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18 August 2013 4717 comments
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Sunday’s two matches get underway with a Selhurst Park encounter that finds Crystal Palace host Andre Villas-Boas’ Spurs. Two hours later, Chelsea start their double Gameweek with a home clash with Hull City as Fantasy mangers brace themselves for an avalanche of points.

The team news from Palace finds Ian Holloway keep the faith with much of the side that won promotion from the Championship. Holloway keeps the new boys on the bench, with Marouane Chamakh and Jose Campana in reserve while the likes of Aaron Wilbraham and Scott Dobbie are handed starts. New signing, Dwight Gayle, does get his Premier League debut up front, however.

Visitors Spurs are without Gareth Bale but can call on the services of Jan Vertonghen who is fit to line up alongside Michael Dawson in defence. Danny Rose gets the nod at left-back as expected. In midfield, Gylfi Sigurdsson looks to be starting in the Bale role, with Nacer Chadli given a debut on the left-flank. All eyes will be up front, however, as Roberto Soldado makes his first start following his £26 million move from Valencia.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will be available for those who fancy live chat during this match and into the tea-time clash at Stamford Bridge.

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  1. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Quick question lads.

    By GW 4, will Nastasic be back, fit and a regular for Citeh?

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    1. Fin
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      be back nest week

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      lescott could be a regular if he plays till then

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  2. RD84
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Not likely to be a fantasy prospect, but Capoue was sensational today. Will prove to be a magnificent signing.

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  3. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    So generally I will be downgrading Ivanovic to Coleman / Debuchy and I will have 10M to replace Lukaku.

    Some replacements cross my mind, but I have doubts.

    Lambert can see some competition from Osvaldo coming to The Saints. Even if they start both, some points will be taken from him by the new guy.
    Negredo - rotation, City have SO many attacking players!
    Bony didn't make starting XI yesterday and the fixtures are quite bad.

    Anyone else should I take into consideration? Or maybe wait one more week and risk playing Lukaku vs United?

    My other strikers are Soldado & Sturridge now.

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    1. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Wait til Wednesday nights match first.

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    2. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Its gotta be tekkers

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        He has blank in GW, surely I am not gonna get him now

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    3. fdotman
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Giroud? I have Soldado and Giroud atm, am deciding whether to do Ivan -> Santon/Debuchy and Lukaku -> Sturridge or Ivan -> Zab and Lukaku -> Bony

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    4. Mickeylicious
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Bony was rested for midweek internationals. Lambert is class but some points could go the other way. Tekkers, giroud come to mind

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  4. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I got 112 points pre-bonus, with 4 still to play.

    Is that any good?

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    1. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      so so only, sorry :/

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    2. F is for
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      No, it is awful... 😉

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    3. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      thats amazing ronh

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    4. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      You're in 67 Ronald 😮

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      1. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I was just messing.

        Making fun of the people that know they have a good score & come on here to boast in that manner 🙂

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    5. Exilizer
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Team link?

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  5. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    not asking just telling already pulled the trigger on Kos-> Coleman .. done

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  6. Alton E.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Jose happy with 1st half. "In the 2nd half we had no physical energy." Says '3 boys' behind Torres 'disappeared'. Tired from internationals.

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Doesn't sound too good for Hazard then...

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  7. CoolBeans
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    So good to have the footy back on telly! Woeful start to the Fantasy Season though.
    What's the deal with Ross Barkley? Can we expect him to get regular starts?

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    1. sdmdsdBazman
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Great prospect but won't get regular starts.

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      1. CoolBeans
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers. Was there any particular reason he got the start yesterday?

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        1. sdmdsdBazman
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Gibson, who was supposed to play, got a knee injury and so Martinez handed the start to Martinez 🙂

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          1. sdmdsdBazman
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            LOL oops, Barkley (it's late over here.)

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          2. CoolBeans
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Ok cool. Cheers for the info 🙂

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I took a gamble and included him in my team. I think he WILL get starts if Fellaini goes. It's a gamble though if you are looking for a sure fire starter

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  8. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Coutinho Walcott hazard (c) silva 37m for 11 points Lmao.

    Need some big returns on Monday and Wednesday please please please...

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    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Silva hasn't even played. Hazard has another game. Relax people

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    2. Lawrø
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Silva hasn't played yet...

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  9. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    GW2 Fresh Start.

    Picking a new team for 100m is a piece of cake now.

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  10. Godfather Bandit 42
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    This could get Mess-ier #Barca

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    1. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yep 5-0

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      cheesy

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  11. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    As much as i rate hazard 2 things worry me on owning him.

    1. So many midfield options for jose. and all expensive
    2. jose tends to specialise in low scoring wins.

    im thinking keep cech and he is enough long term.

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    1. I am not a smart guy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Just my opinion only: I think Mourinho told his team to practice defense in the 2nd half. No worry.

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        ok thanks for the info

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  12. Eboue
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    If osvaldo arrives what is likely to be the saints set up? 4231?
    Wanyama schneiderlin
    ?lambert?
    Osvaldo

    Rodriguez somewhere? Thoughts?

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  13. PanTanti
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    any price rises tonight?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      no b

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  14. Kuyt Dirkula +42
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    The new bonus points system is utter crap and there will be an outcry before gw3 to go back to last years system.

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      It's a farce. Too many players sharing points for little good reason. Bring back the man in the stands or, better still, base it on WhoScored ratings.

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Sharing is due to equal points. Low scoring will see that occur more than the old system.

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I think it's good.

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      1. ManofKent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        +1 - it reflects overall performance far better than the old one which largely went to scorers

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Sturridge perfect example.

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          1. Red5
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Johnson / Aspas absolutely did not have more of an impact on that game than Sturridge did. Maybe he didn't deserve all 3 because of the penalty drama, but to score the winning (and only, and fantastic) goal in the match and come away with nothing is ridiculous.

            Do you honestly think Chesny should be coming out of the Villa match with bonus points? He gave away a penalty, was incredibly lucky not to be sent off and then got a stack of points for not really saving the penalty he had given away.

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      2. Kuyt Dirkula +42
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Tell me why you think any of the new system is good compared to using the ESP system or you're just trolling...

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          May as well make goals worth an extra point or 2 with the old system. We knew baps would change. Plenty went Mert over Kosc due to the results from last season.

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          1. Red5
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Kosc scored new bps at a better rate than Mert last season.

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    3. Red5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      They'll have to stick with it now, but it is terrible. It in no way reasonably reflects how well people played and might as well just be drawn out of a hat.

      Maybe time to go back to man in the stand next year.

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    4. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      More bonus mean more points. More defenders getting bonus and keepers getting recognition.

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      1. Egg noodle
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Goalkeepers can only dream of bonuses unless they save a penalty

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    5. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah, I think it should just be a person who assigns them based on review of performance really.. Stats aren't everything.

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  15. Alton E.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    That Barca game is just..

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      yawnfest

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  16. Exilizer
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    So:
    Lukaku->Lambert/Soldado?

    Not sure who to go with first, will bring in the other after GW3 to replace Dzeko to have:
    Lambert/Soldado/Sturridge GW onwards
    Thanks

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Soldado

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Soldado

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  17. Mojo Rojo
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Hazard was very ordinary today, very disappointing. Thought he would have tore Hull's defence to shreds. Anyway, I'm sure it was just a bad day at the office for the lad.

    In other news... Lukaku > Bony

    Do it now or wait?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      wait for the other game obvs

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Thinking similar myself, Bony looks good for goals to me. Better than Soldado I reckon. But wait till after midweek, Lukaku could start.

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    3. Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      You'd feel a little stupid if:

      Lukaku scores 1-2 Wednesday eveing, scores at Old Trafford and suddenly Mourinhio is obliged to select him.

      Wait it out.

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    4. flipperallstars
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Wait

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  18. SUPERMAN
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Is the Chelsea villa game on tv in the uk on Wednesday?

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      no.

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      1. SUPERMAN
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        That's a shame. Cheers

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  19. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45639-Pablo-Osvaldo/page42#.UhEHxdJP2UM

    looks like osvaldo has signed for southampton. gonna be declared tmrw.. damn.. just when lambert turned my head towards him.. wait and see now

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      That's what makes this game so challenging. More likely to affect Rod though?

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        would think so.. gonna wait till friday and browse through forums b4 i make a decision.. either way it'll affect lamberts points imo

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    2. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      yeah, I feel you :/

      It was gonna be Lukaku --> Lambo, but now I am not so sure

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        lukaku to a hopefully 7 million osvaldo.. they may not take a chance and price him @ 8

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    3. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      will he take a while to settle like gaston though

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    4. synyster626
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I think this will affect J-Rod if anything. Lambert should hold his spot

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    5. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      There were reports of Southampton getting him before the deadline. Its a shame as Lambert still has a lot to offer. He may even play alongside Osvaldo. But his points will surely be diminished.

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  20. Lewandowski in the houski
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Would really appreciate some advice on this, would you rather do:

    Ivanovic > Coleman/other 5m

    or

    Lukaku > ? (I already have lambert)

    Is it ludicrous to consider both? Off to a festival from wednesday so need to make some decisions quckly.

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  21. reytheist
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I've had a disastrous opening week. I'm so tempted to wildcard and start over, but I don't want to do it prior to the transfer window closing. Must. Be. Strong.

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      pray for reytheist

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      1. reytheist
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        i believe in myself... but i'm having a crisis of faith!

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    2. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Can you beat my 31? I'm massively tempted too!

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    3. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      you do have luke moore in your team. enough said.

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  22. Alton E.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Zenit to offer €40M for Willian.. Would like to see him in PL.

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Zenit have all that cash and that's about it.

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    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      At Anfield.

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  23. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Lol Liga

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  24. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Lukaku -> Who? Other strikers are Giroud and Dzeko.

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    1. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Daniel S.

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Benteke, Sturridge

      Dzeko > Lambert long term

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    3. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      soldado.

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    4. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Tomorrow you will be saying Dzeko -> Who?

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  25. Large Hardon Colluder
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Even though I don't have RVP, all three of my strikers scored, so i'm not too disappointed.
    🙂

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  26. Godfather Bandit 42
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    6-0 -#BarcaDemolition

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  27. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Seems like we've had a lot of penalties

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    1. DietCoke
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Guess everybody forgot how to play football.

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    2. sdmdsdBazman
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      think the arsenal defense forgot how to play football...

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  28. The Mousa is Loosa
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    How did Walcott play yesterday? Thinking of doing Wally>Coutinho or Michu

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    1. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      patience people, patience

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    2. sdmdsdBazman
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Be patient, Wally will pick up (I have Cazorla and I'm even more confident.)

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  29. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Think I will hold on to Terry for the blank, Jose's Chelsea always were solid at the back...

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    1. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Good call with Williams by the way. When he eventually did come on he looked terrific

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        He's a cracking little player.

        Only 19. Hopefully he gets more game time.

        They don't call him Joniesta for nowt 😉

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    2. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I want hold ivanovic

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    3. Flicka
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'm think the same. Terry looked quite comfortable out there today.

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    4. sdmdsdBazman
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      What defenders are you guys subbing on if you're holding onto a CHE defender?

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      1. sdmdsdBazman
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        *for the blank

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