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5 October 2013 4198 comments
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The Gameweek continues with four three o’clock kick-offs to follow on from City’s victory at the Etihad, before Sunderland host Man United later this evening.

Fantasy managers will be firmly focused on Liverpool’s meeting with Crystal Palace, with many backing either Luis Suarez or Daniel Sturridge with the armband, anticipating goals and a heavy defeat for the visitors.

We start the team news round-up at Anfield, then, to find that Brendan Rodgers makes just one change to the lineup that won at Sunderland. Raheem Sterling is drafted in on the right-flank with Jordan Henderson shifting to a central midfield role to replace the suspended Lucas. The formation is not yet clear – having played 3-4-1-2 at the Stadium of Light, that could be the case again, although Rodgers could also revert to a regular four-man defence with Victor Moses moving to the left flank and Jose Enrique returning to a full-back role.

Once again, Ian Holloway rings the changes for opponents Palace. Damien Delaney is fit to return, while Stuart O’Keefe, Jason Puncheon and Cameron Jerome all earn starts. Kagisho Dikgacoi, Barry Bannan, Danny Gabidon and Dwight Gayle make way.

Martin Jol makes a string of changes to his lineup to face Stoke at the Cottage. In come Philippe Senderos, Georgios Karagounis, Damien Duff and Bryan Ruiz as the injured Scott Parker misses out, along with Alex Kacaniklic, Kieran Richardson and Darren Bent. Mark Hughes also makes changes for the visitors as Stephen Ireland and Matt Etherington earn starts in place of Charlie Adam and Kenwyne Jones. That would indicate that Marko Arnautovic will lead the attack for the Potters.

Cardiff are unchanged for the visit of Newcastle, as Malky Mackay keeps faith with the starting XI that won three points at Fulham, leaving match winner Jordon Mutch benched. As expected, the Magpies tweak their starting lineup following Monday night’s disappointing first half at Goodison. Alan Pardew makes the decision that Hatem Ben Arfa owners were dreading: the Frenchman gets dropped to the bench as his compatriot Yohan Cabaye earns a start, along with Papiss Cisse with Vurnon Anita out of the matchday squad. Not surprisingly, Mike Williamson starts in central defence with Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa dropping out.

Finally, at the KC stadium, the Tigers make just one change with Stephen Quinn benefiting from Robbie Brady’s absence following an hernia operation. Opponents Villa make two alterations – Ashley Westwood and Gabby Agbonlahor return to the lineup following injury as Yacouba Sylla and Nathan Baker drop out. That suggests a change of shape with Paul Lambert perhaps converting his 3-5-2 to a more standard 4-3-3.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to capture you real-time reactions during the afternoon’s matches and throughout United’s tea-time visit to Sunderland.

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  1. Gargamel
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Suarez just lost all his bonus points.

    Would that warrant a LOL@SUAREZ OWNERS? I think it would.

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    1. Chris_White
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      You bet 😉

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    2. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      How could it have gone away down like that ??

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    3. Tommytour
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      🙂

      Rival did Sturridge > Suarez

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    4. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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      Why?

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    5. Granville
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      • 16 Years
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      He must have dropped 6BPS since he was on 11 and got the winning goal. Christ how did that happen.

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        At a loss really, how did he get to 11 BPS in the first place?

        Are these the finalized BPS?

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      2. Gargamel
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        Granville

        Is the winning goal the first goal scored by the winning team?

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        1. Granville
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          No, it's the 1st goal that breaks the deadlock

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          1. Gargamel
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            I see!

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    6. Elniñorules
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      😀

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  2. PGR
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    My defense hasn't given me a clean sheet or attacking points in 3 weeks. That better change right now with Evra.

    Liverpool
    Man.City Arsenal Man United

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    1. Tommytour
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      He needs to make up for last weeks no show

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  3. JayBomb
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    Go away Niall Quinn. The guy behind him has no chance of seeing this match. Tosser

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  4. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    IF those BPs are accurate. that would be 2 games out of 2 in which Sturridge has outscored Suarez

    #justsaying

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    1. Scottys Army
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      thats why i have both , covers both bases

      just saying

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  5. The Machine
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    Can Suarez fecking stop being Offside all the time??

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      It's his teeth. Ozil has the same issues with his eyes

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        hehe

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      2. Gr3g
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        lol

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  6. SamH123
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    how can Suarez have less bps than say Henderson who didn't appear to do anything

    Did he have quite a few shots off target?

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    1. Noisy Neighbour
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      Does offside count for negative BPS. He had quite a few today.

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  7. SouthCoastSaint
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    Suarez BPS just nose dived...

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    1. beric
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      not getting anything now, gutted

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  8. The Machine
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    And those 6 points for Sturridge captainers= My Lukaku goal 🙁

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    1. Tommytour
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      Who have you captained Nate?

      Luis?

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  9. mutatedllama
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    I hate this game sometimes. My rival is getting 9 points from Sakho and 18 from Sturridge while I get 2 from Migs.

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  10. Gravless wonder
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    why did suarez lose the baps?

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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      Because FPL towers likes influencing the game.

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    2. Noisy Neighbour
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      All the offside calls had to play a part.

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  11. FORCA INTER
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    yaaaay no BPS for Suarez 😆

    now i officialy can't wait Giroud C tomorrow

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      Laughing at your main man? Bad Forca :p

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      1. FORCA INTER
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        but i dont own him , while i have sturridge

        hopefully donkey and soldado will outscore him

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        1. Lateriser 12
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          • 13 Years
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          I hope Donkey does. I think Souldaddy will.

          POINTS POINTS POINTS

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          1. crystalpalaceRus
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            biggest arse licker.

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  12. Gaz Downright
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    Remy 20bps
    Rest of Newcastle 33bps

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      😆

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    2. FPL Touches
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      wow

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  13. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    This Bp system is a joke. I hate this season seriously ridiculous.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      Grow up.

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    2. Nomar
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      • 16 Years
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      Said that about the bonus system after GW1.

      Irrespective of whether you got loads of baps or none at all the way they are distributed is ludicrous.

      However, back in the old days, loads of people on here whinged to FPL that they didn't like the old bonus points system of having a man at the game awarding points based on what he saw in real life.

      Every subsequent 'fix' of the system has been worse.

      Just proves the saying "sometimes, be careful what you wish for..."

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        Maybe there's a point there. A lot of people are nostalgic for man in the stand.

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  14. bangers and M*A*S*H
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    Best defender to get for Agger?

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    1. theloveburglar
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      terry

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  15. 1-1 at Newcastle
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    So glad I've got Sturridge. So much cheaper 🙂

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    1. Rafabio
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      We'll see if you're saying that in a few weeks.

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  16. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    Looks like both Guzan and McGregor will get 1 BP

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    1. Chris_White
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      2 baps each, no?

      Only Clark higher

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        Vlaar as well

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  17. Captain Shirokov
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    Wilson 58 minutes?

    Someone care to explain?

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    1. The Machine
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      Plays as a mid, mids often get subbed

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      tactical
      you know it will happen at sometime.
      Glad I didnt get him

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    3. jas5sk - Youtube channel
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      Mark Hughes is a &@%

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    4. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      Played 58 minutes.
      Then went off

      You're welcome

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  18. Spencer
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    • 14 Years
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    Who to get rid of first (for Paulinho)?

    A. Kim
    B. Ben Arfa

    Boruc - McGregor
    Coleman - Walker - Turner - Koscielny - Shaw
    Ben Arfa - Kim - Michu - Ramsey - Mirallas
    Giroud - Soldado - Sturridge

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    1. FISSH
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      ben arfa. hes a massive headache.

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  19. The Machine
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    Suarez's fouls+ 2123123 offsides were not counted during the game

    They always do this at the end

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    1. ★FC Borecelona★
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      You get negative BPS for offsides?

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      1. The Machine
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        Yes, for every 3 offsides i think

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          5 BPS disappeared though. He wasn't offside 15 times lol.

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          1. The Machine
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            Fouls too

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            1. isacki: full casual
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              Would be good to see his stats for the game.

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              1. isacki: full casual
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                See below

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        2. ★FC Borecelona★
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          Ouch

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  20. OPTA FPL
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    you get -BPS if you're caught offside

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  21. Vote Joke
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    What defense rotates best with Southampton?

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    1. theloveburglar
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      west ham

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      wba, car, sto maybe

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    3. Champy
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      West Ham

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  22. JayBomb
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    Barfa out Ramsey in ! If ye can't beat them join them.

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  23. crystalpalaceRus
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    So suarez is now getting no baps, disgusting

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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      Its a joke system.

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      1. FISSH
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        not a joke for Sturridge owners 😉

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    2. Whiskerz
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      Getting marked down for being offside seems reasonable to me.

      It's ok to be upset your player didn't get bonus points, but don't blame a part of the system that is working how most people would imagine it should.

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  24. Chris_White
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    My ML rival has Nastasic, Hangeland and Wilson as his back 3

    OUCH!

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  25. Jackson123
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    Rooney is my differential for my mini-league. Come on Wazza!!

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  26. Declan
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    Riether 3 Baps, 9pts first sub. 🙁

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  27. The3rdTurd
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    Suarez bps, as far as I can work them out:

    2 - Playing time
    8 - Goal
    1 - Pass completion
    1 - Key passes
    1 - Crosses
    -1 - Offsides
    -1 - fouls conceded

    Total - 11 bps

    I can't see how he's ending up on 7.

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      yc?

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      1. The3rdTurd
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        Nope, he wasn't booked.

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    2. Scottys Army
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      agree

      its a farce

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    3. isacki: full casual
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      And it was on 11 BPS in the first place too, confirming the calcs.

      Are these the finalized post-match BPS?

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    4. Granville
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      Winning goal also so 12 BPS.

      It might well be wrong.

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  28. Your Mum's Athletic
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    If Man United win then my HUGE accumulator comes in, come on the RED devils!

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    1. FISSH
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      how much will ya win? UTD will surely win..

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
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        not gonna jinx it but a hefty amount, i'm a manc fan so i might of already jinxed it enough lol

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        1. FISSH
          • 12 Years
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          Good luck mate. I had

          Hannover to win
          QPR to win
          Orient to win
          Basel to win

          Hannover drew last night 🙁

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  29. Wilshere Knowledge
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    Royally screwed by that Suarez decision...

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  30. Blue Moon Rising
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    Right lets go back to giving 3-2-1 to the best players on the pitch.

    Plan and simple.

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