Dugout Discussion

World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 7, Day 2

A month of thrilling football culminates this evening as Germany and Argentina take to the pitch in the 2014 World Cup Final. Many Fantasy mini-leagues are on the line tonight as Joachim Low’s free-scoring side square up to one of the most resilient backlines in the tournament so far:

Germany: Neuer; Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Howedes; Khedira, Schweinsteiger; Muller, Kroos, Ozil; Klose

Argentina: Romero; Zabaleta, Garay, Demichelis, Rojo; Biglia, Mascherano; Perez, Messi, Lavezzi; Higuain

Low makes one late change to the XI that started the 7-1 rout of Brazil, with Christoph Kramer replacing Sami Khedira in central midfield. Mats Hummels has recovered from the knee problem that forced him off at the break last time around, then, while Miroslav Klose leads the line for the third successive match. Thomas Muller carries the hopes of many Fantasy managers into this one after serving up five goals and a trio of assists so far, whilst Toni Kroos’ double against the Brazilians has earned him plenty of new owners across the Fantasy games. Elsewhere in attack, Klose is gunning for his third of the campaign after breaking the World Cup Finals scoring record last week, though Low also has the option of Andre Schurrle off the bench, with the Chelsea man notching three times already.

Alejandro Sabella’s side is also unaltered from the semi-finals. Martin Demichelis gets the nod ahead of Federico Fernandez in the heart of defence once again, while Enzo Perez and Ezequiel Lavezzi are handed another start due to injury concerns over Angel di Maria and Sergio Aguero – the latter is likely to appear off the bench again, though. The South Americans have delivered four clean sheets in their last five matches and Sabella’s defence has been subject to heavy Fantasy investment as the returns dry up for Lionel Messi. It’s now three games without a goal for the Barcelona man now, who has looked lethargic for his country over the knockout matches – when it matters most of all, can he deliver?

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  1. applebonkers
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    they should add £1 to the prize pot for every minute people can resist signing up to fpl when it opens

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    1. applebonkers
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      the entire world collectively abstaining whilst the prize pool rises over £1k before suddenly the money stops rising. suddenly someone posts on FFS, "juuuuhuuuuu ID1 bitches!"

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      1. Snikii
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        great story, tell me more

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        1. applebonkers
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          the whole site starts ranting and raving at him, tensions are high.
          then suddenly he says, "the prize only matters if you win."
          a collective "good point well made" sweeps the board and tensions are eased, some even have a giggle.
          fast forward 10 months and he ends up winning fpl and has to make do with a fairly small prize. everyone laughs

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          1. JT's Dog
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Guy Richie phones lawyer due to AB steeling his next script

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              1. JT's Dog
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                  *stealing

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          2. Cheeseoid
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            4am every morning it crashes until then

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          Good, 12p first prize then?

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      2. The Machine
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        Most undeserving Golden Ball award, ever.

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        1. Van Dal
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          You wont get any bites at this time.

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          1. The Machine
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            what bites? you actually think he excelled in any of the games that mattered?

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        2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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          tell me about it...

          robben muller JAMES!! all much better

          even neuer deserved it more, he was sublime

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          1. Van Dal
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            Who got it?

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            1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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              messi

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          2. The Machine
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            Don't really agree. James made it to QFs, beating pretty crap opponents. Robben (like AB said), Lahm or even Mascherano imo

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            1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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              im not saying james should have won it but he played brilliantly...the trouble is defenders/defensive midfielders are disadvantaged in these types of things...robben yes was excellent...

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              1. The Machine
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                Ahh ok fair enough. Read it wrong

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            2. RedLightning
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              Colombia would have made it to the semi if it hadn't been for the ref in the Brazil match. And they'd have given Germany a much better match than Brazil did too.

              FIFA had probably decided before the competition began that the award would go to Messi or Neymar provided that they reached the final.

              If the winner had to be someone who played in the final then they should have given it to Neuer or Muller, but I would have given it to James.

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              1. Frank Black
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                The ref in the Brazil match? Are you aware of the fact that the ref was actually pro Colombia in that match? And that Brazil played their best game against Colombia? Put down the pint, you're completely drunk.

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                1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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                  Actuallyyyy...the freekick Luiz scored was a result of the ref giving James a yellow card for trying to make a tackle where he missed the ball but more importantly didn't touch anyone. Luiz dived.

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                2. RedLightning
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                  The ref took no action when James was repeatedly fouled by Brazil, then gave him an undeserved yellow card.

                  I got the impression that he was afraid to upset the home crowd and allow Brazil to lose, although the latter decision might have been an honest mistake.

                  It was a great free kick by Luiz, but Colombia might have won if James had been treated better by the ref.

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        3. applebonkers
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          mourinho reckoned robben, and for once i agree with the guy

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          1. Snikii
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            so did Wenger

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            1. applebonkers
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              always agree with that man

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              1. Snikii
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                very level headed man, mourinho is more capable of saying stuff that even he does not agree with, so i try not to listen that much

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        4. Sif
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          Wow, just seen this. What a fix!

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            Who got it?

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            1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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              messi

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              1. In Like Flynn.
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                😯

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              2. In Like Flynn.
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                May as well have given it to Rooney.

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      3. Van Dal
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        So 4am?

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        1. Cheeseoid
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          allegedly. Believe it when I see it

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          1. FRESH SLICE
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            You're not even joking are you?

            People pull this stunt about 5 or 6 times every season! Won't be up for another week yet.

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      4. Cheeseoid
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        Quite tempted to go to Macdonalds...

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      5. The Machine
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        This 4am opening is all rubbish btw, for those wondering

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        1. Cheeseoid
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          Of course it is. Everyone says it every day

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        2. applebonkers
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          rubbish. apparently axford has been called into the office for a night shift

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        3. The Machine
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          Remember some guy staying up all night last year after some guy on here spread the rumour. Crazy stuff if true

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          1. JT's Dog
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              You suggesting I shouldn't be camped outside premier league headquarters at the moment to be first to register ?

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              1. applebonkers
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                lol imagine that, like apple store openings, or them launching a new iphone

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            • RedLightning
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              Quite a few stayed up all night a few years ago the first time this stunt was pulled.

              AP was the instigator of the rumour, and he wasn't exactly very popular the next morning when he revealed that it was just a hoax!

              The 4 a.m. launch time has been a regular joke ever since.

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          2. vova
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            Of course it is, the opening is clearly at 4.45am

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        4. Snikii
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          quick Q, Were the proces that somebody posted earlier the real deal or no?

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          1. Snikii
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            prices*

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          2. The Machine
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            No

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            1. Snikii
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              9 years, 9 months ago

              cheers, was thinkig of starting a draft team because i am very bored atm

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              1. The Machine
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                caught me off guard to, until i realized what a poor piece of trolling it was. He spel it "fansaty"

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          3. In Like Flynn.
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            Worth a look at the Sky prices Snikii if you want a rough guide to FPL's.

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            1. Snikii
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              I checked them out and did not like what i saw, prefer the real deal.

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              1. In Like Flynn.
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                🙂 I think with one or two huge exceptions they're usually within .5, if you've seen them you're about ready to pick a team then. 😉

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                1. Snikii
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                  ok RVP,hazard,ramsey,chelsea defender,Cp defender eriksen, city defender,sot attacker, barkley fodder fodder fodder i am done

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                  1. In Like Flynn.
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                    Should see you through to the end of the season.

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          4. applebonkers
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            the twitter account was fake

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            1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
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              I believe you started all this 4 am business

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              1. RedLightning
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                The original was started by AP a few years ago, not AB. His grav was Alan Partridge.

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        5. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
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          Right boys. I'm back for another 4am mission. Tonight I can feel it

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          1. Walsh
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            Welcome to the DZ. It's just 5:30 local time here for me 😉 No problem waiting to see the FPL site not go live again this evening.

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        6. The Machine
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          Who won the WC Uefa thingy?

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          1. Jebus Saves
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            An American lad called Frip69....he posts here sometimes.

            Only 19 points behind in 9th 😉

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            1. Frip
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              hi, I'll try to be more regular. It's MLS season so I'm just sticking with mls fantasy til fpl opens

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          2. Walsh
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            Team Nigeria beat Team Netherlands 4-1 I think.

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          3. Cheeseoid
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            North Korea

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        7. Sif
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          Bang on 300th overall in game, pleased with that. Well done to all who played, better or worse.

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        8. Cheeseoid
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          RMT

          Begovic - Green
          Dawson - Chester - S Reid (Burnley) - Ward - Cahill
          Cabella - Hazard - Mata - Bacuna - Eriksen
          RVP - Costa - Jelavic

          Probably will need to shave a bit off of that midfield

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          1. Snikii
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            9 years, 9 months ago

            lose mata and would go with long instead of jely

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            1. Cheeseoid
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              I think I agree on the Mata thing. Will see how preseason pans out for Jellyfish and Long

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              1. Snikii
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                9 years, 9 months ago

                there is alot of talk about this Trippier lad Rb for Burnley 14 assists last season and 2 goals new Colman maybe

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                1. Cheeseoid
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                  Interesting. 3 goals from 107 matches according to Wikipedia. Could be a lot worse for bench fodder defender

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                  1. Snikii
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                    he might be on set-pieces just cant see how he assisted 14 times

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                    1. Cheeseoid
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                      Probably this

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          2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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            and it begins....

            😉

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            1. Walsh
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              Who are you and where is ShawX?

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              1. Cheeseoid
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                Not going to double up on stoke defence just yet

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              2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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                im back 🙂

                the DZ went mental that day...we were very, very bored 😀

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                1. Walsh
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                  😉

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            2. Cheeseoid
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              This is how bored I am

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          3. In Like Flynn.
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            How much do you think Cabella will be Cheeseoid?

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            1. Cheeseoid
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              7.5 maybe

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              1. Cheeseoid
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                Scored a goal every 4 games for Montpaellier. Newcastle have a decent early season think will be worth a punt if not too much

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          4. Walsh
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            Don't think you will be able to afford that with 100m at first glance.

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            1. Cheeseoid
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              Yeah. Shaved a bit off with a few cheaper players but prob not enough.

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              1. Walsh
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                If you want that lot of mids and forwards I think you would have to go uber at the back to be able to fund it.

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          5. money face bandwagon
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            Haha ur team way too ex. A more realistic team would be lyk below

            Green mcgregor
            Dann shaw shawx williams qpr def
            Fab eriksen tadic arnautovic 4.5
            Rvp sanchez austin

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            1. Cheeseoid
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              It is tricky without a price guide. Think you have gone a bit to much the other way mind.

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              1. money face bandwagon
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                Haha hopefully u are right! Anyway just a few days more

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          6. FRESH SLICE
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            DDG - 4.0
            Cahill - Dawson - CRY - HUL - Trippier
            Ramsey - Nasri - Eriksen - Barkley - Arnautovic
            RVP - Bony - 6.0

            10 + 23.5 + 40 + 26.5

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            1. Snikii
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              10.5 + 25.5 + 41 + 27 = 104 imo

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              1. FRESH SLICE
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                Think I'm a tad optimistic, and you a little over there. Probably somewhere in between.

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                1. Snikii
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                  agree, but would you \ actually be happy with this team? I dont think so

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          7. jagshmash
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            dont forget the new star of the epl... drinkwater...

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        9. Frip
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          What a day wow, can't believe I ended up #1 in McD's. Love that Germany won it all as well 😀
          Got lots of good advice on here 🙂 so... when does FPL open? 😆

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          1. Poppa
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            4am obviously

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          2. The Machine
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            if this is true, congrats man!, any prizes?

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          3. In Like Flynn.
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            Brilliantly done Frip. Congratulations. 😀

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          4. Walsh
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            Good on you Frip. Congrats. According to this site FPL opens every day at 4 am British local time until it actually opens.

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          5. Gnu
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            Wow, well done bud, have McD's confirmed prize with you yet? 🙂

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          6. Jebus Saves
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            Congrats Frip!

            Who was in your final team?

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          7. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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            congrats frip! 🙂

            whats your prize?

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            1. Jebus Saves
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              Prize for first is a KIa Soul.

              not too shabby at all...

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              1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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                wow! frip you are a lucky man! 🙂

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                1. Frip
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                  thank you!

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        10. Poppa
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          Hey guys! Who is ready for the 4am kick-off then?

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        11. In Like Flynn.
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          I know the fashion is for H/A rotation. Does anyone else here feel that fixture rotation has better potential?

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          1. Poppa
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            Yes, strength of the opposition is more important than home advantage IMO.

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          2. Walsh
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            Maybe. Very circumstantial and dependent on what teams and players you are looking specifically at I think.

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            1. In Like Flynn.
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              I'm still working through the Season Ticker to find the ones I think are best and the right GWs to swap teams and players around.
              Some decent options in there Walsh.

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              1. Walsh
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                Always decent options 😉 Just need the damn prices to come out so we can figure it all out!!

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          3. Cheeseoid
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            I try to take both into account.

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            1. In Like Flynn.
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              This.
              For the most part I'd rather have a player facing Burnley away than City at home and there are some excellent fixture rotations throughout the season that run for quite long periods.

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              1. Walsh
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                In that case, then of course you would prefer the away player but again it is very circumstantial. It also seems folly to look at these season long rotations and think for a minute that you will partner two players from GW1 to GW38, it will simply never happen. Always more important to me to look at a 8ish week window only when taking into account rotations as so much can crop up to change things.

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                1. Cheeseoid
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                  That is so true. TBH you can look at a player one day thinking it will be a long/ medium term purchase than by the end of that GW think what the hell was I thinking

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                  1. Walsh
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                    Need to find some good muscle relaxers to calm our knees down this season, perhaps.

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                    1. In Like Flynn.
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                      I was definitely a bit twitchy last year.

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                2. In Like Flynn.
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                  A lot of the rotations work for about the 8-10 week period you're thinking of Walsh.

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        12. goriuanx
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          Next man claims Liverpool willing to pay £45m for Reus.

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          1. The Machine
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            More than enough money but would he move?

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            1. goriuanx
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              He knows he'll be off next summer, to a better club IMO.

              But, Liverpool isn't the worst place to be for youngsters right now.

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          2. LOCO ABREU
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            would be fantasy gold

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            1. goriuanx
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              Far stretched. I just don't see it happening. Think we'll get someone else, like Griezmann.

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            2. The Machine
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              Not a Liverpool fan but hope it happens. Would be a great addition to the league

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          3. Snikii
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            If he was really available every club in europe would be in for him, no chance imo

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            1. goriuanx
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              Release clause can be activated from next summer, £30m.

              I think LFC offering loads to convince BVB, don't see it happening myself. Easier to convince BVB more than Reus in this case.

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              1. Snikii
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                They were so stubborn to keep Lewa for another season, cant see them selling a world superstar with 1 month to replace him without anyone already lined up.

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                1. goriuanx
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                  They are in talks with Firmino but yes I agree with you

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                  1. Frank Black
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                    Reus' release clause can already be activated and it's 35 million euros. Anyone who writes 45 million pounds or any other figure is just doing bad news reporting.

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        13. The Machine
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          Arsene Wenger on French TV:

          "It will be difficult for some of my AFC players to get excited about playing the likes of Spurs next season"

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          1. goriuanx
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            Gooners are so obsessed with Spurs. They're a much bigger club, much better too. Why even bother?

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          2. In Like Flynn.
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            Aldershot players should think themselves lucky to play them imo Nate. 🙂

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          3. Snikii
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            he said Stoke away I believe

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            1. RedLightning
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              That would make more sense. I can well imagine that they don't enjoying playing on a cold rainy night at Stoke.

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          4. RedLightning
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            Maybe that's why they never finish higher than 4th.

            But why pick on Spurs? Is he suggesting that they can't get excited about playing any other Premier League team, not even their local rivals in the big grudge match? Or that they don't appreciate the importance that their fans give to local derbies because too many of them are foreigners?

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          5. applebonkers
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            how are some mopping this up

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        14. Les Bleus
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          Mirror players, overall points total? 406 here

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          1. FRESH SLICE
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            419

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        15. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          After being in the top 500 or so for the entire group stages, it's a bit underwhelming to finish 4648

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Unlucky Sinik, the difference between two or three players in each round I imagine. Maybe as little as captain choice.

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            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              yep, my phone actually glitched one round and misinterpreted my touch and I subbed out a 10 pointer in the QFs if I recall hahah

              was just meant to pass my time until FPL right? 😉

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              1. In Like Flynn.
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                • 13 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                That's all it was for alright.

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        16. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          So how did everyone do last season. I peaked at 1119 but finished at 5048. The drop was in the last few weeks so was disappointing. Was still well up on the previous year of 14322. Leaves me a bigger target to go for to improve this year at least. Top 1K or bust I say.

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I'll probably improve on the last two years if I make no transfers and ignore the WCs. 🙁

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            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              WC's always seem to result in more harm than good to me too

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        17. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Will Calum Chambers be first choice Saint's defender for this season?

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          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Depends on their left back situation. Clyne may become a LB with Chambers playing at RB.

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          2. Holmes
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Should be first choice if they dont sign anyone else

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          3. In Like Flynn.
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Thanks fellas, cheap in the Sky game if he is.

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        18. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          so everyone thinks that FPL will open in approx 2hours at 4 AM BST?

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Nah!

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            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              cheers AB 🙂

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            2. Nabs Kebabs
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              that is today.

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          3. The Sarjeant
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Nope. Look at the opening times in this post.

            http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/7531191

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            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              yep remember you linking that post to me the other day which is why I was confused by everyone talking about 4 am haha

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              1. The Sarjeant
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                It's just a joke everyone says to wind people up.

                Personally, I think it's going to open later today, late afternoon/evening.

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                1. sinik
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 9 months ago

                  so in about 12 hours?

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                  1. The Sarjeant
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 9 months ago

                    Yeah.

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        19. Open Controls
          1. In Like Flynn.
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            It's a great place Beavis. Any prize for 4th?

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            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Arsenal fans should have the answer to this 😀

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              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Brazil got booed

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              2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                everyone is making this joke now because they know it wont be valid next season

                😉

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            2. Beavis
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              No idea. Speaks about a grand prize but no mention of others and that's after you read the t&c. Doesn't seem to have a prizes section.

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        20. Pedram
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          4AM kick off can't come soon enough.

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          1. sinik
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            ?

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          2. In Like Flynn.
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Crazy time for a match if you ask me. The body just isn't at it's best at that time of night.

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            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              what match is this?

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              1. Walsh
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                The match where FPL is not going to open again.

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        21. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Boruc, 4m
          Ivan, Shaw, Pieters, Simpson, Vertonghen
          Eriksen, Sidwell, Tadic, Snodgrass, 4m
          RVP, Sanchez, Gomis
          Looks good to me plus achievable 😎

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          1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            if I see one more RMT before the game even effing opens....

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            1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              😉

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              1. In Like Flynn.
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                • 13 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                That's his Sky team. 😉

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            2. Gnu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              This. 🙂

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              1. In Like Flynn.
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                • 13 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                I thought you'd have a Sky ML up and running by now Gnu.

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                1. Gnu
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 9 months ago

                  Hi RB 🙂
                  Nope, haven't bothered with any other games for couple of seasons now (or1 1/2) as they don't keep my interest. Enjoyed the ufpl game so I'll give that a bash. Playing one game badly is enough for me. How's things with you?

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                  1. In Like Flynn.
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                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 9 months ago

                    Things are fine thanks chum.

                    The UFPL is going to be good for those of us who are around to update our teams throughout the GW.

                    I think I shall limit myself strictly to no more than 12 games and 25 teams this year. Otherwise it can get out of hand.

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                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 9 months ago

                      Was UFPL any good. Personally I like the 1 game 1 team approach. That way I can use all my concentration on 1 thing. I mostly do my team on quiet nights at work like tonight so am usually around quite a bit like tonight. Is it worth adding UFPL? I didn't try it last year

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                      1. Gnu
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        9 years, 9 months ago

                        I would say it's worth a shot. Pick your 25 man squad then your 11 + 7 subs for the gw, with subs & captain change allowed over gw.. It's not got the weekly time constraints of FPL because your squad is chosen but you need to be around every game day to make changes before first kick off to make subs and that may be a slight bind. I like it for the reason your working with a squad and that negates the bandwagon element of FPL. I'm hoping both games will co exist and be fun but hard to see past FPL at this stage. As I posted above I've jacked in all other games for various reasons but ultimately they don't compare to FPL for sustaining interest, also you always have a chance to redeem yourself over the course of a season with a bit of graft & good luck.

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                        1. Cheeseoid
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          9 years, 9 months ago

                          Hmm interesting. Now my problem would be I am often asleep when matches kick off on Saturdays and Sundays. So any changes I make Are the night before do you think that is a disadvantage in this situation?

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                          1. Gnu
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 14 Years
                            9 years, 9 months ago

                            Yes, but.... if your around after the saturday games are finished you can make your subs then as long as it's before ko on the Sunday. It's not like the McFubar WC game where your waiting before every KO, so it's not a disadvantage other than missing any pre match news on the Sunday morning but that's rarely exact - more rumour.

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                            1. Gnu
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 14 Years
                              9 years, 9 months ago

                              So that wasn't an definite yes! 🙂
                              As long as you remember to make yoursubs at some point is the main thing.

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                            2. Cheeseoid
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 11 Years
                              9 years, 9 months ago

                              I think Will give it a shot. Probably. Might upset the Mrs mind

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                        2. In Like Flynn.
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                          • 13 Years
                          9 years, 9 months ago

                          I still preferred Metro. But looks like that game has gone. 🙁

                          35th and 26th last two years too.

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                    2. Gnu
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 9 months ago

                      😆
                      Yep, best not to spread yourself too thinly....

                      I'm off to bed in a mo but catch up soon.
                      You'll be playing the "Wigan to me..." league again I hope? Jonty won and is the proud owner of a new Barbour jacket btw!!!

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                      1. In Like Flynn.
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                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 9 months ago

                        Yes I'll be in again. Assuming I'm above ground. 😉

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                        1. Gnu
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          9 years, 9 months ago

                          Good man, G'night.

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            3. Holmes
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              I didnt asked for RMT 😉

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          2. In Like Flynn.
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Sidwell could be a good pick (I hope) Does he go straight in?

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            1. Holmes
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              I think so and can share few set piece with Arnautovic.
              And this isnt Sky, its FPL team 😛

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              1. In Like Flynn.
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                • 13 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                I knew it was. 🙂 Hope he's as cheap in FPL then.

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                1. Holmes
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 9 months ago

                  I considered him as £6m, so hopefully should be in same range.

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                  1. In Like Flynn.
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                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 9 months ago

                    5.0 in Sky, £75 mill budget for 11 players.

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                    1. Holmes
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 9 months ago

                      Sky's budget look friendly. I tried to make team and got somewhat good with 2m left. Its similar to Espn, so can give a try.

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                      1. In Like Flynn.
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 9 months ago

                        Remember the in GW captain swaps. That double captaincy makes all the difference. I missed about ten weeks last season.

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                  2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 9 months ago

                    there are no 4m mids in FPL 😉

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                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 9 months ago

                      Last year the wasn't. But wasn't there some the year before?

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                    2. Holmes
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 9 months ago

                      JWP wasnt? Or any dead midfielder?

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                      1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 9 months ago

                        no he was 4.5...later in the season some drop to 4m, but no-one starts there usually 🙂

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                    3. In Like Flynn.
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                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 9 months ago

                      A little harsh perhaps. 🙂

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                      1. In Like Flynn.
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                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 9 months ago

                        😳 I thought you meant Sidwell. It's getting late.

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                        1. Holmes
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 9 months ago

                          😆

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                        2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 9 months ago

                          😀

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                    4. Gnu
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 9 months ago

                      Shane Ferguson was the exception 2 seasons ago but that's been it.

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        22. Keepergirl
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          After careful consideration and firm guidance from my family I will not be playing FPL this year 🙁
          It's like crack...totall
          Too addictive
          Meets all of the CAGE criteria of an addiction
          1) I've tried to Cut down on my use and failed
          2) I've Annoyed other
          3) I've felt Guilty about the amount I use
          4) I've had to check in first thing in the morning for an Eye opener

          Cold turkey is the only cure.
          See you all on 2016 for the Euro!

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          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I assume you posted this so we would change your mind. Go on you know you want too. You are only smoking it!

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          2. In Like Flynn.
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Play one of the limited transfer games. That way you know tinkering time is down to a minimum.

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            1. Keepergirl
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              You're a fantasy league pusher!
              But tell me more about limited transfer games

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              1. In Like Flynn.
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Various. Sky has 40 transfers per season. Others range from 30. All sorts of rules I'll give you updates as they are launched.
                Sorry must get off to me pit now though.

                You're right btw. I enjoy all the different games. 🙂

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          3. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            You're a girl?

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            1. Keepergirl
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Last time I looked

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              1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                😯
                That can't be true

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          4. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            trust me, you will struggle to keep to your conviction...

            with any "addiction" the best cure is never to go cold turkey straight away...it is such a big part of you that your willpower will struggle to keep it at bay, and you will give in without actually doing anything to solve the problem...

            what you should do I slowly but surely cut down on your use...you say you have tried to before and failed, well that's part of the problem...you cannot give up, you must keep persevering...

            my advice for you is to just play Sky...that game has a limited amount of transfers, so that should keep tinkering down to a minimum as ILF says...if you aren't a UK citizen then play FPL...to do so successfully you must set limits to the time you spend on it each day....set aside say an hour (max) for which you spend on FPL, and use a timer to help you know when to get off...preferably do it in the morning, because you want to get it out of the way before you start the day...then you will have satisfied your craving without it getting out of hand...also reward yourself if you stick to time (ie. something you like to do - watch TV, eat chocolate, spend time with your friends etc...)...positive reinforcement is a great way to develop habits...if you fail and crack, don't give up, just try again until you succeed - hopefully your motivation to change gets you where you want to go...

            you should also spend time doing important things (seriously) - like work, spending time with close ones, exercising, eating well - if you do this you will realise how good you feel after taking part in such activities, which should drive you to spend more time on them and less time on FPL - which lets face, often leads to frustration

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            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              But Sky is really boring. I would sooner not play anything.

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              1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                im just trying to him a poor lost soul 🙂 😉

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                1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 9 months ago

                  *help

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          5. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Have you tried patches? Or Methadone?

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          6. OShaughnessy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            At a time like this all I can think of is Superfly!

            "I went along with that thing of yours about getting out cause I had nothing else.
            When I get out what am I gunna do?

            I don't know nothing else but Fantasy, baby.
            Free Transferring' it, Captain' it, Rate my Team' it'...

            Ya know, you've got this fantasy in your head about gettin outta the life and setting that other world on its ear.

            What the F**K are you gunna do except the Fantasy hustle?
            Besides you FFS4LIFE!?"

            Pusherman - Curtis Mayfield 1972
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npv-g431Qis

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          7. Pepereina Pizza
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Good for you, OP.

            Make moves. If FPL taxes your happiness, then you don't need it. Stay strong. I support you.

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        23. tm245
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Evening. For the last time, here are the DZ Picks Challenge standings:

          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_Bbt3iz70Cj-sgABKF9-sZYoGK5FxZKwoAPzg2eBUKU/edit?usp=docslist_api

          Congratulations to SMP for the dominant win. He was further ahead if 2nd place then 2nd place was ahead of the mean. Great picks.

          The other top spots were tightly contested with
          Ryan
          Saniul
          Blue Lion
          Lord of Shadows
          rounding out the top five. Thanks for playing to all go the contestants.

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          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 12 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Cheers mate. Glad I was right about the overall winner Germany. Nice little competition that was, thanks for running it.

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        24. Wolverine
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Imagine fpl actually DID open at 4am 😀

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          1. CellinoArmy
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            That would be awesome, but i guess the later the better as this just keeps me distracted form study.

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            1. CellinoArmy
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Really want UFPL to open though!

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          2. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Of course it is opening at 4am. How could you doubt it?

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        25. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          That's me done. Night Guys.

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          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Night

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        26. OShaughnessy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          I don't even need the 4am open!

          Already have my team roughed out & ready to go...

          Also, judging by how Fantasy Footy typically unfolds, I have to assume that these players I have in mind will be the highest scoring at their particular positions & won't be rested, rotated or injured at any point during the year so I can just sit back, relax & collect the Grand Prize. 🙂

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          1. FRESH SLICE
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I won't bother making a team then, no point when you put it like that.

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            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              If everybody did that then the prophecy would be fulfilled.

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        27. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Searching for potential bargains. What do people know about Aaron Cresswell. Is he likely to go straight into the first xi at West Ham?

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          1. FRESH SLICE
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Should slot straight in at left back, for sure.

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            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Cheapest way into the West Ham back line probably then? I am sure I remember something about West Ham trying to be more attacking this year so full backs crossing to big Andy Carroll who will be nicely rested may not be a bad thing.

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              1. FRESH SLICE
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Will be at least 4.5 and I wouldn't be surprised with 5.0 to be completely honest.

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                1. Walsh
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 9 months ago

                  All West Ham first choice defenders will probably open up at 5 or 5.5 each given their defensive record last season.

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                  1. FRESH SLICE
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 9 months ago

                    5.5 is definitely extreme. They're not in the elite defence bracket so I'd only expect a 5.5 defender from a club like West Ham if a he'd scored a few goals the season before, which they don't have. 5.0 max.

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                    1. Walsh
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 9 months ago

                      Yeah fair enough, NP. 5.0 seems more likely I suppose. Still not in the budget bracket either way!

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                      1. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 9 months ago

                        No. Mid range. Last year I worked with 1 premium 1 mid ramge and rest budge for most of the first half of the season. Seemed to work quite well. Finding those budget ones will be tricky this year I think.

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                        1. Walsh
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 9 months ago

                          Yep will be tough to get it right amongst the promoted sides. I may splash a little more in defense to open this year. May even start out 433 depending on prices if there are no mid-priced mids I like enough.

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                          1. Cheeseoid
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            9 years, 9 months ago

                            I'm just putting it out there. If Bacuna is a regular for Villa I reckon he will be a bargain this year.

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                  2. Cheeseoid
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 9 months ago

                    I think 5 is about right for WH def. Still might be worth it. I think the real bargains will be a lot fewer this year. That Crystal Palace defence dpoiled us last year and Hull were good too. Burnley, Leicester and QPR I have my doubts about.

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          2. Walsh
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Was a nice article written up on Cresswell a couple days ago. He could be a good option. Depending on price though, I still have a soft spot for Reid and if I opt for a Hammers defender I will probably try and fit him in instead.

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        28. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          not long left fellas. hang in there

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          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            31 mins

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