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Dugout Discussion – Saturday

There are five three o’clock kick-offs to follow Liverpool’s early Premeir League victory, with United’s trip to Swansea to follow at tea-time.

The team news from the Emirates finds Theo Walcott in the Arsenal lineup, although there is no start for Santi Cazorla who is rested to the bench following his recent international exploits. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain earns a start in midfield, along with Aaron Ramsey and Tomas Rosicky: Mikel Arteta is absent through injury. Up front, Olivier Giroud is given the opportunity to lead the attack with no place for Lukas Podolski. As for Villa, they have budget pick, Nathan Baker alongside Ron Vlaar in defence, as expected.

Chris Hughton is without Seb Bassong and playmaker Robert Snodgrass so hands a start to Elliot Bennett and Nathan Redmond on the flank, with Steven Whittaker in defence. They go with a 4-5-1 with Wes Hoolahan supporting new signing, Ricky van Wolfswinkel up top. Everton’s lineup is as expected – Ross Berkley is given the opportunity to fill in for Darron Gibson in midfield, while Nikica Jelavic’s pre-season form is enough to earn him the nod up front.

There are few surprises as the Hawthorns. The home side lineup with both Nicolas Anelka and Shane Long up front in what looks like a regular 4-4-2. Opponents Southampton have Luke Shaw fit to start at left-back, although Nathaniel Clyne is only able to make the bench: Calum Chambers starts at right-back. James Ward-Prowse is preferred ahead of Guly, Steven Davis and Gaston Ramirez in midfield.

Paolo Di Canio’s teamsheet includes a host of new signings as Ondrej Celustka, Valentin Roberge, Cabral, Emanuele Giaccherin and Jozy Altidore all earn debuts. Kieron Westwood gets the nod in goal over Vito Mannone. The Fulham lineup includes a debut for Derek Boateng and a surprise start or Adel Taarabt: Bryan Ruiz only makes the bench.

The West Ham back four lines up with both Guy Demel and James Collins earning starts as Razvan Rat and James Tomkins are kept on the bench. The midfield sees Mo Diame earn a start along with Joe Cole, while Modibo Maiga leads the line in the absence of the injured Andy Carroll. There are few surprises in the Cardiff lineup, with Matt Connolly preferred to John Brayford at right-back and Ben Turner alongside new signing, Steven Caulker.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to take you through the afternoon matches into this evenings clash at the Liberty.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Jimmers
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Sometimes I don't understand managers. Bony didn't start because he was suffering from jet lag. Did it improve during the 45 minutes he sat on the bench?

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He probably though the alternative gameplan would be better but realised that plan B was naff!

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  2. Ouch 8 point hit
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Swansea look pretty tidy. 2 - 0 is harsh.

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    1. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Pretty unfortunate to be 2-0 down they look very decent

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  3. thetinkerman
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    So at what point in the game does RVP change from being great value for scoring a goal and being reliable to being poor value for only scoring one, despite costing 14m?

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    1. Clintymints
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I don't even know what to make of Persie at this point in time

      It's a tricky one :\

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    2. Ouch 8 point hit
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Can't really say until 3 or 4 GWs in can you cos you get him for the consistency innit?

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    3. Mílanista
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      The point that you decide to not own him.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Probably!

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  4. Early bandwagons
    Clintymints
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Is there going to be a massive trannyfest for Migs?

    He's not gonna save a peno every week and toure is better value at .5 less I believe!

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    1. Jimmers
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Liverpool might still buy a CB

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      1. blveprints
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        if and when they do (fan) i will certainly be dumping Toure for value elsewhere i'm sure

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    2. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Transfers in (from FPL):

      Coleman 3321
      Barkley 2983
      Benteke 2532
      Whittaker 2521 😆
      Migs 2479
      Studge 2003

      It's already started!

      I don't see Barkley, Benteke and Whittaker being good transfers at this point but Coleman, Migs and Studge are the bandwagons.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Toure at 1420 by the way.

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      2. Woy of the Wovers
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Inclined to agree. But the only one i can buy is Mig and that would close out any option of a second Pool attacker.

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      3. Heytch
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Benteke IN... 😆

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      4. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        It's also worth pointing out that Migs is ahead of Benteke for net transfers in, since many are selling Benteke, presumably because he was a 1 week punt.

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      5. Exilizer
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        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Wish I could fit Coleman in, but I have Jagielka and Ivanovic. So no can do...

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      6. Flint Edgewood
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Whittaker and Barkley are cheap though..do you think they'll start games?

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    3. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Toure is an attacking threat too.

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      1. Ted Maul
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Yep hit the crossbar and nearly scored from a knock down as well. Looks a real threat from set pieces.

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    4. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I guess there will have to be a lot more transfer activity for rises to happen, but we still have 7-8 hours

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    5. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      im sticking with cech

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    6. DietCoke
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No point in freaking out over Migs.

      I have Boruc, and he got the job done and will get the job done for the next few GWs.

      I'm not even sure about Toure. I got cold feet at the last second and switched him out for Reid. Glad I did.

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    7. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think we also have to add RVP to this list, although I wonder how much will actually get him since his price makes it so difficult and almost half of the teams in FPL already own him!

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        And Welbeck!

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        1. blveprints
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          if we can see some consistent time and form i'm on the Welbeck differential train. all aboard.

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  5. ZiZou10
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    What's all the love for Mirralas about??

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      its 1 game

      ffs

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      1. ZiZou10
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        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Well aware of that- but even before the kick-off everyone was rating him. I spent my money on Wilshire and after one game that's not looking superb. Why Miralas- is he any good?

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        1. Desertbug
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Yes. Totally hamstrung last year (literally), but healthy and blazing this year. Didn't really have a position to play last year but seems set on the side of a front three, so is OOP. I like him a lot.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      People said "what's all the love for Coleman"

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    3. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      We've all been jilted by him. He made all those promises but turned out to be like all the others.

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    4. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      It was between him and Siggy for me. Just felt he was more secure.

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  6. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    F**k I've deleted my mini league in error!!! Any way to bring it back?????

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Haha. Doubt it!

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Show a little sympathy.

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    2. Philman
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Now that's a knee jurk!

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  7. Bartowski
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    That was dire...

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  8. svgcr
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Did anyone get a chance to watch the liverpool game? Was coutinho any threat?

    Thanks!

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    1. Yossi
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yep, huge threat. He created loads of chances, had some goal chances too but his finishing wasnt fantastic.

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    2. Saint Domingo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yes,he played very well tbf,nearly scored on a couple of occassions and looked a right handful all game

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    3. ...---...
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. Could have had about 6 assists if his team mates had donr their stuff.

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    4. Jimmers
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Impressive

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    5. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Orchestrator. Hard to say whether it will result in lots of points. Maybe a bit like Silva

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    6. the axolotl
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      he looked great, is going to be an assist machine.

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    7. svgcr
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Cheers gents

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  9. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Reckon Rooney will come on soon...

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      here we go, on for Giggs.

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  10. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Phew.....

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Bad miss.

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  11. Bod
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Who to ship lukaku out for?

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Giroud 😀

      Aspas maybe?

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Lambert, Jelavic Welbeck ?

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    3. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Lambert

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    4. Bod
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Already have lambert, was thinking cisse...

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    5. Lord Flashheart
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Lambert

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    6. Ted Maul
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Man City striker, see who starts on Monday night

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  12. Podge
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Rooney coming on by the look of things

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  13. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    rooney imminent

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  14. WWW.
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    '23rd December 2012: RVP nearly killed at The Liberty City Stadium.
    17th August 2013: RVP returns to The Liberty City Stadium.
    Amazing story.'
    @BBCSporf

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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  15. Richie15
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    VVVVVVAAAAAAAANNNNN PPPPPPPEEERRRRSSSSSIIIIIEEEEEEE YYYYYESSSS

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      ?? bit late don't you think?

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      1. Mílanista
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Fake goal shout

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      2. ...---...
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Richie's watching the game on SKY+ 🙂

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    2. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      off target 🙂

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    3. Richie15
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      REPLY FAIL

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    4. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think you've got the DT's really bad.

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    5. Hibbo
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Let him celebrate its a fact Anelka blanked for him earlier.

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  16. Hibbo
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Ashley Williams is like a cart horse but somehow has the rep of a top defender lmfao

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    1. Ted Maul
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Should do well at Arsenal then.

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  17. ehabitoo
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    No bap champ?

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No need its all on the site live now

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    2. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No captain hindsight ?

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      1. Lord Flashheart
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Forca

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  18. Elniñorules
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Time to paint the Pig's lipstick people!!!!!

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  19. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    still looks unhappy

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  20. jdoyle
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Rooney on for Giggs

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    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      That's my grav.

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  21. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Roooneyyy the Chelsea boy

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  22. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    i forgot how much fun it was watching a game as a non owner of Rvp

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    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      ?

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    2. SW6
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      That sinking feeling as he gets the ball in the box is one I should get used to I guess

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      1. Mílanista
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Horrible isn't it?

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        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I'm surprisingly okay with it. 14 mill to me means at least 2 goals every game to be good value.

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          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Ah actually I'll say what, less than that. Goal a game? And maybe an assist every second game? I just can't see the value yet.

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            1. Mílanista
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              When he's already on a goal and looks like adding a second it doesn't make for pleasant viewing.

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      You're welcome to join me http://i.imgur.com/9vGkndo.jpg

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  23. Sulk
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    10 years, 9 months ago

    I bet bonys got a weapon down there

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      bony smashhh

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  24. rohan
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Am I looking too much into it or does Rooney really look unhappy?

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think he'd prefer to be needed than a sub with the game essentially over

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    2. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Shrek wasn't happy till he married Fiona !

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    3. Ted Maul
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He's overweight and losing his hair, what do you expect?

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  25. Bartowski
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I do hope Hazard (c) doesn't keep up this theme of 2 points all my other midfielders seem to have decided upon....

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    1. Bod
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Me too...

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    2. svgcr
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Welbeck looking like an option. Kept in the field when rooney came in and some little japanese is nowhere to be seen.

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  26. Tiki-Taka
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    It is absolute agony watching RVP as a non-owner

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    1. Baby Cuties
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      yeah, this non-RVP for a strong midfield sacrifice isnt going great so far is it?!

      at least we dont have to feel so alone on this site

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  27. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Whoop.. 60 mins for Michu.. 😀

    *moves on to 12pts

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    1. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      10 here.

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    2. heeljames
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      12 here to.......for Migs 😛

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        *too
        *15

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    3. Mílanista
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ouch, if it wasn't for Mignolet's heroics I'd be on about the same. Soldado brace tomorrow to pick things up.

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    4. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      That bad WR ?

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    5. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Foster - Boroc fail. Me too mate. Do you think the rotation is worth sticking with? (WBA were awful by all accounts)

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        No choice unless wc

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  28. Sulk
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    What will rooneys celebration be like if he scores? I guess we'll never know

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Muted I reckon

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    2. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He'll probably run at Moyes and dropkick him.

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    3. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I really hope he stays and starts to play to the best of his ability

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  29. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Best replacement for Koscielny, West Ham player?

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    1. Dial Square
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Toure?

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      1. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Already have Mignolet, need to spread the cash on different teams.

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    2. Lord Flashheart
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Coleman
      Debuchy
      Shaw

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    3. Baby Cuties
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      ooh, unlucky. i nearly put him in this morning.

      yeah, collins is a good bet.

      id also advise watching tottenham tomorrow and maybe opting for Dawson or someone like that if they look solid. going by last year's defence stats, tottenham shouldve had like double what they actually got

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  30. Johnny128
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Hey guys, who should I replace Terry with after the double? Shaw? (other defenders are Toure, Coleman, Turner (Nor), Chester – Migs in net. Tips/advice appreciated.

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    1. ZiZou10
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Keep Terry- if he gets a full season he'll score 140+ points. It's an IF tho

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    2. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      IMO yes Shaw.

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    3. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Collins, good fixtures and cheeeeeaaappp

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