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5 October 2013 4198 comments
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The Gameweek continues with four three o’clock kick-offs to follow on from City’s victory at the Etihad, before Sunderland host Man United later this evening.

Fantasy managers will be firmly focused on Liverpool’s meeting with Crystal Palace, with many backing either Luis Suarez or Daniel Sturridge with the armband, anticipating goals and a heavy defeat for the visitors.

We start the team news round-up at Anfield, then, to find that Brendan Rodgers makes just one change to the lineup that won at Sunderland. Raheem Sterling is drafted in on the right-flank with Jordan Henderson shifting to a central midfield role to replace the suspended Lucas. The formation is not yet clear – having played 3-4-1-2 at the Stadium of Light, that could be the case again, although Rodgers could also revert to a regular four-man defence with Victor Moses moving to the left flank and Jose Enrique returning to a full-back role.

Once again, Ian Holloway rings the changes for opponents Palace. Damien Delaney is fit to return, while Stuart O’Keefe, Jason Puncheon and Cameron Jerome all earn starts. Kagisho Dikgacoi, Barry Bannan, Danny Gabidon and Dwight Gayle make way.

Martin Jol makes a string of changes to his lineup to face Stoke at the Cottage. In come Philippe Senderos, Georgios Karagounis, Damien Duff and Bryan Ruiz as the injured Scott Parker misses out, along with Alex Kacaniklic, Kieran Richardson and Darren Bent. Mark Hughes also makes changes for the visitors as Stephen Ireland and Matt Etherington earn starts in place of Charlie Adam and Kenwyne Jones. That would indicate that Marko Arnautovic will lead the attack for the Potters.

Cardiff are unchanged for the visit of Newcastle, as Malky Mackay keeps faith with the starting XI that won three points at Fulham, leaving match winner Jordon Mutch benched. As expected, the Magpies tweak their starting lineup following Monday night’s disappointing first half at Goodison. Alan Pardew makes the decision that Hatem Ben Arfa owners were dreading: the Frenchman gets dropped to the bench as his compatriot Yohan Cabaye earns a start, along with Papiss Cisse with Vurnon Anita out of the matchday squad. Not surprisingly, Mike Williamson starts in central defence with Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa dropping out.

Finally, at the KC stadium, the Tigers make just one change with Stephen Quinn benefiting from Robbie Brady’s absence following an hernia operation. Opponents Villa make two alterations – Ashley Westwood and Gabby Agbonlahor return to the lineup following injury as Yacouba Sylla and Nathan Baker drop out. That suggests a change of shape with Paul Lambert perhaps converting his 3-5-2 to a more standard 4-3-3.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to capture you real-time reactions during the afternoon’s matches and throughout United’s tea-time visit to Sunderland.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Telpuialion
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    First Half observation: United trying to cross the ball too much. Too damn much! At one point RvP was on the edge of the box and all he had to do was cut in and shoot. But NO! instead he keeps going with the ball and crosses from near the end line.
    Rooney in central position passed unnecessarily wide so many times! So frustrating. Stop doing that. All the Sun defenders are taller than you!

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  2. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    where is your lovely RVP this season?

    😆

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      He is almost worst than Soldado.

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      1. charlie1X
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Man Utd is the new Solado. No goals in 5.5 games in open play

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    2. FantaCity
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      he's RVPeed off

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    3. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      In the sh*thole, with every other Man Utd player

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    4. Stephen - Robot Daniels
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Comfort blanket gone, hundreds of thousands of FPL players clueless what to do next.... Probably still RVP (c) though, they know no other way.

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  3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Subscribers to the Manchester United App have received a personal half time message from David Moyes.

    It reads "anyone got any ideas?"

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Yes. I have. Get Welbeck on for Nani.

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    2. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      😆 Oh my days...

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    3. Del Griffith
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Play Zaha.....he might score for Moyes

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    4. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Bring Valencia on! 🙂

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  4. Jagermeister
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Spoilt wankers

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  5. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Next United manager?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      tony pulis

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      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Sideways move football wise. 😉

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    2. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Moyes

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      i could sort them out

      first thing i would do would be to say bye bye RVP

      then i would make brilliant team

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        😆

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      2. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Hahahaha would love this.

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      3. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Even for you it's more daft and arrogant than ever

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      4. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        lol Forca who would be in your team?

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Chikarito would be part of my team for sure

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            Agreed there

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  6. Rafabio
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Rooney is clearly still affected by that shin knock.

    United look clueless overall and Adnan is the only positive out there now.

    RVP 14 million? LMAO.

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    1. Del Griffith
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      next season RVP will be about 7.5 million....

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  7. Stephen - Robot Daniels
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    United would struggle in the SPL going on recent performances.

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      That's going a bit far...

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      1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        I agree sorry, I apologise mods, that was a step too far.

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  8. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Wouldn't it be funny if Moyes brings on Giggs?

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      It's funny that he found out one of his players was banging his fit daughter and it's NOT giggs.

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  9. Simon March
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Hiddink the next United manager? 😉

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I'm tipping Roy Hodgson

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      1. Qubit
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Good for Utd bad for England that would be. Personally id rather see Roy stay where he is.

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  10. Heels_Over_Head
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Sunderland look much happier.

    - are they only happy Di Canio is gone?
    - or are they playing hard for their temporary manger? does he deserve the job?

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      They're not playing for a fascist lunatic. It'd make anyone happy.

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    2. FantaCity
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      someone speculated a while back that they had been purposely playing badly to get DiCanio shifted

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    3. Do I Not Like Orange
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Our players do it every time they get a new manager - notice they upped their game for MON when Bruce left and PDC when MON left, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Even if we win today, I hope Ball doesn't get it full-time - caretaker appointments never work out, especially for us.

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  11. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    United have basically become England.

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      God Save our Moyes

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        I dunno, does he really want to 😆

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    2. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      not right

      England build up expectations of success before going flat

      if Man U were England, they would be leading the Prem after 30 games, then lose 6 of their last 8 to lose the Prem by a point

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        They'd also go out in the quarters of the cup on penalties

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  12. Lawrø
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    It's fantastic to see United fans actually dealing with footballing problems for once, now they know what it's like to be an ordinary fan! 😀

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      shame it couldnt have happened to fergie

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Most Man U fans only watch MOTD.

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  13. FPL_Liger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    There's no way that Moyes will be let go before this Christmas/ this season unless something goes catastrophically wrong. Stick with him , he needs to be able to bring in a few new players, see Brendan Rogers, Liverpool as the reason to stick with a manager!

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    1. Gravless wonder
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Moyes situation has more in common with Woy at Liverpool than Rodgers...turgid football, foot-in-mouth press conferences, bad signings, cautious rigid 4-4-2 etc.

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  14. Gravless wonder
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    800 minutes since Man Utd scored in open play...

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  15. NATSTER
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Time to say good bye with Rooney.

    Should I welcome Suarez for SaS partnership or the value Lukaku?

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    1. Jagermeister
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Diversify

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      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Brilliant advice.

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    2. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Lukaku

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    3. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Wait, Rooney cpuld score 2 yet and has a decent looking fixtures

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  16. RD
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Was always going to bring Lukaku ths week...Shld i do Negredo > Lukaku before the price fall/rise 2nyt...Ne opinion/??

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I would. Lukaku will rise 0.3m over the break, so might as well do it now.

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  17. Football is Life
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Take off Roo for Fellaini and launch the ball up to his chest.

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    1. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      He's not even on the bench!

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  18. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Macheda bangin' em in for Doncaster

    Just sayin'

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  19. Spin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    27m for Fellaini and he's not even in the squad. Instead he persists with Cleverly, who is useless.

    Moyes does not have a clue what he is doing

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    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Probably injured...

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  20. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    United will come back, they always do. Let's save all the laughs till after the game (if they lose)

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    1. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      That's the point....Even if they comeback, we have had our share of laughs.

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        can't laugh properly unless they lose

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  21. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Sunderland chasing everything down. Very rarely do teams keep up that sort of pressing for 90 minutes.

    1-1

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  22. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    My dear UTD 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁

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    1. boc610
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      "wheres your messiah now Flanders?"

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    2. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Whatyou need is an arm around your shoulder and a sympathic ear! Good luck with that!

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  23. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Felipao aka Big Phil in for united...leaves brasil.

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    1. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Not a hope in hell.

      Big Phil will be winning a second World Cup

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      1. Total Foot 5
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        i know.was being sarcastic. I go to brasil a lot so i know. But defo,Big phil needs to go bak to premier for a tam and set the record straight.Chelsea was hardly what he can achieve. Ive seen him do wonders.

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  24. Werkself
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Sturridge 3 baps?

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    1. Pedram
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      yea

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      1. Werkself
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        TY

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  25. JUSTBLAZE
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    I have both RVP and Rooney...

    I won't have a clue what to do with all that spare cash. I just don't get what is wrong. The line up is the best we could've asked for but why do our players look disinterested? Surely the players have enough bottle to be able to back themselves and not need SAF to do it for them back in the days?

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    1. charlie1X
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      THey have sacked all the trainers. Man Utd RIP

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  26. maxi - REAL ENGLISH FAN
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Every club has its time

    We had it in the 80s

    Fergie might have knocked us off our perch

    But were back on.

    Or at least man u are off it

    Actually makes the league interesting as well

    Especially with no return to the old days with mourinho and chelsea

    Fergie was man u whether it was team talks or people being scared (including refs)

    Noone is scared of man u any more that's what's changed

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  27. smash
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    If RVP AND Soldado both fail this week, what one would you ship for Lukaku? not fussed about the money as it'll be a straight downgrade.

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    1. Del Griffith
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      got to be RVP with the price difference

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I'd personally change both, but I'd change Soldado before RVP money being no issue.

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      1. smash
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Yeh the plan is to flog both eventually Benteke & Lukaku would be nice! will have to watch the spuds game carefully tomorrow, cheers guys.

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  28. charlie1X
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Moyes so scared he is playing crips get Welbeck and Kagawa on and shake this shit up.

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  29. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Soldado > Lukaku tonight for me...Feels daft doing it before Bobby even plays but it's a 0.2m swing after tonight...

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  30. Del Griffith
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    a change of strategy is needed at United as they cant by a goal. Time to sign Delap and go for the long throw ins

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