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7 December 2013 1608 comments
Mark Mark
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The early Saturday kick-offs are back and this one delivers an encounter which could bang a final nail in Man United’s title ambitions.

It seems premature and ridiculous to think that the champions could be out of the race before Christmas and yet, anything less than three points today with victories for City, Chelsea and Arsenal over the weekend, would surely leave David Moyes’ side floundering before the Turkey has been basted.

Newcastle can be dangerous opponents – they arrive at Old Trafford having had their four-match winning streak ruthlessly halted by Swansea in midweek. However, Alan Pardew’s side have weapons to hurt the United rearguard and a combative midfield who seem unlikely to surrender control to the home side.

Strangely, many Fantasy managers will struggle to find too much interest in this one. Although, with Wayne Rooney suspended, we can at least run the rule of Robin van Persie. The Dutchman makes a timely return to Moyes’ lineup having recovered from recent injury concerns. His introduction is one of seven changes as Jonny Evans, Phil Jones, Nani, Tom Cleverley, Adnan Januzaj and Javier Hernandez all come in. Chris Smalling, Ryan Giggs, Antonio Valencia, Marouane Fellaini, Danny Welbeck and Shinji Kagawa miss out following Wednesday’s defeat to Everton. As for Newcastle, they make just one change – Vernon Anita is drafted in to bolster the midfield as Shola Ameobi drops to the bench.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom has opened up for this early clash and will remain available for your real-time requirements right through all today’s seven fixtures.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. DRIZ ✅
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    So glad i kept Rooney on the bench and didnt sell. Must have next week.

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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      Yep

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    2. 4-4-who?
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      Me too

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  2. Scottys Army
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Bemba having a field day

    Good lad

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      many years of glory hunting united fans bragging

      This our time now 😀

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  3. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    Pardew is our king song back 😀 LOL

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  4. Stephen - Robot Daniels
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    Cabaye selected by a couple of hundred extra in the last half hour 🙂

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  5. rohan
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    Krul CS. 😀

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  6. Tomlette Greggs
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    • 14 Years
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    David Moyes is making history in his own way. You bastards leave him alone.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      He's making it for all the right reasons as far as I'm concerned 🙂

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      1. Tomlette Greggs
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        its a 'project'. Long may it continue 🙂

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    2. Lawrø
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      😆

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    3. RÏɠBY
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      he's doing a great job

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    4. 4-4-who?
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      Loving what Moyes has done for United. It's been long overdue.

      Humble pie for starter, main and pudding...enjoy United 'fans'

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  7. rdpx
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    My Jonny Evans (C) punt is no longer looking so clever.

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  8. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Moyes needs to go now before anymore damage is done. hes put united with a mid table mentality. Will never change.

    Get him out. Its painful to watch them like this.

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    1. The Finnisher
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      They have a terrible squad.

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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        12 years, 26 days ago

        Yet Fergie can play them to be champions?

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        1. Moorinho
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 26 days ago

          Any other Fergies lying around?

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        2. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 26 days ago

          Fergie didn't have a constantly injured/unfit RVP and Carrick who were his best players by a country mile, and he jumped off a sinking ship, every other top half team has moved forward but United's haven't.

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          1. onionbarje
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            this this this Fergie retired at the perfect time cause he knew Man U midfield was a mess, he never improved the midfield

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          2. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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            Still dont think they would be where they were now. They would be lying around the top 3-4 at worst.

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        3. onionbarje
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          We only won because everyone was inconsistent last yr, why do you think we struggled in the UCL last year.

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        I don't agree with you Jack. Sorry, but you have this one wrong.

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
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          Not saying they don't have plenty of good players, but they have plenty of poor ones too. IMO Cleverley, Smalling, Fellaini, Nani, Valencia, Anderson and a few others are nowhere near good enough, and they are getting regular minutes.

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    2. Glasner Ball
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      No keep Moyes please.

      The majority of football fans will concur I am sure 🙂

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  9. The Finnisher
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    I've gotta admit I saw Newcastle as relegation candidates before and especially after GW1.

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    1. don parcheesi
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      Europa hurt them last year, inordinately so. Welcome back the days of a solid Newcastle defense, and an attacker or two to boot.

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  10. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    if united really are serious about moyes leading united, they must give him at least a season before they even start judging him imo

    United didn't become so good the last two decades by accident

    SAF was the heart and soul of this team - so dont expect it to heal to quickly after having ripped those out

    manu is still in mourning

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    1. don parcheesi
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      I'm with you 95%, but what was that midfield today?

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        this is the point! we've all been saying for ages how poor the united squad is - still they've won titles! now it shows how poor the squad really is - even worse than everton's apparently

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    2. onionbarje
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      he's gonna need more than a season to fix that midfield

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  11. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    cant believe im sayin this, but i feel sorry for moyes ....

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Likewise. But not United 😀

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
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      Something badly wrong with the player's mindset.

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      1. don parcheesi
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        12 years, 26 days ago

        I blame Evra

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  12. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Gary Lineker ‏@GaryLineker 3m
    Manchester United lose 2 successive home games in the Premier League for the first time in 10 years.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      😯

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      United has a new manager for the first time in over 25 years

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        stop looking for excuses. Moyes is shit. Everyone knows that.

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          • 15 Years
          12 years, 26 days ago

          nice argument, can you say it again, it was so good

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          1. Chu Young Ping Pong
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 26 days ago

            Say what again? lmao

            "United has a new manager for the first time in over 25 years"

            No shit? hahaa

            What does that have to do with them being in the bottom half?

            Why are you even arguing? Your points don't make any sense. Try again.

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    3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Moyes is breaking streaks all over the place!

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  13. FORCA INTER
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    you have to laught at FFS community wich predicted Benteke and RVP to be in race for golden foot

    i seriously can't pick who is worst player out of those 2

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    1. Captain Hindsight
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      You tell 'em Forca.

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    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Didn't you pick Soldado?

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
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        Amongst others!

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      2. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        no , i picked SDuarez with 6 games ban 😀

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    3. Simon69
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      So you've changed your opinion on something and now you're furiously backpedalling??

      I have to say Forca.. that is soooooo unlike you!

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    4. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      "golden foot"

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      1. Moorinho
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        Who needs a boot when you can have a foot.

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    5. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      And last season?

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    6. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      have you cracked?

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    7. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Who needs a golden boot when you have a golden foot

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  14. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Collocinni 2nd sub...

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  15. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    2 games in a row without scoring at Old Trafford 🙁

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  16. ILOVEBAPS
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Who is selling Ravel (dropping) or holding for SUN?

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Holding obviously. Why would I sell?

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      1. ILOVEBAPS
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        Crap fixtures after his next game also a factor.

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    2. Stephen - Robot Daniels
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      He shouldn't drop after the flag is removed.

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      1. ILOVEBAPS
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        He's at -113% though! Can that recover in time? Lukaku was in similar position 2 weeks ago and made it back under the drop zone but still dropped anyway.

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    3. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Will he drop, though? His flag should come off when West Ham play.

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  17. Lawrø
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    I actually feel a little sorry for David Moyes 😆

    I take the mic but this is unreal, I never thought they'd play this crap for this long!

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      First there was fear.
      Then there was laughing.
      Then there was sympathy.

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  18. In Like Flynn.
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    144 transfers in for Cabaye today. Was this a gross error of judgement?

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      144 very happy Toon fans celebrating in style.

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    2. I am not a smart guy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Suppose they don't know he was on 4 yellows.

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  19. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Loving this season. Nothing beats watching United crumble.

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
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      So true 😆

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  20. Stephen - Robot Daniels
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Just watching the full time whistle boos for the 8th time...

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  21. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Man U?! 😯

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      What? They've been missing for 90 mins!

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        More like 90 days! 😆

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  22. isacki: full casual
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Evans: avl WHM hul nor TOT SWA

    How many CS?

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    1. rohan
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      4

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        12 years, 26 days ago

        Are you just trying to cheer me up

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    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
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      1 maybe.

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      One. Tottenham.

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      1. RÏɠBY
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 26 days ago

        😉

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    4. Lawrø
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      2

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  23. r0nh
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    I dont want to rub salt in the wounds for Utd fans...

    BUT

    I can't tell you how sweet it would be to see RVP playing on Thursdays nights next season...

    Oh, if Arsenal could win the league this year!!

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    1. Parm
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      We won't even make the Europa League at this rate.

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    2. I am not a smart guy
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      RVP time to back home...if Arsenal wants you back.

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    3. onionbarje
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      we will be lucky to make the UEL

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  24. Obi Wan Elokobi
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Just realised my sub keepers done it again I haven't other than GW1 picked the right keeper yet. Had the Boruc - Mignolet partnership every week wrong and now Krul- Mignolet already looks like that trend will continue.

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  25. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    I think top 4 is out of the question now for united. Too much competition.

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      5th or 6th I reckon

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
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      Loads of time.

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    3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      They'll get top four easily next year.
      Their parachute payments will enable them to invest

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  26. rohan
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    Krul on for BAPS?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      3

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    2. Shifty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Will prob share the 3 with Cabaye. Well done.

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  27. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    As long as Utd finish 4th then I would quite like to see a Utd shopping spree, 100mil plus.

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    1. onionbarje
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      12 years, 26 days ago

      we won't finish 4th, we will scrape top 10

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  28. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Leeds, Burnley or Reading the most likely to win today?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      Reading.

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    2. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
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      Reading for me.

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    3. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Qpr

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    4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 26 days ago

      Reading then burnley

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  29. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    12 years, 26 days ago

    Moyes>Guus Hiddink for free?

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  30. Hurri Kane 42
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 26 days ago

    Tim Krul all set for 3 BP ..... just fancy Szczney is rested for tomorrow's game 🙂

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