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Fixture Analysis – Rotation Pairs – Norwich and Stoke

We roll out the third piece in a series of articles which analyse potential rotation pairings for the season ahead this morning. Having cast an eye over the West Ham/Southampton and Hull/Crystal Palace combinations, we now take a look at the prospects offered up twinning Norwich with Stoke.

The Fixtures

In a situation similar to our previous couple of examples, both Norwich and Stoke alternate perfectly on a home and away basis across the entire 38 Gameweeks. Over the first half of the season, the run of home fixtures on offer look strong and include four games against promoted sides, with just five fixtures against any of last term’s top six.

This applies to Norwich on three occasions – Gameweek 1 at home to Everton, Gameweek 7 against Chelsea and Gameweek 19 when United roll up to Carrow Road, while Stoke face City and Chelsea in Gameweeks 4 and 15 respectively. For those Fantasy managers eyeing up a three-way rotation, Fulham look the best fit with a schedule that reads (sun, WBA, STO, AVL, hul) over those five particular Gameweeks. Indeed, the Cottagers also rotate with Norwich over 36 of the 38 Gameweeks, offering a viable alternative to the “perfect” home and away rotation offered by the Potters. However, it’s a pairing that breaks as early as Gameweek 8 with two away trips, followed by a daunting Gameweek 10 that serves up a choice of a home fixture with United or an away trip to City.

The Norwich/Stoke partnership looks more inviting over the first half of the season, with the season climax looking a little more problematic. Between Gameweeks 20-28, this pairing would entertain Everton, Liverpool, United, City, Spurs and Arsenal over a run of nine matches, while home games against Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal from Gameweek 35 onwards is again a little tricky and may prompt changes for the run-in.

Defence

Stoke
The departure of Tony Pulis and subsequent arrival of Mark Hughes could well have a knock-on effect on how we assess the Potters’ main Fantasy assets for the season ahead. Stoke had the seventh best backline in the Premier League last time out – 45 goals against were just two more than United and Liverpool, for example – but Hughes’ determination to introduce a more attacking brand of football could prove detrimental to their ability to keep out opponents.

Certainly, Asmir Begovic should remain nailed-on for the Staffordshire outfit but after finishing 2012/13 on 144 points, joint-second for keepers, it would be a real surprise if his price is less than 5.5 in Fantasy Premier League. Having started last term at 4.5, the Bosnian was a budget sensation but with a loftier price tag attached, his appeal is likely to somewhat diminish. Robert Huth may be one to profit from Hughes’ installation. The big German has admittedly failed to justify our faith in the past couple of campaigns but he’ll be hoping to replicate the displays of Brede Hangeland, who racked up six goals under the Welshman at Fulham back in 20101/11. Although he managed just a single goal last term, Huth’s price is likely to remain at 5.5 due to Stoke’s defensive record, though the likes of Ryan Shotton and Marc Wilson may be cheaper at full-back, having started just 20 and 19 games respectively last time out. However, with reports of an approach for PSV Eindhoven left-back Erik Pieters, it appears that we could be in danger of losing Wilson as an option, unless Hughes looks to utilise his versatility and deploy him elsewhere.

While Stoke produced seven clean sheets at the Britannia, they were relatively resilient on the road and kept out their opponents on five occasions, with Begovic unbeaten away to the likes of Liverpool and Spurs. Indeed, in terms of goals against they were almost identical – Pulis’ side shipped 22 in front of their own fans compared to 23 away from home.

Norwich
The Canaries, on the other hand, were a little more predictable when it came to home and away returns. Eight of their 10 clean sheets arrived at Carrow Road, with Chris Hughton’s side keeping out the likes of United and Arsenal in front of their own fans and with both their away clean sheets arriving against relegated QPR and Reading, the decision to bench Norwich’s backline assets on the road was relatively straightforward.

Price-wise, John Ruddy is likely to benefit from the knee injury that forced him out of 23 of his side’s league matches last time out. The Canaries first-choice stopper may very well continue at his 2012/13 starting price of 4.5, given his lack of minutes – such a scenario would boost his prospects considerably and could bring Begovic into the equation, for those Fantasy managers willing to spend around 10.0 on a pair of keepers.

In terms of attacking potential, Seb Bassong, Michael Turner and Russell Martin all notched three times apiece last time out and while the former two also chipped in with a couple of assists, Turner proved to be more of a bonus point magnet, with 10 to Bassong’s five and Martin’s three. Bassong rarely missed a game, however, and ended up with 121 points – having started last term at 4.5 as a squad player at Spurs, he should move to 5.0 at least and may well come in at 5.5, taking his consistency of starts into account. Indeed, with the Norwich defenders likely to move out the budget bracket altogether, Ruddy could be superb value if he remains in the sub 5.0 category.

Attacking Options

The Main Men
With 34 goals to their name all season (21 at home, 13 away) Stoke were dire going forward under Pulis – only QPR, with 30 goals, found the net less often. From a positive perspective, a change in tactics under Hughes suggests there may well be better value further up the field in the campaign ahead.

Jon Walters profited from Pulis’ decision to occasionally field him in “the hole” and with spot-kick duties also in his locker, he accumulated 141 points last time out, courtesy of eight goals, three assists and 16 bonus points. The only Stoke outfield player to start every match, Walters could, conceivably, be set for a slight price rise to 7.0 or 7.5, though question marks remain as to whether he’ll operate in such an advanced position under Hughes. If Peter Crouch remains the first-choice forward, his seven goals and 128 point FPL haul is unlikely to result in a price increase and, similar to last term, should come in around 6.5 – Hughes’ more offensive style of play could prove beneficial to the former Spurs man next time round.

For Norwich, Robert Snodgrass will surely remain the stand-out option. The Scot was head and shoulders above any team mate last term and finished with 152 FPL points – 31 ahead of second placed Bassong and ninth overall for midfielders, above the likes of Frank Lampard and David Silva. With that in mind, a rise in cost seems inevitable – starting last term at 6.0 following his summer move from Leeds, Snodgrass is likely to move to around 7.0 but with set-pieces and corners in the bag, could still offer strong value. New boy Ricky Van Wolfswinkel has registered 28 goals in his past two seasons for Sporting Lisbon and is anticipated to come in around the 6.5 mark – security of starts shouldn’t be an issue, given the substantial fee Hughton has shelled out for his services.

Mid-Price and Budget Targets
Hughes has already talked up the prospects of Charlie Adam next time out. Subject of a recent Sleeper article, the Scot could be expected to hog set-pieces and corners if he is established as a first-team regular and, having produced a mere 85 points in 2012/13, should come in around 6.5 or even 6.0. Similarly, Matt Etherington will be hoping his prospects get back on track following Pulis’ departure. The winger produced 146, 124 and 121 points in the three season prior to last year but failed to register any attacking returns whatsoever – a drop to 6.0 looks certain, with even 5.5 a possibility.

Anthony Pilkington has the potential to be an under the radar option for the Canaries. The left winger notched five times in 25 starts compared to Snodgrass’ six goals in 35 appearances in the first XI and, having missed a few matches with a hamstring injury, may even drop to 5.5 from last season’s initial 6.0. Hughton’s tactics should determine how we assess the rest of his offensive options. If he continues with the 4-4-1-1 formation from his debut campaign in charge, Grant Holt looks set for no more than an impact sub role from the bench late on in games but a shift to a two man frontline could keep him on the radar, after he notched in each of Norwich’s last three fixtures in 2012/13. Holt’s omission from the starting line-up would also leave spot-kicks up for grabs and while Van Wolfswinkel may be favourite, the Dutchman’s poor conversion record may see Hughton look for alternatives. With the Canaries linked with a move for Swede Ola Toivonen, though, it seems Hughton is determined to freshen up his attacking options after seeing his side notch just 41 times in his debut season at Carrow Road.

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  1. Lawrø
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    I'm officially switching my search engine from google to gizoogle, I'm actually amazed at what it does, have a look at what it did to the post:

    http://gizoogle.net/index.php?search=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk%2F2013%2F06%2F27%2Ffixture-analysis-rotation-pairs-norwich-and-stoke%2F&se=Gizoogle+Dis+Shiznit

    I just find it hilarious reading people's posts in "gangsta'' format 😀

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    1. Lawrø
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      Absolute fail of a new page, now the link won't work as well either 🙄

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      Will need to moderate this comment due to the language used.

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      1. Lawrø
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        What language?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          The swearing. The link works.

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          1. Lawrø
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            There is no swearing, the only swearing is on the webpage it links to -_-

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            1. TorresMagic™
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              Will leave it then.

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      2. Piggs Boson
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        -_-

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    3. Piggs Boson
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      😆 Paul's article is hilarious gangsta 🙂

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    4. Licky
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      I love what it did to my post.

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    5. roscola
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      That is the greatest thing in the world, thanks Lawro!

      BBC News sites and UK government are particularly great

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  2. iCon
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    Following on from above, any horror story t/fers from last year?

    Not the worst, but I remember bringing Michu in GW3 and then accidentally left him on the bench 🙁

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    1. Red Devil Swede
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Not getting Suarez when he was like 9.4. Getting rid of Suarez before his final hat-trick of the season. Had him the GW before and the GW after..

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      1. iCon
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        Beats my Michu /fail alright 🙂

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    2. Kings of Lyon ★
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      Debuchy was a bit of 'mare for me. Goal disallowed and injured in the first 20 mins. I held him through his price drops and when i did play him he got sent of in a hammering and amassed -4.

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    3. Jafalad
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      I had a guy called Graham in my gwk 1 team and I genuinely don't know who this guy is.

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
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        same here. fooled by the pre-season.

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      2. iCon
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        Bet you anything I held him longer than you!

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        1. iCon
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          Just checked GW9 before I got rid 😯 😆

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      3. Optimus.
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        😀

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    4. Christina.
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      Nolan to Jarvis in gw 3 WC.

      😥

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      1. Jafalad
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        You were warned.

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        1. Christina.
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          I never learn.

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      2. iCon
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        I'd say that cost you a few places in the end!

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        1. Christina.
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          Specifically that week. Jarvis got injured in warm up. Nolan scored.

          Worst was not getting Nolan for gw 38 though.

          I was suicidal.

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          1. iCon
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            GW 38 I posted on here that I was going to get Nolan and Carroll as a differential to Coutinho and Studge, as I thought my rival would be lurking. In the end I went with the Liverpool duo.....Oh what could have been 🙁

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            1. Christina.
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              Yeah Acqua and myself were going with Nolan. I chicken out.

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    5. Optimus.
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      i would have had lukaku 1st sub(hattrick) on my bench final day of the season but thankfully i sold him for a hit for lambert who did nothing

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  3. Licky
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    Is anyone else of the opinion that Liverpool isn't worth that much investment? Offensively it seems that if Suarez leaves he'll be replaced with Heno, Aspas and to a lesser extent Alberto to add goals and creativity to the side without actually finding a direct replacement for Suarez.

    If Suarez stays I think he can only improve on next season's performances but if not pricing will have a major impact on if we get Liverpool players. However on the flip side Liverpool could be a side with a lot of goals spread out among several players evenly. Whatever happens Liverpool could be a potential minefield and warrants serious consideration.

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    1. Red Devil Swede
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      Coutinho is worth it.

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    2. Piggs Boson
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      If Liverpool grabs Heno I will probably get him. He seems full of assists and goals.

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    3. Jafalad
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      Coutinho and possibly Studge if Suaz clears off.

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      1. Licky
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        10 years, 10 months ago

        True, but if Heno and Aspas perform well it'll make it a difficult choice, especially if Aspas is on the cheaper end of the Striker spectrum.

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    4. NABIL - FPL otai
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      Coutinho is the one i'm getting, but only if he stays 7.0 max.

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    5. Licky
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      It could end up that Liverpool will have several good options, considering Suarez' goal tally last season and the reliance on him it would seem that if the new players perform Liverpool will score more goals than last season (71) and it could potentially lead to less draws with no reliance on Suarez each player could step up adding to what may look like a Round Robin situation.

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      1. Fray Bentos
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        Actually if you remove all of suarezs goals Liverpool would have finished in the same position – not as reliant as you might think

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  4. Kings of Lyon ★
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    Any of the old dogs kicking around seen any of the following this year? -

    Greg
    Soop
    Herman murman
    O Fem

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    1. Christina.
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      Soop came on here not to long ago raving about buying an expensive bunch of flowers for a girl. Greghammer I've not seen for years. Even Tosey has disappeared.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        Good to hear, I know he was a bit dejected about the Donna situation. I miss his lunches. Tosey disappears in the offseason, it appears he may actually have a life outside FF

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        1. heco87
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          Lol true. Tosey went missing a bit from Jan onwards last season but think that was partly due to his FF fortunes. Was still on twitter a fair bit though.

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
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            Aye he was a bit behind in his cash MLs took some risks that didnt pay off. I agree though, def see him on Twitter more

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    2. heco87
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      Seen Soop a few times, seems like he's doing alright. Haven't seen the others (Although I don't remember Herman)

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        Herman was a teacher (i think in oz), big Celtic fan with good banter. His grav was a chubby kid in a grey jumper with curly blond hair

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        1. heco87
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          Must've been before my time.

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    3. Jafalad
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      What doppelganger does Boom wear these days?

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    4. iCon
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      Think I saw O Fen, but can't remember if it was before or after end of season. Haven't seen him in a long time before that though, that's why i recall it (just not when 🙂 )

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        Haha, yeah havent seen him about in a bit. He gave me a tip on an icelandic game around Oct that landed and ive never seen him since. Good banter that chap

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        1. iCon
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          Great for tips, got a load of baseball ones off him pre-season last year; most came in.

          Was a thoroughly decent chap too.

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  5. Squeakybumtime
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    Do you think it's possible to get a WHU/SOT pair and STO/NOR pair for around 18m. Would love this. Aloows so much flexibility elsewhere. 20m probably more realistic is it?

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    1. heco87
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      Yeah, I'd say you're probably looking at 5m / 4.5m and 5m / 5m for assured starts.

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      1. Squeakybumtime
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        Dont fancy the Hull/CPL pairing. Can see very few cleansheets there.

        Maybe A Demel like player will emerge from somewhere for 4m, could stomach 19m, not 20m on 4 rotators

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        1. heco87
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          Yeah it'll happen, it always does.. like Danny Simpson of 2 years ago and B Davies last year.

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
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      that's what i'm doing.

      5.0 (Bego/Stek) 4.5 (Ruddy)
      6.5 (CHE) 4.5 4.5 (WHU/SOT) 4.5 4.0 (Hull/CP)

      a pretty massive 33.5 at the back. oops.

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      1. Squeakybumtime
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        Think 33.5 seems about right. A 6m fwd, two 5m rotating mid, leaves 50.5 for 3 mid and 2 fwd. 4 heavy hitters and a 6.5 mid? Sounds nice

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        1. NABIL - FPL otai
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          cheers Mr. SqueakyBumTime. nice set up for mids and strikers too, but i'd prefer a 4.5 (Kaca/Punch) as back up as i usually play 3-4-3.. give me money for 2 starting 6m mids (Nolan and Snoddy perhaps) to back a very big hitter (Bale/CHE mids) and another 9.0/8.5 mid (Walcott/Coutinho).

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          1. Squeakybumtime
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            Ya thats the exact model i started with last year. Could all change after a few weeks though

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  6. TorresMagic™
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    Just Soop once I think.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Reply fail ftw.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        Hah 🙂 you're better than that buddy. Remember to look for that 'cancel' button 😉

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Could have just removed it too. Long day...

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  7. DonTheSpecialOne
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    Top o' the morning to ya! Anyone seen Saints new 13/14 kits? Imo they look really good!
    http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/gallery-saints-go-allin-884612.aspx

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  8. Saniul
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    I've seen some people say that goalkeepers from promoted clubs are all priced at 4.5, but is that something which must happen? I mean, does a goalkeeper's price merely reflect the defensive strength of a team, or is it a mirror of his own capabilities as well?

    It will be interesting to look at some teams (and cases, included in braces) where defenders and the goalkeeper might have a price discrepancy.

    1. Sunderland (New keeper) - Last year, they only had two first-team defenders who were actually listed as defenders (O'Shea, 5.0 and Cuellar, 4.5). Rose and Gardner were midfielders (reverse OOP, so no question of their prices coming into consideration). Even though they had an iffy season, lacking tooth in attack, 11 clean sheets look quite a good haul. We should expect the entire Sunderland to be priced around the 5.0 mark (Gardner, with set-piece duties, will probably be 5.5). But Westwood, who was Sunderland's second choice keeper, doesn't seem to have enough PL experience under his belt to warrant a price of 5.0. 4.5 looks the right price for him, unless FPL decides to rate him according to the quality of the Sunderland.

    2. West Ham (Keeper with high save ratio, Keeper rotation) - To say that Jaaskelainen had a superb season by FPL standards, would be an understatement. My season keeper (and probably many of yours), he racked up more than 100 saves, and ended on 144 points- 25 more than O'Brien, their highest scoring defender. Even though WHU had a good defensive record all season, their defenders should be reasonably priced around the 5.0 mark like Sunderland. However, if only his last year's record is taken in account, Jaaskelainen should have been priced 5.5. But then, the arrival of Adrian from Real Betis makes the situation interesting. He is a good keeper, and he should offer Jaaskelainen, who is 38, some competition. Therefore, the positive and negative impact balances, and should keep Jaaskelainen at 5.0, the same price as Rat, O'Brien, Reid and Collins (Sorry, Demel).

    3. Liverpool (Keeper roation) - Firstly, Liverpool defenders will be costly. Honestly, I don't expect Agger, GJ or Enrique to come at less than 6.5, and the fourth defender spot will be rotated. Reina should have been 6.5 though, but here enters Mignolet. Two experienced PL keepers, FPL might want to screw us by pricing both at 6.5, but they generally don't (Remember de Gea and Lindegaard last season?). We expect Mignolet to emerge at first-choice, and at anything less than 6, we might be keen to keep him in our team.

    4. Arsenal (Keeper loses form) - Szczesny has had a bad season. Had Fabianski not got injured, it would have been tougher for him to win back his place. Though it is safe to agree that he is still the No. 1, the looming threat of Fabianski should keep his price down. Assuming that Mertesacker, Koscielny and Sagna come at 6 (I won't touch Arsenal left-backs), won't you be intrigued by a 5m Szczesny? I will, unless someone like Cesar arrives. So should you think Szczesny, being the Arsenal first choice, be priced similarly as their premium defenders?

    All the cases ask the same question. Should the defender pricing and defensive potential have more say in goalkeeper pricing ahead of their performance, or goalkeeper situation in the team?
    I don't think so.

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    1. heco87
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      Surely it's both with defenders from a team being priced higher if they offer a good chance of attacking returns? Maybe I'm missing your point, but I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Well, I'm trying to predict what gets preference when goalkeepers of a team is priced, and does it generally correspond to the average defender pricing of that team as a whole.

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        1. heco87
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          I'd say it is and the price of the defenders then varies based on their potential rather than the other way round.

          Arsenal for example, I'd say Szczesny will start at £5.5m again and Mertesacker & Sagna will be the same. Koscielny possibly edging towards £6.0m based on threat going forwards. GKs tend then to get overpriced the following season if they did particularly well ... Vorm and Krul this season being prime examples, i.e. Begovic & Jaaskeleinen next season.

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          1. Saniul
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Yes, but most of the mid-table sides don't have a standout goalscoring defender. Norwich have some, but they offer equal attacking threat. Hence, I think most of the teams will have similarly priced defenders, especially the likes of Sunderland, West Ham, Stoke City, Fulham and Norwich.

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            1. heco87
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Ok, we shall agree to disagree. I'd say all of the above bar West Ham have a standout attacking returns defender.

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    2. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Personally, I'm hoping for..

      Krul (5.0) Westwood (4.5)
      Cashley/Terry (6.0) WestHamDef (4.5) Shaw/Clyne (4.5) NorwichDef (4.5) HullDef (4.0)

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Westwood and Jaaskelainen are likely to be favourably priced, due to reasons I stated. Theae two and Ruddy are the ones I'm looking at.

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        1. The92nd
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          10 years, 10 months ago

          Can't see westwood at 4.5, I'd expect 5.0 based on the relatively good defence sunderland had last season.

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      2. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
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        Don't think you can get A.Cole/Terry at 6.0, most probably 6.5 like ivan did. (Terry even cost 7.0 last time around!).

        Another issue is getting a WHU defender for 4.5 to perfectly rotate with Shaw/Clyne. I think their starters will begin at 5.0, just like Swansea & Stoke defenders of last season.

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    3. roscola
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      I'm really, really hoping for Mignolet at £5.5m and Reina to leave before GW1.

      But I absolutely wouldn't get a keeper with a reasonable rotation threat hanging over him. Just not worth it.

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      1. Saniul
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        10 years, 10 months ago

        Sometimes, that acts as a boon later in the season if a keeper reasonably priced due to rotation threat becomes nailed-on. Exactly what happened with de Gea last season.

        I guess something similar might happen in Liverpool. Don't think Reina will leave, but Migs will cement his place in the XI by the time January WC arrives.

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  9. FACUPARSE
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Funny Man U bidding £12m for Baines when only last or the season before Moyes himself (when at Everton) described a £12m bid for Baines as derisory.

    Not a good start.

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    1. Squeakybumtime
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Opening bid only a feeler. Could see a fee of 17m being accepted

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    2. Granville
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Who said they bid for Baines last season? More paper talk.

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  10. FACUPARSE
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Italy were very good last night. Candreva and Giaccorini looked great.

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    1. Squeakybumtime
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      His penalty was quality too. Some balls to do that for the first penalty

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    2. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      *Giaccherini

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      2. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        The worst thing is you had to google the spelling of that name to correct me. Very sad

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        1. SuperOsçarBaby
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          is in my head.... loser

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          1. FACUPARSE
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Can you stop trying to make daily contact with me please.

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            1. SuperOsçarBaby
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              you started it first

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              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 14 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                That's enough guys, cheers. 🙂

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  11. Squeakybumtime
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Any one hear anything about Julio Cesar? Presume he is going to leave/has left QPR. He's Brazil's first choice ffs. As Saniul said above surely arsenal are monitoring this? And what about Reina, have I read somewhere that Arsenal are interested again. Honestly cant see Rodgers paying 11m for a backup, or dropping Reina, somethings gotta give!

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    1. FACUPARSE
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Would prefer Cesar at Arsenal then Reina for some reason even though he's a few years older...

      Reina isn't the keeper he was of a few years ago.

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      1. Licky
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        He did well at the end of last season though.

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      2. Squeakybumtime
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I think Reina just had a blip, and is perhaps less likely to do something extravagant than Cesar

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    2. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I wish he'd go to Crystal Palace - then my Cesar's Palace would really be good 🙂

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      1. Squeakybumtime
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Nice. Called myself Fritzl Palace last season. Bad taste?

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        1. iCon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          😆 very much so

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        2. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          oof!

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  12. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Rather surprised nobody has popped up with a Hulk grav yet 😀

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    1. The Shaman
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      So last season, dahling................

      ................this season needs something more sparkly!! 🙂

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  13. charlie1X
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Haggling is second nature to a former Everton manager.

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  14. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Score Predictions for Brazil vs Spain?

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    1. Squeakybumtime
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      1-0 Spain

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    2. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      2-2 extra time, oscar score the winner

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        2-2, Luiz sent off for feigning injury, Oscar comes out of the closet.

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        1. SuperOsçarBaby
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          cazorla and monreal with the own goals and embarrassing their club and country, what a shame.

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    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I dunno, good repetition for WC 2014 final?

      Have you seen WC winner odds?

      Brazil 7/2
      Argies 9/2
      Jerries 5/1
      Spain 11/2
      Belgium 16/1
      Holland & Italy 20/1
      Eng 22/1
      Croatia 125/1

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Belgium above Italy, Holland Croatia and even England is a joke.

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Odds look good to me tbh

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      2. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Spain are due a failure.

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      3. Squeakybumtime
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        What bookmakers is giving those odds? Surely Spain can't be 4th favourites

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Betxchange, SA

          https://www.betxchange.co.za/

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      4. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Spain are a good bet at 11/2 but Belgium shouldn't be shorter than Italy. They have no history of competing for the big prize. One semi I think.

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        1. FACUPARSE
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Haven't been to a tournament for 12 years.

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          1. Granville
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            The heat and conditions in Brazil will kill many of the European sides. England, Holland and Belgium have little chance.

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            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Looking forward to spain/Brazil confed final

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      5. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        My market has Belgium closer to 20/1. 5th fav though is surprising.

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          My brother put money on Belg @20/1

          Odds came down from 25->20>16/1

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          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I can get 20/1 now. Wouldn't take 50s.

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      6. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        where's tahiti?

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Knocked out already.

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        2. FACUPARSE
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Stop it, my sides are spliiting...

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      7. roscola
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        😆 England nearly the same as Italy! 😆

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  15. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    "Montpellier have accepted various bids for star midfielder Belhanda. 2 from the Premier League, and 1 from the Russian League." Tottenham reported to be the PL club.

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      and Newcastle the second one.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ooh, he could be interesting in the PL

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        If Newcastle sign both Aubameyang and Belhanda, Kinnear might not be that big of a douche after all..

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  16. Portsmouth Bubblejet
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    British shinguard manufacturers weep bitter tears of regret - Emanuel Pogatetz is ending his loan period at West Ham and signing for 1.FC Nuremberg.

    And Southampton's new first-team kit dispenses with their traditional white stripes completely. Not as bad as Cardiff's corporate re-branding, but close.

    http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/201314-kits-revealed-884607.aspx

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  17. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    i love a bit of FFS reminiscing...this was the scout report on michu just over a year ago..hindsight is a great looking back at peoples thoughts and rmts 🙂 i liked the replies to this 1

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2012/07/23/scout-report-michu/?hc_page=2&hc_sort_by=comment_date#hc_comments

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      *replies to COMHs post i mean halfway down the page.."Best midfielder for £6m excluding Michu?" 🙂

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    2. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Great stuff. I think the one lesson we can take from that is that FPL don't give a shrew's todger for the opinions of us plebs on the FFS boards when it comes to pricing players. So we can all relax about that 🙂

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  18. SWFC_GMGM
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Are Chelsea linked with any Premier League players? Just thinking we may be able to get 4 Chelsea players for GW1 😀

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      only rooney is linked to chelsea

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I doubt they'll sell Rooney. And if they do it won't be to a Premier League club.

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      2. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Luke Shaw, Fellaini and Benteke has also been linked to Chelsea.

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        1. SuperOsçarBaby
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          luke shaw yes, the others are impossible.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      hah? how?

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      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        by getting 3 chelsea, a guy linked to chelsea and hope he moves after you make your team?

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      2. SWFC_GMGM
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Say if, Rooney for example, moves to Chelsea after the game has launched, you'd be able to get him as a United player plus 3 Chelsea players.

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  19. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Is anyone getting BT broadband for next season so you get some free Premier League matches and ESPN?

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I am, yes. 38 games including quite a few first picks - should be some good ones. I love this table which shows how the picks are broken down:

      http://www.sportingintelligence.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Prem-UK-rights-split-2013-161.jpg

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      18 "first-pick matches" (THE BEST MATCHES)
      38 in total

      Sky will have 116 games though, I assume that contains all the Stoke matches.

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      1. heco87
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Aye, quite a few first pick games at 12:45 on a Saturday 🙂

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    3. Licky
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      It'll be grand, so it will. Gillette Soccer Saturday followed by Premier Soccer Saturday followed by the Ramblings of Lawro and Shearer.

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    4. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Worth looking into GB. Is there a catch? Initially looks too good to be true.

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  20. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Bit of a time waster; what's your

    1) Favourite Grav
    2) Favourite Name
    3) Name/Grav combo

    Mine off the top of my head are

    1) Just a hat
    2) Giggs Boson
    3) Christian (Grav = Bale) also KoL's pretty good too

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    1. Licky
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Rickie Lambert (EA Sports hoodie)
      Licky Lambert
      Licky Lambert - Rickie Lambert (EA Sports hoodie)

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      1. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        hmmmm, thought this might happen 🙂

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      im not in for kinnear
      ball sack

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        *im not for kinnear

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        1. iCon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Clever, seems a new addition this one

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    3. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      and 3 "hello..this is dog"

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    4. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      1) Sheep
      2) Fifa las Vegas
      3) Sheep

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      1. Sheep
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        🙂

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    5. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      It seems to me that you are looking for a sticky 😉

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      1. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        For this post? 😯

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    6. Beautiful Game
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      you missed my grav 😉

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      1. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I didn't actually, I considered yours along with Willis' 😉

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    7. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      😳 Cheers Icon 🙂

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      1. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        It's a great name! If you hadn't posted right above me though, it might have looked like i didn't just chose the first name I saw 😛

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    8. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks buddy 🙂

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  21. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    "Hottest" rumors today:

    "Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez, 27, tops the list of targets for Manchester City as they look to replace Carlos Tevez. Sevilla's Alvaro Negredo, Roma's Pablo Osvaldo and Benfica's Oscar Cardozo are also in contention."

    Alcaraz and Kone might join Martinez to Everton

    "Bale's future at White Hart Lane has been made "clear" to Spurs target Paulinho. The 24-year-old Brazilian midfielder reveals he is on the verge of joining from Corinthians, with assurances given about Bale staying at the club."

    "West Bromwich Albion are interested in Manchester City winger Scott Sinclair, 24, with the former Swansea player hoping to go out on loan."

    "Manchester City defender Micah Richards, 25, is a surprise target for Champions League winners Bayern Munich. The German champions are willing to pay £14m for Richards, who has two years remaining on his current contract."

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      please make Negredo to City happen!! 😉

      If Paulinho join spurs that will be good for their defense.

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Haven't seen Negredo play that much tbh, Paulinho would be a great asset to Spurs and PL!

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        1. SuperOsçarBaby
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          if negredo joins any team in epl, he's straight in my team.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      😯 richards 😯 14million 😯 😯 😯

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Got any links there Don? Not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to see the whole stories.

      Richards £14Mil, City should rip their arms off for that deal. Oh dear Sinclair might go, what will I do for City cover now?

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Brilliant, thanks very much for taking the time Don.

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  22. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    How many years has Baines left on contract?

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      30.06.2015

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    1. Damo.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Mark, just wondering if ye were planning to stick these rotation articles where people can find em? The other two are already lost to the archives and we're still 2 months to kickoff

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      1. FantaCity
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Ditto.
        Have bookmarked them when I can, but would be good to have them compiled somewhere for later on

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  24. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Why are some people down on Micah Richards? He is an excellent player ...

    Can't see the bloody wood for the trees, some of you ... 😛

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    1. The3rdTurd
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Funny how most fans think he is underrated, and every manager he plays for seems to think he's overrated.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        He has a strong independent streak.

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