

      Chelsea v Man U
      Chelsea v Everton
      Spurs v Arsenal

      Any others?

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      1. Syd.
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        Chelsea v Utd GW36... if Chelsea beat Everton
        Spurs v Arsenal GW36

        Chelsea v Everton.. 19th Feb

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