Pre Season Section Now Live

With July now upon us, the Pre-Season section of the site is up and running once again as we edge towards the first batch of friendlies. We’ve collated the current summer schedule for all 20 Premier League clubs and also added links to every article referencing the upcoming season, from Moving Targets to Sleepers, Great Expectations to Scout Reports to Fixture Analysis pieces, in addition to a look back at the three promoted sides displays in the previous campaign.

We’ll be updating the Pre-Season section on a daily basis, adding every article upon publication. Each team also has their own “Scout Notes” and “Form Players” sections – we’ll be scouring the friendlies and, as well as rolling out plenty of Scout Scribbles articles to cover the games, will be using this as a handy one-stop-shop for your guide ahead of next month’s kick-off.

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Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
10 years, 11 months ago
Ah pre-season... An FPL minefield designed to allure and deceive you towards players that end up stinking your squad to high heaven.
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TorresMagic™
10 years, 11 months ago
Looking forward to finding the next Boselli.
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1. Saniul
  10 years, 11 months ago
  *Graham.
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2. Willis.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Ricky van Wolfswinkel.
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  1. Saniul
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Or Cornelius.
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3. Carl@streetkids.com.au
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Drenthe
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Saniul
10 years, 11 months ago
Not a long enough summer for some of the players, the Confed gets over, and lo, the pre-season starts.

The expression on the face of the person in the picture clearly indicates that. 😉
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stilicho
10 years, 11 months ago
I'm not sure Crystal Palace will have enough energy left for PL after that gruelling pre-season schedule.
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1. stilicho
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Dulwich Hamlet are no mugs.
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  1. teddy.
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Something rotten in the state of Dulwich?
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Tadic is the new Eriksen
10 years, 11 months ago
Apparently Everton are coming to Vienna to play Against Austria (Vienna), should be a good oppertunity to do some Mirallas-scouting 😀
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Saniul
10 years, 11 months ago
No articles written related to Arsenal, yet.

I take offence. 🙁
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1. TorresMagic™
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Get them to buy some players.
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  1. Saniul
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Come on, Paul should have written a Sleeper on Oxlade-Chamberlain, atleast.
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    1. TorresMagic™
      10 years, 11 months ago
      I'm sure he sleeps on the bench.
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    2. Mílanista
      10 years, 11 months ago
      Here's the article on Ox:
      
      He won't start anywhere near enough games to be worth having.
      
      Happy? 😉
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      1. teddy.
        10 years, 11 months ago
        Indeed. Walcott has been at Arsenal since 2006 and only became a fantasy mainstay last season.
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        TorresMagic™
        10 years, 11 months ago
        Injuries really didn't help him though.
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        teddy.
        10 years, 11 months ago
        His starts over those seasons:
        
        06/07: 5
        07/08: 11
        08/09: 16
        09/10: 12
        10/11: 19
        11/12: 32
        12/13: 24
        
        Not worth picking in his first 5 seasons. Wait and see with Ox.
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        TorresMagic™
        10 years, 11 months ago
        How many games was he on the bench & not injured?
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        teddy.
        10 years, 11 months ago
        Dunno. Sub appearances:
        
        05/06: 1
        06/07: 16
        07/08: 18
        08/09: 6
        09/10: 13
        10/11: 13
        11/12: 3
        12/13: 9
        
        Basically, I'm speaking from bitter experience. Been championing Theo for 7 years, and picking him in FPL when fit, when I shouldn't have bothered. Not going to make the same mistake with the Ox.
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Spencer
10 years, 11 months ago
It's from Twitter, so probably made up rubbish. But this is supposedly taken by Henoc Mukendi of Samed Yeşil.

https://twitter.com/hthr182/status/352890460181774338/photo/1
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1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Who of who?
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  1. Spencer
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Liverpool youth team players.
    
    Yeşil looked pretty good playing for Germany (U19s I think).
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How many fantasy football games do you plan to play?
J0E
10 years, 11 months ago
Fantasy Football Scout Daily Hot Topic

How many fantasy football games do you plan to play in the 2013/14 season?

Which ones do you plan to play and will it be more or less than last season?

It would be good to find out who played the most last season and how they coped with the differing formats.
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1. Bigo1
  10 years, 11 months ago
  3 for me: FPL, Sky and a draft. Draft is by far the most exciting, with good banters and lots of beers.
  I just switched TFF for Sky this year
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2. Demí
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Only FPL last season. Plan to do Metro this year too.
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3. Mark
  10 years, 11 months ago
  I'm going for a full Decathlon this season - inspired by an encouraging Sky showing, I'll hit as many as possible and see what sticks after a few months.
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  1. King Nil Miss ✩
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Although I´m not qualified for prizes in the Sky game I gave it a shot 2 seasons ago, limited transfers and not being able to tinker with your team kept me away from it till eventually I gave up!
    
    This is where FPL is best at, keeps your interest every day as you can tinker with your team as keep up with the latest news on injuries and form and of course as many transfers as you like.
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  2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Mak ... Maybe you can encourage Anorak and Co to crank out the Iron Man Challenge again .... I'm pretty sure you'll be welcome to join 😉
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    1. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
      10 years, 10 months ago
      Make it easier too and just use only FPL Sky and Metro only 🙂
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4. @Bryan
  10 years, 11 months ago
  2, FPL and Sky Sports. I started off fantasy footy back in the day with the sky game, so always have a team, even if I now prefer fpl. Sky is like the family friendly version of fantasy footy, easier to do well in and has real prizes.
  
  Never had a stint in the top 1,000 in fpl in the last two years, had stints in top 10 in sky sports. FFS is starting to ruin the monopoly though with your articles on sky 😉
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5. Fray Bentos
  10 years, 11 months ago
  I’m thinking of going with three this season – FPL Sky and Metro, but with the latter two if I don’t get off to a good start, will most likely stop playing and focus on FPL which at the end of the day is the only one that people care about
  
  One issue I have always found with playing multiple games, sometimes you think twice about getting a player in because he is in a team in another game – I don’t like to have all eggs in one basket but then miss out on the points
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6. J0E
  10 years, 11 months ago
  I did Sky, Metro and FPL last season.
  
  Will do all three again but will try a bit harder with Sky this season.
  
  I'll see what else is out there, may be tempted by one more.
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  1. Fifa las vegas
    10 years, 10 months ago
    irish times 😉
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  2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
    10 years, 10 months ago
    @jonty seems the Iron Man Challenge is the thing for you !
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    1. TorresMagic™
      10 years, 10 months ago
      PDM, you fantasy addict....
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7. TorresMagic™
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Just FPL again.
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8. Gigging Order
  10 years, 11 months ago
  I played Sky and FPL last year, joined Metro but never played it.
  
  Considering playing all three properly this year, and maybe joining a few more like Mark's approach and see if I get a good start in any.
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9. Ryan
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Just FPL. Although I often get involved in sub categories of FPL, like Uefa council competitions (which often take no extra effort).
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10. SW6
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Played FPL and UCL last year. Will do FPL and Sky this year.
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11. Johnny Unitas
  10 years, 11 months ago
  I'll be playing FPL and METRO as I always do and if SKY can improve their live scoring and interface I'd do that again. Other than that I think I enjoyed UCL last year much more without the bother of fantasy so I'll see about that.
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12. Carl@streetkids.com.au
  10 years, 11 months ago
  FPL
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13. Mílanista
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Usually do FPL and play UCL on top but don't take it seriously. Adding Sky to the mix this time but having drafted my teams I don't plan to look at it again until just before the season starts.
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14. Oldman Unathletic
  10 years, 11 months ago
  FPL and Sky this season. Did the same last season but stopped Sky after a few weeks.
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15. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Two, possibly four.
  
  FPL
  Metro(You and ILF persuaded me
  FCL
  FEuropa
  
  If we have another debacle on the last two ...
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  1. Fray Bentos
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Europa must be tough – I barely know many players beyond the english teams!
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    1. teddy.
      10 years, 11 months ago
      It's a nightmare. The bigger teams also rest half their players.
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16. Mr Sarcastic
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Propably still end up playing FPL and CL.
  World cup next summer, don't know if it's still this season 🙂
  
  It will be one more than this year (takes phone and calls shrink).
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17. teddy.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  FPL
  Sky
  UCL
  Metro
  Metro UCL
  IKTS
  TFF
  
  Maybe a draft and maybe one other.
  
  That's a scale down from last season when I played all those plus Mirror and Sun.
  
  There may be some sort of Ironman league for some of us who are all playing a certain selection of say 5 games...
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  1. Willis.
    10 years, 11 months ago
    LOL get a life
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    1. teddy.
      10 years, 11 months ago
      Who is the fool? The fantasy addict? Or the fantasy addict who derides the addiction of other addicts?
      
      Get a grav.
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  2. Sheep
    10 years, 11 months ago
    UCL? 😯
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    1. teddy.
      10 years, 11 months ago
      Uefa Champions League?
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      1. Sheep
        10 years, 11 months ago
        I know, but WHY? 🙂
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        teddy.
        10 years, 10 months ago
        It's lots of fun. I came 39th in the Metro one last season. I was 6th after getting Mktaryan GW1. Good for scouting players before they join the Premier League. Also despite the glitches, things like manager subs make an interesting addition to the game.
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18. Gimli son of Gloin
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Just FPL last year. Plan to take it a bit more seriously this year.
  Also taking up Sky which I'll focus on if I get a bit of luck early on, purely for the prizes, not fond of the format though.
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19. Sheep
  10 years, 11 months ago
  1.5.
  
  FPL & PlayON
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20. Woeisme
  10 years, 10 months ago
  Sky's 30,000 prize caught my eye and seems to warrant at least an effort. Haven't played it before so expecting a steep learning curve. Eg. someone told me that Michael Carrick was a viable option in this game??
  
  So 2 this year
  FPL
  SKY
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21. 13allack
  10 years, 10 months ago
  Played FPL, UCL, UEL and PlayON last season.. planning on adding a few this season, probably SKY and Metro.. #GetALife
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22. Your Doing It Wrong
  10 years, 10 months ago
  Last year Sky Sports, Metro Prem & Metro UCL, FIFA UCL, FPL & Player Exchange, Telegraph, Sun, Daily Mail, IKTS. This year probably no UCL action as I cannot be fussed to keep up on the European leagues as well.
  
  Metro is my favorite as the scoring system is tremendous as you can get 50s & 60s from midfielders who don't score and defenders who conceded. I finally had a good year on it last year but ran out of steam at the end.
  
  I am liking the changes to Sky this year. Started really well last year with Hazard (c), Michu, Petric and others GW1 but still manage to steal defeat from the jaws of victory by 1 pt. Ran out of subs so an extra 10 will help and the (c) change will make it interesting.
  
  FPL I am getting better thanks to FFS last year got a decent wedge from 3rd in the work league. The whole PPI & Bonus thing though *shakes head* hopefully this year will be better as they will be using OPTA stats.
  
  Daily Mail is different as you can use the whole of your 15 man team and you get points for win bonuses and from the FA Cup as well.
  
  Sun is ok but its all about the long term and if you haven't got a good team together by the 3rd window your pretty stuffed and any bad injuries can kill any chance you have if they come at the wrong time.
  
  Player Exchange last year was something different but it was all about the "all ins" if you wanted to score anything decent.
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Ryan
10 years, 11 months ago
I don't fancy the pre season schedule for Crystal Palace too much.

July 20 – Dagenham and Redbridge (a)
July 23 – Gillingham (a)
July 27 – Crawley Town (a)
August 3 – Waterford United (a)
August 6 – Dulwich Hamlet (a)

I doubt we will learn a lot there. Hardly competition is it.
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1. roscola
  10 years, 11 months ago
  That is just stupidity. In what way does that prepare them for Premier League football? Just setting themselves up for a nasty shock, I think.
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  1. Ryan
    10 years, 11 months ago
    It will make it hard for us to scout FPL potential that's for sure.
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    1. ScotsmanAbroad
      10 years, 11 months ago
      They may as well just send their players on a lad's week to Ibiza!!!
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2. @Bryan
  10 years, 11 months ago
  The old practice of getting the confidence up before the season method then. Doubt it's wisdom at this level.
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3. Fray Bentos
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Waterford united?! Who are they?!
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  1. @Bryan
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Quaint lil team in a mildly sunny part of Ireland 😉
    
    Nice beaches around there...must be a coincidence..
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    1. Fray Bentos
      10 years, 11 months ago
      I think palace could be derby style whipping boys this season. Its been a while since we had a promoted team like that and would be a factor when deciding your captain – ‘who have palace got this week…?’
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      1. @Bryan
        10 years, 11 months ago
        Bale and Spurs should test them 1st GW alright. They may be in for a shock.
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  2. stephenl15
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Seanie Maguire of West Ham signed from them last season 🙂
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  3. Gimli son of Gloin
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Stadium is about 20 minutes from my house.. can't say they'll be much of a challenge haha
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4. Gilbo88
  10 years, 11 months ago
  They obviously don't like to travel very far! I won't have anyone bad-mouthing the Gills though - if it wasn't for 2 injury time goals in 1999 the likes of Aguero and David Silva would be playing for us!!!
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5. J0E
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Have they got any home friendlies? It could be that is just their away ones. Does seem a bit lightweight if that's all they've got. Crawley and Gillingham will give them a good game, but needs at least a good Spanish or French team with some skill in the mix.
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  1. Ryan
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Nope. That's all the pre season games they have according to FFS
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    1. J0E
      10 years, 10 months ago
      eeks. Note to self...get players in who are playing Palace in the first six gameweeks.
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      1. Marknlard
        10 years, 10 months ago
        I'm doing that all season.
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      2. Ryan
        10 years, 10 months ago
        Tott, Sun, Sot. These teams face them early and have decent enough fixtures
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r0binh0
10 years, 11 months ago
Can anyone give me a feel for who is a MotM darling for Sky sports? To see Suarez on 10 and RvP 4 for last season suggests there's some bias going on a la Adam a few years ago in FPL. Ashley Williams also got 8. Any others that people remember?
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1. Gigging Order
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Hazard I think, and Foster maybe
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2. d1sable
  10 years, 10 months ago
  They are shocking at the MOTM to be honest, it often differs from the advertised one during the game and feels more like the person who worte the articles prefrence or player in his own fantasy team (the sky employes league came 3rd or something overall).
  
  From memory can give you the most voted per team
  
  Arsenal - Cazorla
  Aston Villa - Benteke
  Chelsea - Hazard/Mata/Lampard
  Everton - Fellani/Baines/Jagielka
  Fulham - Berbatov
  Liverpool - Suarez
  Man City - Toure
  Man Utd - RVP/Carrick
  Newcastle - Cabaye when fit
  Norwich - Snodgrass/Bassong
  Southampton - Schneiderin/Lambart
  Stoke - Shawcross (by a mile)
  Sunderland - John O Shea? not many
  Swansea - Michu
  Tottenham - Bale
  West Brom - Lukaku
  West ham - Reid/Jask/Noble
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Jafooli
10 years, 11 months ago
Excellent, being waiting for this bad boy. Another step nearer the start line.

Great work all involved 😀

Can we get assists and team sheets for each friendly, in addition to score and goal scorers? 😉
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1. teddy.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  We had preseason match team sheets last year. If the data is available it will be available here.
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Official TWS Reporter
10 years, 11 months ago
Aston Villa will be using up their remaining budget of 94 tokens in Round 4. Their strategy is then to make some profit on them in the transfer window. The source of this news is from a rival club, who claim to have recruited a spy in the Villa dressing room.
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1. Ryan
  10 years, 11 months ago
  That's just stupid. Such a strategy could only end in tears.
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  1. TorresMagic™
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Aston Villa to win. They will beat your bids by one.
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2. SuperOsçarBaby
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Messi/Ronaldo? 😉
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3. Tommytour
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Messi 50 tokens
  Ronaldo 40 tokens
  Heskey 4 tokens
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  1. SuperOsçarBaby
    10 years, 11 months ago
    no bendtner 😯
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Mr Sarcastic
10 years, 11 months ago
Pre-Season - time to find that cheap third forward!

Hands up who else has had them all, Holy Trinity of SEB & Boselli & Graham ?
And no, I don't mean at the same time 😉

(Talks to himself; I don't get wolsfwinkelman, I don't get wolfswinkel, I don't get.....).
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1. Gigging Order
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Just Graham, and I stuck with him for way too long...
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2. @Bryan
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Somehow avoided them all. Got caught by Moses though. Ah well, he was not too bad in the end...
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3. TorresMagic™
  10 years, 11 months ago
  o/
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  1. TorresMagic™
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Not sure on Boselli but i think so.
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4. Carl@streetkids.com.au
  10 years, 11 months ago
  No cheap third forwards.
  
  Three big ones up front.
  
  Three big ones in the middle with two cheap goodies.
  
  Five of the best you can get at the back
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5. Get up ya bum
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Hopefully JRod sneaks under the radar price wise. Anybody seen this Gayle chap play?
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Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
10 years, 11 months ago
I made this, just for you guys ... ! 😉

http://www.whufc.com/articles/20130705/noble-kick-starts-olympic-journey_2236884_3228985
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1. Mílanista
  10 years, 11 months ago
  So, that's where you've been 🙂
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  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Yep. Operating the diggers, too!
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2. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Thanks Doosra, Cut, pasted and stored, for posterior. 🙂
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3. Fifa las vegas
  10 years, 10 months ago
  WH got the olympic Stadium 😯
  I hadn't known thaT! 🙂
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KickIt
10 years, 11 months ago
Think I have a good idea of my team plan for the first few weeks, assuming I have the pricing right:-

GW1
Jaask (5.5) [Boruc(4.5)]
Ivanovic (7), Jones (4.5), Turner (5) [Santon (5), Shaw (4.5)]
Bale (12), Hazard (10), Noble/Koren (5), Mirallas (6.5) [Ramirez 5.5]
Cavani/Torres (10), Carroll (8), RVW (6.5)

All adds up to 99.5M, so a little spare just in case. Have used Tommies cheap 5 man rotation (c).

GW2: Ivanovic -> Hobbs/Chester (4)
GW3: Hazard -> HBA (6.5)
GW4: RVW -> RVP (13.5)

All adds up to 100M, so hoping to avoid price rises.

GW4
Boruc(4.5) [Jaask (5.5)]
Hobbs/Chester(4), Santon (5), Shaw (4.5) [Jones (4.5), Turner (5)]
Bale (12), HBA(6.5), Noble/Koren (5), Mirallas (6.5), Ramirez 5.5
Carroll (8), RVP (13.5) [Cavani/Torres (10)]

If RVW does the business then I would drop Carroll instead GW4, use the extra 1.5 to get Kagawa or Countinho in midfield.

I know it's early but I am bored! So any thoughts on prices, tactics and transfers?
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1. Mílanista
  10 years, 11 months ago
  I agree, you are bored.
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  1. KickIt
    10 years, 11 months ago
    🙂
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  2. Mílanista
    10 years, 11 months ago
    I actually think this level of planning is counter productive, links in to the hot topic on FPL fatigue.
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    1. KickIt
      10 years, 11 months ago
      Depends, I personally love the planning......hence doing this type of pre-planning that will most likely completely change. Just gets my brain cells going, especially with the thought of a cheap defense and Bale + RVP debate.
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2. @Bryan
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Too early lad! Until we know prices, and even then most won't really pick a team until after Charity Shield 🙂
  
  Tactics wise, I may go heavy on doubler's this year for GW1 and WC for GW2. Catch the early price wises and hope Chelsea smash it again early doors.
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  1. KickIt
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Promised myself to take a lot less hits and to keep my WC this season.
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3. Tommytour
  10 years, 11 months ago
  I'd look to spend less in defence and upgrade Koren/Ramirez
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4. Get up ya bum
  10 years, 11 months ago
  😮
  You do realize you're getting way too far ahead of yourself here? FWIW I think Bale will be 12.5/13, Hazard and Cavani 11 each
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  1. KickIt
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Yep, way too early but just seeing what I could do. Not sure if I am out with the pricing.
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5. Tadic is the new Eriksen
  10 years, 11 months ago
  o_O
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6. SuperOsçarBaby
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Ivanovic->other
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  1. KickIt
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Probably, but just added a CHE defender in oreperation for the DGW that is not announced yet. 🙂
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Count of Monte Hristo
10 years, 11 months ago
When do PL clubs start pre season usually? The first week in July?
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1. Get up ya bum
  10 years, 11 months ago
  See the pre season section
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2. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  A couple start this weekend.
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3. Carl@streetkids.com.au
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Let me Google that for you.
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  1. Count of Monte Hristo
    10 years, 11 months ago
    I mean when do they start training bitches not when the games start.
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    1. Willis.
      10 years, 11 months ago
      Well that escalated quickly.
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    2. Carl@streetkids.com.au
      10 years, 11 months ago
      Couldn't say when they start training bitches but
      
      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.com%2F%3Fq%3Dwhen%2Bdo%2Bthe%2Bpremier%2Bleague%2Bstart%2Bpre%2Bseason%2Btraining
      
      The second result is particularly good and gives a reasonable indicationeven if it from 2011.
      
      Not bad for 5 seconds work.
      
      Tosspot
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      1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
        10 years, 10 months ago
        or even
        
        http://lmgtfy.com/?q=when+do+the+premier+league+start+pre+season+training
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In Like Flynn.
10 years, 11 months ago
Metro, Sky, Mirror (probable) Mail, Telegraph, Phones 4U and probably throw something together for that other one.

Will replace the Sun game with Yahoo.

I may do 1 or 2 more if they come to my attention and are different enough.
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1. Gigging Order
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Phones 4U, always make me laugh for some reason, I loved that on the podcast! 🙂
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  1. In Like Flynn.
    10 years, 11 months ago
    It's a bonkers game Gigging Order, doesn't take much out of your week though.
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    1. Gigging Order
      10 years, 11 months ago
      I might take a look! 🙂
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2. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  😳 massive reply fail to Jonty's post. I'm tired.
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3. teddy.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Is the Yahoo game any good? Or the Phones4U one?
  
  I'm dropping Sun and Mirror this season.
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  1. In Like Flynn.
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Phones 4U is a Championship game Teddy. As basic as you get, unless they've changed ALL the rules. Very useful for seeing players who may get transferred at Christmas, or promoted at the end of the season.
    
    I've not played Yahoo, registered last year then lost password and login details. Gave up/too busy.
    
    If you don't get off to a flier in the Sun you're stuffed imo, and the European strikers in the Mirror drove me nuts, as I kept missing deadlines (my own fault of course). 11.30 French kickoffs. 😡
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    1. teddy.
      10 years, 11 months ago
      Yup. And they were super slow at updating the European player scores. It didn't add anything to my playing experience.
      
      Don't follow the Championship in the slightest. So that's not for me.
      
      Think I'll let you scout out the Yahoo game and report back...
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      1. In Like Flynn.
        10 years, 10 months ago
        I emailed the Mirror end of season. I doubt it'll make much difference. I guess those that like something different, it will be what makes the game for them.
        
        Will do.
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  2. WALOR
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Have played Yahoo for 5 seasons.
    You have not lived until you've had Unlimited transfers each week.
    This season, they are introducing 4 bench players, a captain, and live scoring.
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    1. In Like Flynn.
      10 years, 10 months ago
      WOW!! So a whole new team every week if you want?
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      1. WALOR
        10 years, 10 months ago
        If you like, but prices rise quickly, as determined by player performance, so if someone has a hat trick, you have to buy them within an hour, or they'll become unaffordable.
        
        So RvP spent most of last season priced at around 30 (out of 100 budget).
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4. Tommytour
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Did the games you finished highest in match the amount of time you spent on them?
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  1. In Like Flynn.
    10 years, 11 months ago
    Not really TT, I'd played Metro the year before so was comfortable with it.
    
    Spent most time on FPL!! For all the good it did me.
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5. J0E
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Still yet to find anyone to play more than you.
  
  Remember the golden rule Cazorla is a beast in Metro, just good in FPL. 😉
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  1. Gigging Order
    10 years, 11 months ago
    And a beast in Sky...
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  2. In Like Flynn.
    10 years, 11 months ago
    I think Mark may be about to take up the gauntlet.
    
    Aye Metro and Sky I think Jonty.
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6. Count of Monte Hristo
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Do you play them all properly? Does it not get a bit much trying to get all those team sorted every week?
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  1. In Like Flynn.
    10 years, 10 months ago
    I'd like to think I do.
    
    I miss a few deadlines from time to time Count. Or put a great player in one game in a different one by mistake or without thought. Which can be expensive.
    
    You have to be patient with the limited transfer games, so you're not rushing at them every week.
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King Nil Miss ✩
10 years, 11 months ago
Awesome 360º panoramic photo of the confederations cup final.

Zoom in on the Spanish bench to see the 3 Amigos that are together there, 3 of the best playmakers playing in PL... just sitting there...

http://www.fifa.com/confederationscup/matches/round=255211/match=300222461/panoramicphoto.html
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Tommytour
10 years, 11 months ago
With all this talk of uber defences anyone considered just getting 3 cheapies and forget rotation? My mate does this and doesn't work out too badly.

Turner 4.5 Clyne 4.5 Jones 4.5 Cardiff 4 Hull 4

Norwich Southampton WBA all have great starts so little need for rotation, CS dont always come at home, plus you have a fall back option of a Cardiff or Hull defender if needed.
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1. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  There's a load of stuff about the defences on the previous article or on Hot Topics TT.
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2. Gimli son of Gloin
  10 years, 11 months ago
  I'll probably just pick the 5 cheapest defenders with the best potential for points, not based on whether they rotate.
  Might go for one 5.0 if Coleman is classified a defender.
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3. RoysCallerAnne
  10 years, 10 months ago
  This is pretty much my plan. 4.5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.0, 4.0
  
  and just pick the teams withe strongest starts. I'm only using rotation for my cheap GKs. Rotation leads to heartache, stress and benchwarmers become troublesome because what do you do, replace him with another from the same team? nahhh
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  1. RoysCallerAnne
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Maybe a Che defender at the start, ofc, if they've a DGW
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In Like Flynn.
10 years, 11 months ago
Thanks for all the work on that pre-season section Paul.

Makes it so much easier when you're trying to look up the friendly results, if you have half an idea when and where they were played.
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1. King Nil Miss ✩
  10 years, 11 months ago
  +1
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2. RoysCallerAnne
  10 years, 10 months ago
  The links to Sleeper, Moving Target articles etc. for each team are very handy indeed. I don't remember that being done in previous summers?
  Top work Paul.
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Count of Monte Hristo
10 years, 11 months ago
Arsenal v Man City in Finland 😯
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1. teddy.
  10 years, 11 months ago
  Lap it up.
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Sheep
10 years, 11 months ago
Why do Sunderland only have a couple of pre-season fixtures?
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1. SuperOsçarBaby
  10 years, 11 months ago
  titus bramble effect
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2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
  10 years, 10 months ago
  Particularly weird considering how unhappy Di Can8o was with the team's fitness. They've made a few signings too. If I was Paolo I'd want to see them in action together before the season kicked off.
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    10 years, 10 months ago
    *Canio - in case anyone believed I thought he spelt his name with an 8...
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3. Count of Monte Hristo
  10 years, 10 months ago
  There will be some lower league fixtures lined up no doubt.
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Count of Monte Hristo
10 years, 10 months ago
Great Expectations for United.

Kagawa so far. Do you expect Phil Jones to be in there?
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1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
  10 years, 10 months ago
  Is it done based on hype from peoplenon here? I've not heard as many talking about Jones so I wouldn't have thought so.
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  1. Count of Monte Hristo
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Not sure if the articles are based on forum hype?
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2. King Nil Miss ✩
  10 years, 10 months ago
  Kagawa, Jones indeed and Young.
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3. SuperOsçarBaby
  10 years, 10 months ago
  This season I think United will struggle under Moyes, especially if Vidic is leaving.
  
  Valencia is on my watch list.
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  1. TorresMagic™
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Why?
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  10 years, 10 months ago
  How often is Kagawa actually going to start ? Rooney has not left despite the talk and he will probably be on the left. How much will that blunt his potential ?
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  1. Count of Monte Hristo
    10 years, 10 months ago
    I guess it all depends on Rooney's future. Kagawa is a quality player so hopefully he can have a strong season.
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      If Baines and Thiago go to Utd and Kagawa is played in the hole Van Persie would probably become priceless
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@Bryan
10 years, 10 months ago
Did up my Sky team fairly quickly, just had a glance at last years top scorers and then picked players mostly on value to points scored last year. Good indicator until the budget options show themselves, rather then risking them from the start and wasting transfers.

Don't mind sharing the formula and team now as it's still fairly quiet and plenty of time until kick off, but I can't see much changing.

Migs,

Rat, Taylor (Car), Luna,

Bale, Snodgrass, Cazorla, De Guzman, Gerrard,

RVP, Berbatov

Snodgrass, Berbatov and De Guzman are players who scored very well last year, but did not get overly large price increases for whatever reason in comparison to some.
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1. teddy.
  10 years, 10 months ago
  Looks about right. Berbatov tailed off a bit at the end of the season, might be a worry. De Guzman and Swansea as a whole might suffer with Europa fatigue.
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  1. @Bryan
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Usually a budget forward ala Lambert or Snodgrass last year comes to the fore, so Berbs will be the one to go. Saying that, even though he tailed off, he scored only a few points less then Hazard last year. Must be a sky sports darling.
    
    I agree about Swansea, but sure at 5.0m and 130ish points last season, he seems the best budget option currently imo.
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    1. In Like Flynn.
      10 years, 10 months ago
      Very useful looking team Brian.
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      1. @Bryan
        10 years, 10 months ago
        Cheers, I think Sky is more straightforward then FPL at the outset. The real challenge is managing the more limited transfers.
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SuperOsçarBaby
10 years, 10 months ago
Prediction price for van Ginkel in FPL?

8 goals, 8 assists last season.
Pass accuracy and tackle win% are higher than Ramires and Lampard.
I'll get him in Sky game.
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1. Gigging Order
  10 years, 10 months ago
  You need regular starters in the Sky game.
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  1. TorresMagic™
    10 years, 10 months ago
    +1
    
    Nailed on or 0 points, no subs.
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  2. SuperOsçarBaby
    10 years, 10 months ago
    mourinho like him, he'll start
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2. TorresMagic™
  10 years, 10 months ago
  Will he even play?
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3. Willis.
  10 years, 10 months ago
  You don't even live in the UK dude
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  1. SuperOsçarBaby
    10 years, 10 months ago
    I'm playing the game...
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Sheep
10 years, 10 months ago
Rio Testimonial match? I guess Vidic AND Ferdinand are leaving....
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1. applebonkers
  10 years, 10 months ago
  javier zanetti had his inter milan testimonial in 2005, he's still playing there
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applebonkers
10 years, 10 months ago
obscene:

in the 04/05 season terry got 25 clean sheets, 3 goals and 1 assist in 36 apps.
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1. TorresMagic™
  10 years, 10 months ago
  The good old days.
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Evil Greg
10 years, 10 months ago
Guaranteed ubers?

I see the community have recently been objectifying the perils of a cheap defence which fails due to players dropped/injury etc. As we cannot really factor likelihood of players getting injured, We can make a list of player likely to avoid the threat of rotation and still be 4.5 or less. (I'm including keepers in this).

A few snippets:

Shaw, Clyne, Boruc 4.5m
Rat 4.5m
Mark Hudson, Marshall 4.5m
McGregor, Hobbs 4.5m
Lowton 4.5m

Speculative punt: Ovideo 4.5m

Any feedback on the community's thoughts on likely starters we can rely on would be most welcome 🙂
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1. RoysCallerAnne
  10 years, 10 months ago
  I don't even know who most of those are 😳 time to put my pre-season hat on.
  Or my sun hat.
  
  Sun hat it is. Still 2 weeks to tinkerdom.
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2. Ryan
  10 years, 10 months ago
  What makes such a judgement difficult at this time and even in GW1 is that the transfer window doesn't close till around GW3. The difficulty arrises in choosing a GW1 side without knowing who the managers might bring in to replace the formerly 'nailed on' players. Promoted sides in particular could be susceptible. Same with teams whose defensive frailties were exposed last season. Unfortunately this captures a lot of uber options.
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  1. Oldman Unathletic
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Aye, even the best thought out plans can be unraveled because of this.
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  2. In Like Flynn.
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Good thinking Ryan, I hadn't really considered the transfer window.
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  3. Evil Greg
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Hudson and Hobbs are club captains, that will lend them some weight
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dorrian123
10 years, 10 months ago
Thoughts on darren Gibson for sky game only 4.8 ,
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1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
  10 years, 10 months ago
  When ever anyone mentions Darren Gibson I can't help thinking of this.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzw2CHEIAUY
  
  Oldie but a goodie
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saata
10 years, 10 months ago
Guys, do you know if FFS is planning to provide other payment methods besides PayPal util the start of the season?
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1. Gigging Order
  10 years, 10 months ago
  I think Mark is looking into it currently, you dont have to use Paypal though, it gives you an option just to pay by card once you go through to the Paypal screen.
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  1. saata
    10 years, 10 months ago
    Cheers!
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