Fixtures
25 October 2010 1316 comments
Andy Andy
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The roundabout otherwise known as “Frisking the Fixtures” is rocking once more as teams go hopping on and off at fantasy manager’s excitement and/or peril. It’s up to us to keep up to speed with all these comings and goings and raise a flag of awareness for the good and the bad, so let’s take a peek at what gameweek ten (and onwards) is telling us…

The Highs…

Everton
David Moyes’ men get their first favourable frisking of the season, and boy it’s a good one. After their usual ploddy start to the season the Everton train has started to pick up pace over recent weeks and the fixtures that coincide (clicking sort by difficulty on your next six ticker will show you they are top dogs) with the form spell excellence with a capital E. The Toffees are set to stay close to home over November as they have four home games in the next six, and they’re quite attractive too (STK, BOL, ARS, WBA); plenty of potential for the forwards in particular, and not so bad for defenders either. Midfielders Tim Cahill and Mikel Arteta should expect to see bumper investment in the coming time, as should ultimate “out of position” candidate Seamus Coleman and the not quite so bargain Leighton Baines from defence.

Bolton
Bolton join the budget parade when it comes to favourable fixtures as they too are about to be sticking close to home a lot over the coming month. Bolton have only lost once so far this term, and that was at Arsenal with ten men, so now the games on their horizon shine brightly the results, in theory, will only improve, and aligned rightly could see a Trotters investment provide hearty returns. Johan Elmander will hopefully bring his away form to the Reebok Stadium and slots alongside Kevin Davies as a potential new striker. Martin Petrov and Chung Yong Lee will provide viable midfield variants and Gary Cahill and Zat Knight will provide your medium and low price defensive options.

Arsenal
Arsenal get drafted back into the considerations with a strong leaning on their fixtures in the next two weeks (WHM, NEW). When it comes to home sides, The Gunners are ones you want to be looking for without question or doubt, so two home fixtures against two of the weaker sides – and reasonable, if not stellar fixtures to follow – in the Premier League sounds a few sirens. Star captain Cesc Fabregas is likely to see a renewed vigour of investment from the fantasy crowd as he provides the answer to the all important captain’s conumdrum for the next two weeks, as well as players like Samir Nasri, Theo Walcott and Marouanne Chamakh all offering an opening at a price not quite as demanding on the budget.

Also to consider: West Ham (but maybe not this week in particular), Man United (with four nice home fixtures and a derby game in six), West Brom (for the long haul) and Blackpool (with a home fixture against the Baggies that looks like it has goals in it).

The Lows…

Blackburn
A simple continuation of the theme from the week previous, Blackburn’s fixtures are not good and investment in their wares carries a great deal of caution with it. Investors in their midfield and attack (anyone?) will be pretty sparse and those with a defender or two in their unit – which will be many people – may need to hunker down and expect clean sheets to be a bit of a commodity over the next month or so.

Birmingham
In two weeks time Birmingham have a pretty nice fixture (at home to West Ham), but other than that everything is most definitely not peachy on the home front, on the away front – on any front. A local derby against Aston Villa this week might appeal but is a fixture that can throw up just as much surprise, but certainly poses a threat – as with the above Blackburn – those who use their Birmingham quota to bolster their defensive unit. Throw in some fixtures with Spurs, Man City and Chelsea not soon after and the bigger picture begins to take shape. Foster, Dann, Ridgewell and co might be expecting to see some of their owners turn heels and run.

Wigan
As an opposite to those clubs highlighted as fixture angels, Wigan join the club of fixture demons with the fact they will be playing away from home four times in November a key contributing factor. Three of those long bus rides aren’t exactly the easiest places to go to either (Craven Cottage, Ewood Park and Old Trafford), which only compounds the fact investors may see trouble ahead, particular with some stern defences in the sight-lines. Rodallega and N’Zogbia are going to have an uphill challenge to get the kind of scores managers will be wanting following their recent uptick in performances.

Be wary of: Wolves (who’s fixtures are still very rough), Sunderland (with three away games in four for the poor travelers) and Spurs (with a mish mash of so-so fixtures).

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  1. snowman
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone see where I can make changes to bring Fab in or is it just not possible? Only one i can see is malouda > Fab

    I have 4.1 in the bank with following midfield

    VDV, MALOUDA, ETHERS, NOLAN, ADAM

    Strikers are DROG, BERBS, CARROLL

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Downgrade Berbatov and upgrade Nolan.

      You should WC though if you still have it. Your defense needs to be revamped - badly.

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      1. snowman
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        tell me about it, my WC has been used am thinking how can work fabs if not was thinking ethers > nasri

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  2. KOGUMA
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Getting rid of the likes of VDV, Malouda, Drogba is just nonsense! They will the top scorers FACT. Their run of games might not be that much but all that will happen is you (no one in particular) won't be able to get them back in without losing the 1 or 2 strong defenders you have or without going 3 crap midfielders instead of just 2.

      The way I see it is as soon as I decide to make the change to Fabs from Nasri (have the cash but want to see some time without injury after what happened in the Sunderland game) I'll have a front 8 that won't change all season barring injuries.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        your doing alright on the money front there dude !!

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        1. KOGUMA
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Early WC in game week 3 I think. Bale, Malouda, Berba, Drogs, Scholes and Wallcot all helped out. Only problem is that I'm struggling to see when I'll play Carroll over any of the other front 8. Guess it's a rotation between him and N'Zog.

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            1. Countryside Ram
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              dropping the zog's always a risk.

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            2. GREENDREAMS11
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              as far as problems go, its not gonna keep you awake at night tho is it 😉

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              1. David Davros
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                So it's not lost in the abyss, rethink the Jarhead descision - its one of my favourite movies ever! It's a beautifully put together film.

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                1. GREENDREAMS11
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  cheers mate, now its decision time. thats all this site does, makes you make decisions all the time.

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                2. Countryside Ram
                  • 15 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  i didn't rate it. (personal taste obviously) we were soldiers is one of my favourite films

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                  1. David Davros
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    I can see why people wouldn't - it's probably very much not what some people expected.

                    I just loved the vibe of the thing, thought provoking script, the soundtrack is awesome and visually it's material for the w**k bank.

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      2. ppp
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Malouda and Nasri or Bale/M.Petrov and Fabs?

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        1. KOGUMA
            15 years, 2 months ago

            I'm going Malouda and Nasri at the moment....will upgrade to Fabs and Malouda after he stays injury free for this game (and scores 25 points)

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        2. ppp
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Fabs and malouda not really an option, unless I drop Tevez next week, plus wouldn't want to bring in nasri for just the one week..

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          1. ppp
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            yes, I'm an idiot and can't hit the reply button.

            So, for 8pt hit, Bale,M.Petrov,konchesky for Nasri,VdV,Simpson (will he play?) Too silly?

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            1. ljungsled
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Where's the hurry to get rid of Bale or Konchesky? I'd say get Nasri now and next week VdV.

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              1. ppp
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Bale's not been doing much for a while, would like to bring in VdV before he gets prohibitive (going up again tonight). That was the logic anyway. M.Petrov also has decent games, but need some arse cover (Nani,Malouda,Adam rest of mid).

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                1. ljungsled
                  • 15 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  Bale & Petrov to VdV and Nasri are both solid trades. I just don't think VdV will outscore Bale with 4 points next game against Man U. Nasri would be nice to have next weekend though. So, unless the prices run too far for you to afford it in a weeks time, why take the hits?

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        3. Philman
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Camzy, if you are still there (or anyone else of course), this week doing Malouda to Fabs and Koncheski to Coleman, although thinking Jagielka instead. Your thoughts? I know Everton and Sunderland rotate home/away well hence will rotate with Mummy.

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          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Yep go for it.

            Konchesky > Coleman
            Malouda > Fabregas

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            1. Philman
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              What about Jagielka instead, I know more expensive, but more definite starter? I guess Coleman is a definite starter short temr thou.

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        4. Romford Pele - Don't w…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          a) nasri and foley

          or

          b) walcott and coleman?

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        5. Magerost
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Who should i bench this weekend out of Barton and N'Zog?

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            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              The person you think will score the least points.

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          • Jordan.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            jussi
            mummy/jara/bosingwa
            arteta/fabs(c)/nani/nzogbia
            carroll/tevez/drogs
            foster/willy/davies/samba
            already done maloudato fabs this week plan for next 2 weeks is davies to fergy and samba to kolarov ,averaging 51 points a week really hoping for a big score soon getting quite frustrated will it ever come???

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          • David Davros
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Drogba + N'Zogbia out

            Fabregas + Elmander in

            Talk me out of it.

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            1. GREENDREAMS11
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              i know im replying on the wrong post big steve but are you talking about jarhead ?

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              1. David Davros
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Yes - watch it!

                It's not a big action movie but it's so good. Well it's one of my favourite movies ever - i can't sing higher praises really. Depends whether you're after some cheap thrills or something with a little more depth though i suppose.

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                1. Epic Fail
                  • 15 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  It's not a bad film that. Far from the best film in the world, but worth a watch, especially if you like things such as Full Metal Jacket.

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            2. ViperStripes
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Don't get rid of Drogba, it's madness

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              1. David Davros
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                But it's a showdown between Drogba and Fabregas essentially. Fabregas is better value and i think will probably score more points. I also have Malouda so have Chelsea covered to some extent whereas without Fabregas i have no Arsenal coverage.

                Logic aside i prefer fabs and like arsenal, so i don't want to be sat there hoping he fails every week.

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            3. Babytigrrr
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              You know you'll regret it in the morning.

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          • Countryside Ram
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            would you drop, drogba or tevez? and is malouda enough chelsea coverage on his own?

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            1. Ringo
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Cashley's points total so far is incredible! If at all possible get him in NOW!!!

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              1. Countryside Ram
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                i was going to get him at 7.7/8 and didn't. now i cant bare spending 8.1

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                1. Cooper123
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  I know the feeling, I asked on here whether it was worth swapping Toure and Malouda to Cole and VDV, and the resounding response was yes, but still completely uneasy about that kind of money for a defender :S

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                  1. Countryside Ram
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    alex or boswinga could be a good 'poor mans option'

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                    1. Cooper123
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 15 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      Plan as stands is to bring in the Bos if he plays next week, yep

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          • josepe
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            i really to get fabs in but not sure i want to sacrifice Malouda. Which option sounds best? im doing berbz elmander to free up cash

            Krul Al.Habsi
            Cole Coleman Konchelsky Jones Perch
            Malouda VDV Nani Adam Cleverly
            Drog Tevez Berbz

            Cleverly to Nasri or Malouda to Fabs??

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          • ViperStripes
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            RMFP (Rate my Fabregas Plan)

            Plan 1:
            GW10 (2 free tfrs) VDV > Fabs & Berb > Pea
            GW11 No transfer
            GW12 Nasri > VDV & Pea > Elmander/Carroll

            means I have Nasri and Fabs for Arsenal's good run AND I capitalise on the Kneee Jerk price rise while Little Pea plays in place of Rooster.

            Plan 2:
            GW10 (2 free tfrs) VDV > Fabs & Berb > Elmander
            GW11 No transfer
            GW12 Nasri > VDV & spare for something else

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            1. David Davros
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              I was weighing up Hernandez - gonna go with my head and get Elmander in instead - he also looks good for a rise and is nailed on long term, also good fixtures.

              Hernandez lacks experience so will still be eased in, and Rooney has a habit of healing quickly - plus will be raring to go.

              I'd also be reluctant to get rid of VDV too (might you lose money on him?).

              What about
              Nasri > Fabs
              Berbs > Elmander

              Then see what happens over the next few weeks?

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              1. ViperStripes
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                I'll lose money on any of them. I thought having Nasri for a coupel of weeks whiel he's rising might help negate some of that.

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            2. ViperStripes
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              too long, or jsut everyone's bored of the Fabs topic

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          • P0mpey
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            I know this question has been asked a million times and I'm sure I won't be the last but PLEASE HELP!

            What would u do to this team to bring fab in? Or is it just not worth it?

            Hart / Foster
            A cole / elmohamady / coleman / alcaraz / willamson
            Malouda / nani / VDV / Bale / nzog
            Berbatov / Drogba / caroll

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            1. P0mpey
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Nothing the bank also

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              1. ViperStripes
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Berb > Carroll/Elmander or even Varney
                NZog to Albrighton
                Hart or Foster to a 4.0

                Does that give you enough cash to do Bale > Fabs?

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                1. P0mpey
                  • 15 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  Indeed it does, thanks for the idea... Only thing else I could come up with was

                  Berbs > elmander
                  VDV > fabs
                  Bale > brunt

                  Which is better?

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            1. Babytigrrr
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Like your league Fran - Girls on top! 😉

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          • Phillips
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Bit premature I know but Robinson at home to Chelsea or Carson away to Blackpool this weekend?

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            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              I presume Chelsea are going to score in every game they play. That's how I decide.

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              1. Phillips
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Ha yeah good logic! At least is Blackpool run riot I will have the save points to fall back on.

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                1. Epic Fail
                  • 15 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  Aye, that's exactly how I see it. Obviously it's not fool proof, but Chelsea hardly ever draw a blank. Blackpool do seem to be a decent attacking force this season, but they are still Blackpool.

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            2. PFOR
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Exact same boat myself. I'm going with Robinson. Chelsea will only score 1 IMO and Robinson will get 2 save points I'd say.

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          • Cooper123
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            I transferred Fabregas in... and kept Malouda, Drogba and Tevez. It feels good.

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            1. Phillips
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Same! Plus Nani 😉

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              1. Cooper123
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Yep me too! Considering I have money to bring in Adam for Routledge this week if he's confirmed fit, our teams will be pretty damn similar

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          • ppp
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Shawcross,Konchesky,Bale,M.Petrov,Tevez
            TO
            Simpson,Bosingwa,Fabs,VdV,Odemwingie

            Worth a wildcard? Would give me

            Nani,VdV,Malouda,Fabs,Adam
            Odemwingie,Drogs,Carroll

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          • Houdini
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Is Torres due to drop tonight, I still havn't figured out all of the abbreviations on the TotalFPL site?

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              1. Clintymints
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Don't think so, he should remain the same price tomorrow

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                1. Houdini
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    I thought anything over 100% on the max column meant they were due to rise/drop unless they are protected, no?

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                    1. Epic Fail
                      • 15 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      The drop section of TFPL hasn't been correct for ages.

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                      1. Houdini
                          15 years, 2 months ago

                          Didn't know this, he is at 119% to drop, how are you meant ot figure out whether he is going to drop or not? According to TotalFPL he is dropping tonight.

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                2. Will
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  Which 2 would you play out of Konchesky/N'zogbia/Albrighton/VDV/Jose Enrique?

                  At the moment I'm on N'zogbia and Enrique.

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                  1. Jax
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    zog and konchesky

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                  2. Jax
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    actually i think fulham will get a win v wigan and not concede, so go for konchesky and enrique...both have winnable games even if pool have been shite.

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                    1. Will
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      Enrique has a good game-the type of game I should either play him in, or transfer him out for a 3.8 mil defender I never play.

                      Konch was probably my 3rd choice-my logic being that N'zog has a chance of an assist, and almost a probablity that he'll pick up BPs.

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                  3. Camzy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    You have to play VdV.

                    ManU have been leaking goals, he could well get something.

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                    1. Will
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      I am loathe to leave him out, but that is one very tough fixture...

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                3. snowman
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  Should i do malouda > Fab for next 2 GW then move him back in?

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                  1. Cooper123
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    Depends how long you've had Malouda, the price difference could kill you

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                  2. Houdini
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      I think that is what most people are planning to do. Problem is if he has a nightmare like Drogba did this week, getting Malouda back in will cost a lot more.

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                      1. snowman
                        • 16 Years
                        15 years, 2 months ago

                        i have had him from gw4 so quite a while

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                        1. Cooper123
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 15 Years
                          15 years, 2 months ago

                          In that case I'd either keep for good or get Fabs for good, not worth the price difference it'd cost you for the sake of 2 games out of 38

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                  3. Only one Di Matteo
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    Is malouda and ethers to fabregas and barton worth an 8 point hit already done oshea to coleman to free funds

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                    1. Cooper123
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 15 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      Depends on whether you think losing Malouda for Fabs is worth it. Scroll few a few pages to read the debates that've raged on here, there is no right answer... yet.

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                  4. Chris Finch - squeal piggy …
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    would you rather lose Tevez or Malouda for Cesc?

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                    1. Will
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      You've got Drogba, so offload FloMo

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                      1. Camzy
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 15 Years
                        15 years, 2 months ago

                        +1

                        That's what I did.

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                  5. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    wc played, and i'm sh*tting it now!

                    it's wiped 1.3mil off my value too, it better pay off!

                    goodnight folks, much love

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                  6. McNulty
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    Price changes not going to affect Nzog > Fabs and Berb > Varney? Not sure how accurate the price change widgets are these days, not very reading a few comments!

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                    1. CravenA
                      • 15 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      Yeah, it's bothering me too. Hovering on getting Fabs in right now while I can afford him.

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                      1. Jordan.
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 15 Years
                        15 years, 2 months ago

                        buy him ,then look at your team,youll feel good

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                        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
                          • 15 Years
                          15 years, 2 months ago

                          it's true! i should sleep well

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                  7. Zidane
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    anyone thinks vdv will remain on pens with defoe on the pitch?

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                    1. PFOR
                      • 15 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      Yes

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                  8. tsharma
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    Hi,
                    Do you think there is a bug difference in quality between varney at 4.5 and harewood at 4.2?

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                  9. David Davros
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    Did it, seeya Drogba - should have done it weeks ago!
                    Convinced i now have the strongest midfield possible, looking a bit lightweight elsewhere though!

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                    1. CravenA
                      • 15 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      What's your forward line? I'm thinking about going for full on 5 midfield demons and sod the rest but will keep Drogba with a couple of budget front men rotating alongside.

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                      1. David Davros
                        • 15 Years
                        15 years, 2 months ago

                        Tevez, Elmander and Carroll.

                        Wasn't happy about getting rid of Drogba but it's the only way i could get Fabs in - and having Malouda i feel a bit cushioned.

                        You can't have all the big players so i suppose i'm just banking that Fabs will be more useful than Drogba from here on out. Expecting a big score from El Capitan this week.

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                        1. CravenA
                          • 15 Years
                          15 years, 2 months ago

                          Think I could shape up for Drog, Elmander, Odemwingie + all star midfield and cheap 'get forward' defence that will get me nothing some weeks and a big bonus on others.

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                  10. CravenA
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    I know, I know but don't want to be forced into wild card when early transfers go t*ts up because of the unforeseen.

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                    1. CravenA
                      • 15 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      This is a reply to jordan that got messed up by FFS busy pop up.

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                      1. Jordan.
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 15 Years
                        15 years, 2 months ago

                        when youve pressed that button u will be rewarded with 5 daysof peace of mind and a warm feeling that u grew a pair....do it

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                        1. CravenA
                          • 15 Years
                          15 years, 2 months ago

                          What you say sounds so right

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                  11. Luke
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    Transferring out Etherington, should I replace with Walcott, Cahill, Arteta, Nasri or other?

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                    1. Just One More Thing
                      • 16 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      In order of preference (if you have other Arsenal coverage: Fabs, Chamakh etc) - Arteta; Cahill; Nasri; Walcott (rotation risk with Nasri out on the right).

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                      1. Luke
                        • 15 Years
                        15 years, 2 months ago

                        No other Arsenal players (bar Sagna) but Walcott is the only one I can afford this week without taking -4pt.

                        I was thinking of Cahill for Etherington and Boss for Evra?

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                  12. pstokes2010
                    • 15 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    i think this wk coming will be a seriously high scoring week! kind of a make or break week.last wk was average for every1.

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                    1. Will
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      15 years, 2 months ago

                      A make or break week??

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                      1. CravenA
                        • 15 Years
                        15 years, 2 months ago

                        Yeah, what's your thinking?

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