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18 June 2011 452 comments
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Having allowed skipper Kevin Nolan to nestle back under the wing of Sam Allardyce at Upton Park, Newcastle had to act quickly to stem the tide of negativity that had swept through the St James’ faithful. The signing of striker Demba Ba for an undisclosed fee on Friday will surely have helped matters.

Captured on a three-year deal, Ba arrives on Tyneside having made a significant impression in West Ham’s colours. With 7 goals in 12 appearances, Ba proved one to be an inspired signing for Avram Grant, but even his displays could not save the Hammers from the drop, or indeed Grant from dismissal.

The Senegalese striker will take on no less responsibility at Newcastle. While the likes of Leon Best and Shola Ameobi attempted to fill the void left by Andy Carroll’s departure to Liverpool, Alan Pardew quickly identified that he required further acquisitions up front.

Ba may well be one of several strikers to arrive at the club, but he has already demonstrated that he has the ability establish himself at the top level in England and make a Magpies starting role his own. Indeed, Ba wasted no time in expressing his intentions on his arrival at St James’ Park…

“When I step on the pitch, all I want to do is win games, and I think the Premier League is a good league for me…I will keep on working hard. I’ve heard that the atmosphere here is great and I can’t wait to score some goals in front of our fans and here that atmosphere for myself.”

The Statistics

Ba was not a newcomer to English football when he arrived at West Ham. Having been on Watford’s books, he was allowed to leave in 2005, at which point he returned to France to play his trade. He forged a short career in French football with both Rouen and Mouscron between 2005-07 – spells that were to produce a staggering goalscoring record of 30 goals in 38 appearances. Had it not been for an eight-month absence through injury in 2006, after fracturing both his tibia and fibula, his early career would have surely flourished further.

Ba had done enough to attract further interest however. A move to Hoffenheim in the Bundesliga followed in 2007 for a fee of 3 million euros. A tally of 37 goals in 97 appearances in Germany continued to demonstrate Ba’s credentials and with the Premier League stage beckoning, Ba turned his attentions back to England.

A move to West Ham was originally muted before the striker travelled to have talks with Stoke City in January this year. Ba failed a medical at the Britannia, scuppering the move and providing further evidence that Ba’s injury record was a factor. West Ham decided to take the gamble however; later that month Ba signed a three-year deal.

While Ba’s spell in London was successful in terms of goals, doubts over his fitness were clearly a concern. Grant continually rotated his strikers, keeping Ba out of the firing line in Cup matches, preserving him for the quest for precious league points. He started 10 matches in the Premier League – a fact that makes his goal haul of 7 that more impressive.

Further analysis of Ba’s Opta data tells us more of his potential. Our members can delve into last season’s performance data in full but the key stat is perhaps Ba’s average goal attempts per game which, at 2.9, is up their with some of the very best strikers in the league. Indeed, with 1.6 efforts per game on target, only Robin Van Persie and Luis Suarez can better Ba’s figures. Significantly, Ba surpasses Andy Carroll in these areas then – the Geordie recording 2.8 shots per game, with 1.3 on target.

The Prospects

Newcastle fans will surely be optimistic that Ba can step in a do a job. There’s little doubt that, when he’s out on the pitch, Ba provides ample threat to opponents and, as Alan Pardew stressed in Friday’s press statement, he has all the ability to establish himself in English football…

“Demba made a great impression with West Ham last season and is a great signing for this club. He has pace, excellent technical ability, is good in the air and, it goes without saying, has the ability to consistently find the back of the net. Moreover he has a great passion to play for Newcastle United.”

While there will be bigger signings this summer in the striker positions, Ba already looks a strong option as a low-to-mid price consideration. His valuation of 5.0 in the Fantasy Premier League Game may not be carried through into next term, but we should expect Ba to be available around 6.0 mark. That could represent good value if he can stay clear of injury and Newcastle can quickly gel their new acquisitions to produce a side capable of improving on last season’s finish.

Further Reference

Demba Ba Wikipedia
Hoffenheim goal compilation
West Ham goal compilation

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Boom!!!
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    shaqiri assist!

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    1. Boom!!!
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      ignore this post 😉

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    2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      It f*cking wasnt.

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      1. Boom!!!
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        read above 😈

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        1. Namtab Nomolos
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          Brief glimmer of first a goal, then an assist for my captain, then nothing. 🙂

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    3. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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      They've reshown the goal ten times on Swiss TV - each time the assist comes from Abrashi!

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      1. Bubbles
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        Have they shown it an eleventh, and if so did it change?

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        1. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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          Hang on a minute - yes, they're now trying to give the assist to the Belarus keeper for moving away from his near post like an idiot...

          As ever in Switzerland, that was a really even-handed commentary. Although they're rightly chuffed at their team's success, there's no ridiculous triumphalism as you'd find with English football commentators. Most Swiss observers are unsure whether their team is really in with a chance of winning the tournament, or whether they've just profited from being in the easier group.

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          1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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            How envious I am of decent commentary, it can't be too hard to be object, can it?

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  2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    makes no difference. Belarus and Switzerland are through.

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  3. 4vets
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    Aaaah... the sweet smell of failure. I know it so well...

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  4. Namtab Nomolos
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    2 Belarus Belarus 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
    3 Iceland Iceland 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3
    4 Denmark Denmark 3 1 0 2 3 5 -2 3

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    1. Bubbles
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      Bloody Belarus! Load up on the Spanish (if they do win the other group) for the next round I think.

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      1. Nomar
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        Thinkin the same thing. Spain will murder them.

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    2. applebonkers
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      how does head it work then? they're all level on goal difference and goals scored but head to head is a mess too. belarus have a superior record against iceland but an inferior record against denmark. iceland are superior to denmark but inferior to belarus and denmark are superior to belarus but inferior to iceland.
      how have they got belarus 2nd?

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    3. PFOR
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      My head hurts.

      How/why are Belarus 2nd if they all the same everything?!

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      1. PFOR
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        *if they all have the same everything.

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      2. applebonkers
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        alphabetical order 😉

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      3. Nomar
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        Descending levels of cackness.

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      4. applebonkers
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        actually it makes sense. by losing to switzerland by the biggest margin belarus must have the best record if they, belarus and denmark were in a group with just those 3

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        1. applebonkers
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          *if they iceland and denmark

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  5. super zlatan
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    Cmon Rory!!!

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  6. Ninjaa
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    Villa Gk(5.5)/Robinson(4.5)
    Luiz(7.0)/Hangeland(5.5)/Baines(7.5)Simpson(4.0)Rangel(4.0)
    Taraabt(5.5)/Ben Arfa(5.5)/Dempsey(7.5)N'zogbia(6.5)Malouda(9.5)
    Bent(9.0/)Sinclair(6.0)/Drogba/Torres(12.5)
    Thoughts?????????????????

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    1. super zlatan
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      Nice team. Would have Valencia over malouda though

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    2. Churchill
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      Ben Arfa not long returned from a grotesque injury. He may take some time to find form.

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      1. Ninjaa
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        but good elsewhere? possibly valencia 8.5 and osman 7 for malouda and ben arfa if i gain 0.5 somewhere?

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        1. Lucas Leiva
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          Will Sinclair be classed at a midfielder or a forward?

          Playing on the left of a 4-3-3?

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          1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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            He should honestly be a midfielder just like Walcott and Arshavin.

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  7. Jafalad
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    23 pts from this crazy day. 😕

    Klose ppl getting him in. Is he nailed on in the SWZ defence? Bit of a bargain at 4.7.

    Me too-how are BELrusskia through? 😕

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  8. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Cant believe I got selfish on the iceland win 🙠Ignored the 7/1 and got greedy ðŸ™

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  9. Lucas Leiva
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    So Switzerland and Denmark through?

    14 pts 🙠Walker and Sturridge to come in though, with Mata captained.

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    1. Boom!!!
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      Switzerland and Belarus through...belarus vs spain in semis if spain win tomorrow!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        How does that compute, Boom!!! ?

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        1. Boom!!!
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          if spain wins tomorrow they will finish top of group b and will face runners up of group a i.e.belarus in semis 🙂
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_UEFA_European_Under-21_Football_Championship

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            Is there any way Spain will not go through - I've just put one of their defenders in for Zanka ...

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            1. Boom!!!
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              ukraine to win by just four goals 😉

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                Fair enough - I have two of them! 😉

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  10. Allnatt
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    According to Uefa Competition Regulation b)godl df in the matches between the teams in question.

    Belarus +1
    Iceland 0
    Denmark -1

    so Belarus 2nd. Am i correct?

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    1. Allnatt
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      'goal difference' sorry.

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    2. applebonkers
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      yeah belarus had the worst result against switzerland of the 3 sides so they have to have the best record in that 3 team mini league

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      1. Jafalad
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        Seems a strange ruling when you need to look at the overall context: DEN had the best result against the group winners so in theory, you could argue they have more grounds to go through.

        Plus of course, they have beaten BEL, the team awarded second place. 😕

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        1. applebonkers
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          true true. thems the rules though head to head record

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        2. Allnatt
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          It may sound stupid question but i have to ask Why is it matter 'result against group winner'? I'm searching regulation but i can't see those.

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  11. Boom!!!
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    history updated!
    highest score -57 😯
    average - 13

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  12. Freshy
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    Have 2 Belarus defenders Politevich and Polyakov.
    Prolly smart not play either against Spain.
    Belarus are such choppers

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  13. PFOR
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    I'm loving the extra €5m in the bank. When are the semi-finals?

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    1. Boom!!!
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      22 Jun 17:45 CET
      there could be 3/4th place off match as well if england don't make the semis for the qualification of olympics...

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  14. Lucas Leiva
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    Noob question - If I played my wilcard right now I can change my squad until the semi-finals start?

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    1. Boom!!!
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      yes....

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      1. Lucas Leiva
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        Great!

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  15. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    28 with 5 to play.

    It's ok to post your scores now that the grinch has gone to Africa 🙂

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      Fancy a crack on clubs in 10min or so?

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      1. denial
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        Wrong kind of site man 😉

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      2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        ya

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  16. Attila the Bum
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    Wooooo
    Found somewhere selling THE best footy kit ever (Newcastle away shirt 1995/96). Love it when you're shopping for someone else, then you find something class for yourself. 🙂

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  17. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    Goodness! I AM enjoying these U-21 matches ... NOT!!! 😡

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      You'll have burnout for FPL too. Quality pro's like me skipped the U21's 😛

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      1. Boom!!!
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        Quality pro'sRookies

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        *puff of smoke*

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  18. maxi - REAL ENGLISH FAN
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    i ****ing hate saturday nights when i'm ****ing stuck in alone

    I cant wait til the season starts again so I can stay in for MOTD

    these next two months couldnt go by quicker

    btw i tried applying for coaches jobs and no lie I mustve applied for about a hundred

    got told i should do my coaching badges and teach at a school seriously whats the ****ing point

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      You mean they actually expect you to get some kind of qualification or experience before giving you the Man Utd job?
      Cheeky bastards!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        Is this the first WUM of Summer? 😉

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      2. Shakey
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        😆

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      3. maxi - REAL ENGLISH FAN
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        no i get that you need experience

        im not going to go down to my primary school and start teaching kids not to toepunt

        guess if i say i work with kids women will appreciate it more than when i say i work as a ****ing admin assistant plus im sure the kids mums will be hot. wont be too old

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          Show them your champ manager record. It'll blow their minds

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      4. Shakey
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        Surely there's a Alan Shearer gag here somewhere.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          Sheep. Shearers wanted? 😉

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        2. Attila the Bum
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          Shhhh. 😆

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  19. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    Right. 21 only, 5 to play as of right. Could transfer in 3 more, -3. New captain, -3. Still no goals ... surely they must come, sooner or later? Gahhh! ðŸ™

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    1. Horizontal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I just activated my wildcard which makes me feel better about life in general. 🙂

      Time to fiddle endlessly, but even the extra 5M doesn't let me pick a decent side. And that's even if I knew what a decent side was.

      I have to admit that I completely suck at picking players for this compo. 1617th in the world. Probably going down further tomorrow.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        Good luck, anyway! 🙂

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          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Since you're a wine buff, MMW, did you catch the TV series "Oz & James's big wine adventure"?

          It was interesting, but not as funny as it should have been.

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  20. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    SoupsSources...

    Stoke lining up a double bid for Ridgewell and Jerome off Birmingham.

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  21. Morrissey1986
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    Taarabt leaving QPR

    Taarabt, voted the best player in the Championship last season, said last night: 'I helped QPR win promotion but they will not offer me a better contract. They say I am already on big wages.
    'They want me to stay four years on the same terms. But I don't want to sign for four years then after one year I am going to be back in The Championship.
    'No disrespect, but if we keep the same players, it will be very difficult to stay in the Premier League when you are playing Man United and Chelsea.'

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      Link?

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    2. Shakey
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      He's not being advised very well if he's said that.

      He'll only get a move to a lower mid-table club if he decides to move now, whereas if he sticks it out at QPR for at least another 6 months, he'll have a chance to prove himself in the PL in the best environment: a team he's been at for a couple of seasons that's been built around him.

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        A lot of players are ridiculously unintelligent these days.

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  22. maxi - REAL ENGLISH FAN
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    modric to liverpool?

    please let it happen

    cant stand sp*rs or chelski but as you guys would say ABU

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    1. Lucas Leiva
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Modic wants to leave to play CL football so he joins Liverpool?

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      1. Lucas Leiva
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        *Modric

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  23. jayzico
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    this u21 pish is doing my head in... met a new very tasty bird last week... she came round for dinner tonight (me in the knowledge that iceland would be destroyed and id mint the points in.NOT SO)...

    F**K this u21 pish man... (bird gone. freaked out that im into ANY type of football. SO ANGRY that i just got rid of half my team and now i have... 7 spaniards and counting!!! hahaha)

    f**k knows wat this post is about. pist off. never got my hole. come on spain. END OF. ra x

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    1. Demí
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      You can't have 7 spain players at this stage. ra x

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      1. jayzico
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        couldnt care less now demi. spain are the stalwarts thus far so why not. personally would rather have shagged a young g titter but hey... cest la vie

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  24. Ich bin Klopp
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    bello?

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  25. Lucas Leiva
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    Feeling alot more confident about my team now I've played my wildcard 🙂

    Oh, and what time do price changes usually happen? 😀

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    1. jayzico
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      they already happened g...for those that remember... adidas zx 280 original blue/grey/yellow stripe colourways? bet no one has a clue... original chelsea boi trainer lol...

      clueless x

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      1. jayzico
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        reason i posted that is i just found a pair on ebay for £200 (used) ahahah... bought them! ahhhhh memories of the shed with mr sinclair me dad and a bottle of strongbow. safe x

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          1. jayzico
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            lol. na mate... i wanted these trainers way back man. and anyway... i now hath joined the force of the scout... at last... for 12.50! LOVING IT!!! shame there aint any chelsea out there yet ill battle on my friend x

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          2. jayzico
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            ahahahaha! just caught that g... VERY funny man! genius! lol

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  26. jayzico
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    so now that no one is up... heres my thinking...

    yes u may all know me for a zillion transfers, BUT not this season... gona stay sober this time...

    devries/ ?
    Ivan/cole/kompany/gorks/?
    LAMPS(C)/taarbt/s sinclair/zogs/whoevericanafford
    VanP/suarez/nando

    lets go! wish there were more chelsea dudes here but whha x

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    1. Lucas Leiva
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      Hope Sinclair is classed as a midfielder. I guess he will but they could easily put him as a forward, being on the left of a 4-3-3.

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      1. Lucas Leiva
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        And btw you have 4 Chelsea players 😉

        I wouldn't go anywhere near Nando.

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      U won't have the cash for that team

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      1. jayzico
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        lol @ 4 chelsea... so i do, well to make it simple and for me to AFFORD this team. nando BYE. Demba ba HELLO! thats my team... thus far x

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  27. Lucas Leiva
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    Anybody watching Strikeforce?

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  28. FPL Daniel
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    OK initial squad should consist players from: Che, Liv, Wig, Villa, QPR, Tevez maybe or RVP maybe.

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      + Swa and if somebody is reasonably priced at Utd

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  29. Lucas Leiva
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    Just noticed the new ticker!

    B E A Utiful

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  30. Jafalad
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    EPL chat

    My highly speculative forward line: Ba, RVP and Bent.

    What do others reckon?

    U21 chat:

    The loading has begun. Mata, Adrian and Spain defender in for my last brave Icy, Jorgensen and Zanka der Man.

    Another sad day ðŸ™

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    1. jayzico
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      sup jafa... my forward line is thus far similar ... RVP, ba, suarez (see what happens with caroll first tho... u know my mum saw him and macalister boozing in algarve last week... my mates bro said they spotted him in barbados wid hairshrek week before. no joke lol)

      yeah man... i loaded up wid spain. got 6 at mo... before price goes up... why not! czech gona whip the english so eh cool

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      1. Jafalad
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        Could do with ENG progressing as it would be easier to make the transfers I need.

        The Czeach I have at present is Dockal.

        The other thing, I need Cap'n Sturridge to have the mother of all barnstormers tomorrow. That telly has been slowly slipping away from me ðŸ™

        Barbados: great place 🙂

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        1. jayzico
          • 15 Years
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          forget england. yet again they are pish... gone. kaput. au revoir... rubbish team.

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          1. Jafalad
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            ...er,...they haven't lost a game yet 😯

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            1. Bob.
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              14 years, 7 months ago

              They havent won a game yet either 😉

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