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Resilient. Obstinate. You knew what to expect from Everton under David Moyes. The dictionary definition of “dogged”, the Toffees possessed a will-to-win and determination to battle for every ball that made them a tough nut to crack.

Last season, they lost fewer games in front of their own fans than any side in the Premier League and dropped a mere two points in the final eight games at Goodison. On the road, Everton conceded just 23 times – only City and Arsenal registered a more impressive tally in the goals against column.

With Moyes hot-footing it to United, Everton are bracing themselves for a brand new approach this season. The installation of Roberto Martinez to the Goodison hotseat has Fantasy managers eyeing up Everton’s assets in an entirely different light – the Spaniard’s expansive passing game, either in a 3-4-3 or 4-3-3, suggests out of position possibilities we’ve previously overlooked. There’s no doubt his football is pretty on the eye, yet Wigan slid into the Championship with the joint-worst defensive record in the Premier League last season – 73 times their backline was breached in 2012/13.

In our final Burning Question article, our contributors ponder whether we’re getting a little carried away by Martinez’ installation to the Goodison hotseat….

Paul says….
When you consider the lack of funds Martinez had available to him during his time at the DW, you have to applaud his achievements rather than focus on the negatives. Wigan were hammered by injuries to a number of key defenders over the final few months of last term – the absence of too many first-team regulars finally took their toll. Yet still, they finished the season with silverware; something Moyes never managed on a far bigger budget.

Our initial expectations of a shift to 3-4-3 may need reining in, though. The Toffees have started all but one of their pre-season games with a four-man backline – whether Martinez will gradually change the system when his players become accustomed to his approach only time will tell but for now, his penchant for a front three definitely looks good news for Kevin Mirallas. The Belgian’s classification as a midfielder across the Fantasy games hands us a strong out of position option for 2013/14 and makes up for Marouane Fellaini’s move to a more withdrawn role after the Belgian racked up the points in “the hole” in Moyes’ 4-4-1-1 last time.

Elsewhere, Leighton Baines will surely remain the same, reliable option on the left and should still hog most set-pieces, corners and spot-kicks, while Seamus Coleman looks a viable option at 5.0 even if Martinez fails to switch him to the right of midfield and mainly utilises him as a right-back.

In terms of pricing, last season’s top two performers, Baines and Fellaini, will set you back 16.0 in Fantasy Premier League; Mirallas and Coleman combined are 12.5. Essentially, this makes it easier to take a punt and back your gut if you’re caught up in the optimism brought on by Martinez’ arrival. Value-wise, at least, I’d expect the latter pair to prove a better investment the end of the campaign, with Mirallas stepping up under his new manager’s attacking approach and perhaps even outscoring Fellaini’s overall exploits from last year.

In Tommy We Trust Says…
No, quite the opposite when you evaluate the underlying statistics from the 3-4-3 system deployed during his time at Wigan. Defensively, player errors were consistently higher than the league average. This can be attributed to two main factors; the calibre of Wigan’s backline options wasn’t the greatest and the system itself can isolate a less-than-fluent passer of the ball at centre-half. Both these factors can be reduced, if not erased, with Everton already owning good ball players at the back who have the pace to recover from individual mistakes.

Going forward, the system is based on good possession, with intricate passing, creating space. Everton already have these players in abundance with the likes of Leon Osman, Darron Gibson and Steven Pienaar coming to mind. What Martinez was frustrated about last season was the lack of goals from midfield in his Wigan side – this may well be remedied by the likes of Marouane Fellaini ghosting into the box. When you look at the Everton squad, the player personnel is already well-suited to Martinez’s system with Pienaar taking the Shaun Maloney role and Kevin Mirallas the inverted winger, while Leighton Baines and Seamus Coleman are expected to be handed the wing-back roles. All could have a bumper points total come the end of the season.

Next you have to look at the character of Martinez himself. He is a winner, whether it was at Wigan or in his Swansea days. The man knows how to take the players at his disposal and get the best out of the skills available to him. This can only help Fantasy point totals. He is also someone who doesn’t like to rotate and, crucially, is one of the most reliable managers around when it comes to his starting XI.

The last thing to consider is the potential value on offer by some Everton players this season. If a 3-4-3 becomes the default formation, Mirallas, Baines and Coleman will all be out of position, while new signing Arouna Kone is nicely priced. Let’s not forget that value is fundamental to this game so even with an average campaign in Martinez’s first season, the price and position assigned to some Everton players make them assets worthy of investment.

Applebonkers says….
I think it’s harsh to judge Martinez off the back of Wigan’s relegation. You also have to take into account his full tenure and successful time at Swansea. The Everton defence is being written off in some quarters due to Wigan’s poor clean sheet record but, to put it bluntly, the Toffees have far stronger backline options than Wigan. Antolin Alcaraz, for example, improved the Latics’ defensive record dramatically when injury-free last season, yet he may struggle to break into the starting line-up unless they play a back-three.

Holding onto Marouane Fellaini will surely be vital. His move to a deeper position should strengthen the defensive quality of the midfield so, even if there is any merit to the theory that Martinez’s more cavalier cojones may lessen their resilience, the Belgian’s installation in the engine room should balance matters.

I tend to sub-consciously put a value on defences. For example, Man City and Man United I think of as 6.5 backlines, the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal are 6.0 defences and Everton, in the next bracket, are a 5.5 defence. Therefore Seamus Coleman at 5.0 appeals even without an attacking threat – when you then consider he rivalled Leighton Baines for assist threat in the second half of last season, then he’s definitely worth considering.

Green Windmill says…
As a longstanding Newcastle fan, I’ve witnessed more false dawns than a Vicar of Dibley lookalike contest, so I should be able to spot one by now. Everton, in my view, are in for a difficult season. There’s no doubt in my mind that under David Moyes they were consistently greater than the sum of their parts and Roberto Martinez is going to have his work cut out trying to maintain those standards. Despite this, it may not be all bad news for us Fantasy managers – many are anticipating a more gung-ho approach from Everton this year because as frail as they were defensively, Martinez’s Wigan adopted a much more expansive style when in possession.

It’s worth noting though that whilst Wigan’s defensive record was a horror show, Martinez’s time in charge of Swansea was a different story. The Swans were promoted to the Championship with the fourth meanest defence in the division and the following season were again in the top five performing teams in terms of goals against. There remains the possibility, therefore, that when presented with the right players, Martinez can organise a team which is harder to break down than some (including myself) might expect.

In short, whilst I don’t expect Everton to struggle, I also don’t expect to see them challenging for Europe as they did every year under Moyes. As a result I’ll be starting the season with a watching brief, hoping I haven’t seriously underestimated Roberto Martinez.

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  1. Denis Tueart on the wing
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    Benteke is damage limitation if you have Chelsea Defender / keeper

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
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      Expensive insurance.

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    2. Billy Gilmore
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      Or he and Villa could blank against Chelsea and he could score a hat-trick against Arsenal.

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  2. Gr3g
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    Guys, is Whittingham nailed on for Cardiff and on all set pieces?

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    1. big oak
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      last year he was

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  3. tommys
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2394870/Premier-League-fixtures-interactive-graphic-difficulty-levels.html

    Nice graph to help you plan linked above.

    Take the dgw out who would you choose?

    Soldado or Lukaku ?

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    1. Zero
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      Soldado

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  4. Raheem's perm
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    Got Dawson ahead of Toure but seems like that is the wrong move judging by all the teams on here! Spurs are a better team and have just as good fixtures to start. What are the reasons for having Kolo instead? I don't have Mig btw.

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    1. Fernando Torres
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      I am a spurs fan and can see Dawson starting the first few then Kaboul coming in

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      1. Raheem's perm
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        Thanks, will change it!

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    2. Mr Blue
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      A couple of days ago I had Migs and Toure, now I have none... not sure at all about their fixtures tbh.

      Tbh, not sure Dawson is a much better option... but out of the 2, I would probably go for Dawson

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        who is your goalie?

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  5. Trust John
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    Is Oscar worth a punt? A differential? Game time?

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  6. Make United Great Again
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    That's the way Zaha Zaha, I like it Zaha Zaha.

    😀

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    1. Rasping Drive
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      Knowing Lee, Knowing Euell, Zaha!

      (stolen from a couple of years back....)

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  7. Cantona90
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    Keep fiddling with my team and it has started looking more and more like the scout picks so its difficult to be original.

    What are people's highest scores with the RMT tool? I can get 303.2 with a front three of Lukaku Giroud Benteke, or 319.2 with RVP Anelka Rodriguez.

    Can't decide on the frontline with RVP. The problem I see is that if Anelka or Rodriquez don't perform I'm struggling for replacements.

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    1. big oak
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      scout picks are for this week
      not the season

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      1. Cantona90
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        Yes I'm aware. But they are also good shouts for the first 6 excluding GW3.

        Why do people reply with pointless answers that contribute nothing?

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  8. andres
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    Davis migs
    Kos ivan collins clyne chester

    Anyone with a similar lineup downgraded kos to a 5.0?
    Dont fancy toure though...

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    1. Zero
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      Similar to mine, I've downgraded Kos to O'Shae this week with the intention of doing Ivan>Kos for GW3

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  9. Denis Tueart on the wing
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    Any truth in the rumour Yaya has a bad back?

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  10. Yome
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    Can someone convince me Negredo is agood pick and that he will start against Newcastle...?

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    1. GoonerByron
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      Good pick and should start against Newcastle. Dzeko is more likely to start short term though imo..

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      1. Yome
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        City likely to play with 2 on top with Negredo and Dzeko, but then what about Aguero? Will he take minutes from Negredo or Dzeko?

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    2. Bastien
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      If I'm to pick a City striker, I'd go for Dzeko cause all of them have same chance of being picked and he's the cheapest.

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  11. Water_Pink
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    any more news on walcott? gone for oscar instead

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    1. BumblebeeTuna
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      I've done the same. Oscar>Walcott for GW2

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  12. GoonerByron
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    Do people honestly think Ivan will get more minutes than Cole? 😐

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    1. big oak
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      i dnt thats why i went for cole

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    2. MDK
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      Maybe the same given he can play right back and centre back - plus he's a greater goal threat

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    3. Heytch
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      they'll both get 180 so pick whoever you like more

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    4. BumblebeeTuna
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      Cole will get more minutes, I think Ivan will score more tho

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  13. Bastien
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    A. Benteke + Mirallas
    or
    B. Dzeko + Silva

    Cheers!

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  14. The Milkman
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    Paulinho or Snodgrass?

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    1. BumblebeeTuna
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      Snoddy

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  15. Q
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    Right guys this will complete my team..so I'm.leaving it all in your hands to avoid a mental breakdown right before the deadline 😀

    A. Dzeko

    B. Soldado

    First to 3 takes the place

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    1. The Milkman
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      Soldado fo sho

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    2. neopaint2005
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      Soldado

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    3. big oak
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      BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

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    4. EverydaySuperhero
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      Dzeko

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  16. @FuzzyWarbles
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    Probably already discussed before but if the FPL site crashes and they let everyone WC GW2, that is a distinct unfair advantage to those who loaded up with 6 DGW players, reap the rewards and then get a clean slate whilst more cautious managers who only have say 3 dont get those extra minutes/possible points.

    That make Fuzzy angry. Fuzzy not good when angry.

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    1. JoeJitzu +42
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      Sounds like fuzzy needs his belly rubbed...

      Good fuzzy, nice fuzzy......

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  17. neopaint2005
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    Is Terry nailed on for today at least?

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    1. Kevin Twine
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      Yeah, I reckon so.

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      1. neopaint2005
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        Thanks Nick 🙂

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        1. Christina.
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          My Thailand friend.

          I trust all is good.

          Good luck for the season.

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    2. Heytch
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      without a doubt. no international. captain of the side and home game and return of Jose.

      will lead the side out in both games

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  18. HellasLEAF
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    best 4.5 defender gents..

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    1. Fernando Torres
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      Turner probably

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      1. big oak
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        +1

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        1. HellasLEAF
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          over Garrido?

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    2. neopaint2005
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      I like Olsson as opp for Nor

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      1. Jimi
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        Luna

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    3. GK
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      Collins

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    4. vshmn
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      Olsson, Norwich might be a good pick. Or maybe Fulhams Amorebieta. just to name two. there are others..

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  19. EverydaySuperhero
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    Chester or Ward? Last Slot..

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    1. CaTriEm
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      Ward. Please trust me on this.

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      1. EverydaySuperhero
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        Im trusting you. If I dont finish in the top ten overall........ 'tis your fault 😛

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      2. Hantakun
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        Would you care to elaborate?

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    2. Hughes Your Daddy
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      Ward is a classy player for us, he is nailed on 100% for us so I would recommend him.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        Is Joniesta a good shout for 5th mid?

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        1. Hughes Your Daddy
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          Good question, I really think this is the season for Jonny to step out from Zaha's shadow the past few seasons and really shine for us. Im sure he will get plenty of game time but he is definitely not nailed on 100% to start. I see that changing as the season goes on but probably abit of a risk for 5th mid from gameweek 1.

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        2. EverydaySuperhero
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          Kim and Morrison are better shouts. He's not bad I'd say.. but those two are just standouts

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  20. CaTriEm
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    Westwood to start in goal I reckon.

    He 100% would've left if he hasn't been promised 1st team football.

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    1. Mr Blue
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      Maybe.. but would Mannone move to Sunderland to be 2nd keeper? :S

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      1. CaTriEm
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        More likely than Westwood agreeing to being 2nd pick.

        He's also got an international career to think of. With Forde having knee surgery and possibly not recovering in time, Westwood needs to be playing competitive football if he's going to start Ireland's 2 most important games since the Euros.

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    2. Christina.
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      Not worth the risk.

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      1. Mr Blue
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        This ^^
        They could rotate. Be benched for misstakes, just stay away

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    3. Heartbreak
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      Di Canio has been known to drop keepers during games!

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  21. Wilberto
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    Coleman or Arsenal def?

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  22. Mojo Rojo
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    Everyone seems to have opted for Kim, so am I silly for going with Wanyama as my fifth midfielder?

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    1. Lanley Staurel
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      Could be a shrewd move. He's a monster.

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
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      Dorrans

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  23. The Stock
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    This is the morning, business end, that the non RVP teams are having a quiet word with themselves.

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    1. Lord Flashheart
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      I'm more bothered of not finding place to ivan

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    2. Mr. Greedy
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      It'll be this evening, when he's banged in a hat trick that I'll be having a word with myself and trying not to WC. Bad times.

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    3. Lanley Staurel
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      And the RVP teams look at their average + team and wonder where the quality is....it's on a single point of failure. Too risky.

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      1. The Stock
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        You should see my team....

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    4. si
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      *non Tonev owners

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  24. BoltonsWanderer
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    Many people gambling on Negredo or are those wanting City coverage staying with the Dzek?

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    1. The Stock
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      Negredo will start, but that front line worries me so much rotation wise.

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    2. Christina.
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      I'm leaving that decision for gw 2.

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      1. big oak
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        me too
        new manager too many options mean im staying away atm

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    3. Mr. Greedy
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      Gone with Negredo. Good opening fixture so I didn't want to wait. New signing for the manager is sure to play.

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    4. Yome
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      I want city coverage so I am going for Negredo, Dzeko is more likely to be substituted IMO

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  25. Count of Monte Hristo
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    Sky FF

    Are you all playing the game?

    Any tips for keeping track of the (c) changes as they will be happening regularly?

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  26. bandit17
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    Went to bed pretty sure about my team with RVP, woke up completely unsure!!! Which team do you think looks better? All thoughts appreciated thank you.

    A:

    Mignolet, (Harper)

    Collins, Koscielny, M Turner, (Brayford, Chester)

    Hazard, Coutinho, Silva, Mirallas, (Morrison)

    RVP, Lukaku, J Rod

    0.5 in bank, Lukaku to Giroud in GW2

    or B:

    Mignolet, (Harper)

    Coleman, Koscielny, M Turner, (Clyne, Brayford)

    Hazard, Coutinho, Walcott, Mirallas, (Kim)

    Soldado, Lukaku, Dzeko

    1.5 in Bank to swap Lukaku in GW2, then maybe upgrade defence.

    Thoughts?

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  27. v12w12
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    Any Everton fans? Did Mirallas get most of his pre-season assists H or A?

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    1. big oak
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      what?

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      1. v12w12
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        Home or away sweetcheeks

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        1. EverydaySuperhero
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          Yeah Sweetcheeks

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      Pre season means little now.

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    3. Sheep Flavour
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      He had a great pre-season home and away.

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      1. v12w12
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        Cheers

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  28. OSGOOD WAS GOOD
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    RMT
    PLEASE

    Chec (Bourc
    Lescott Mert Turner,nor (Chester Turner, cardiff
    Hazerd Mirillas Wally Kim (Morrison
    Rvp Luka Lambert

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  29. J.D
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    HELP PLEASE ?

    pick 1

    ((A))

    cech
    evra coleman clyne
    hazard walcott rosicky miralas coutinho
    benteke soldado

    Subs : boruc anelka chester ward

    ((B))

    Foster
    turner coleman clyne
    hazard walcott tonev miralas coutinho
    rvp soldado

    subs : boruc chamak chester ward

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  30. HellasLEAF
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    start Snodgrass or Mirallas..

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