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30 June 2014 3919 comments
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We now edge past the halfway point of Matchday 4 after Holland and Costa Rica clinched a place in the last eight yesterday evening. Both France and Germany take to the pitch tonight with the expectations of Fantasy managers weighing firmly on their shoulders – having won their respective groups on the back of two wins and a draw apiece, the unbeaten duo now square up to Nigeria and Algeria for a spot in the quarter-finals:

France: Lloris; Debuchy, Varane, Koscielny, Evra; Pogba, Cabaye, Matuidi;Valbuena, Giroud, Benzema

Nigeria: Enyeama; Ambrose Yobo, Omeruo, Oshaniwa; Mikel, Onazi; Odemwingie, Moses, Musa,; Emenike

After ringing the changes in the final group game against Ecuador, Didier Deschamps makes six alterations to his starting XI for the 5pm kick-off . At the back, only Laurent Koscielny keeps his place as Rafael Varane, Mathieu Debuchy and Patrice Evra come in for Mamadou Sakho, Bacary Sagna and Lucas Digne. Elsewhere, Yohan Cabaye replaces Morgan Schneiderlin in central midfield and Mathieu Valbuena and Olivier Giroud are drafted in for Moussa Sissoko and Antoine Griezmann in the front three.

Karim Benzema will carry the armband hopes for many Fantasy managers this evening as he looks to add to his three goals and two assists so far, whilst Giroud and Valbuena, with a goal and assist apiece, pose a real threat to a backline that conceded three to Argentina last time around.

Stephen Keshi makes one enforced change to the Nigeria XI, with Victor Moses replacing the injured Michael Babatunde in the attacking midfield three. Ahmed Musa is the man in form for the Africans, after scoring twice against Argentina, whilst lone forward Emmanuel Emineke will be looking for his first goal of the tournament, having picked up a pair of assists so far.

At 9pm, Joachim Low’s side go head-to-head with an Algeria side that put four past South Korea and drew against Russia over the group stages. Germany produced two clean sheets in their opening three matches, though there’s no question who is the star of the show so far – with four strikes and an assist accrued, Thomas Muller is the only German player to have played a part in more than one goal. Mesut Ozil has tested his owners’ patience and has failed to deliver any returns, whilst elsewhere in the front three, Mario Gotze is expected to reclaim his starting berth after Lukas Podolski was ruled out through injury.

Having already exceeded expectations, Algeria can afford to play without pressure heading into this one. The only side to find a way past Belgium’s Thibaut Courtois so far, they netted in all three of their group games and have a number of budget form players in the starting line-up – attacking midfield trio Yacine Brahimi, Abdelmoumene Djabou and Sofiane Feghouli have all delivered a goal and assist apiece, whilst Islam Slimani has scored in each of his last two appearances as the lone striker in a 4-2-3-1.

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  1. JT's Dog
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Should get half assists

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      1. The Sarjeant
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        Are you backing anyone as first goal scorer in this match?

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        1. JT's Dog
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Muller, but all my bets went down with benzama
            Tempted by mert AGS

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        2. Woy of the Wovers
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          That would be a way to reduce controversy in FF world.

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      2. The Sarjeant
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        Do you think Suarez was bitten a lot as a kid?

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        1. Woy of the Wovers
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          No

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        2. Pedram
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          I think he was molested.

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          1. bazrah99
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            Oof

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      3. Smarty Pants
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        I only had Hummels, Bentaleb, and Djabou for this game... I feel naked now.

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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          and ronh is actually naked now

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        2. Woy of the Wovers
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          Fully armoured here with Müller and Neuer.

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
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            Thats double stacking

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        3. FPL Daniel
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          will try. some recovery balls, who knows what is gonna happen. cheers man i have all of them too

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        4. JT's Dog
            11 years, 7 months ago

            That's bad luck

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        5. FPL Daniel
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          Damn no Hummels and Bentaleb. I have Lacen/ He plays right? Is he worth to get in for a 5 pter?

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          1. LewanGOALski
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            as he's playing I'd twist

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        6. LewanGOALski
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          2 x 5 pts on my pitch. Along with Halliche who may get sth similar or less.

          Tomorrow I have 3 players - Rojo, ADM, Messi

          should I switch 1 x 5 pts to Djabou or Bentaleb, who are not starting..?

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        7. Captain Shirokov
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          Brad Friedel on the RTE panel 🙂

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        8. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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          really low def scores so far..... blind 6, manolas 5, duarte 4............hope the germans and argies can do better

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          1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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            and algies

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        9. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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          Why does Suarez not just stick his studs in the back of opposition calves? It's far less frowned upon and actually does some damage.

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          1. Count of Monte Hristo
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            He prefers to do the biting and force a move to a new club

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            1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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              I don't think that's it, CoMH. Last time did it we weren't even near a transfer window.

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          2. Vote Joke
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            Because he doesn't think but acts on impulse. That's the problem.

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            1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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              I'd rather he does neither. But I don't get how there's more indignation at this than, for example, when Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg.

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              1. GreenWindmill
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                • 14 Years
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                Shawcross has making an attempt to play the ball and mistimed his challenge with terrible results - he was rightly punished but not as severely as I've simply executed a legitimate part of the game with insufficient skill.

                What Suarez did was completely without justification in any context hence the outcry.

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                1. GreenWindmill
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  *he not "I've"

                  Fat thumbs, a mobile device with autocorrect and a few Sauvignon Blancs don't make for accurate typing.

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                2. GreenWindmill
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                  Also "was" not "has"

                  Might be time for me to stop posting for the evening 😆

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                3. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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                  Can see where you're coming from and found myself nodding along in parts. I'm still not convinced it was entirely due to insufficient skill though. And at this level, where you're paid as much as he is, is lack of skill a good enough excuse? Like I say, I see where you're coming from but if the victim is crying for a reduced punishment...

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                  1. GreenWindmill
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                    • 14 Years
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                    Fair comment, he's definitely receiving additional punishment for being a repeat offender. Perhaps the same would have happened had Shawcross broken a couple more legs in the same way in the few years after his initial offence. Probably not though.

                    I'll be honest, I don't like Suarez as a result of his fairly obvious character flaws but I'm pretty indifferent to his punishment - it's the bare faced denial of wrongdoing that really sticks in my craw. I just don't know how he can do it!

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                    1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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                      Why must you talk so much sense 😆 You'd think having been banned for such periods previously for biting someone, you'd stop biting people. The more I think about it the harder it is to have sympathy with him. Can't see it being reduced anyway. Just hope he sorts himself out before this is what he's remembered for.

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                      1. GreenWindmill
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
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                        😆 Enjoy it, it doesn't happen often!

                        He's certainly on the cusp and it will always stay with him - up to him whether it's the main thing he's remembered for or just a side note to a brilliant career.

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          3. GreenWindmill
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            If he did it unprovoked and off the ball it's still pretty much a no-no 😉

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            1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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              Completely agree GreenWindmill. It looks like I'm defending him when at truth I just think he has something wrong with him. I don't get why people are getting quite so worked up about it though when Chiellini himself uas asked for the ban to be reduced.

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              1. GreenWindmill
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                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                To be fair, Chiellini's opinion is interesting but not necessarily relevant, I don't actually have a strong opinion on the severity of the ban in the first place, although I'd be mightily tempted to increase it every time he comes out with another farcical denial!

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                1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
                  • 13 Years
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                  Granted, the excuses are a complete joke. He doesn't seem to realize it's all on camera. But 4 months when all Chiellini has to show for it is a reddened shoulder?! I think it's extreme.

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              2. GreenWindmill
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                And agreed, he definitely has a genuine problem. A real sadness if he doesn't have it addressed.

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                1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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                  This is the overriding factor for me. More important than when he can and when he can't play football - he needs help.

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                  1. GreenWindmill
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                    He needs to accept that for it to happen though, I fear he simply believes he's being victimised rather than recognising he's the architect of his own problems. I wonder what those around him (agent, team mates, managers) tell him...

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          4. potatoace
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            with teeth like that it seems a shame not to use them.

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        10. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
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          Varane and Debuchy 14 pts juhuuuuu, get in !@@@!!!

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          1. Belli2007
            • 15 Years
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            nice, as defender scores have been low

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          2. Keno
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            There should still be another point for Varane for achieving over 80% passing acc also, still waiting for it.

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        11. FPL Daniel
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          11 years, 7 months ago

          anyone knows the pts for Evra and Kosc..?

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          1. JT's Dog
              11 years, 7 months ago

              Evra got 8

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          2. LewanGOALski
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Germany and Algeria have played twice against each other. Algeria has won both games.

            😯

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          3. Saniul
            • 13 Years
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            Go Algeria.

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          4. Count of Monte Hristo
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Does anyone know how phone companies work when it comes to upgrades? Is it wide open in terms of haggling for the best deal? Any tips that have worked for you in the past?

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            1. Belli2007
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              if you are sticking with same company then just threaten to move to another network and they will deal

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            2. pompeyfan
              • 16 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              Depends where you live. I always found calling up and asking for my pac code seemed to work a treat.

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              1. JT's Dog
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  This

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              2. r0nh
                • 14 Years
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                Phone them, tell them u want to cancel your contract with them, assuming your contract is coming to an end.

                They will put you through to a different department, they will ask why u want to leave them, just say u can get better value elsewhere.

                Then, BOOM, they cut your bill in half.

                You're welcome 😎

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                1. applebonkers
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                  damn, need to try this. i guess it makes sense, half of your money is better than none of your money, extra costs for them are minimal

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                  1. r0nh
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                    Worked for me, now I pay £10 a month 😎

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                    1. Count of Monte Hristo
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                      I currently pay £11 a month on O2 with unlimited texts and calls as I have been with them for over 10 years.

                      I just want to get a good handset and monthly tariff so I will be sure to implement these strategies 😉

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                2. pompeyfan
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                  Yep, the department they transfer you through to will be called retentions or something.

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              3. bazrah99
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                Tell them you are leaving before you ask for an upgrade. You will get the best possible deal if they think it is last chance saloon.

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              4. JT's Dog
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  Try more than once with company, their flexibility changes depending on time of month and person.
                  Ask to get put through to cancellation, but have other deal as back up

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                  1. Count of Monte Hristo
                    • 12 Years
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                    Have another deal from a different provider as back up?

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                • Fantasy Gold
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  Tell them you have had poor signal and problems getting through to customer service in the past. Mention one of their competitors has offered you a much better deal. Sit back, relax and watch them squirm.

                  They'll put you on hold, talk to the manager and offer you a better deal. Easy game.

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                  1. Count of Monte Hristo
                    • 12 Years
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                    😎

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              5. The Sarjeant
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                How many points on you so far in McDonald's? 75 here.

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              6. The Shadow
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                FantasyFootballScout is really dominating the McD leader board. I'm #11 in the Scout league and #16 in the world. If my math is right. 11 of the top 16 in the world come from here?

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              7. Mr Sarcastic
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Wishlist for tonight.
                One miracle.
                Thanks.

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              8. applebonkers
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                • 16 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                any other neutrals supporting germany? don't know why but i have zero interest in the underdog this time

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                1. The Enlightener
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                  I'm half German in terms of ancestry (other half Italian).....so, while I support the U.S. team first and foremost, I tend to have some rooting interest for both the German and Italian outfits. So, go Germany!

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                2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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                  im supportin em........i love ze germans 😎

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                3. chrisjdgrady
                  • 12 Years
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                  Yep I generally like the German players and I wanna see Per and Ozil do well =p

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              9. chrisjdgrady
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Ugh I thought we had Algerias lineup earlier including Bentaleb starting? Come onnn

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                1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
                  • 14 Years
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                  i was hopin to play bentaleb and djabou 😕

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              10. Beavis
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                This Liverpool conspiracy theory has to be one of the funniest things trending at the moment!

                https://twitter.com/DoronSalomon/status/483697138732638210

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                1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
                  • 14 Years
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                  oh dear

                  nice change of grav cornholio btw

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                  1. Beavis
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                    Are you threatening me? 😀

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                    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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                      i just thought you could do with some tp for your bunghole

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                      1. teddy.
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 16 Years
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                        Heeheeheehee... Yeh!

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              11. tm245
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                I need either Bentaleb or Mesbah to score six.

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              12. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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                jeez i really loaded up with algies......... mbolhi, mesbah, halliche, bentaleb, djabou

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                1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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                  shame only 2 are starting

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                2. GuyIncognito
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                  They're cheapo enablers, I'm more annoyed that the players they enabled have done nothing so far.

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                  1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
                    • 14 Years
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                    indeed

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              13. Arvin-ation
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                No 2 assists for Valbuena on FOX? :/

                My main differential, gets two assists, not awarded......

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                1. Saniul
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  They will, later.
                  I mailed them, and they have said they will award it at the next update.

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                  1. Konig Luther
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 7 months ago

                    both assists?

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                  2. Arvin-ation
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
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                    Not sure if serious, but definitely hoping so. Would push me up the ranks 😀

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              14. r0nh
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                2-0 Germany

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                1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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                  already......they are efficient

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                2. Bøwstring The Carp
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                  You spelt Algeria wrong 😉

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                  1. Reedy
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                    You spelt Alemagne wrong 😉

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                    1. Reedy
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                      *Allemagne lol

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              15. Judas
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                take out Blind (6pts) to bring in Halliche?

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                1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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                  hmmmm i like 6 pts as a base stick score......... plus cant see a cleansheet there.......no one else you can take out or formation?

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                2. bazrah99
                  • 16 Years
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                  If you have a plan B then yes

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              16. r0nh
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                People care more about getting themselves on the telly, than the football 😆

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                1. The Bandit
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                  Bloody attention seekers eh?

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                  1. r0nh
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                    It's only ok if they are attractive women.

                    Or me.

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              17. RÏɠBY
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                if nico's not singing it the german anthem is a derge
                the algerian is quite jolly and reminds me of spit roast goat..

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              18. Bøwstring The Carp
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                Can't believe I took Evra out earlier forgetting about the CS to be added 🙁 rookie mistake Bow, rookie mistake.... 😕

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              19. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                352.

                A cunnibg ploy. 😉

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              20. Parm
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Oh Hummels, man up!

                I have Halliche coming off the bench in Fox now, not cool.

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              21. The Bandit
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                If the quality of the football is as different between the teams as the anthems, Germany will run up a cricket score 🙂

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                1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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                  lol i love tiddleypom anthems

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