After recording 11 clean sheets across the first 22 Gameweeks, including three shut-outs in their last four fixtures, the Manchester City defence is once again drawing the attention of Fantasy managers.
Five Things we've learnt from the Premier League This Alternate Universe
Monkey blog... has crash landed - please share the love. Or just read it and laugh/cry
http://hindumonkey.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/five-things-weve-learnt-from-premier.html
Don't I know you from somewhere?
Eton.
🙁
Didn't go to Eton. Parents weren't rich enough sadly 🙁
Passed my 11+.
Like the alternate universe piece 🙂
Could you do one to include Chelsea and Spurs, with a few others like WHU,STK,WBA?
Is there a scoutcast tonight?
Next week me thinks.
- Otamendi v Stones
Nice piece, and it’s worth considering that whilst Stones is yet to score in the league this season, he has 3 goals in the Champions League. Otamendi has scored 5 goals in 26 games in all competitions this season, or 0.19 goals per game. In the 16 matches where Stones has started and played 60+ minutes this season, his 3 goals almost exactly match Otamendi's rate at 0.19 per game.
It's also worth noting that in pre-season, where Stones and Otamendi started three games together, playing 60+ minutes in each, Stones grabbed two goals to Otamendi's one, which was itself assisted by Stones.
Another advantage to owning Stones is his excellent discipline. He hasn't picked up a single booking this season, whereas Otamendi served a one-game suspension after reaching five yellows by GW11. In total, Otamendi has 33 yellow cards in 118 appearances for City, roughly one every 3.6 games, whereas Stones has only been shown a single yellow card in 60 matches at the club, which came on his third appearance for the club, back in August 2016.
Yep, great additional points Ludo.
You had to have known this article was coming out.
Great points, as always.Has anyone ever seen Prokoptas and Ludo in the same room? I certainly haven't. I'm convinced they're the same person.
I thought that was obvious.
Someone is not in a good mood today.
That was actually a joke. Whoops.
Lol no problem Rupert! Always easy to be misinterpreted. Especially when you punctuate properly.
you also have a nice piece
Ladies.
If Stones is anywhere near nailed, Stones +1.0 is clearly better - I don't think it's really up for debate tbh
I wonder how their bonus potential compares? I thought Stones has always been a little averse when it comes to picking up the baps. I’m probably wrong, it’s just something ve got in my head about him.
There's a useful comparison in the article, and I don't think there's much in it. Stones gets 6 BPS for 90% pass completion (he's rarely below 95%) and 30 passes by half-time every game, whereas I think Otamendi has missed out on it a few times, so that's one thing in Stones' favour, though Otamendi's definitely improved his distribution under Pep this season.
Stones also doesn't lose nearly as many BPS for fouls and yellow cards as Otamendi, as above, though Otamendi has also improved in that respect lately - just one booking in 10 since he returned from suspension.
I think Otamendi probably has the slight edge with his CBI, though, which isn't too surprising, given that he's more of a proper old-school centre back than Stones, in terms of doing the less elegant types of defensive work.Ok nice one. It does look a lot closer than I thought then. I definitely prefer Otamendi myself but the extra 1.0 can go an awful long way. It all depends on each individuals team I suppose.
The final advantage is that Otamendi has a lot of football in his legs from this season, whereas Stones is fresher, and younger. If either of them are rotated with Kompany it will be Otamendi I feel.
Best nailed on budget defender other than Kenny? AND, would anybody consider swapping Ota for Alonso? Not sure whether it’s bias making me want to make the change, or the fact I think come the end of the season Alonso will finish on more points.
This wasn’t supposed to be a reply. D’oh! *facepalm*
The important thing here is to look at data which best mimics what we want to project into, and that's not pre-season and it's not the champions league. It's also not the most recent data as Otamendi had a different partner. The data from the first 12 games in which they both features alongside each other in central defence is more useful imo. It tells us this:
Otamendi destroys Stones in almost all respects
Goal attempts: double
On target: double
Touches in opponents half: double
In final third: triple
BPS: thrashes
If we work on the assumption that Stones and Otamendi were pick up where they left off then these stats suggests if you unlock the free cash by trading down you're likely just trading up to about...
Points per game:
Stones: 5.2
Ota: 5.8
Ota's discipline has improved in the last 10 games and had he been as disciplined in the first half of the season we'd be looking at about one point per game difference.
So my best guess is you're trading about .75 points per game for your cash
loves those numbers, ya good
Who needs membership when you get such top quality input from the community
I owned Stones last season, and again earlier in this season due to his goals in pre season and CL. It was frustrating when Otamendi was scoring in the league and Stones wasn't, but more frustrating and not linked to stats, is when he gets injured. For that reason Otamendi is worth the extra money.
So Ludo, what you're saying is we should buy Otamendi?
Ota has the potential of providing assists...he loves to send long through ball to Kun, is only a matter of time the two connects
not sure scott dann is gonna be threatening any goals any time soon
Nice piece, but surprised there was no mention of Kompany. Have to think he'll get some matches if and when he's fit. Who's he more likely to come in for? Or will it be a switch to 352?
I'm not sure how much of a factor Kompany will be until the end season. If City keep progressing to the CL end stages and they have the title won, then yes, it will be a concern.
In the short-term, there's no doubt that Otamendi is due a rest. Not sure how soon that will come though.
Do you have Coutinho Mark?
If so who will you be getting if he leaves?
Team ID is 370.
Yeh I genuinely think Kompany has gone from no.1 to no.3 in Pep's mind throughout the season. However, like you said, in the latter stages with City still in all the cups, Kompany could get matches into the less-important prem matches.
City could have it wrapped up with over 5 matches left
Which one does Billy prefer?
Anyone think Cenk Tosun will be a hit for Everton?
Yes hopefully, nice diff if it pulls off.
Don´t know much about him, but his scoring record is impressive.
He did it in the CL so shouldn't be a complete pushover when he comes to the prem.
Yep. He has the physique to do well in Premier but also a very mobile and worker player in pitch and he has good technique. He scored 55 goals in the last year and a half.
who does he replace? Rooney or Sig? Or fit all three in?
DCL
DCL/Niasse
Rotation likely. DCL has done well in the build up and his aerial strenght is important.
People thought Sandro would be a hit in August...
Not if you’d seen the vids you wouldn’t. I said at the time he looked poor and had been a tad flukey.
How much do we think he will be priced on FPL?
More than 7m
6.5 would be my guess
No chance. That’d be a bargain. He’ll be 7.5 I suspect,
7.0
He will get goals for sure and so makes Siggy are better option from an assist point of view too.
Stones is a decent shout
Question could be: Jones Stones or Christiansen?question could be Jones Stones AND Christiansen?
lots of Qs
Jones stones and alonso 😉
Alonso, Otamendi, Stones, Christy, Jones
Yes
@samuelluckhurst
Luke Shaw's form on and off the pitch has changed United's plans over a possible left-back signing
An option at 4.9?Young the first choice
Young will be moved to RB if Valencia is out for a while.
true, but isnt he expected to recover soon?
.. and agreed a 1 year contract extension today..
till he gets criticized in Stoke's post match interview..
I will stay away from him..
Aye. Only DDG Jones Pogba Valencia and Lukaku seem immune from the wrath of Jose Drawino.....all the rest may be out on their ear at a moments notice.
Would like one new hotshot defensive signing for Man U or Chelsea. Only asking for one 🙁
Jones uninspiring, and I can never make my team balance work with a 7.0 def so all that's left is Christensen who I currently own and am not happy with.
why?
Basically they're rank killers but none of the current options are my cup of tea
most of them are pretty nailed.. don't think any new signing would replace them immediately (except a Man Utd LB/LWB signing) and they won't be cheap on FPL too..
No, but for example a 6.0 LWB/LB would be great value regardless of other options (especially considered Joe's is 5.7 now and still as injury prone as ever).
*other options from those two teams
Any early team news tonight? asking for a friend.......
Team coach has left Upton Park............
Thoughts on an Otamendi/Stones double up? Sterling too ofc. Lots of value attacking options elsewhere and City will rack up cleanies with their possession game.
Attacking threat too from the two lads.I like it but until jesus is back i think youd rather have Aguero/Sterling/DEF
Kun isn't worth the price of not captaining
Please explain this logic
Simple value for money. If you have him in your team but don't captain him, he will not get the required PPG to justify his price.
How many players have you captained this season ?
Y on earth would u not cap himvs new and wba
May want Sané, but certainly an option. Instead of a double up I guess I would prefer to punt on maybe VVD or Mustafi as the situation stands.
Good plan for sure...
Jones Stones Alonso (plus a few quid)
Jones Otamendi Alonso
Stones Otamendi Alonso.
All three varieties look good.
You'll want Sanchez in a couple of weeks 😉
Why?
anyone know how to bet on starting players? Want to bet that Son doesn't start
never heard of that market. Probably too open to fixing.
I will give you odds that he does start ?? ..............
Don't think that is something you can do... If you know someone inside the club, you would make millions doing that...
Ota vs Stones...we’ve been there...only one winner.
John Stones absolutely the better pick now give the price.
Ota > Jones for me this week and then Cresswell > Stones next week as the swap over...
Nothing for either Ota or Stones this week in all probability.Went for Ota last week and regretting it a bit. Was regretting it a lot when Andre bloody Gray scored.
‘Twas you that jinxed him so!
Third jinx in a row when I've taken a hit for a premium defensive asset!
Jones - got injured v hud
DDG - conceded v wba
Ota = watford
BAH
This week I'm bringing in Lingard I think, so avoid like the plague.
Thanks for th heads up !! 😉
They’re missing a trick not putting him on pens Wakey.
https://youtu.be/nz3H72j8qyEWow.
Always a chance at set pieces for Ota, even at Anfield. If you saw Burnley's goal this week...
Stones is equally good.
Stones is taller than Otamendi isn't he?
Picking a CB based on goal scoring potential is always a red herring
Which double up do you prefer?
A) Otamendi + Stones
B) Alonso + Chrisensen
C) All 4 defendersOta + Alonso working well for a while
I have Ota and Christensen right now.
I will bring in Alonso but Christensen is good value if he plays.
spread if possible.
A
C. But swap stones for jones so you can take sterling and kun?
B
Looking at cheap defenders to fund Kun
A) Lowton (nailed?)
B) C. Martina (nailed?)
C) Ogbonnaoggie
Dunk? Fixtures are okay until GW29 bar the Chelsea game.
Nice suggestion
thanks
Think maybe Dunk, Duffy or Lascelles.
Burnley worth a look from mid Feb after they finish their trio of tough home games.This is why I wanted Lowton, but I'm not shure he's nailed
Please enlighten me if you know
Bardsley
Lolamendi
Play Masuaku or double Burnley Pope Mee?
Huds will probably score?
Stones maybe the Sanchez enabler I've been looking for
Why the newfound Sanchez Love?
I've exact money for these moves. Would you pull the trigger?
Ogbonna, Son and Morata to Alonso, Lingard and Aguero (-4)?No. Would only do Son > Lingard
100%
Yes I would.
Easy
Should I just WC to this now?
De Gea
Alonso Mustafi Ogbonna (Mee, Kenny)
Salah Sterling Lingard Arni Richo
Kane VArdy (Quazar)
ThanksWhat's your current team?
De Gea
Mustafi Mee Ogbonna (Kenny, Long)
Salah Arni Pogba Richo (King)
Morata Kane VardyNo, don't do it, defence basically stays the same.
No. Maybe just downgrade Morata to Firmino and upgrade King?
Gomez to mustafi
Lloris to mignolet
Views?
Pickford not mignolet ever
Everton defense has been on a decline.
Plus pool at home keep CsThen look at VVD. BFS will have Everton back on track soon enough.
Pickford far better option
Surely there is a better option than Mignolet. How about Pickford? Good fixtures after the Spurs game.
The headline makes it sound like a fight. My money is on Otamendi.
What do people think of hegazi these days? Fits nicely in my rotation
Unfortunately, West Brom are shite
A) Aguero Sane
B) Kane ArnieDepends. Do you have any other City players?
B
B
B
Is Eriksen + Vardy ➡ Lingard + Aguero worth a -4? Or nah?
I think most definitely yes
Lets see how Spurs perform today and in what lineup first. Back in the 3421 Eriksen could be a great shout, and Vardy seems to like scoring in tougher fixtures.
Thanks both
Really want Alonso but only way to get him would be to lose Hazard which I’m not keen on..
Messed about a bit came up with this for a -12
Christensen - Alonso
Otamendi - Stones
Janmaat - Masuaku
DCL - Quaner
Sounds silly but sets me up nice long term..
Any thoughts appreciatedOnly take a hit if you'll actually make points from each individual move. The last two are just admin, throwing away points for no reason. Not worth it.
Sort of need the last 2 to free up funds..
Could hold 1 more week & reasess
-12 is never a good move... İ want Alonso too, but in all fairness I dont think he is.essential.. Christensen will.cover the cs and the extra 1.6 could be spend as wisely on upgrading other options.. For now I will settle for for Christensen though
Thanks for the input, I will hold off at least another Gw probably
Why do 60% of People mispell Qiansar?
Ooft, bottom post twice today
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