Moving Target

Moving Target – Sebastian Coates

Sunderland kick-started their summer spending spree last Wednesday with the acquisition of centre-half Sebastian Coates from Liverpool. Having spent last season on loan at the Stadium of Light, the 24-year-old has made his switch permanent, signing a four-year contract for a fee believed to be around the £2 million mark.

The Black Cats sporting director Lee Congerton hailed the player’s acquisition and reckons Coates’ previous year with the club will ensure he slots in seamlessly:

“Sebastian was an important part of the team under Dick [Advocaat] last season and we are delighted that he has joined us on a permanent basis. He has Barclays Premier League experience, which is important and, after spending last season on loan with us, he will be able to settle into the team very quickly.”

Coates, meanwhile, admitted that Dick Advocaat’s decision to stay at Sunderland, having previously quit the post, proved pivotal in persuading him to sign up:

“I think it was 90%, because he gave me confidence last year when he came [to the club] and for me it was very important to play and to be involved in the team. When the manager came [back], it was very important for me to be here. He gives the players confidence, the team, and the supporters. When he came we were not in a good moment, so he gave everyone confidence. He trusted in the team, that we could get safe and that was important. I’m really happy to be here. It is a pleasure for me to come back again. I will try to do my best this season and to help the team.”

The History

Born in Montevideo, Uruguay, Coates joined top-flight outfit Nacional from the age of 11, where he progressed through the youth set-up and assumed the role of captain at every level. Coates earned his first senior cap during the 2008/09 season, before spending the subsequent two campaigns as a starter in central defence, tallying career stats of five goals and seven assists across 78 outings.

In the summer of 2011, Coates made the switch across the Atlantic to Liverpool. The Uruguay international failed to muscle his way into first-team contention, mustering just 12 league appearances throughout his three seasons at Anfield. Coates suffered a knee injury in an international friendly prior to the start of the 2013/14 campaign, which ruled him out for the majority of the season. A loan move back to Nacional in the latter stages saw him chalk up five appearances in South America.

In the dying embers of the 2014 summer transfer window, Coates was shipped out to Sunderland on a season-long loan deal, teaming up with fellow-Uruguayan Guy Poyet. Coates saw limited involvement while Poyet was at the helm, however, and managed a mere three starts until his compatriot’s sacking in mid-March. Under Dick Advocaat’s stewardship, Coates started all of the Black Cats’ final six fixtures, with the Wearside club narrowly avoiding relegation by virtue of a five-match unbeaten streak from Gameweek 34.

After earning 10 caps for the Uruguay U20s, Coates registered his first start for the full team in the 2011 Copa America. Los Charrúas went on to scoop the trophy that year, with Coates named as the Young Player of the tournament. More recently, the six foot five inches centre-back clocked just two minutes in the 2014 World Cup, while he featured in a 1-1 draw to Paraguay in the 2015 Copa America. In all, Coates has recorded one goal in 17 appearances for Uruguay.

The Prospects

Having earned starts in the final six Gameweeks of the previous campaign, Coates will be hopeful of ousting Wes Brown from the starting XI to partner John O’Shea in the heart of Advocaat’s defence for the season ahead.

Although the Uruguayan’s improved pitch time was due to Brown sustaining another injury, it’s fair to say his impact over those final few matches, in which the Wearsiders secured their safety, was vital for the Black Cats. Between Gameweek 34 and 37, Sunderland were breached on just two occasions in five matches and gave up the fewest big chances (five) of any side in the league before their 3-1 loss to Chelsea on the final day of the season.

In terms of Sunderland’s defensive prospects, Patrick van Aanholt looks set to remain the prime route into their rearguard. The former Chelsea left-back tallied just 84 points last term – having sat out 10 matches in the middle of the season through injury – which should ensure that his value doesn’t increase beyond the 4.5 mark. Van Aanholt notched 17 more attempts on goal (30) than any other Sunderland backline option and averaged a shot every 81.2 minutes, which was fourth amongst defenders with 1000+ minutes. Furthermore, Van Aanholt crafted 25 more chances (35) than the next best among their back line and averaged a key pass every 69.6 minutes, which was third for defenders with a minimum of 1000 minutes in 2014/15.

If Coates is afforded a run in the side, however, his underlying stats paint a promising picture. Only two Sunderland defenders attempted more efforts than the former Reds recruit (seven), even though he clocked a paltry 872 minutes. In comparison, O’Shea (seven) and Brown (four) achieved their totals while being afforded 3448 and 2101 minutes of pitch time, respectively, suggesting that Coates’ aerial ability in the opposition box could be a real weapon for Advocaat’s outfit.

Elsewhere in the Sunderland backline, Costel Pantilimon – who amassed 123 points in 28 appearances over the previous campaign – is sure to attract investment from managers looking to source a cheap keeper. Despite finishing just two places above the relegation berths, Sunderland registered as many clean sheets as Arsenal (13) and only one fewer than Manchester City. Furthermore, only two sides (West Bromwich Albion and Liverpool) carded more clean sheets away from home than the Wearsiders, illustrating their proficiency at shutting up shop on the road. Pantilimon’s penchant for picking up save points looks key here – he earned at least one save point in 18 of his 28 appearances and averaged 4.4 points per game.

Looking at the fixtures, Sunderland enjoy a highly favourable start to the new season which is sure to earn Fantasy managers’ attention. Given that they face just two of last season’s top seven in the opening 11 Gameweeks (lei, NOR, SWA, avl, TOT, bou, mum, WHM, wba, NEW, eve), Advocaat’s backline certainly look worthy of our investment in the opening few months as the Dutchman looks to build momentum and avoid another relegation scrap.

Further Reference

Sebastian Coates Wikipedia Page

Sebastian Coates Transfer Markt Page

1,899 Comments Post a Comment
  1. thegreathoudini
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    Just managed to re-register on the FPL site. It's close, oh so close.

    1. andy85wsm
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      In fact it's never been closer.

    2. Az
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      How? 🙁

      Mine still shows my team?

      1. thegreathoudini
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        Well my page monitor pinged. I managed to sign in and choose my favourite team etc again.

        1. Konig Luther
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          monitor page only showed that now? probably isn't working properly. they allowed re-registration yesterday

        2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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          You could do that yesterday

    3. Konig Luther
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      Daniel will have a huge disappointment today

      1. Black Knights
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        Ha, he already know about the re-register. he's more optimistic than ever!

  2. Amusing Fantasy Team Names
    J0E
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    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    Amusing team names.

    What amusing team names are you looking to use for the forthcoming season's Fantasy games?

    1. Mikeharbrw
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      For Fuchs sake!

      1. J0E
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        not funny.

        1. Jax
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          lol

      2. bennyp
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        no Fuchs Given

    2. Konig Luther
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      Fer Fuchs Ake

      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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        I will also be claiming this

      2. J0E
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        that's better.

        1. d1sable
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          has Buffrey sent u his sky article for submission yet Jonty?

          1. J0E
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            Yes, I've asked him to submit as a community article to publish. Looks good.

            1. buffrey
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              Yep. All sent through.

              Just a matter of time before sky opens.

              Noticed a few typos after I sent, but I guess those degrees in English you all have can be out to good use 🙂

        2. Konig Luther
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          😀

      3. Doolittle
        • 11 Years
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        Half the game is going to have this name.

        1. J0E
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          Trouble is most are pretty lame. To make his name a success you need to be really creative as Konig Luther did.

          Be good to see some other footballers get a shot at everyone's creative comedy efforts.

          1. Doolittle
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            8 years, 10 months ago

            The problem with puns is that they're never original; any good name will have been thought of by hundreds of others (I've seen Konig Luther's about 50 times on this site).

            That's why I just stick to my no nonsense Alan Partridge "Liquid Football" every year.

            1. Doolittle
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              And yes, I'm aware that this is why I'm never invited to parties.

      4. Az
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        Damn this is better than mine :p

    3. DelboyFPL
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      who ate all Depays

      1. J0E
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        Like it

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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          stolen from me 😉

    4. Kompany Man
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      What Does the Fuchs Say?

      1. J0E
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        back to the drawing board. See Konig Luther above for inspiration.

    5. J0E
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      One of my all time favourites from yesteryear was The Dirk Kuyt Rises

      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
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        Couple of good ones from last year-
        - AC a little silhouetto of Milan
        - Exeter Gently
        - Fritzl Palace

        1. J0E
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          That Bohemian Rhapsody one is superb.

          1. Joggers Nipple
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            It truly is!

          2. Bojan Horsemack
            • 10 Years
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            Doesn't fit though. Sadly 😀

            Thought of Persie Riot the other day but about three years late

      2. Jax
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        that's awful.

    6. thegreathoudini
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      DeGea Cech the Gape

    7. Russell
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      Arise Sir! So Danny Rose

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
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        😆

    8. Puyol Pants Up
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      BayerNevaLusen

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 10 Years
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        Brilliant! 😆

      2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 12 Years
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        Borussia Teeth

        1. Jax
          • 14 Years
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          stolen from my team name last year.

    9. Az
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      • 14 Years
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      "Schlupp the Fuchs up"

      Heheheh

      1. thegreathoudini
        • 12 Years
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        This, I like this. Another!

    10. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 12 Years
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      Fer Fuchs Ake
      Rooney Fuchs Nani
      Blatter Fuchs Fifa
      Lallanas in pyjamas
      Slumdog Mignolet
      Bacuna Matata
      Who ate all Depays
      Ninja Skrtels
      Baines on toast
      Monk King Baird Song
      DeJong the Walkerfront
      Moves like Agger
      Dirk Kuyt Rises
      Le Saux solid crew
      Park Defoe King Carr
      Wash Ngog

      A small sample size of teams I've seen over the years and a few new ones thrown in for good measure.

      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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        The Kolorov money
        Tchoyi Shorey
        Cech Mayte
        Diaby does Gallas
        Albrighton Zat Knight

        Too many to mention.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
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          So good 😆

      2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        It's Jong De Walkerfront btw...

      3. Bobbydhino - ⚒ Saint Slav…
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        Pork & Baines
        SeeYouInTees
        Magic Milners XXL
        Cabaye Depay Please

    11. thegreathoudini
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      DeGea Fuchs the Gape! I have chosen!

    12. Christian Fox der zorn gott…
      • 9 Years
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      I got Bilic I got DePay I Goetze work work work every day

    13. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
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      Using *Sheffield Thursday* this year
      Last year i used *Son Of A Pitch*
      World Cup it was *Ivory Toast*
      and my five a side team name is *Teenage Mutant Ninja Skrtels*

    14. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
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      Gonna stick to my
      Romeu and J.Hoillett

      Shame neither play in the EPL anymore 🙂

    15. Baines on Toast...
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      I'm going for Dzeko & The Bonymen this year.

      I think the Bony part may be new 😮

      1. J0E
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        That's even better than previous early 80s alternative music winner Howson Is Now. 🙂

        1. Hasselbaink Forever - Defoe…
          • 10 Years
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          R.E.Mnes?

      2. A.T
        • 13 Years
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        Nope I made that up last year 🙂

        1. A.T
          • 13 Years
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          You can have it though obv 😉

      3. OShaughnessy
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        • 11 Years
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        I rode that name to a Top 10k finish so treat it well my friend. 😉

        And, I always regretted that I didn't go with Bonyman (Singular). 🙂

      4. RedLightning
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        Someone used that name last season. I think it was Shaughnessy.

    16. IfYouTinkerYou'llHaveA…
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      I am a sting believer that your team name pun should include a player in your team!

      1. IfYouTinkerYou'llHaveA…
        • 12 Years
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        Yes that's right.... A sting believer :-0

    17. Taffer
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Pjanic! At the Xisco
      Dudek, Weahs May Kjaer?

      1. J0E
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        That second one is truly insane. I love it. Even got ManU's David May in there.

    18. Big4FPL
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      How about "Walking in Memphis"? Not exactly funny, but fits the song easily aha

      1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        That was one of my team names for a while...a true classic 🙂

    19. IfYouTinkerYou'llHaveA…
      • 12 Years
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      depay and display

    20. Moss
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I know you Juanmi
      Obiang Kenobi

      1. Mikeharbrw
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Don't you Juanmi baby?

    21. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 12 Years
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      am going to throw

      Ayew Fuchs Ings Shaw

      into the mix

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
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        This is very good

    22. Dormer
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      You Petr Cech Yourself!

    23. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Mings di Nasty

    24. Mr. O'Connell
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Enter Shaqiri

      1. Long Juan Silva
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Great name, shite band

    25. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Chamakh the Bony

    26. Bibelnissen
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      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Wow, there's so many impressive puns mentioned here, but I've already decided on my team name for the upcoming season:

      Queens Park Raisins

      1. Jax
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        that's bad.

    27. Dušan Citizen
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      My was Sex Fabregas last year. Have no idea about new one.

    28. Hasselbaink Forever - Defoe…
      • 10 Years
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      I like Garbutts and I cannot lie

    29. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 12 Years
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      YourMumsAthletic 😉 giggity

    30. Fulgencio Obelmejias
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Kuns 'n' Moses

    31. Quinny___
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I had "Game of Throw Ins" last year

    32. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No Fuchs given
      Mane on my mind
      Firminio nan
      Challenge de-clyned
      Cry me a Riviere
      That's just Krul

    33. CoolBeans
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      Murder on Zidanes floor

    34. thes7s
      • 10 Years
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      Better have my Mane

    35. aussie-trav
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      robin peter depay paul

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        If you can think of a better "paul" then you could have

        robin pieters depay ....

    36. theBoose
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The one that i've been using for a while is, Tortoise and De Gea 🙂

    37. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Fuchs in the box

    38. Dino
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Classiefuchsmartina

      1. Dino
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        • 14 Years
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        Classiebonyfuchsmartina

    39. dush64
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      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Vydra gives me a Bony!

    40. AK ⭐
      • 11 Years
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      Hart Touching Song

    41. applebonkers
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      oooh tettey

    42. Qubit
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Mane Riviere Shawcross.

    43. Black Panther
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Michu @ De Gea Ba

    44. The Cunning Punts
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Cesc, Drogs and Cattermole

    45. Overlordleo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Probably going with "Holebas in one" this year.

    46. bennyp
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      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      De Jong mustard

    47. Jairzinho
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      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Best one I've come up with was when I signed up for Fantasy Europa League in 2010/11:

      Rolando, L'Pool & Diop

      (We Speak No Americano had just come out, by Yolanda Be Cool & Dcup... Liverpool were in the Europa League from the start which was kind of amusing, and the other two were random players in the tournament).

    48. Isco Inferno
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      I've gone for 'Don't Juanmi Baby?'

  3. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 10 Years
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    Gianluca Di Marzio ‏@DiMarzio 9h9 hours ago
    #Darmian is getting close to @ManUtd: talks betweeen clubs (@TorinoFC_1906 and United) going forward.

    1. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Interesting!

    2. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
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      Is he any good?

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 10 Years
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        Apparently so.

        I've only seen him the once, when he made Rooney wish he had chosen a different career path.

        1. andy85wsm
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          Fair enough, don't know anything about him myself.

          Anyone has to be better than Valencia though!

      2. Jax
        • 14 Years
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        he was good in the italian version of good will hunting

    3. internal error
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      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      this guy is sky sports italia.

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 10 Years
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        Yeh, but they must have higher standards in Italy. He's the Don. 😉

        1. internal error
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          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          i suspect so. hope he is wrong about this

        2. Somalion
          • 14 Years
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          This, one of the very few I listen to at all.

  4. J0E
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    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    New community articles posted

    Here's Bowstring the Trout with a look at where on the pitch each Premier League is most likely to score from.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/07/07/creative-focal-points/

    And here's The Shoemaker with some must read analysis on the FPL bonus point allocation last year.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/07/07/fpl-bonus-points-analysis/

  5. Jay_
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Anyone thinking of going with Stek (SOU) and Ruddy (NOR) if they come in at 4.5 each ?

      1. NIGHTHIKER - I Kane, I Shaw…
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Think Stek will be 5.0, but this is the keeper combo I'm planning on going with, yes.

        1. Lucy.
          • 10 Years
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          Also think he'll be 5.0, just because of the length of Forster's injury.

      2. Jay_
          8 years, 10 months ago

          4.5 would be a real bargain then 🙂

        • pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I'd like to have Stek in my team, he's great at saving penalties.

      3. andy85wsm
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        8 years, 10 months ago

        Anyone done zero research into fixtures, rotations etc?

        Just me then....

        1. Lucy.
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          Get fiddling on that ticker! 😀

          1. andy85wsm
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            • 13 Years
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            I like to wait until prices are out before I start looking properly into who is playing who and when.

            A certain price you weren't expecting can easily change plans.

            1. Lucy.
              • 10 Years
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              That's why I have a few different combinations listed 😉

        2. A.T
          • 13 Years
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          It's all a bit pointless until the prices come out. I don't bother with rotation anyway (apart from keepers).

          1. andy85wsm
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            8 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah I mainly just go for GK rotations although sometimes if there's a good cheap def rotation I'll do that too. All depends.

        3. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Moi! But my team is almost done 😀

        4. Black Knights
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I printed them off. And then have ignored them since.

      4. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
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        I hope next new post to be FPL is open !!!

        1. Konig Luther
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          pretty sure they will another new post between today and friday

          1. Konig Luther
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            will have*

        2. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          That'll take another 7 days

          1. FPL Daniel
            • 14 Years
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            7 days and we'll drop death

        3. Jafalad
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Keep going Dan - it is coming 😉

      5. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Lucy,

        with reference to Toby situation. Surely the player has a say in the matter... If he doesn't want to go to the Saints then no one can force him. If AM have blundered by missing the deadline date then they pay compensation which Spurs will no doubt stump up for...

        Why would you want a player that if if true doesn't want to play for you?

        1. Lucy.
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          He is quite willing to play for us apparently 🙂 He hasn't rejected us at all.

          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Lucy, it appears to be the case that he doesn't want to play for Saints and would prefer the move to Spurs... obviously this is just based on what is being said but if he wanted to play for the saints then spurs would have dropped out by now I reckon,...

            1. internal error
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Then surely if Toby told Southampton that he wasn't interested, then they would have dropped out by now

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                the last thing I read, was that he was happy to join either club

              2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Southampton are holding on as they know they will get compensation IMO....

                Simple as that..

                They are going to earn out of this for doing nothing and AM making a mistake...

            2. ronty
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              classic case of geography 😀

            3. Lucy.
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              We don't really know either way. I get the sense that he'll play for either - staying in the PL and not returning to Atletico seems to be his priority. He may prefer to play for Spurs, that looks possible (we don't really know, do we, but seems to add up), but that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be contented to play at Saints if the Spurs move wasn't possible/legal (as is looking increasingly the case). I think he's just keen to move, one way or another.

              1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Legally Toby has the right to choose whoever he wants to play for...

                As I said before legally the mistake was by AM not him and if his preference is Spurs that's where he will go...

                Saints will then get compensation

                1. Lucy.
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Well in which case, if he's so intent on not playing for us, he'll reject us. But I think you'll find you're being way too black and white on this one. You can have preferences but that doesn't mean you hate the other options.

                  1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    never said he hated the other option, just that Saints cannot force him to sign for them..

                    If he wants to go to Spurs he will...

                    Don't think there is any grey area on this...

                    1. Lucy.
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 10 months ago

                      I think he just wants to finish at Atletico.

                      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        True but if I recall correctly you said legally he cannot sign for Spurs, no?

                        that is not correct IMO..

                        1. Lucy.
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 10 months ago

                          Well Southampton's legal team seem to think otherwise, judging by the way things have progressed. They must think they can put a stop to things or it wouldn't have escalated.

                          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            Any legal team will put up a fight to get a couple of million.... why wouldn't they..

                            If and I emphasis the word if Toby decides to go to Spurs then it will be a simple case of compensation paid to Saint by AM which Spurs will ultimately pay

                          2. Lucy.
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            Plus presumably the original 1.5m which Atletico had to pay to take Toby onto the open market at the end of the loan agreement?

                          3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            most probably...

                            it really is up to how much Spurs want to spend and if Toby's preference is with them...

                            If it's not then that of course is a different matter

                          4. Lucy.
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            I think it is with them. The Vertonghen role seems to be important. Presumably part of the Spurs fee will just be redirected to Saints.

                          5. pompeyfan
                            • 14 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            and Eriksen, the 3 of them played together for a fair bit

                2. pompeyfan
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  AM will be extremely keen to sell him to Tottenham for more money, as Ajax will be due something around 25% of the fee (I think), so if Tottenham pay more as well as the penalty clause to Southampton it is win-win for AM

                  1. internal error
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    its around 6mil for Southampton and around 10-11 mil for spurs isnt it? so about 2.5 mil goes to ajax and i'd guess maybe a couple mil to southampton.

                  2. Lucy.
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    Compensation would be due, that seems to be the general consensus. AM would likely end up with less than if we'd just bought him at a lower price.

            4. Eze Really?
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Its clear anyway he does not want to play for Atletico.

              1. Lucy.
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                On that we can agree. 😀

        2. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Madness to pick Spurs over Saints -_-

          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            🙄

          2. Tomeister
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Why?

        3. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I can't see how a clause like that can be legally enforced. I can understand the inclusion of a fee which Soton can pay and Atletico have to sell, but I don't see how you can physically prevent someone from agreeing separate terms with Atletico. Certainly doesn't seem ethical either.

          But ultimately the power is in Toby's hands as he's the one that has to sign the contract.

          1. Lucy.
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            I assume Saints are fairly convinced they can enforce it or Koeman wouldn't have sounded quite so buoyant in the interview yesterday.

            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Taking that with a pinch of salt...

              No way they can force a player to play for them if he hasn't signed a contract...

              1. Lucy.
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                But you're assuming he wouldn't want to based on media hype 😛

                1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  no offense but Spurs are a much bigger club than Southampton..

                  i really like your team but that is the reality...

                  He will want to go to a club with more chance of playing in CL (albeit that chance isn't that great) and also think the fact Vertonghen is there is proving to be a factor

                  1. Lucy.
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    You're again conflating a preference with one team with not wanting to sign with another! I've admitted repeatedly that he probably prefers Spurs but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be happy to play for Saints if things went awry.

                    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 10 months ago

                      I have never said he wouldn't be happy to play for Saints if there is no choice but there is one so can't see it happening....

                      1. Lucy.
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        And then we get money for Atletico's incompetence 😀

                        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 10 months ago

                          yep...

                          1. Lucy.
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            I agree. If there's a choice, he'll go to Spurs. I never doubted that. I just questioned the whole idea of him not wanting to come to Saints. 🙂 I believe he'd go to either if it meant leaving Atletico.

                          2. internal error
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            if that's what you think, then you must agree with Old School, that Southampton are now just after the compensation fee

                          3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            I agree wholeheartedly...

                          4. Lucy.
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            I disagreed about him not wanting to come to Saints. I think it's an epic that will probably end up with Spurs winning, Saints getting a chunk of money, and someone at Atletico being fired.

                          5. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            I could have worded it a little better in fairness.... I meant preference on that part....

                            My main point was on the legalities and it being up to the player

                          6. Lucy.
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 10 months ago

                            At the end of the day, it's football. If you throw enough money at a problem, it will go away.

          2. Billy Gilmore
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Also don't think Spurs have done anything wrong. If anything illegal has happened, surely it's at Atletico's end?

            1. Lucy.
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Siren's angle on the previous post seemed to be that once Spurs were made aware of this breach of contract, they'd be implicated if they continued with the deal. But I'm no lawyer, I don't know if that's true.

              1. Billy Gilmore
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Maybe, I just think if there is any compensation then surely it has to be paid by Atletico as they're the ones that blatantly went against their legal obligation.

                1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  correct Billy and spurs will pay it to them to persuade them to sell to them instead...

                2. Lucy.
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Oh yeah, I assume it would come out of Atletico's purse. I presume part of the fee Spurs pay will be redirected to Saints.

                  1. internal error
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    for £10-14mil. that's a very good deal for Spurs

      6. Punty
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I can see Arsenal conceding in all of those first 6 games.. maybe wait a bit with bringing in Arsenal-defender?

        1. Jebiga
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          cech

        2. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          You think WHM, Palace, Newcastle and Stoke can score against them?

          1. Punty
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Maybe not west ham but I think the others can, specially Palace and Stoke

      7. Im Not Marshal Foch
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I had a dream, which was not all a dream.
        The bright sun was extinguish'd, and the stars
        Did wander darkling in the eternal space,
        Rayless, and pathless, and the icy earth
        Swung blind and blackening in the moonless air;
        Morn came and went--and came, and brought no day,
        And men forgot their passions in the dread
        Of this their desolation; and all hearts
        Were chill'd into a selfish prayer for prices:
        And they did live by watchfires--and the thrones,
        The waiting of price lists--the cost,
        The habitations of all things which dwell,
        Oh patient they waited for the reopening of FPL

        1. Pasqualinho
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Ghost of seasons past. Welcome back.

          1. Im Not Marshal Foch
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Hey Hey I only post about one day a year... you can see my FPL history and how its dwindled since i stopped living on the site..

            1. Pasqualinho
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Those dizzy heights can be reached again. It's a bit harder now with over a million players and 3.5 million teams.

              1. Im Not Marshal Foch
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                I'm taking it super serious this year so I might be on these boards a lot more than i've been over the last couple of years. Want to get back into the top 5k at least.

                Even more important now there are going to be Friday deadlines

      8. Im Not Marshal Foch
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        #clickingrefreshwaitingfortomhuddlestonetonotbeonthefplhomepageanymore

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Hello, INMF! Nice to see you, mate! 🙂

          1. Im Not Marshal Foch
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Hey buddy.. you too!

      9. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        FPL Wizard app update

        Linus Hakansson (creator of FPL Wizard app) has replied to my email to tell me that a new version will indeed be released and will include certain new features too.

        Just FYI because I know a fair few people have asked about this.

        1. Nickofoz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          What's FPL Wizard?

          1. Beavis
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Apologies, for those who don't know:

            Fantasy Premier League Wizard is an application that gives you a huge advantage when playing Fantasy Premier League in terms of Clean-Sheet and goalscoring probability. The application features several functions for finding good rotation options using different rotation strategies. Depending on your settings and strategy, the app automatically creates a sorted list of teams that rotates well with the specific team(s) you selected. For every combination in the list, the application creates a suggested rotation schedule for you based on the fixture difficulties for every team in the search. The application calculates the difficulty for every single of the 760 fixtures of the 2013/2014 season by using individual prediction along with the current form of each team.

            Features:
            - The most popular rotation strategies: 2-Way Rotation, 3-Way Rotation (Play 1), 3-Way Rotation (Play 2).
            - A powerful custom strategy tool which let's you find rotation schedules for up to five different teams to be used simultaneously
            - Select factors like teams, gameweeks, maximum player price and difficulty for the different strategies' settings
            - Favourite your mouth-watering generated rotation schedules for easy access whenever you want
            - Fixtures for every team in the Premier League season 2013/2014
            - Eventual double-gameweeks and blank gameweeks are included in the calculation progress
            - Excellent How-To and Help instructions for every rotation strategy
            - Automatic, individual rating for every generated rotation schedule

            https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.linus.fplw&hl=en_GB

            1. President John F. Keninnsie
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              I'm sure it's a great app, but personally I think the 2013/2014 fixtures won't be much use to me 😉

            2. Beavis
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              TLDR: It's an app that gives you all the different defensive rotation combos (3-way play 1, 3-way play 2, 2-way, etc.)

            3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              But ... it's a Google app ... 🙁

        2. FAITHNOMORENO
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I was about to ask about fpl wizard.
          Thanks for the info.
          It was very helpful last year,helped a lot.

        3. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          is this better for a phone rather than a PC?

      10. The Nuttman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Best place to get computer from for I, an englishman. On my PS3 and need new one, old one died paying for membership 😯

        1. The Nuttman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Didn't even succeed at that.

      11. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Morning everyone! Giggity

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Mornin', YMA! 🙂

          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            doff my hat to you

        2. Lucy.
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Hello YMA! I'm just off out actually but glad to catch you 🙂

          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            and a bow to you. giggity

        3. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Hey YMA!

          What's going on?

          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Not alot mate, quiet day work-wise so preparing quiz for thursday and finally getting a first look at some rotation options 🙂 you?

            1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Oooh a quiz!! I'll be sure to look out for it 😀

      12. LiDaoMing
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        What have we learnt so far from this transfer window? There has been a great deal of hype and speculation about this or that player joining an EPL club, but it has not amounted to much so far. As in previous transfer windows, many of the top players in Europe are not actually moving, or if they do move, it is from one European club to another, rather than to the EPL.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          That ain't necessarily so ... 😉

        2. Eze Really?
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Put yourself in the shoes of a good European footballer.

          Pros:
          Spain, Germany, Italy, OR England.
          They get a winter break.
          They get easy games at least 50% of the time.
          The injury/burnout rates are far lower.
          They get into sides with a level of certainty of playing in Europe.
          The above gives them an easier ride into national sides.
          They are less prone to burnout when playing Euro Champs, World Cups etc.
          England does not have such a good success rate in Euro comps anymore.
          Cons:
          THE MONEY but not always.
          Playing in stadiums with great enthusiastic crowds every week.

          I f I were one I would learn another language and play on the continent.

      13. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I grow weary of empty words

        Goodnight

        empty words - loud and confused and empty talk; "mere rhetoric" empty talk, hot air, palaver, rhetoric hokum, meaninglessness, nonsense,...

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          BS? 😉

        2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          that made me laugh...

      14. Detweiler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        After a successful season last season and superb help and support from the community, I have joined up as a Member for this season.

        Any advice on using the members tools - which are the best, what to avoid?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          My tables! 😉

          Go here, and click on the "Votes" button, top rightish ... :

          http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/

          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            I have to admit, a good percentage for becoming a member was so i could see your tables, especially when you reply to someone's comments with just a table link 🙂

          2. Detweiler
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Thanks Doosra - I will have a good look! Can't be too bad with 200+ upvotes!

        2. Eze Really?
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I personally wish I could do the same.

        3. andy85wsm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Not sure anything needs to be avoided but as always use the tools as a guide or something to help make decisions if needed - probably wouldn't base all decisions on all tools though! 🙂

          1. Detweiler
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Thanks Andy, hoping it will be the difference between a 10k finish and at least a top 5k finish this season!

        4. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Yep...Plenty of tables to look...but have a go at making your own.
          Also.
          Look at matches on the members home page (goes right back to gw1) and look at those midfield players who take an avg position ahead of the fwds (Gold)
          Also
          Don't be afraid to muck about with the season ticker by using your own numbers...Make it as simple or as complicated as you like.

          1. Detweiler
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Thanks Doc. Is doing something like finding midfield players who take avg position ahead of fwds easily done?

      15. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

        Come on lads let's make some pressure on the site. They are testing it obviously. Sooner they see increased traffic sooner they will be sure everything is ok and they will open

        F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

        1. The_Colonel
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          No logic, but doing it anyway!

          1. FPL Daniel
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            And it's fun too 😉

        2. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I've got Distill Web Monitor reloading the pages every five seconds automatically for me 😎

          1. Parm
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Same 😛

          2. ihateramsey2
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            is this reliable?

      16. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Everyone ready for big launch tonight at 4am ?

      17. Lucy.
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Some much needed defensive cover established!

        Alex Goring Crook ‏@alex_crook 6m6 minutes ago
        Cuco Martina's move to #saintsfc on a two-year deal has now been confirmed by his management company. Fee is 1.5m euros #transfers

        Alex Goring Crook ‏@alex_crook 2m2 minutes ago
        Quotes from Martina on his management company's website 'For me it was a surprise this transfer has been completed so quickly.' #saintsfc

        Alex Goring Crook ‏@alex_crook 57s58 seconds ago
        Martina 'For me it is a very good step and I hope I can make a lot of playing time at #saintsfc and get the chance to show what I can do.'

        1. Lanley Staurel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Excellent. Still a risk though building another new defence for the second year running. At least Koeman has some pedigree in the defensive field 😉

      18. CostaCoffee
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Play haxball go to room entitled Room in Ireland

      19. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        @Doos

        excellent topic on rotation, definitely a couple on there that interest me 😀

        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I have to say top stuff from Doos there

          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            I like the SWA, NOR, WHM one

            will probably chuck Bournemouth in with them and 1 big defender

            Those home games for West Ham look too tasty to ignore

            I did come up with one myself

            http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/07/06/scout-report-tyrone-mings/?hc_page=7#hc_comment_10456191

            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              will take a gander... cheers

      20. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Sky sources understand Toby Alderweireld has undergone a medical at Tottenham with the view to completing a permanent move from Atletico Madrid.

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Lucy will be pleased......

          1. Lucy.
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Was looking probable yesterday. I just thought it would stretch out longer.

          2. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            I reckon there could be more in this yet.

            Not sure why he's switching, really. Maybe likes some of their players or something.

        2. Lanley Staurel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Inevitable. Money (salary no doubt) talks. Saints should be able to leverage a few extra Euros out of Athletico through the threat of litigation.

          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            I hope they do. Well, I shall have to see how he gets on at Spurs now.

          2. Eze Really?
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Atletico needed to pay 1.5mil before a deadline to stop the permanent clause coming into effect. They did not. If Toby wants Spurs then Saints should get the difference. Simple.

          3. Woy
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Good news is that Les is in madrid, not sat in Staplewood on the phone.

      21. The_Colonel
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Someone out there knows! Speak up!

        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          It was Macdonalds that spread the rumour about what you used as Chicken

          1. The_Colonel
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Hey! Our chicken is 100% edible!

      22. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Toby medical at Spurs according to SSN. Such a shame for Saints 🙁

        1. Lucy.
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          🙁

          1. Lucy.
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Expecting compensation though. At the end of the day, before this legal mess came out, a Spurs move was expected. The legal thing was the only thing providing hope. It clearly isn't much of a problem.

            1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Chasing money imo. He's going to be fighting for starts at Spurs no?

              1. Lucy.
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                I should imagine he'll start. But they have options if his form drops.

              2. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                they have DIer, Vertonghen and Wimmer as well. Can see some used for cups games and europa, much like Ben Davies was at Left back

              3. Hasselbaink Forever - Defoe…
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                The large Belgian contingent and playing at the back with Vertonghen again probably helped

        2. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I think he should have stayed but that's how it goes.

        3. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          That's the type of club they are....but they're good at reinventing themselves. For all we know Koeman may well reinvent them to be even better than last year, exciting times.

          1. Woy
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Hope so!

      23. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Southampton have confirmed the signing of defender Cuco Martina from FC Twente on a two-year deal.

        1. The Light Knight
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Highly meh, hopefully won't get PL minutes

          1. Lucy.
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            I think he's just there for depth.

            1. The Light Knight
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Yep, that's why I hope he only gets Europa and Cup games as he's otherwise just going to weaken Cedric as an FPL option

              1. Lucy.
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                We needed cover last season, particularly at RB. I think this is just a move to address it. He's only cost 1.5m euros.

                1. The Light Knight
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Being cheap and being there are his 2 main attributes, wouldn't want to be relying on him at all though

                  1. Lucy.
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    I think we'll bring through Mugabi when fit 😀

                2. pompeyfan
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Yeah Twente are in desperate trouble financially so there is a fire sale going on. Ziyech would be a good signing too

          2. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Toby on the way out so they better get somebody else!

            1. Lucy.
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Come on, it's Southampton 😉 Of course we will!

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Have a lovely little runner in the name of Phil Jones. Straight swap, him for Morgan, sounds fair to me 😉

                1. Lucy.
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  *pulls a Phil Jones expression*

            2. The Light Knight
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Caulker's available right? 😉

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Oh please don't do that to me. Then I have another preseason of arguing with people who think he's good.

            3. Eze Really?
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Was Toby that much better than Yoshida?

              1. Lucy.
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Significantly. Yoshida is poo.

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  RUBBISH!!! 😛 😉

              2. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Yoshida is technically very good, as are a lot of players coming from Japan and Asia. But his strength is just non existent, far too easy to push him around, which is arguably one of the worst things someone can say about a CB.

      24. Henrzd
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Predictions for when FPL will open again??

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          6th of Aug *fingerscrossed*

        2. Jax
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          not htis again. just feckin wait can you all.

        3. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          tomorrow afternoon

      25. Lucy.
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Southampton FC ‏@SouthamptonFC 4m4 minutes ago
        CONFIRMED: #SaintsFC have completed the signing of defender @CucoMartina on a two-year deal from @FCTwente.

        1. Woy
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          As expected.
          Now for Clasie and hopefully Toby or a similar player.

          1. Lucy.
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Toby due a medical at Spurs 🙁

        2. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Will he be first choice if Toby goes ?...It's gonna be a bit of a shot in the dark picking a Soton defender at this rate.

          1. Lucy.
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Nope. He's definitely defensive cover, see below 🙂 Don't worry.

            1. Jax
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Bertrand out for a few weeks too.

      26. Parm
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Seems like Darmian to United is a go....

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          hopefully

          don't know much about him but he's not Valencia, so that's a good start

          1. The Light Knight
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Nor is he Rafael - double bonus

        2. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Not a bad player but it must be quite disappointing considering the calibre of players linked!

          1. The Light Knight
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Italy's RB? Certainly sounds better than Ireland's RB or England's reserve RB 😉

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              A former Irish fullback by the name of Denis Irwin wants a word. 😉

              1. The Light Knight
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Denis was a Law unto himself 😉

                1. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Just suggesting that United could do with another Irish FB 😉

            2. Eze Really?
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              A relief for Evertonians!

        3. The_Colonel
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Good player, great buy

        4. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Very good player. Nice buy

        5. Jax
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          just like gundogan was...

      27. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        @SouthamptonFC 27s27 seconds ago

        Reed: "Injuries to @ryanbertrand3 and @B_M321 highlighted the need to bring in another defender. Cuco is the perfect solution." #saintsfc

        1. Lucy.
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Interesting that they were regarding Mugabi as cover before the move. 😀

          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            🙂