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The Ultimate Fantasy Premier League (UFPL)’s transfer window closes ahead of Gameweek 4, leaving Fantasy managers with the tough decision of which players to select before the next window opens in January. Here is a guide to making sure you get the most out of this week’s frantic UFPL transfer deadline day dash for the best players.

Unlike Fantasy Premier League (FPL), UFPL is an in-Gameweek game offering the added flexibility of selecting a large bench to swap out poor performers playing on Matchday 1 for those playing playing on Matchday 2 or Matchday 3.

Prior to the transfer window closing managers have had five transfers allocated to them each week.  These can be carried over but only until the transfer deadline, which means there may be some who have 15 transfers to make ahead of the window closing. All will have at least five transfers to make.

In addition, there are extra points available in UFPL that favour defensive midfielders and centre-backs

Match Days 2 & 3

The key to a good UFPL squad selection is ensuring  you include a good sprinkling of quality players that can be brought in later in the Gameweek. Here is a handy list compiled by Goonerbyron of the number of Matchday 2 and 3 games each team has. This shows that investment in Everton, Tottenham and Manchester United players could be crucial to success.

Matchday 2

8 games – Tottenham
7 games – Everton
5 games – Man Utd
4 games – Chelsea, Man City, QPR
3 games – Chelsea, West Brom, Southampton,
2 games – Aston Villa, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Hull, Liverpool, Newcastle, Sunderland, Swansea, Stoke
1 game – West Ham, Leicester

Matchday 3
1 game – Aston Villa, Crystal Palace, Hull, Man Utd, Newcastle, QPR, Southampton, Stoke, Sunderland, West Brom, West Ham.

Forget Nailed On

In UFPL there is less importance to being nailed on as you have the option to swap them out if they only make a substitute appearance or fail to play. This makes ‘flair’ players who aren’t nailed on, who play mainly on Matchday 1 and are capable of large scores being good options in UFPL. Andre Schurlle could be a good pick based on this criteria.

Goalkeepers Get Added Points

There’s more to scoring points in goal than just cleanies and saves in UFPL. Additional points are received for Recoveries and it’s worth noting that Swansea’s Lucasz Fabianski is the only one to receive two recovery points in one game.

Centre-backs are King

Looking at the scoring so far it’s fairly clear already that in UFPL centre-backs rather than the wing-backs or full-backs are king when it comes to scoring additional points. As well as points for  Rcoveries points are also available for Clearances, Blocks and Interceptions (CBI), a criteria that favours centre backs. That makes the likes of  Curtis Davies, Laurent Koscielny, Dejan Lovren, Per Mertesacker and Ryan Shawcross very attractive. Interestingly, Arsenal’s Calum Chambers is the only player to have received bonus points in each game for recoveries. However, numerous players have received additional points each game for CBI and several have received two points in a game on one occasion. Leicester’s Wes Morgan looks a great option in the budget defender category.

Other notable candidates among centre-backs are those from the above list of teams with multiple Matchday 2 and 3 fixtures. This includes Everton’s Phil Jagielka, QPR’s Steven Caulker and Manchester United’s Phil Jones.

Having a good mix is key, though. While centre-backs are more likely to bag additional points, the goal and assist potential of attacking full-backs shouldn’t be overlooked. There will always be a good case to select the likes of Southampton’s Nathaniel Clyne and Arsenal’s Mathieu Debuchy.

Dismiss ball-winners at your peril

Take a bow Fabrice Mulumbu who sits in the top five in both CBI and recoveries after three games. Another with similar appeal is Mile Jedinak. These players may not grab the headlines in FPL, but in UFPL they can be a steady source of points thanks to the additional CBI points on offer. Another in this category of note is West Ham’s Mark Noble, as he also has penalties to his name. Hull’s Tom Huddlestone is another high performer in this category and was one of the surprise stars of the UFPL Beta test version last season.

Attacking Punts Can Pay Off

It can take time for players to bed into new teams and formations after the real-life transfer window has closed. In UFPL with the in-Gameweek changes there is the luxury to take a punt on new players like Southampton’s Dusan Tadic and hope they become integral to their side.  Personally I expect big things in UFPL in midfield from the likes of Newcastle’s Remy Cabella and Tadic, even though neither have racked up enough points or created enough chances to to date to suggest this will be the case. The same goes for Tottenham’s Eric Lamela who will look to bounce back from a terrible first season in England.

Differentials can also be gold in UFPL. Everyone will have Raheem Sterling but the well established likes of Arsenal’s Santi Cazorla, Tottenham’s Christian Eriksen, Manchester City’s Kevin Mirallas and Manchester City’s Samir Nasri offer great differentials, especially considering that additional bonus points can also be achieved for crosses, key passes and big chances created. Even if the players around them don’t convert those passes into assists they will still be racking up the points.

The same goes for cheaper forward differentials. Hull’s Nikica Jelavic and Arsenal’s new recruit Danny Welbeck offer the potential to match the points offered by more popular choices such as Diego Costa and Wayne Rooney.

Further information: Gavigan, who won last year’s Beta version of UFPL has posted his guide to the game here, in addition to this article on squad selection. Both give a good run-down on the rules of the game.

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  1. J0E
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Great guide. Cheers. Helped me make up my mind on certain players. Looks like I'll be keeping Caulker then.

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      2nd this.

      I really appreciate the MD1, MD2, MD3 roundup in particular. Awesome work!!

      1. J0E
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        • 16 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I've just updated it as some of the TV fixtures had changed since Goonerbyron first highlighted this list. Looks like a spurs def.mid and attacker look good. Adebayor is already in my team and stays. Great Matchday 2 striker. Looking at Chadli too as an option as well as Dier.

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Chadli is going in based on this. He's cheap enough to leave on the bench and good enough to be called on with some confidence. Could be great value.

          Adebayor is a headache, I wanted to switch him for Benteke... Aguero and Costa are my others (Rooney is staying as a good MD2'er)... 🙁 "I want Benteke!" *spits dummy out*

          Already had Kaboul so i'll stick with him now too.

  2. pureklaas
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Caulker, Ashley Williams, Jags, Shawcross....looking at all these types of players. Going to take 2 complete punts, 1 in midfield 1 in attack but the rest will be like my FPL team thinking

    1. J0E
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Another key point is pick players with a good injury record. Its for this reason I'm ignoring Aguero sadly. Dzeko or Silva look like better picks.

  3. UFPL investment analysis
    7shadesofsmoke
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    UFPL INVESTMENT ANALYSIS

    Decided to have a little look at the data for the opening three gameweeks in UFPL and thought I'd share my findings ahead of the final deadline for our squads. [For anyone unaware: Gameweek 4 is lockdown. No more transfers beyond costed loans]

    TLDR?
    + UFPL is all about the Milfs. Invest in a quality midfield of four to five stars and a few reliable scorers. Midfielders score the highest on average and represent the best (c) options, regardless of money. They also provide flexibility and have a higher chance of getting on the pitch than forwards (on average) due to formational restrictions.
    + Strikers are the best way to put money on the bench. You might as well write one or two off (super-cheapies) in favour of a quality Midfielder and/or defender.
    + Defence is the place to bargain hunt, but don't write players off, you might need them on your bench for flexibility.
    + Goalkeepers need serious Matchday consideration. You can only play one, try to get a cover 'keeper for each GW.

    THE LONG VERSION:

    About the game;
    1) The ratio of 'available players (your squad)' to 'playable players (formation restrictions)' is skewed.
    If we consider that Matchdays (MD) provide a chance for rotation across all positions and formations*, we'll stick with the maximum per position as a tool for comparison since all positions are equally likely to feature on any given MD.
    You will want players to be able to cover a range from back heavy 5-4-1 to top heave 4-3-3 so flexibility is an important feature in your squad for maximising opportunities off the bench.
    - A goalkeeper has a one in three chance of featuring in the final squad. This means ⅔ of your keeper investment is benched, no matter what.
    - Defenders are up to five from eight (⅜ wasted)
    - Mids match defenders for playability.
    - Strikers are three from six (half wasted, minimum)
    This means that any given midfielder or defender has a higher chance of contributing points than a striker (based on availability to play) and all outfielders hold a higher chance than the 'keeper.

    *Of course, MD1, MD2 and MD3 players are a major factor for consideration when assessing squad investment and this has been bypassed for this experiment.

    2) Prices are the same as the base prices from FPL.

    3) Points are accrued differently to FPL. Obvious, but when you consider point 2, this could have serious ramifications.
    - No bonus points
    - 6 points for a goal, anywhere on the pitch
    - Incremental performance points available e.g. missed chances (-1pt), key passes (3 = 1pt) etc (a whole new topic for anyone wanting an article 😉 )

    So, what does this mean for our UFPL Investment strategy?
    I wanted to know how the points were falling:
    - Which position was best suited to a different scoring system - who scored the most? (think armband)
    - Which position provided the best value in terms of points per pound (PPP)? (think squad filler)
    I then wanted to factor in the likelihood of a player actually featuring, the 'Playability' of your investment, which is a measure of how much money you can waste on the bench as a flip-side.

    + Well, it seems that midfielders are best suited to UFPL, making them excellent armband choices.
    They are scoring more points (average of top 16) than any other position, regardless of price, with an average score of 19.5 points from the opening 3 Gameweeks (GW). Strikers averaged 18 points from the top 12 by position, defenders averaged 17 from 16 and goalkeepers sit on 16.33 points from their top 6 performers.

    + Defenders were the best value by position, making them excellent squad filler.
    The top 16 defenders averaged 3.4 PPP, leading goalkeepers (3.16 PPP) and midfielders (2.88 PPP) with Strikers overburdened by those weighty FPL price tags (2.59) even though the likes of Ulloa, Berahino, Naismith, Jelavic, Chamakh and Weimann are doing their best to drag down the average cost.

    It's also worth considering that these two positions grant the most freedom for formational changes and make them excellent options for the bench. Easy to replace and easy to fit in.

    + Strikers were the most likely to waste your money (per player, on average), closely followed by goalkeepers by virtue of their 2/3 benched formational restriction.
    If we talk of a squad of averages, your strikers will lose 50% of their value on the bench, minimum. That's £3.92m per player. Goalkeepers waste £3.5m per man on average.

    + Defenders cement themselves as awesome squad filler, beating midfielders to the title of most economic position for investment. Your average priced defender from the top 16 scorers wastes just £1.88m on the bench by formational restriction. Midfielders might not be out there planting the trees, but with a average waste of £2.7m per man enforced across the top sixteen players, they're certainly worth the money over forwards.

    What does all this mean?

    J-LO > LOLO in UFPL
    + Invest with confidence in your midfield, 4 - 5 quality players and 2 - 3 strong options is very reasonable given their captaincy potential and value for money over forwards.
    + Defenders are the environmentalists. These guys are here to save you from conspicuous consumption with steady returns beyond their price tag. Don't treat them like FPL wasters.
    + 4 quality strikers is more than enough. One of them is going to sit on you bench as a minimum, no matter what. 3 big guns is very reasonable. WRITING OFF A STRIKER BRINGS THEIR PLAYABILITY TO 3/5 (0.6) IN LINE WITH MIDFIELDERS AND DEFENDERS (5/8 or 0.63) - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
    + Goalkeepers offer good value, as long as they play. Unfortunately, they don't bring home huge returns (lowest scoring position) and you can't whack in twin 'keepers to benefit from their value so you'll be forced to waste two thirds of your investment each week, no matter what. Look for rotation (MD1, MD2, MD3 options) here and don't spend heavy on individuals.

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      DATA ROUNDUP
      In terms of data selection, I took a sample from the opening three weeks of UFPL in proportion with squad size. The full squad ((3 x GK, 8 x DF, 8 x MF, 6 x FW) X2) gave a sample with the same ratio of players per position as our squads.

      Here is how they look, without considering playability:
      Goalkeepers (TOP 6 UFPL)
      Average points: 16.33
      Average investment (£): 5.25
      Average value (PPP): 3.16

      Defenders (TOP 16 UFPL)
      Average points: 17
      Average investment (£): 5
      Average value (PPP): 3.4

      Midfielders (TOP 16 UFPL)
      Average points: 19.5
      Average investment (£): 7.19
      Average value (PPP): 2.88

      Forwards (TOP 12 UFPL)
      Average points: 18
      Average investment (£): 7.83
      Average value (PPP): 2.59

      Playability factored in:
      Goalkeepers (1/3 chance of playing [collected points] 2/3 wasted)
      Average points collected per player: 5.44
      Average waste per player (£): 3.5

      Defenders (5/8 chance of playing [collected points] 3/8 wasted)
      Average points collected per player: 10.63
      Average waste per player (£): 1.88

      Midfielders (5/8 chance of playing [collected points] 3/8 wasted)
      Average points collected per player: 12.19
      Average waste per player (£): 2.7

      Forwards (1/2 chance of playing [collected points] 1/2 wasted)
      Average points collected per player: 9
      Average waste per player (£): 3.92

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        If you want the figures for the individuals, i have it on a Numbers spreadsheet and can email to anyone interested.

    2. J0E
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      wowzers. Great extra info.

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Someone asked me how many premium strikers i'd have...

        Ended up doing this.

        Amazingly, the conversation had moved on by the time I'd returned to the forum 😆

        1. J0E
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          • 16 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          I've currently got Rooney, Costa and Adebayor..Naismith, Jucti..Jwittzei..you know that Burnley guy, and Nugent.

          Nugent and the Burnley guy are for the chop...thinking Ulloa and another ...not sure yet.

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            sounds pretty solid.

            I'm actually thinking of getting Benteke in for Adebayor.

            I think you can afford to carry a striker or two if you invest well in midfield and defence. He could become a major differential mid-october when the fixtures improve and he's fully integrated again.

            Pretty much fixture proof anyway, so he'd be a reasonable punt even when he first returns too.

            1. J0E
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              • 16 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Weimann is the one I'm looking at...cheap, happy to bench...occasionally scores.

            2. GreenWindmill
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              • 14 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Hmm, hadn't considered 'carrying' an absentee with a view to a differential - I guess Walcott comes into that bracket too, if he gets fit and finds his feet he'd be an awesome UFPL player. I guess there's a balance to be struck between points lost due to a reduced squad, points gained once they're fit and the impact of the loan system. If I find that balancing point it's blind luck!

              1. 7shadesofsmoke
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                but with strikers so easy to replace (you can play just 1 of them if needs must) Benteke is easier to carry.

                Value is in defence and midfield, i personally think there are plenty of options to afford you the reduced striker quota.

                I like this variety in the game though, it's nice to be able to consider these things however they pan out 😀

                1. GreenWindmill
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 3 months ago

                  Yep, good points, imagine being in the 0.7% of Walcott owners if he's back by GW6 though 😉

                  1. 7shadesofsmoke
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 3 months ago

                    If only Walcott wasn't returning from such a serious injury. Same with Tekkers.

                    You just never know how well a player will come back from something like that. If it was a broken bone, I'd have no reservations but serious ligament and muscle injuries scare me.

                    If anyone is worth the gamble though, surely its Walcott.

    3. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      better than the article

    4. DavidLuizIsAHero
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Superb work, I think my squad balance fits this quite well

      Sturridge, Costa, Welbeck, Falcao, Ings & Zamora
      Fabregas, Sterling, Mirallas, Silva, Ramsey, Siggy, Ward-Prowse & Marney
      Alderweireld, Janamaat, Dier, PVA, Chester, Duff, Hutton, Moore
      DDG, Mannone, Krul

  4. J0E
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    This is turning into the must read article and thread for UFPL managers. Will keep checking back through the week. Great stuff.

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      might be worth guiding UFPL discussion here (like we did with RMTs)?

      I certainly think that a dedicated forum for different game formats would be beneficial.

      They'll move so much slower and people will be able to pick up on older, game-specific posts without trawling through 10 pages of "LOL@X" or "What do you think the next Man U line up will look like?".

      Could be a good temporary fix up.

      1. J0E
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        • 16 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Certainly good to guide UFPLers here.

  5. GreenWindmill
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    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Oh, praise the lord!

    Exactly the article and subsequent discussion I need 😀

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Nice grav there Molino!

      1. thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Good work fellas!

      2. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers, was a quick job so it's hardly sophisticated but it gets the point across 🙂

        Yours is a little more classy!

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          😎

          It looks good!

    2. J0E
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      that is one excellent grav.

      1. GreenWindmill
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Why thank you, I may keep it this way - it's nice and cheery 🙂

  6. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    My mum's going to win this and she doesn't analyse anything, therefore just give up now people....

    Good analyse though from all of the above so far....

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      haha, you're probably right OS.

      But the analysis is half of the fun 😀

  7. timPgoodwin
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I see the name 'Di Maria', the guy with stats so hot he could spontaneously combust any minute ... So I find a slot for him in my team, and then I look at the fact he's playing for MUFC and I take him back out again ... It's driving me mental!

    HELPS!

  8. Mozart_s Balls
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    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Great article and analisys, thumbs up!!!

    I have a question about the emergency loan system, maybe somebody can help me out?

    Rules are a bit confusing about this matter (or i don't understand it correctly):

    "Any number of players can be brought in for a period of up to 4 Gameweeks to temporarily replace players in your squad"

    BUT ALSO

    "Only one loan agreement can be in place at any one time."

    So, can i get more than one player in at the same time??

    1. GreenWindmill
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Yes - it's a slightly tricky one to explain.

      Basically, you can only have one loan agreement in place at any one time, but that loan agreement can be for as many players as you like.

      So, for example; say you take out a 3 week loan agreement for Aguero and Silva. After 1 week Walcott bursts onto the scene and you desperately want to loan him. Since you can only have a single loan agreement at any one time the only way to do this would be to cancel the first loan (you'd still have to pay the full cost) and then take out a new loan for Walcott (and Aguero and Silva if you still wanted them).

      Not sure if that's made things clearer or not 🙂

      1. Mozart_s Balls
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Thnx, i think i get it now. Might have to try it out to fully understand it :-)bto try it out to f

        1. Mozart_s Balls
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          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          damn tablet...nevermind after smiley

  9. gavigan
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Great article, I was just searching around trying to find the MD2 & 3 info and here it is!

    1. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Ooh, the man himself - any red hot tips for selection? 🙂

      1. gavigan
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I'll be out of wifi range from thursday onwards this week, so trying to sort out my transfers now. I think I have 10 but doubt I need to use them all. Everything the OP wrote makes sense around possible differentials, so I'll be picking a couple. Last year I left out some of the premium players that most managers had (Aguero, Hazard, Rooney notably) in favour of a balanced squad with some differentials and I'm thinking along similar lines for the next few months. Very interested in Tadic, will see if he makes it in as midfield spots are competitive. I just brought De Jong in last game week as I thought he would explode but instead I cursed him with injury.

        1. GreenWindmill
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Gah - you broke de Jong? 😡 😉

          One thing I think I'm going to do is steer clear of anyone with a bad track record for injuries - that does mean no Aguero though which could punish me badly.

          I've got 10 transfers too but I'll probably use mine, too many duff picks in my initial selection. Tadic is on my radar too, but as you say there seems to be a wealth of talent to pick from there - even discounting all the premium options (of which I want plenty) there are Eriksen, Lamela, Tadic, Cabella, Mirallas, Sigurdsson, Henderson, etc. It's surprisingly hard to whittle them down.

  10. gavigan
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    For what it's worth, I think having a strong midfield is the way to go too. The analysis to write off a striker holds up, but if you get a couple of injuries in this position you'll be wishing you hadn't done that. Injuries are going to play a bigger part in this game than people realize, my expectation is that squads will get very thin around November/December and having a strong bench will come into play. Or emergency loans.

  11. SW6
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Cheers all. very useful.

    Should start to get really interesting now.

    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Also, might be good if we could keep using this article for all things UFPL?

  12. Epic Fail
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    How close to the top do you reckon you need to be to be in with a shout of winning the whole thing?

    I was only a few points off first place in the beta, and now real money is involved I'm doing terrible 😀

    1. GreenWindmill
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I'm going to choose to believe that at this stage very little is decided - the selections you make now that you're stuck with for 15 weeks are what determines whether you have a chance or not. I went up from rank 16,107 to 204 in GW2 so I reckon anything's still possible 😀

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers. My bad start is my own doing, I didn't make my subs at the end of GW1. You're right though, it's a long old format, especially for this format. I'm sure there will be many instances of people not doing there subs.

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Long old game*…

        2. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Definitely, that's what made me abandon the beta last year - I missed a week and rage quit essentially. Hit every deadline and make the smart % choices each week and you'll stay in touching distance I reckon.

    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      The rankings are still quite compact. I'm at 2k and only ~40 points off top spot. I'd say the game doesn't properly start until now and November/December will be the most important GWs.

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        True enough. I don't actually expect to win, but it would feel good to at least be in the running. Hardly anyone plays this game (relatively speaking).

  13. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    "Beat the Beard" UFPL Classic League just been set up if anyone wants to take me on?

    41-3864

    1. Robben Mee Blind
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      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I'm in!

  14. Robben Mee Blind
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    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Fantastic article and analysis guys- nice one! Thought I had my transfers all sorted but this has given me plenty of pondering to do over the next few days. To Aguero or not to Aguero- the ultimate UFPL question!

    1. gavigan
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      That is the ultimate question! Points per game last year in UFPL Aguero was miles ahead of anyone else, but how reliably will he stay injury free between now and Christmas. Occasional rotation I believe is ok with the UFPL squad rules; if a key player only plays 75% of the time you'll still get good points from your bench replacement, whereas in FPL the 0 points that week will kill you. I'm currently in the not-Aguero camp, but that's more because my team balance would be messed up to bring him in and I wouldn't want to not have Costa. May take a risk though and change things up.

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I am going with Aguero. I have a strong enough time that even if he is injured I will be ok...

        Going for a strike force of Aguero Costa Rooney Ade Naismith Vas Te

        I might d/g Ade and get another premium midfield....

  15. djenzio
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    down to my last two transfers..

    the only 2 players I am not mad about is Ade + McGeady

    I could do Pelle + Chadli instead???

    any suggestions?

    1. Robben Mee Blind
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I'd go for Ade- you'll still have three good options up front then if Aguero does get injured, plus you'll have a reliable Sunday option to bring in, which Pelle wouldn't give you. I'm currently going with 4 of your 6 forwards btw- Aguero, Costa, Rooney and Naismith. I've got kane currently rather than Ade - can't afford him, but have also got spurs cover in my midfield in form of Eriksen

  16. gavigan
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I'd take Pelle over Adebayor, and Chadli is good for a 6.0 differential. There are others too.

    1. Rossaldinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I'm a bit torn over a similar dilemma. I currently have Chadli and think that Tadic might be a better bet over the next 3 gameweeks. If I upgrade to Tadic I will not be able afford Pelle over Naismith if I need to change. What do you reckon?

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        decisions decisions....

        I think Tadic is a great pick but I just can't squeeze him in unless I get rid of Silva which I don't really want to do....

        Chadli is a good punt too...

        Naismith should be good for the season, as good as Pelle if not better so maybe go with Naismith and Tadic?? Also Naismith offers good Sunday options in the same way Spurs players do

        thanks for the help everyone....I am very torn between Ade and Pelle but Robben Me Blind could be onto something with Ade offering good Sunday options.

  17. Mozart_s Balls
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    23 places filled, can't decide on last two. I don't know if it even makes sense with the complexity of squads but let's give it a try 🙂

    A) Silva + Ade
    B) Aguero + Chadli

    Other strikers are Rooney, Costa, Welbeck, 4.5, 4.5 and a decent midfiled of 7

    1. djenzio
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      yeah it's very complex to try and ask for advice with the massive squads....

      I have Silva, Ade and Aguero but no Chadli...

      I think Aguero + Chadli are a better option but you run the risk of Aguero injury and Chadli being dropped.....You have good cover with other strikers if Aguero does get injured though.....

      this thread is great cause it moves so slow you actually get advice! really appreciate everyone digging in. We should have made a collective team in FFS and split the money!!

      Maybe people should link their full teams to get better advice? or does it get too complex? there are just so many more variations available than in regular FPL

      1. Mozart_s Balls
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers man; i think i'm gonna take the risk with Aguero, maybe he won't get injured so much this year 🙂
        I also think the loan system is not so harsh and there's gonna be players during the season you'll defenetly want to bring in.

        Funny thing is, even with such big squad there's still some dilemmas that remain. For example, i just put a few hours in building my squad today, but i still have some problems with MD distribution of players in some gameweeks. No matter what i do (rotating between suitable teams), my squad is very thin for MD2 in GW 4, 6, 12 & 13. I think you just can't plan the whole thing as you wish. Interesting!!

        1. djenzio
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah hopefully he will have no major injuries and as you say there is always the option of the loan if you need it.

          yeah I gave up on trying to build a squad that has good MD2 and 3 options. I know teams like Spurs and Everton seem to have a fair few 'easy' MD2 fixtures, I don't think it's the right way to go.

          For the coming Gameweek there is only one match MD2 and one MD3 so for I have a lot of issues of who to play because 90% of my team is playing MD1....

          I think if you have a good balanced team it will also be somewhat MD balanced as well..

          I really like UPFL but until January there is a lot of luck involved in terms of injuries.

          Are you going for any risky picks like Theo or Tekkers??

          1. Mozart_s Balls
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Well, my risky picks are Chadli, Tadic, Welbeck.
            I just couldn't convince myself to leave out current maveric picks like Fabs, Ramsey, Sterling, Costa etc....for injured players. I think there's going to be enough time for those guys, when current "stars" get injured - it's inveitable i guess.

          2. Robben Mee Blind
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            My only risky pick is Aguero, injury-wise

      2. Robben Mee Blind
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Good calling Team FFS - we would kick ass!
        Linking to teams wouldn't be that helpful while transfers still available - I think we'd only get to see what each other's squads were for the previous game week and with so many transfers available they could look very different for the next week. Once window closes perhaps - could help inform decisions about loans

        1. Robben Mee Blind
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          *Good call on

        2. djenzio
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          not even linking teams but typing them out and asking for advice....it's hard to offer advice without seeing full team...

          i'll give it a try:

          Krul Mannone Elliot

          Ivan Moreno Arnat Clyne Chester Wilson Duff Hutton

          Fab Sterling Siggy Ramsey Silva McGeady Noble Marney

          Ade Rooney Aguero Costa Naismith VazTe

          2 transfers left...

          McGeady is my only concern but am willing to downgrade Ade or Silva to upgrade McGeady....

          any suggestions/feedback?

          1. Mozart_s Balls
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            How about McGeady to Jedinak? You allready have Everton attacking cover with Naismith. Jedinak should get you a steady stream of points, but nothing spectacular. You can even exclude him to permanent bench (7 players) in some harder matches.

            1. djenzio
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              I was thinking that...I oringally had Huddleston instead of McGeady and for some insance reason went McGeady!!

              Jedinak is good but I already have Noble who seems to always get a steady stream of 4 points most weeks...plus the odd big score and he is on pens

              If I got Jed I could use that .5 to make Mannone -> Bego.....or even do Wilson -> Pieters??

              too many decisions....:(

          2. Mozart_s Balls
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Well, mine is:

            Forster - Krul - Gilks
            Cahill - Jones - Debuchy - Jagielka - Shawcross - PVA - Wisdom - Moore
            Fabs - Ramsey - Sterling - Tadic - Siggy- Chadli - Noble - Jedinak
            Costa - Rooney - Aguero - Welbeck - Zamora - Vaz Te

            No Everton attack worries me; could do Tadic -> Mirallas, but he also gets injured a lot. Plus i really rate Tadic, also more differential, easy fixtures (Everton will suffer cause of EL)

            1. djenzio
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              yeah a lack of Everton attack could be a problem....Mirallas a good punt but I think Tadic is the way to go. Wish I could get him in myself...

              can you get Naismith in?

              the only other issue I see is lack of Pool...just one player and they have a very good run of fixtures coming up.

              Maybe Jones -> Lovren??

              1. Mozart_s Balls
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                I guess Jedinak to 4.5 mid and 4.5 striker to Naismith is the way to go.
                You're right about Liverpool, have to think of something...

                1. djenzio
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 3 months ago

                  yeah lots of good Pool options...

                  Sturridge, Balo, Lallana, Hendo, Sterling, Moreno, Gerrard, Manquello, Lovren....

                  I am a LFC fan so I feel the need to get 2 players for my own peace of my mind!!

            2. Robben Mee Blind
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Mozart- you could perhaps downgrade a def by 0.5 to upgrade Noble to Hendo. Considering doing the same myself- I've only got Sterling atm too

              1. djenzio
                • 11 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                hendo is a very good option....i kinda like Noble myself cause he is on pens and has scored very well so far...

          3. Robben Mee Blind
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Looks good, Not sure about how nailed Amat is though- didn't they sign a central defender in the window to replace Chico?

            1. Robben Mee Blind
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              This was reply to Djenzio's team post

            2. djenzio
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              hmmm. I did have Nayler and then decided to get Arnat instead cause his UFPL stats are much better.....didn't realise he wasn't nailed on....hmmm

              1. Robben Mee Blind
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                I'm not sure about that but could be worth looking into. I've gone for Naylor

                1. djenzio
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 3 months ago

                  yeah think Arnet is gonna loose his spot. Naylor has very bad UFPL stats compared to other def so I think I might go for Williamson..seems a points magnet..

                  1. Robben Mee Blind
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 3 months ago

                    So many factors to consider isn't there!? Love it but it's driving me a bit mad!

                    1. djenzio
                      • 11 Years
                      11 years, 3 months ago

                      Williams I meant....

                      yeah it's a headache!

  18. Adds04
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Who is thinking about shaw, he should play this week and with falco loving crosses who will provide them?

    1. djenzio
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      yeah could be a good shout and a good differential.

      I am happy to have Roo as my only Utd coverage and don't have space in my defence for Shaw but think he is defo an option

  19. Robben Mee Blind
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    This is what I'm thinking of going with after using my transfers:
    Lloris, Krul, Green
    Baines, Ivan, Pieters, Naylor, Vlaar, Clyne, Chester, Wisdom,
    Ramsey, Fab, Sterling, Siggy, Eriksen, Noble, Davis (Steven), Albrighton
    Costa, Aguero, Rooney, Naismith, Berahino, Kane

    Thoughts? (Decided to go with 3 playing keepers)

  20. djenzio
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    very nice team

    so far looks like we all have a pretty similar core...could be hard to catch up points as most people are gonna have a 'template' team.....

    1. Robben Mee Blind
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah. What's your current rank?

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        253

        you?

  21. Robben Mee Blind
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Ha-right behind you: 262

    1. Robben Mee Blind
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Reply fail!

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        oh very nice.....

        not much between us and number 1 spot...but I think things are gonna tighten up points wise in the coming weeks.

        this coming gameweek is very hard cause most teams play MD1 so a lot of quality and big hitters are gonna be benched

        1. Robben Mee Blind
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Yep. I'm almost wishing Costa is ruled out to make it easier to select a line up for Saturday!

    2. Mid-Table Obscurity
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      who are you guys looking at for differentials?

      1. Mid-Table Obscurity
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        i include in 'differentials' the popular players you leave out as well btw

        1. djenzio
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Theo...Benteke....Chadli......Pelle.....Trippier......Moreno......Gastin Ramirez......

          1. Mid-Table Obscurity
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            bold, that's a third of your squad.

            1. djenzio
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              i was listing possible differentials in general...not ones I have...

              🙂

              I am going fairly safe with a two or three punts

      2. Robben Mee Blind
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I'm going to play it pretty safe I think. My probable team is posted above. Eriksen might end up being a differential if lots of people ship him out in favour of Lamela/Ade!

  22. Hammers Select
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Any update as to why the pressers wer today?