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7 December 2013 1608 comments
Mark Mark
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The early Saturday kick-offs are back and this one delivers an encounter which could bang a final nail in Man United’s title ambitions.

It seems premature and ridiculous to think that the champions could be out of the race before Christmas and yet, anything less than three points today with victories for City, Chelsea and Arsenal over the weekend, would surely leave David Moyes’ side floundering before the Turkey has been basted.

Newcastle can be dangerous opponents – they arrive at Old Trafford having had their four-match winning streak ruthlessly halted by Swansea in midweek. However, Alan Pardew’s side have weapons to hurt the United rearguard and a combative midfield who seem unlikely to surrender control to the home side.

Strangely, many Fantasy managers will struggle to find too much interest in this one. Although, with Wayne Rooney suspended, we can at least run the rule of Robin van Persie. The Dutchman makes a timely return to Moyes’ lineup having recovered from recent injury concerns. His introduction is one of seven changes as Jonny Evans, Phil Jones, Nani, Tom Cleverley, Adnan Januzaj and Javier Hernandez all come in. Chris Smalling, Ryan Giggs, Antonio Valencia, Marouane Fellaini, Danny Welbeck and Shinji Kagawa miss out following Wednesday’s defeat to Everton. As for Newcastle, they make just one change – Vernon Anita is drafted in to bolster the midfield as Shola Ameobi drops to the bench.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom has opened up for this early clash and will remain available for your real-time requirements right through all today’s seven fixtures.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Your Mum's Athletic
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Cant believe Coloccini is my first sub, pure trolling! 😀

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Why bench him for such an easy fixture?

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
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        😀

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      2. don parcheesi
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        12 years, 26 days ago

        oof, harsh but true (true-ish)

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    2. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Krul is my keeper...so Krul.

      Last week I left Gabbidon and Coleman on bench, along with sixteen points 🙁

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  2. Billy Gilmore
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Debuchy CS intact.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Oh I forgot I have him in Sky

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  3. RabMac
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Is Moyes going to get the sack?

    I personally think he does not having the backing of all the players and if I were him I would offload motor mouth Ferdinand in January, as I would be surprised if he is not stirring things.

    I also think that Moyes should be given time in the job, as it was always going to be a big ask to fill Ferguson's shoes. At the moment it is not his team and I think he needs to be given the opportunity to build his own team with players who are suited to his tactics.

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    1. Crouch Potato!
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Clearing out nearly a full team is not straight forward.

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    2. Gerdleah
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Starting midfield of Nani, Cleverley, Jones and Januzaj says it all. This squad needs completely rebuilt, which is what Fergie knew. Moyes should be given the time to rebuild.

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      1. rdpx
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        12 years, 26 days ago

        he could just swap them all with Martinez.

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    3. Epic Fail
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Ferdinand is such an arsehole when it comes to social media.

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    4. Pasqualinho
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      No. I'm pretty sure the board expected him to have some struggles at first. They should stick with him and give him at least a second season.

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    5. Noisy Neighbour
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      Wise words.

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    6. tm245
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      I do feel for Moyes -- his dream job coming at a nightmare time replacing the legend who pulled off one of the best managing performances of the greatest career of all time. That roster needs serious work -- Carrick is only one man -- but how can you liquidate the defending champions?

      Impossible situation for him, imo.

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    7. Ghost Ship
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      personally dont think he has ever demonstrated enough tactical range or worked with the quality of players he has now. out of his depth. if it was about building a team up from nothing then he would be an inspired choice, but manu are at a different level than he has ever been. just my view.

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  4. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Who's the bloke who specifically recommended Cabaye earlier? "Always performs vs the big teams" was the reasoning. Well done.

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    1. @FPLMason
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Damn

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    2. isacki: full casual
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      Props

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  5. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Yes cabaye scored. Oh no that's right I sold him this week for hazard.I have this game.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      I have it too 😉

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      1. DA Minnion (Former great)
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        🙂

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      used to have it

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  6. The Finnisher
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Was thinking of getting Debuchy in for next GW literally 1 minute ago. My bad Mathieu

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  7. Wirtzle Gummidge
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    No lampard 🙂 Hello Hazard pens 😀

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    1. ILOVEBAPS
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Hmmm... tasty possibility.

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  8. Willis.
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    I LOVE MOYES

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  9. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Yanga-Mbiwa on. I'm putting a quid on him to score next.

    In his own net, of course.

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  10. Stephen - Robot Daniels
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    The Kinnear effect..

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  11. Freshy
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Will Cabayes BPS go up if his goal is a game winner?

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    1. SPorting
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Yep.

      Should grab all 3 baps.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      +1bp

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  12. Darsh
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Debuchy also looks to be injured, off now.

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  13. MJ6987
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Will United really want to let Moyes spend the warchest in January?

    He's already wasted £27m on Fellaini, might as well save the cash for the next manager

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    1. Derailed Bandwagon
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      They may need to spend some cash in January to avoid relegation 😆

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  14. Derailed Bandwagon
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Can't wait to see if my John O Shea transfer pays off later

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    1. MJ6987
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Exciting transfer

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      1. Derailed Bandwagon
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        12 years, 26 days ago

        Isn't it just 😀

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    2. RabMac
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      While he might get you points every now and then, there are better players for the money. I will eat my words if you get a sustained points return on him.

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  15. Bubz
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Quite shocking how awful Utd are. Really really really bad.

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    1. Pasqualinho
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Yep. The Everton defence doesn't seem so good now.

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  16. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Santon my 3rd sub.

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  17. Jimrod™
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    I think two things are contributing to a good season for me:

    1: Not using this site for advice on team selection.

    2: Not being a Utd fan.

    😀

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  18. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Utd going to be a casual 15 points from top 🙁

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    1. Goaldigger
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      How far from drop?

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    2. Gloria Kanchelskis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      And the top four looks out of reach too!

      If they don't back Moyes in jan the writing is on the wall for him.

      The ball was going in though before it hit Anitas arm

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  19. Lizard Lips
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Everton now Newcastle keeping CS at OT whilst Evra conceeds and hits the bar in both games. In a parallel universe he has got 30 points instead of 4.

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  20. isacki: full casual
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    has been relieved of duties with immediate effect

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      Odds?

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      1. get_in
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        No chance, he'll finish out the season at least

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          You'd definitely have thought at the start of the season, but would you agree there is a league position below which they'd advance that?

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          1. get_in
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            12 years, 26 days ago

            Potentally yes, but I don't see them being outside the top 8 come Jan, never mind at the end of the season despite the current rough patch.

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            1. isacki: full casual
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              12 years, 26 days ago

              Yeah, fixtures are good. Today is a tough fixture to be fair.

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        2. don parcheesi
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          12 years, 26 days ago

          agreed, really long odds on that.

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  21. Optimus.
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Utd are the old Liverpool and Liverpool are the old Utd 😯

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    1. GTS
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      oh boy.. 😯

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    2. Gloria Kanchelskis
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      The first part maybe but Liverpool will struggle for 4th

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  22. get_in
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    At least Ywanga-Mwbia is always good for a penalty

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  23. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Time to recall Paul Scholes from retirement.

    It's come down to this.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Recall Bebe from loan

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      1. doggies
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        12 years, 26 days ago

        Hahaha

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    2. Derailed Bandwagon
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      May as well go the whole hog and call Cantona, Yorke, Cole, Pallister, and Bruce. They need some title winning mentality.

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  24. Noisy Neighbour
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Debuchy off injured with his clean sheet intact. My first sub, so now I don't have to sweat on anyone getting rested tomorrow. Will be a shame if he's not fit for SOU though.

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  25. r0nh
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Long benched.

    Wild Rover must be gutted 🙁

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    1. Optimus.
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      It was a long shot

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      1. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        *grabs coat and heads for the door

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    2. rdpx
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      I think he did it so he could afford Hazard.

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  26. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    The Evans trade is going well so far...

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Will score now

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  27. handrelo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    At the moment im Glad i didnt do Cabaye to Shelvey. Instead i benched Lukaku for Cabaye. It looks like a good decision:-)

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    1. DynamoTomato
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Nice one!

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  28. DynamoTomato
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    awww darn!! Colocinni on my bench as 2nd sub. they have been superb today. mind you man utd have been rank.

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  29. The 12th Man
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    another game for Azpilicueta. Now Thinking of Ivanovic > Azpili and Rat > Jagielka

    Good?

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  30. Bridge
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Yanga-Mbiwa: Brainless

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