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23 December 2013 4978 comments
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An all-London affair at the Emirates brings the curtain down on Gameweek 17 this evening. Plenty of Fantasy favourites are on show as the Gunners look for the win that would extend their lead to four points over the chasing pack:

For the hosts, Aaron Ramsey and Mesut Ozil are the main protagonists for Fantasy managers, whilst Theo Walcott will be looking to maintain the form that saw him score twice at the Etihad last weekend.

Jose Mourinho’s side roll up on the back of a poor form of form on the road. The Blues have been beaten in three of their last four away games in all competitions but know that a victory will draw them level with the Gunners on 36 points. Eden Hazard will be desperate to have his say before Fantasy managers turn our attentions to the Gameweek 18 fixtures on Boxing Day.

The team news sees the hosts make four changes from the side that lost 6-3 at City last time around. Kieran Gibbs and Thomas Vermaelen are drafted in for Nacho Monreal and Laurent Koscielny at the back, with the Frenchman sidelined due to a knee wound. Mikel Arteta partners Aaron Ramsey in the double-pivot, with Mathieu Flamini dropping out, whilst Tomas Rosicky gets the nod on the left, replacing the suspended Jack Wilshere. Lukas Podolski warms the Gunners bench along with the likes of Santi Cazorla.

The Blues make three alterations from the XI that edged past Palace. Gary Cahill replaces David Luiz in defence, whilst John Obi Mikel and Frank Lampard are drafted into midfield – Michael Essien drops out through suspension while Juan Mata takes his place on the bench, allowing Ramires to move onto the right of the attacking midfield three. Oscar, Andre Schurrle and Samuel Eto’o are also amongst the subs, with Fernando Torres leading the line again.

Once again, we’ve opened the Dugout Discussion chatroom for those partial to some real-time reaction.

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  1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    If you were to get a spuds midfielder for 4 weeks who would it be?
    Not impressed with Ericsson or lamela, but not sure of sig starting

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    1. JWF
      • 16 Years
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      If you really have to get one then probably Eriksen.

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        • 14 Years
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        Cool. Is he on set pieces do you know?

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        1. JWF
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Corners

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          1. JWF
            • 16 Years
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            But Spurs must be the worst corner takers in the league so it's unlikely that will help you.

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    2. Mr Smith
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      Err none if in honest.

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        • 14 Years
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        That's fine. Just looking at 3 of next 4 being real nice fixtures under new manager

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      I would not.

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        • 14 Years
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        Not even with WBA, STO, mun, CPL? worth a punt surely? Not like i am in the cup anymore 🙁

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          I have Adebayor. 🙂

          And Walker.

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          1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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            • 14 Years
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            Now is see why you wouldn't! Adebayour was hell of a shout mate

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              😀 I like that spelling! 😉

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              1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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                🙂

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Lennon after Dembéle. And Dembele is out.

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          1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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            • 14 Years
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            So is lennon likely back this week?
            May go Amalf and Clyne to walker and lennon for a hit if i feel frisky

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              Indeed. Not the worst.

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  2. In Like Flynn.
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    • 15 Years
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    Might go for Januzaj, how many diving............sorry...............yellow cards is he on?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      3

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    2. copps
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      he's on 3 for the league, dont think any from cups. well, he's not listed on the ticker at least 🙂

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    3. Parm
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      3

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    4. In Like Flynn.
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      Thanks chaps.

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  3. _Ninja_
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    1FT, 0 ITB, good to go this week or get rid of Mig?

    Mignolet
    Coleman / Mertesacker / Turner
    Yaya Touré / Ramsey / Hazard / Özil
    Lukaku / Suárez (c) / Rooney (vc)

    Lewis / Whittingham / Gabbidon / Chester

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    1. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Rid the Mig

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  4. Sting
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Suarez or Rooney (c) this week ?

    What's everyone thinking...?

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    1. JWF
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      I'm too scared to not captain Suarez. The downside is HUGE if he does anything so it's really not worth the gamble IMO.

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      1. Sting
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        • 13 Years
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        I'm 98k in the world, so not too bothered about overall rank this season.

        I think the ML leader may go Rooney with fears of Suarez away to City.

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        1. JWF
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          All the more reason to captain Suarez then.

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    2. DÏLKS
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      I'm really not sure.

      Suarez - Against Man City. Says enough.

      Rooney - Hull are very very good defensively, and at home, even more so.

      Lukaku - Not getting the best service, not in the best form. Sunderland have Wes Brown missing and John O'shea 50% chance.

      Hazard - Not consistent, Swansea half decent. Explosive

      Ozil/Ramsey - Could argue West Ham are solid at home. Ozil terrible away from home.

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      1. Sting
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        • 13 Years
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        Really tough week to pick the right captain. May just go Suarez because none of the others are standout candidates.

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        1. DÏLKS
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          I'm feeling Rooney, just like him as a player as well.

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      2. Jax
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        Ozil 3 assists in last 2 away

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      3. Jax
        • 16 Years
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        West ham are not solid at home

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        1. DÏLKS
          • 12 Years
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          Didn't mean to put that, meant to put a counter argument.

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      4. Big_Andy_GAWA
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        All good, and valid points. I have it on Roonpig at the mo. I am torn a bit, though.

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        1. DÏLKS
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          I also have it on Rooney, big fan of him as a player as well, might just keep it on him.

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      5. Jax
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        Hull have been good defensively but those records have to end. Rooney has 6 goals in his last 2 v them

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        1. Sting
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          That stat is irrelevant. The last time Rooney played Hull they had a completely different side.

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          1. Jax
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            He's a better pick than Suarez.

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        2. DÏLKS
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          Irrelevant trivia. At the start of the season, who would have said Hull have one of the best defences in the league, or Aaron Ramsey would become amazing, Seamus Coleman scoring 4 from right-back? You have to base it on now.

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          1. Jax
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            12 years, 1 month ago

            Can see man u scoring at least two

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            1. DÏLKS
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              If they go 1-0 up, then Hull are going to have to score. All about breaking the deadlock.

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  5. Arsenal USA FC
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Which change should I do?

    A - Vorm -> Marshall
    B - Williams -> Willamson/Olsson(NOR)

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    1. Hay Number 2
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      That's a blow for the swans!!!!

      They have been struggling injury wise. I'd never fork out that much for him.......again! Lol

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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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      OMG Michu

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  6. Release The Ox
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Have made the decision....not giving Luis the armband on boxing day. Its going to either Yaya or Negredo. Who do you think?
    Yaya on set pieces but Negredo is so consistent at the Etihad...

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    1. Arsenal USA FC
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Negredo

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  7. Hay Number 2
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    We'll I am more than happy with my 85 for the game week. That's 8 green arrows from the last 9.

    How did everyone get on?

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    1. citizen_kane
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      93 for me. 8 in 9 huh? Well done. What's your overall rank?

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      1. Hay Number 2
        • 14 Years
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        Nothing spectacular, 150-170k

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        1. citizen_kane
          • 14 Years
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          Getting there.

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          1. Hay Number 2
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            I finished 248 one year.....haven't been able to reach those dizzy heights since

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            1. citizen_kane
              • 14 Years
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              That's insane!

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      2. Hay Number 2
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        93points is a cracking effort btw 🙂

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      🙁

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  8. copps
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    just found this earlier, thought it was pretty funny

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k2YEc6dozA

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  9. A.T
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Ozil to Wally -4? Yay or nay

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    1. Sting
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      • 13 Years
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      Nay

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Maybe. Too early.

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    3. Hay Number 2
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      Nay

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    4. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Really sat on the fence on this one guys looking for a bit of guidance is it worth the switch from Ozil to Walcott for free?

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    5. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
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      Pfffffft.

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    6. A.T
      • 15 Years
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      Cheers all

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  10. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Is it still possible to overturn a 100 point margin to in my mini league ??

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
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      yes

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    2. JWF
      • 16 Years
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      Yes.

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    3. Sting
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Depends on team value, and general football intelligence of the league leader.

      But if they are clued up I would say no.

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    4. Hay Number 2
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Totally, I've closed down the leader by 50 in the space of 3-4 game weeks! Believe sir

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    5. Sean.
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      no, just challenging 😉

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    6. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
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      Easy Peasy. Ask again if you're that far behind GW31

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    7. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      to your knowledge i finished 2nd last time round in the same league

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    8. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      If your around the 10k mark you have a good chance of winning a mini league

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  11. Sting
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Nasri > Yaya
    Zab > 5.4m def (Gibbs, Debuchy, Santon, Kosc, etc)

    worth (-4) ?

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  12. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Price Rise issue: margin of error w/ total.

    Walcott at 95.2% to rise tonite. is ther any chance FPL makes him rise tonite if lets say for ex Walcott REMAINS at 96% until 1:40am London time???

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    1. Jimmers
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      Can't see any reason he would rise tonight. Needs another 2k NTI

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      1. Total Foot 5
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        ok. thnx for the answer. im short on time and wanted to give it a 2nd thought til tomo if i wanted walcot or not.

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        1. Total Foot 5
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          bt, so far Walcot has had 3,732 transfers.
          & today's NTI on totalfpl is 957

          i did not understand what you referred to as need another NTI 2K?

          are you saying that on NTI total the # needs to get to 2,950 aprox
          or on FPL to 5,700 transfers? thx

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  13. maxi - REAL ENGLISH FAN
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Lmao few everton fans

    And 'moral' people

    In my league refusing to bring in suarez

    say goodbye to your mini league

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    1. citizen_kane
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I was like that with RVP last year. Just no point in playing, really.

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  14. Hibbo
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard > Yaya? Yes or No?

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    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

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      1. Hibbo
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        • 13 Years
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        Hazard hot n cold don't like my guys subbed off.

        And Yaya hammered my rank this week plus nice Palace double up.

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        1. A.T
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          I'm tempted to do it myself at some point.

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          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
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            It would give me

            Özil Ramsey Silva Yaya

            Rooney Suarez Lukaku

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    2. DÏLKS
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      No. Chelsea run through Hazard. Who are your other midfielders?

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      1. Hibbo
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Silva Özil Ramsey Hazard

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        1. DÏLKS
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Big ask, but Ramsey --> Yaya?

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          1. Hibbo
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            My value is good but not that good lol

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    3. Thomass
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      No

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    4. Sean.
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      • 14 Years
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      Not this week

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      1. Hibbo
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        • 13 Years
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        For Palace maybe Sean?

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  15. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
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    The way i see it

    I buy Ya Ya and he scores well , I make little progress in rankings

    I buy Theo and he does well i can make big progress in rankings.

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    1. DÏLKS
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Wally for me.

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    2. citizen_kane
      • 14 Years
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      You buy Theo and Yaya does well, huge drop in rankings.

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
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        good point but theo is more explosive of the 2 imo

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    3. Tiote on Peyote
      • 14 Years
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      Yeh but if Yaya continues to score you won't get anywhere because he'll cancel out your Wally differential.

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    4. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yaya fails, don't fall as much. Walcott fails, fall more. Is the other side.

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        cheers lads

        may just get ya ya and get differentials else where.

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        1. white lightning
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          go for defenders.

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  16. Thomass
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Best 5.2 defender?

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    1. Arsenal USA FC
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Williamson JEvans Olsson(NOR) Dawson

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      1. Thomass
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Evans or Dawson?

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    2. Podge
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      Depends entirely on your other defenders

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      1. Thomass
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        JT Coleman, Faye, Chcio

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      2. Thomass
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Chico JT Coleman and Faye

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  17. Hay Number 2
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Do you think ozil to ya ya for the long term is a good shout. I have no city coverage and I'm getting edgy

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    1. Snikiii
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      12 years, 1 month ago

      yes

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    2. A.T
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      Yes

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    3. Hay Number 2
      • 14 Years
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      Thanks chaps

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    4. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      no

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  18. Pedram
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Is there any chance of Walcott raising tonight ?

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    1. A.T
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      12 years, 1 month ago

      It's close but I'd guess no

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      Nope.

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    3. Podge
      • 15 Years
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      No, needs to rise more in the next 2 hours than he has all day

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    4. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      no

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  19. Hay Number 2
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    I must admit I don't really look at my rivals and allow it to dictate my transfers. The bottom line for me is, can I get someone in that will deliver more points than the one I'm getting rid of. It makes no difference to me if my rival has him or not.

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  20. maxi - REAL ENGLISH FAN
    • 14 Years
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    I'm tweeting about the weather and moaning like a **** because my favourite gastropub will be closed and I won't be able to buy guacomle and hummus from waitrose tomorrow

    Lol jk

    I'm not a londoner and I'm carrying on as noral because we live on an island next to a massive land mass and a huge body of water and this is what to expect when you're BRITISH

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      And the British moan about things...

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    2. Tiote on Peyote
      • 14 Years
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      What?

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  21. Alejo - CFC
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone crazy enough to do Adebayor (C) ?

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Don't ya know I'm loco

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  22. Parm
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Right then lads....

    Mignolet;
    Distin, B.Turner, Koscielny*;
    Ozil, Hazard, Silva, Whittingham;
    Suarez, Rooney, Lukaku.

    Rudd, Morrison, Gabbidon, Rosenior.

    1FT; £0.1m in the bank

    Any ideas folks?

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    1. Thomass
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Kos to Evans

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    2. Gloria Kanchelskis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      If Kos is out for more than a game I'd be tempted by JEvans if not save the FT ??

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      1. Parm
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        • 14 Years
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        Good should, cheers to Tom above too.

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  23. Vardy Gras PBFC
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard looked the only one likely to create a goal for CHE tonight.

    Was the substitution to keep his legs for Boxing Day v SWA or is he at risk of rotation with LIV being the game after? Thoughts?

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    1. Tiote on Peyote
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Keep him good for Boxing Day, Jose knew it was a draw.

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  24. Redalert
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    Best keeper to replace pant? Budget of 4.9?

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    1. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      whoevers at sunderland

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    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      Who is your 2nd?

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      1. Redalert
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        K davis☺:)

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    3. An Púca
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      12 years, 1 month ago

      Mannone

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  25. Declan
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    Barkley or Januzaj?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      Januzaj.

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Adnan

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    3. Gloria Kanchelskis
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      • 12 Years
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      Januzaj

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  26. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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    I love the smell of stale Old Speckled Hen in the morning.

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
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      That's no way to talk about your missus

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      1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        • 13 Years
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        :):

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  27. Get up ya bum
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    😕
    Dunno if I should do Mozilla > Wally (could backfire) or just Migs > Marshal (Migs: mci, che. Marsh: SOU, SUN. Getting Marshal & Manonne in wildcard anyway)

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
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      Get Migs and Marshall and dont WC too early

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        You mean get Marshall and keep migs? That would be ideal for now but I'm 0.3 short 🙁

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  28. jez_wright
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    ok boys 3 questions

    1) best GK
    2) best defender under 5
    3) best midfielder under 5

    i was planning on doing:

    pants -> krul
    clyne -> bardsley
    ward-prowse -> sterling

    got £14.6m to play with for the 3 players, any better options?

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    1. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      nice transfers

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  29. Federico
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    If Suarez was out of the question, who would you captain on boxing day?

    Regardless of tonight, Walcott is tempting me.
    I have some catching up to do, so i'll have to think about taking the risk.

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    1. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Roo

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