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13 July 2014 2625 comments
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A month of thrilling football culminates this evening as Germany and Argentina take to the pitch in the 2014 World Cup Final. Many Fantasy mini-leagues are on the line tonight as Joachim Low’s free-scoring side square up to one of the most resilient backlines in the tournament so far:

Germany: Neuer; Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Howedes; Khedira, Schweinsteiger; Muller, Kroos, Ozil; Klose

Argentina: Romero; Zabaleta, Garay, Demichelis, Rojo; Biglia, Mascherano; Perez, Messi, Lavezzi; Higuain

Low makes one late change to the XI that started the 7-1 rout of Brazil, with Christoph Kramer replacing Sami Khedira in central midfield. Mats Hummels has recovered from the knee problem that forced him off at the break last time around, then, while Miroslav Klose leads the line for the third successive match. Thomas Muller carries the hopes of many Fantasy managers into this one after serving up five goals and a trio of assists so far, whilst Toni Kroos’ double against the Brazilians has earned him plenty of new owners across the Fantasy games. Elsewhere in attack, Klose is gunning for his third of the campaign after breaking the World Cup Finals scoring record last week, though Low also has the option of Andre Schurrle off the bench, with the Chelsea man notching three times already.

Alejandro Sabella’s side is also unaltered from the semi-finals. Martin Demichelis gets the nod ahead of Federico Fernandez in the heart of defence once again, while Enzo Perez and Ezequiel Lavezzi are handed another start due to injury concerns over Angel di Maria and Sergio Aguero – the latter is likely to appear off the bench again, though. The South Americans have delivered four clean sheets in their last five matches and Sabella’s defence has been subject to heavy Fantasy investment as the returns dry up for Lionel Messi. It’s now three games without a goal for the Barcelona man now, who has looked lethargic for his country over the knockout matches – when it matters most of all, can he deliver?

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  1. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    sun player ratings:

    boateng 7, hummels 6, higuain 7, aguero 6

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      Higuain 7... brilliant, comedy genius that.

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    2. Piggs Boson
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      What a joke.

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  2. Smarty Pants
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    Who recovered Golden Ball?

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    1. Walsh
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      Messi

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  3. Long Juan Silva
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    Isn't what Gotze has done tonight the stuff that dreams are made of? 😀

    Scoring the winning goal for you country in the World Cup Final, we've all fantasised about it (many, many times!)

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    1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      I've done it!

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        🙄

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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          What?

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          1. Fifa las vegas
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            What you!? Gimme your lunch money, or I'll pound the brians outa ya 😉

            Waits for, 'he's been bullying me for weeks now'

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            1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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              FLV is bullying me 🙁 it's been going on for weeks.

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              1. Fifa las vegas
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                😛

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            2. Woy of the Wovers
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              Shit for brians!!!

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    2. applebonkers
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      pretty much. i would have basically just run away and kept running, run half the way across the town just screaming

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        I'd just be leaping around the place, swinging my arms all obverse the shop and roar my head off! They'd think I was mad! Just wouldn't be able to contain myself 🙂

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  4. Limbo Exile
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    Could anyone screencap final standing in McDonalds/Azerbaijan? I can't access the page, I get 404

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    1. Smarty Pants
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      doesn't work for me either, patience

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    2. CellinoArmy
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      Same, i believe it's down as they finalise things.

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      1. Limbo Exile
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        Cheers

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  5. CellinoArmy
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    Scores just changed on Mc D, +1 to boateng and lahm for me.

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    1. Root
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      Nothing for Hummels?

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      1. Smarty Pants
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        12 points now

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        1. CellinoArmy
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          what..hummels went down..

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          1. Smarty Pants
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            I think he was on 11 points before...

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            1. CellinoArmy
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              Oh ok, i read before 14 on someone's comment

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        2. Root
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          What was it previously?

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      2. CellinoArmy
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        didn't have hummels, had 3 dutchmen in defence and two germans

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      3. Jebus Saves
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        Got an extra 3 points. Think one was for Hummels.

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        1. Jebus Saves
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          Think Hummels went from 11 to 12..

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    2. Valar(Keith)
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      mine's still the same for some reason

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Hummels Garay Boateng all plus 1

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        1. Root
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          Exciting stuff. Can't wait for them to finalize ML rankings!

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  6. Root
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    Points updating in McD

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  7. Woy of the Wovers
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    Where are all the RMTs?

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    1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
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      Oh god. You've just reminded me what it's going to be like on here when the game actually opens...

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  8. NED KELLY
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    Thank god mcfantasy is over! never again

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    1. iCon
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      Mcloved it in the end 😀

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      1. CellinoArmy
        • 12 Years
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        I have to agree, shambles to begin, but turned put great, UFPL has same rules with subs so should be fun.

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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          But with a much bigger bench

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          1. CellinoArmy
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            yeah, but no season transfers so will be tough to pick in first 4 rounds.

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    2. Smarty Pants
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      See you in 2 years for McUefa 😉

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  9. Bubz
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    The bookies must be fuming at that Messi Golden Ball decision

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
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      They can give back some of the money they won during the tournament.

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      1. Bubz
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        If only it was to me

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    2. The Bandit
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      Blatters bookie has gone bust

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  10. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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    Squawka Football @Squawka ·
    Lionel Messi has created more chances (19) than any other player at the 2014 World Cup. #ARG

    Is he getting too much stick? His goals got them out of the group and his assists through the knock-out games

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    1. Bubz
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      His attacking teammates didn't help him out much. But he did seem a bit lacklustre in the knockout stages.

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      1. Jimmers
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        Never scored a goal in the knockout stages of a WC

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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          Ronaldo has scored 2 WC goals in his life.

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      2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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        yeah he didn't deserve to win it but likewise he doesn't deserve all the criticism either

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    2. applebonkers
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      he technically wasn't even a striker. but when that one chance did come you hope a player as good as him scores it

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      1. applebonkers
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        (not the free kick at the end. that's a thing i noticed last season, skying a shot over the ar late on is way way way way more damaging than doing exactly the same in the first half for example)

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    3. NED KELLY
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      Ok I take my rant back he is better than Maradona!

      I just want him to score 5 goals every game

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    4. Obi Wan Elokobi
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      As did James Rodriguez and Mullers. Also Mascherano deserved it more than Messi for Argentina.

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    5. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      He doesn't deserve it. I think he'd still be getting a lot of stick even if he did though. The problem is the Ronaldo vs Messi debate and being a UK based site the majority are going to hate Messi as he's the one of the two that didn't play for Man Utd.

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      1. Zasa
        • 11 Years
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        Even the Argentinians here in Chile think he doesn't deserve it. Seems pretty unanimous that no one though he deserved it, apart from WhoScored...

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  11. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Thanks McDs up to 101

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  12. Woy of the Wovers
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    Another 0-0 comes in. Been a nice little earner for me.

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    1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
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      Germany winners pre-WC for me. 🙂

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  13. Keepergirl
    • 11 Years
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    Thanks for all the help and advice 🙂
    300k after 1st round, and with your help finished 2k.
    May need to have a look at FPL...

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
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      FPL is the main event. You are now officially addicted to fantasy football

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      1. Keepergirl
        • 11 Years
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        Sadly yes

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      2. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
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        Tell me about it. It's like drugs (seriously)

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      3. Shipstontrev
        • 16 Years
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        8 seasons in there is no escape.

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    2. The Bandit
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      You don't play FPL?! 😯

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      1. Keepergirl
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        Not yet

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        1. Fifa las vegas
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          If you want any sort of a normal life, don't start 😉

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          1. Keepergirl
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            That's what I'm thinking
            It's a little 24/7 isn't it?

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            1. Snikii
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              not really 24 hours a week tops

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  14. Fantasy Gold
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    FPL, where art thou ?

    Surely somebody on here knows the website owner....give him a nudge!

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  15. Fifa las vegas
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    Anyone have a like to that image of the sun behind the Christ the king statue? Was an amazing image.

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      Christ the redeemer actually.
      *just some Brazilian monument*

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        😳 big mistake, sorry. Any link?

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        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
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          What? to the actual picture?
          or this
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_the_Redeemer_%28statue%29

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          1. Fifa las vegas
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            The actual one

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    2. Fantasy Gold
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      Yeah beautiful

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
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        Apart from that bloody great statue in the way.

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    3. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
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      Love it myself. Prefer it when it's lit up looking over the Maracana. 😎

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  16. Woy of the Wovers
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    Is Jarvis a must-have now?

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    1. Fifa las vegas
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      😯 F no!

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    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Always has been for me.
      (maybe that's why I'm kack at FF?)

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    3. Fantasy Gold
      • 11 Years
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      Eh? Since when?

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
        • 15 Years
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        He scored pre-season.

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        1. Fifa las vegas
          • 13 Years
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          One pre season (pre season!!) goal makes him essential?

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          1. Woy of the Wovers
            • 15 Years
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            Until the next pre-season goal,yes.

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    4. Valar(Keith)
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      nope.. Jimmy Bullard is still the only must have. even when he's not in the premier league

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      1. Shipstontrev
        • 16 Years
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        I take your Bullard and raise you Sylvain Ebanks-Blake

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
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          i take your SEB and raise you Giovanni..
          SEB did score me a couple goals tbh. so i do have fond memories of him even though he was a megafail in most respects

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          1. Shipstontrev
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            Who was the Wigan mega fail again? SEB helped me there, I never went near him .

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            1. Shipstontrev
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              Boselli

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  17. applebonkers
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    in my lifetime the golden ball winner has never had a good final. it's also always been a player who at least made it to the 3rd place playoff.
    trouble is messi had a nothing semi too, he excelled in a pretty poor group if we're all honest

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    1. applebonkers
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      or am i being harsh on iran, bosnia & h and nigeria

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    2. Walsh
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      Completely right, AB. Wonder how much is put into the player actually being there to receive the award after the finals. Tough to pick it out of someone from Germany though. Maybe Boateng. Could have been Lahm if he played RB the whole tournament. Can't really give the award to a GK...

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    3. The Bandit
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      Excelled? Scored some goals but did little else if we're all honest.

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      1. Snikii
        • 11 Years
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        21 chances created 4 goals and 1 assist 12 tacles from your forward is excelled!

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    4. Long Juan Silva
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      Personally think the criticism of him is unfair. He was singled out and marshalled by pretty much every opposition team. He didn't look fully fit and I can only imagine the unbelievable pressure he was under. People kept saying he couldn't be considered as good as Maradona if he didn't win a world cup, but Maradona played in a much superior Argentina team.

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  18. Valar(Keith)
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    What points are Baoteng, lahm n garay on? My mcds not updating 🙂

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    1. Walsh
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      14, 8, 8

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      1. Valar(Keith)
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        cheers.. i can go to sleep now 🙂 ..

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    2. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
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      14, 8, 8

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    3. Valar(Keith)
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      is it 14, 8 and 8? been that way since i checked 10 mins ago with no increase as mentioned above

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  19. Demí
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    So with 1425 days till the World Cup, has anyone got a template team i can copy? Just Bale and Januzaj who are currently nailed on for me.

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
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      Wales qualified 😯

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      1. DaveZubie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        He switched to Brazil using a little known rule introduced in 3.5 years time

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      Bale won't play WC. No chance

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      1. Demí
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        Would love to see him and Ramsey at the World Cup surrounded by 9 duds.

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        1. GuyIncognito
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          We have a good starting XI, the problem is that when there are injuries there is no one to take their place (which is why Wales fans are celebrating Chester and Dummett declaring their availability as a massive coup).

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    3. Epic Fail
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      Not enough recovered balls for Jan.

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    4. Piggs Boson
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      You've got to have the world's best player at the time, Danny Welbeck.

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    5. Espi
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      11x North Koreans

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    6. Parm
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      • 13 Years
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      Igorushinov seems like a good bet for Russia.

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    7. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
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      Clasie/strootman. Bookmark it 😉

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  20. FPL Daniel
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    Jerome BOATENG captain 28 Pts

    Even better genius 😛

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    1. The Bandit
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      Someone else posted the same thing earlier. Oh wait, it was you

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
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      boateng believers deserve reward

      boalievers

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    3. Gnu
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      He's not the genuis, he's a very naughty troll.

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  21. Piggs Boson
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    Adebayor is out of Tottenham's pre-season tour of North America after catching Malaria
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28287973

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    1. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
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      How does Malaria feel about this? o.O

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      1. Keepergirl
        • 11 Years
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        Going to Seattle v Spurs game Saturday
        Was hoping to see him up close
        15 rows behind Spurs bench.

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    2. Valar(Keith)
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      Damn.. was gonna be one of the first names on my teamsheet dependin on price. Eriksen it is

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  22. shazzaaam
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    Who in your opinion were the best 3 players in the tournament?

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
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      Muller, Neuer, Messi.

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    2. Epic Fail
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      Vlaar
      Neuer
      Mbolhi

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    3. Demí
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      James Rodriguez, Arjen Robben and Javier Mascherano

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      1. Demí
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        Urgh, feels wrong not to have a German player given they won. Just so hard to pick a stand-out

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    4. applebonkers
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      robben, james, kroos

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    5. Bøwstring The Carp
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      The three M's

      Mascherano, Muller, Mbolhi

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    6. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
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      James Rodriguez
      Kroos
      Mascherano

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  23. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    How the hell did Messi win Golden Ball?

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  24. Gnu
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    Evening Ca'pn. 🙂

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    1. Shipstontrev
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      Evening Gnu. How many did you get this time? I have 107.

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      1. Gnu
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        114 looks like.

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        1. Shipstontrev
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          Great score again. I reckon you!re going to do very well in UFPL again this year.

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          1. Gnu
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            Cheers, possibly found a game I might be good at 🙂

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  25. applebonkers
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    have a feeling we'll forget all about messi in a couple of mins

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  26. Keepergirl
    • 11 Years
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    Please tell me McD's leader board will be updated!
    NEED to know if I'm still #1 in Aruba and American Samoa 🙂

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  27. Bøwstring The Carp
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    I reckon FPL will be out around the 21st. Might be a bit later with the WC and that?

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  28. DaveZubie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
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    Speaking of Adebayor - are there any players you really don't want to bring into your team next year?

    (Adebayor is good but sooo frustrating)

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  29. Del Monte
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    • 13 Years
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    Martin has given me confirmation, FPL will open tonight.

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
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      who the hell is martin. demichelis?

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        O'Neill

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      2. HVT
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        Buchanan-legend.

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      3. Del Monte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
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        Martin Axford, head of FPL

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    2. HVT
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      Juju!

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