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Friday’s final fixture takes in the Group D clash between Spain and a Turkey side looking for their first points of Euro 2016.

This is the first time the two sides have met in a major finals, while in their previous 10 encounters Spain have won nine. Turkey’s only victory came in a World Cup qualifier in 1954.

Although Vicente del Bosque’s Spain won their first game 1-0 over the Czech Republic, the former World Cup winners were far from convincing with 13 of their 18 goal attempts failing to hit the target.

Turkey will be hoping Spain can continue their profligate goal threat after conceding a worrying 15 shots in the box in their 1-0 defeat to Croatia. Indeed, over their 13 European Championship games Turkey have kept just two clean sheets.

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  1. TJ_777
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    De Gea hasn't recorded a single save the entire game 🙁

    1. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      He's just that good 😉

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Does more in one game for United than he'll probably do for Spain all tournament.

  2. VS10_
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Alba cs locked 😎

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Nice

  3. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Is it worth doing either of these Subs for tomorrow?
    A GK with 2pts to Patricio
    B DEF with 2pts to Klein (Aus)

    1. Rowse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Yes and yes/maybe

    2. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      A definitely. B too, not much to lose, maybe 1 point unless he does a Dragovic.

    3. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Yes to both

    4. Root
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Really?

  4. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Turkey can score now! 😀

  5. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    How many points did Alba finish with? At work so not watching the game...

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      9

      1. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Thanks. Guess I should call Alba(c) a success and leave it there then.

  6. Weeb Kakashi
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    When are people Wildcarding?

    1. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      next gw. need to get rid of double swiss defence and likes of stanciu muller

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        If You had a nice team, team would you save it?

        What are the merits and demerits?

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Dunno.
      You?

  7. HVT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    If your team is 'decent' is there any point in wc?
    oo.com> wrote:
    Im finding it hard to decide, who to get and who gets rotated ? with so little time to put a team together, if I thought I could get 11 starters out I'd nearly hold off. The only players that's really on my radar right now is the Sick ham and the Italian def tho I believe ROI could unlock that def!
    Interested in others thoughts?

    1. Rowse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      I'm doing the same, I have a good team, hopefully not too many players getting rested, plus I have all the likely price risers as well so just going to keep it going for now

      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Yea-so difficult now with so many teams in a position to possibly rest/rotate.
        Bringing in fresh players looks a lottery, you looking at QF Rowse?

        1. Rowse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 2 days ago

          Yeah I'm on about 140 points with 2 to play, and I have Payet, Giaccherini, Morata, etc likely to rise in price. I just gotta hold tight/my nerve and then go quarters. I have a lead in all my ML so I should be able to get through GW3 still in front.

          Plus we get a few days thinking time between last group games and L16 games, which we dont get between GW2 and GW3.

          1. Camp No No
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 2 days ago

            Not afraid Giaccherini and Morata will get rested?

            1. Camp No No
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 2 days ago

              Forget that Morata resting. Spain hasn't won the group yet, and will definitely want to.

          2. HVT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 2 days ago

            Top score mate!
            119/3 tg here only really getting going now after picking a team 1hr before KO!

          3. tm245
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 2 days ago

            Great point about the timing as well.

            1. Rowse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 2 days ago

              Yeah afraid of rotation, but didnt make a transfer so I do have 2 to be used as well. Would probably take 30 points right now if offered it for GW3, just to get me through still being top of my leagues!

    2. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      No takers?
      I would have thought this was an important decision either way at this stage,no point in patting yourself on the back with today's points.

    3. tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      I posted this earlier today. Am absolutely baffled by the rush to wild card:

      "I have been asking the same questions as I think wild carding next matchday is the equivalent of wild carding in gw38 in FPL.

      I think the fact that so little is known about the pricing makes it an odd time to chase price rises, but the bigger issue for me is that the strategy involves stacking your squad with players from eliminated teams, which is the most baffling since the one mechanism we know (and I like) is that a squad of fifteen active players can be used in each round and is a very helpful strategy.

      Wild card between R16 and QF makes the most sense to me since the pool of available players goes from 16 to 8, and there are only four FTs that round. If you have triple France and double England and they both get eliminated, you've lost five players and have only four FTs with which to replace them."

      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Thanks TM you talk a lot of sense, I think I can hold.
        even if you WC this round there are still so many uncertainties-I'm not too interested either in packing my team with 4m.

      2. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        That's definitely one reasonable look at it.

        I think the big problem in planning is that we don't know anything about how those price changes will hit us. That can be a total game changer and we have little cue how to prepare for it.

        Personally, I think my team is pretty fine, so I'm probably saving the wildcard. Most of my guys have not yet won the group either, so should play the GW3.

        1. tm245
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          I am in a similar position, and am hopeful that my squad depth can carry me through the last group matches. Triple France attack would have been a concern if they had already clinched, but I hope I will be okay.

          1. HVT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            'le donc' needs games 😉

  8. Slam
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Scorecheck? 104 in total

    1. Liastro ⭐️
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      127 with 3 to play.

    2. justmatt
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      112 here

    3. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Haven't a clue

    4. leo_messi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      139 but only Alaba left

    5. SilkySkills
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      121, 1 to play

    6. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      116 with guerreiro

    7. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      113 with De Bruyne to go.

      1. Slam
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Jesus, looks like my score is below average then.

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 days ago

          Nolito made my score look decent

        2. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 days ago

          You beat mine

    8. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      142

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        You aren't even playing 🙂

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 days ago

          Irrelevant

        2. Optimus.
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 2 days ago

          I'm playing darts with the brother..

          Sportist!

    9. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      119 with 3 to go

    10. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Do people take out points for subs when they say they are on 127 with three to play ?

      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        No-lets 'big' it up on here AW!
        😉

      2. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Well they should

      3. Root
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Obviously

    11. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      104 should get u in the top 50k I assume

    12. Root
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      116 with Almer, Sigurdsson and Hinteregger to play.

    13. Mo Mané Mo Problems
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      127 with Siggy to go. Or 124 with Siggy and Almer.

    14. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      134 😎 🙂

      Gonna sub Strinic and Sommer out for Dzsudszak and Patricio so 130 with 2 left 🙂

    15. Backup Dancer
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      126 after I sub in Alaba and Rui

      1. Yolo Toure
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        132 with 3 to play

    16. Knowledgeable meerkat
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      113, Alaba to play

  9. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    It seems Alba was the captaincy better choice.

    Was very nervous when Perisic scored early. Anyways happy to own both 🙂

    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Same here-Morata owners rewarded for patience too and Tirkey really should have scored their to reward Alba owners more!

  10. jaredmason
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Thanks McDonalds - way to undo my subs for the round... Now I've got Nolito on the bench and Kono still captain...

    1. Chenku╰☆╮
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      ?

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Did you press confirm?

      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        So much this.

    3. jaredmason
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      I did it in stages confirming after each. There's no way I didn't confirm any of it, which is what I've got

    4. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      wow thats unlucky mate

      id be absolutely bricking myself if i were in your position

    5. SilkySkills
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      I'm lovin it

    6. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      I thought McDonalds done burgers not subs

  11. TJ_777
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Wow 44 points in one day..

  12. Mayo for Sam
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Has Cesc not been awarded the assist for the 2nd?

    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Not sure but there was a turkey Def made a solid contact in between.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      correct

    3. justmatt
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      He was to start with, then taken off him.

  13. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Got a total of 29 points from three players today. Good day.

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Nice 19 from my 3 today here

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Solid

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      31 from 5 here 🙂

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Nice! Nolito came up big for us!

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 days ago

          Yep 😀

    3. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      yesterday 10 points from 5 players , today 24 from three...

  14. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Spanish cs are locked before they even start

  15. John t penguin
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Found this when trying to find more rules for sun dream team
    This Daniel sounds like he really knows his stuff

    DANIEL
    Neuer

    Hummels
    Hector
    koscielny
    Alba

    Perisic
    Calhanoglu
    Yarmolenko

    Griezmann
    Dzyuba
    Muller

    Value through the middle with a strong defence and no bloody djourou!

    The way forward is multiple clean sheets, finding the diamonds in the middle (James Rodriguez world cup as an example) a couple of proven goal scorers and a cheap striking risk!

    Why have a polish defender? They’ll leak and won’t go very far in the tournament

    You’ll only end up taking him out anyway, it happens every season/tournament – the top teams back line consist of defenders and keeper from one or two top teams, and it usually pays off.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Exactly this. Load up on CAMs and good defenders.

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        This. But.....doesn't every decent fantasy player follow this rule? Mayb with the exception of mids with PKs?

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 days ago

          Pertains more to this fantasy game because you don't need to invest on forwards that much

    2. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Well considering Poland have 2 CS from 2 and u get a free WC after the group stage I would argue that he doesn't know what he is talking about.

      1. John t penguin
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Just stand there the sarcasm bus will come round again

  16. Backup Dancer
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Bonucci Alba and Perisic saving the gameweek.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Juanfran, Nolito, and Perisic here

      1. Backup Dancer
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Got 2 transfers, wise to make Nolito one I reckon.

        Surely he will rise quite a bit in price.

        1. HVT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 2 days ago

          But will he play next time?

  17. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    according to my mcdonalds scorecard
    Nolito got an assist and goal and no minutes played

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Ya had that problem with perisic earlier don't worry they'll fix it. Useless site

  18. JJO
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    There will be someone with more than 56 points in fantasy 7,right?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Probably

  19. KING_ZLATAN
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    3 goals and no iniesta involvement in points

  20. BB-8
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    34 from 4 today. Any good? 😉

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Awful mate.

      😉

  21. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    150 with Patricio and Joao Mario if he starts to play.

    1. BB-8
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Wow. That is immense.

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Oh my haha

    3. Slam
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Pff

    4. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      And I thought my score was good 😆 Seriously though, that's top 5 material I reckon.

    5. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Chin up mate

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        😆

      2. Yolo Toure
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Quite happy with my 132 and Ronaldo Patricio Guerreiro to play

      3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Sorry I forgot you were playing Jafooli's fantasy game which is 100 % fantasy 😉

    6. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Very nice ,and played sir , top 10 ?

      116 with Patricio , alaba & Ronaldo

    7. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      It's an amazing score, but does it include the players you subbed out after yesterday's games and those who those two will replace?

  22. Slam
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Well, not the best WC.
    Got rid of double French defence, Hamsik and Nolito
    and instead brought in Giaccherini(Yay) Kroos and Yarmolenko 😕

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Yikes. Yarmolenko was unnecessary. Others were decent moves.

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      🙁 Unlucky 🙁

    3. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      I have a cack team too. 101 with KDB , Alaba , Janko , Guerrero to come. Hopefully wildcard will make things less dismal.

  23. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Is Giroud at risk now of being dropped for Griezman

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      More likely for Gignac...but only for rotation

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Probably not but we get lineups before deadline anyway.

    3. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Cheers forgot we'd get lineups. Contemplating WC... Gotze, Giroud, Stanciu, Muller..

  24. Jazz!
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Dzsudzsak you Hungarian beast and my very own little differential, I want returns tomorrow! 😀

  25. Yolo Toure
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    How long does the game take to update ranks?

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Hours and hours

    2. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      normally done by 11:00 gmt

      1. Yolo Toure
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        That's not too long, thanks!

  26. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    That's was a bit weird listening to Pullis commentating on Spain , not sure the best fit 🙂

  27. Grand Thibauto
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Muller(2), Giroud(2), Dier(2) and Sommer(3) out for Ronaldo, Hinteregger, Guerreiro and Patricio? Or keep Hinteregger on Bench.

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Definitely

      1. Grand Thibauto
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Cheers. Not benching Hinteregger either.

  28. George James
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    If I have manually brought on all my subs and one of my players didn't play will the first on my bench automatically come on?

    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      No, as soon as you make manual subs there are no auto subs.

    2. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      No.

  29. Alan The Llama
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    I'm playing the Lothar Mattheus drinking game. I have to have a shot every time he ends a sentence with "yes?".

    I'm hammered.

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      you're warming up for the Thierry Henry "but of course" drinking game

  30. Holy See
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 days ago

    Drriinnkkk!! A sweet Friday, you are indeed most welcome!

    1. 32chickens
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Friday ,friday,a day of expectation

    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 days ago

      Drinking ftw 😎

      http://www.gifbin.com/bin/2sw5sw995sw8yu.gif

      1. 32chickens
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 days ago

        Optimus
        what's this about danny ings going north to rangers?Anything in it?