Scout Notes

Scout Notes – International Round-Up

An injury scare for Hazard, a Depay double and another goal for Bolasie top Sunday’s international bill. Here’s the round-up of the action in Europe and Africa.

Belgium 8 Estonia 1

With apologies to any Estonians, but as they say in that great country: ‘Väravate vahe on üle hinnatud.’

At least that’s what Google translate came up with for ‘goal difference is over-rated’, although a scintillating Belgium were anything but as they finished their 2016 fixtures with a swagger.

Romelu Lukaku (9.8) hit a late double and provided an assist, Eden Hazard (10.1) scored for the sixth time in as many matches for club and country and Kevin De Bruyne (10.8) set up one goal and was influential throughout as Estonia were blown away.

The events were undoubtedly overshadowed by news of Eden Hazard’s withdrawal with a knock.

Signaling to the bench on 73 minutes, Hazard clearly had an issue and was subsequently removed by Roberto Martinez.

Early reports suggested a knee injury, only for Martinez to allay fears post-match by stating it was “just a knock on the calf”.

However, this morning we’re seeing conflicting quotes in sources stating it was in fact a kick to the ankle that prompted Hazard’s withdrawal.

“He received a blow to the ankle, but he is not hurt.”

Confusion reigns, with Chelsea undoubtedly keen to get the player back under the wing and assess him ahead of the Gameweek 12 meeting with Middlesbrough.

Hazard has been the top transfer target ahead of Saturday’s deadline, finding his way into 229,000 new FPL squads and climbing to 28.3% ownership. The transfer traffic will doubtless slow while we await his return and Antonio Conte’s news on both Hazard and Diego Costa but, given Martinez’ reaction, we can be hopeful that Hazard will remain in contention.

Elsewhere, Hazard’s team-mate Thibaut Courtois (5.5) returned in goal for Belgium following his own scare concerning an eye injury and Tottenham’s Jan Vertonghen (5.7) also started.

Everton midfielder Kevin Mirallas (6.2) replaced Hazard after 73 minutes and Simon Mignolet (4.8), Christian Benteke (7.6), Steven Defour (6.0), Divock Origi (6.5) and Michy Batshuayi (8.6) were unused substitutes.

Neither Marouane Fellaini (5.8), Vincent Kompany (5.9), who pulled out of last Wednesday’s friendly with Holland, nor his replacement, Christian Kabasele (4.8), made even the bench – something Ragnar Klavan (4.7) would have probably settled for after enduring a torrid time at the heart of the Estonian defence.

The Liverpool man capped an ugly evening by scoring an own goal.

Luxembourg 1 Holland 3

Holland threatened to plumb new depths when they went in at half-time 1-1 with lowly Luxembourg.

But a double from substitute Memphis Depay (7.2) saved the day, and possibly reminded Jose Mourinho – and perhaps Ronald Koeman – of his goal scoring prowess.

In a season of high-scoring midfielders, The Red Devils middlemen have managed just five league goals between them, so Depay’s strikes – his first in nine appearances for club and country this campaign – won’t have harmed his previously limited prospects. And they don’t come much more limited than a mere 24 minutes from 11 Gameweeks.

Team-mate Daley Blind (5.8) crossed for Depay’s first. His second came from a free kick. Georginio Wijnaldum (7.5) had earlier set up Holland’s opener.

Maarten Stekelenburg (5.1) and Virgil Van Dijk (5.4) both started, while Middlesbrough’s Marten de Roon (4.3) came on for the last two minutes.

Michel Vorm (4.9), Leroy Fer, (5.1) Jordy Clasie (4.7) and Bruno Martins Indi (4.9) were all unused subs. Vincent Janssen (7.7) was not even in the squad after suffering concussion in the draw with Belgium last week and remains a doubt for Tottenham’s home match with West Ham on Saturday.

Things were generally less fraught across Europe on Sunday, although Bosnia And Herzegovina keeper Asmir Begovic (4.8) was beaten by a late, late goal in Greece to conclude a second half in which eight yellow and two red cards were brandished.

That match ended 1-1, while Switzerland beat Faroe Islands 2-0. Granit Xhaka (5.2) earned his 50th Swiss cap and Valon Behrami (4.5) also played the full 90 minutes and provided the assist for the opener. Edimilson Fernandes (4.9) made his debut in a 21-minute run-out after the break.

Southampton defender Jose Fonte (5.4) started as Portugal beat Latvia 4-1.

In Africa, Everton’s Yannick Bolasie (6.1) continued his fine from with a goal in Congo DR’s 2-1 win in Guinea. He was subbed off after 78 minutes, while Hull’s Dieumerci Mbokani (5.5) played the full 90 minutes – something he’s managed just the once in the league this season.

Mohamed Elneny (4.6) started Egypt’s 2-0 win over Ghana, with Hull’s Ahmed Elmohamady (4.8) an unused substitute.

Leicester’s Daniel Amartey (4.5) and West Ham midfielder Andre Ayew (7.1) started for Ghana. The former’s team-mate, Jeffrey Schlupp (4.9), played the last 20 minutes.

1,145 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Irish Madridista ⭐
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    JAFFALISCIOUS WHERE ARE YOU?!

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      He's over there ↰ Shaggy

  2. The Fantastic Mr Fox
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Depay for inverted winger!

    MAKE IT HAPPEN, JOSE

    1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      What?

  3. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    So Hazard flag is similar to Alonso gate.

    Just bigger.

    1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      What happened with Alonso?

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Alonso14 I guess he means

      2. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        haha....everyone on edge now. Nothing.

        Alonso12 was a poster that on the morning of an early kickoff posted a fake Spurs team that led to people changing their teams.

        He was banned.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Is he Alonso14's younger brother? Bad bunch that family 😉

          1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Hearing all this history is putting me off Alonso. People with that name can't be trusted #stereotype

          2. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            😆

        2. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Best bit was that saying that was no VdV crashed the site and nobody had a chance to correct it 😀

          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            I actually felt pretty sorry for him

  4. Worzel Gummidge
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Injury scare? Either way we have quotes from manager saying he is not injured and the above quote saying he is fine. Maybe it is time for FPL to raise the white flag and remove the idiotic Hazard flag.

      1. Totti
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        i think it's not a minor one
        unfortunately chelsea are on the edge
        costa and hazard 🙁
        what a blow

    • FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Hello. Yes or no to these questions, would like some opinions.

      1. Will Spurs keep a CS?
      2. Will MUN score?
      3. Allen to score again?

      1. LC1
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Yes x3.

      2. The Fantastic Mr Fox
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        No
        Yes
        At least an assist

      3. Rhinos
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        no
        no
        hell no

      4. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Hmmm

        1. I see Spurs conceding.
        2. I see united scoring.
        3. Can't call due to fixture but possibly playing deep.

      5. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks all

      6. Toonmad
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Im benching allen, reckon Bojan will start in the number 10 role...

    • Slartibartfast
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Looks like I'll be burning my AoA chip to play De Roon vs Chelsea. 😀

      Bellerin injury is a pain. On a -8 already, so don't fancy taking another -4 to sell him.

    • Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      I own both with no bench but I'd still find it amusing if Sanchez played and Hazard didn't

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Same here I agree on that. But I'm actuallly worried about Sanchez. Chile are desperate for those 3 points because they aren't in the most comfortable position for qualifying. I think they are risking Sanchez and not giving a f**k about Wenger.

        1. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          me too but if Sannchez struggling Wenger will be chomping at the bit to stick the knife into Chile so i dont see him being coy bout his fitness, presser should be inmformative (assuming he survives Uruguay)

          1. Karan14
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            I hope so. He's always been bleak about Sanchez after IT break. Usually ends up saying "He returned yesterday we'll assess him and then see". But I agree he might be more informative this time.

        2. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Why should they?

          1. Rhinos
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            they shouldnt but at the same time they have a duty of care to the player

            1. GreennRed
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              If Sanchez wants to help his country qualify for the World Cup it's up to him. He's tough as nails.

              1. Rhinos
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 5 months ago

                disagree, never leave it up to the players, they always wanna play

                1. GreennRed
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 5 months ago

                  Not really. Some are content not to play if they can and still get paid. Sanchez seems to have some integrity about him. For me country should take priority over club.

                  1. Rhinos
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 5 months ago

                    thats a different argument, my point is its up to the medical staff to give him the all clear, the worry is that they will put Chile's needs above that of the players health

                    1. GreennRed
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 5 months ago

                      Fair point. Either way I want him to play this GW. Have just 8 starters (2 suspended) if none of flagged players play. Will prob habe 11.

                      1. Rhinos
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        same here. But would still be amusing given the amount of value monkeys doing the Sanchez to Hazard move last week

    • Hands Guber
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Quoting Metro as a source for confusing matters?! Lol.

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        The metro don't have sources they just copy someone else .

        1. Hands Guber
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah,my point is it's complete nonsense quoting Metro. It's lazy imo,they don't deal in facts they deal in controversy.

    • Karan14
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Which differentials according to you will do well from now up till Christmas?

      Some of the players I think will do well are:

      Chadli & Siggy (4/5th mid options)
      Kane (possible Aguero/Lukaku/Costa replacement)

      Walcott could also come good his ownership is only 12.5% now.

      KDB is an option too but City double with Pep's rotation could be a nightmare.

      Ozil has been firing too. But if Cazorla is back it will hamper his points output from set peices (got 2 assists when Cazorla was out).

      Appreciate your thoughts!

      1. Sauzée
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Brunt, Boufal, Baston.

        1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Brunt i hope so

      2. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Ozil
        Giroud
        Siggurdson
        Eriksen

        1. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Totally forgot about Eriksen. Could be a great pick!

      3. The Fantastic Mr Fox
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Wally onwership still well above 10%. U can't really call him a differential.
        First 2, KDB and ozil yes. I'd throw Giroud into the mix as well

        1. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          You could say Wally is a half differential now. Giroud becoming an option wil surely impact Sanchez's position & may points too which sucks. But I'm seriously looking at a Sanchez replacement now already own Hazard.

      4. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        In trying to decide if I should get in Chadli for his kind run and play 352 or get Defoe and stick to the reliable 343.

        1. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Austin over Defoe? Sunderland fixtures aren't great after Hull. I think Chadli is going to be a great pick at 6.4m soon.

    • Atimis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      One more time

      Would you have:
      A)Walker, Heaton, 4.3 def
      B)Alonso, Valdes, 4.4 def

      Or sell Allen to have Alonso and Heaton ?

      Cheers guys !

      1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Sell Allen and get those 2

    • DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Matalan ad still playing on my S6

      1. Rhinos
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        treat yourself to a nice jacket then

    • _Gunner
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Who would you play next week?

      A- Cech
      B- Pickford (have Kone)

      1. Rhinos
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        same combo, ill prob play cech but its really a coin toss

        1. _Gunner
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks mate, leaning towards that myself.

      2. Jones Town
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I'm playing Pickford but don't have Kone, so would probably play Cech in that case

    • J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      New community article

      Here's Disable with a stock check on Sky's top bonus, MoTM magnets as well as the state of play with transfers.

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/11/14/sky-sports-stock-check/

      1. Hands Guber
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Need this guy back every week! My Sky season has suffered without Luke this year!

    • knirkefritt
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Bench one
      1) Benteke (Home vs City)
      2) Bolasie (Home vs Swansea)
      3) Allen (Home vs Bournemouth)

      Bench one
      A) Evans (Home vs Burnley)
      B) Clyne (Away vs Southampton)
      C) Stones (Away vs Palace)

      And what goalie to play: Grant or Foster?

      1. Bleach †
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        3
        Clyne
        Foster

        1. knirkefritt
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks. I was thinking the same, but it's close

        2. Adz87
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          This

      2. DantheManinaPan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        1
        C
        Foster

      3. onlyonearsenewenger
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I have both Evans and Foster as well, could work both ways this GW. But I would still play Foster ahead of Grant who could lose his place to Butland.

        Also bench Allen and Clyne.

    • Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Imagine a Klavan autosub last night 🙁

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Merry Christmas mate.

    • Dele
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      What are peoples thoughts on this line up, is it worth transferring out Sanchez to spread some value across the defence? Arsenal have a pretty good run of fixtures coming up. Or anyone else by that matter with all these injury concerns!

      Heaton, (Jaku)
      Morgan, Clyne, Pieters (Smith, Holebas)
      Hazard, Sanchez, Firmino, Allen (Capoue)
      Austin, Aguero (C), Lukaku

    • Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney about to be flagged, will somebody please think of the children

      1. Worzel Gummidge
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Has there been an FFS deleted tweet and injury rumour?

      2. tattywelshie
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        What's the maximum hit you'd take in a GW? I'm on a --4pt hit so far, but only have 2 defenders to play...so thinking of going for a -8pt hit!

        A.4pt
        B.8pt
        C.12pt
        D. Hits are bad, never ever!

        1. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          every hit is different, treat them seperately, if you think yours will gain you more long term then go for it, just try to avoid lots of hits to nail people with good fixtures that gw, the percentages will be against you

          1. tattywelshie
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah, good point. It's my defence that's in pieces, id be looking at Smith > Pieters for long term, totally agree on long term 🙂

        2. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          It really depends on the situation, and the potential risk/return of the hit.

          I personally don't like taking hits, and have only taken a -4 on a handful of occasions over the past 3 seasons. Never anything more.

        3. Forza Papac
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          The FFS community are overly frugal with their hits in my opinion.

          I took a -12 last week to get in Hazard, Coutinho, Gundogan and Allen (Walcott, Son, Capoue and Payet out). Ended up being 14 points better off for those transfers and gained over 1.0 in team value.

          At this stage of the season it's better to have a squad of players on the way up. Don't keep players who's form is dipping for the sake of saving a few points in the meantime. You can make those points back towards the end of the season.

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Look at the hof analysis of the top players. It is no coincidence they don't take his often. You may have won this time but over the longer term you probably lower out even though you don't realise it

        4. David Slade
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Took two -16s last season and still finished 13k. Analyse each hit on its own. I'm looking at Bellerin to Alonso for -4 but still want more news on the injury.

      3. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Do Brazil play Tuesday night? As in UK time Tuesday nighttime - early Wednesday AM?

        Also forgive my ignorance, but are Firmino, and Coutinho both expected start for Brazil?

        1. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          yep. Coutinho will, Firmino wont

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Cheers, I'm on WC, and struggling to settle of my midfield;

            a. Hazard, Sanchez, Firmino, Allen (de roon)
            b. Hazard, Walcott, Firmino, Coutinho (de roon)

            Obviously a lot has been written about Sanchez, but thinking double Liverpool could be risky also.

            1. Cato Fong 你好
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Nothing risky about double Liverpool mids so far bud 😉

              1. HamezMace
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 5 months ago

                Very true, just hope they don't suffer from jet lag!

                1. Cato Fong 你好
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 5 months ago

                  Private jet complete with Latino masseuses, they'll be grand 😉

      4. Aubaaaaa
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Bench one below:

        Williams
        Rose
        Fuchs
        Gundogan
        Allen

      5. Scotty B
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Who to start?

        Pickford or Heaton

        Which two to bench?

        Clyne Vertonghen Evans Pieters

        1. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Play - Pickford
          Bench - Clyne, and Pieters

          1. Scotty B
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Sorry I meant bench 1 as already benching Amat

            1. HamezMace
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              In that case, I would say Pieters has a better chance of a CS, but Clyne has a better chance of attacking returns...your call.

      6. RustyBz
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        What's the news on Sanchez & Hazard injuries?

        1. Hands Guber
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Most of this article is about the Hazard injury cowboy.

          1. RustyBz
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            That'll teach me to read the article. I thought Sanchez was gonna be out for like 6 weeks with a torn calf muscle?

        2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Martinez said Hazard is not injured , Sanchez is still going to play against Uruguay .

          1. RustyBz
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Bet Wenger is over the moon

        3. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Hazard's knock has been exaggerated by the media.

          Sanchez we will know more after Uruguay. But it looks like he is going to start for Chile. Hoping he is fit!

          1. RustyBz
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            That game will be a blood bath, he could easily pick up another injury

      7. Iceball
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Pickford Jak
        Koscielny Lovren Smith Walker Amat
        Sanchez Sterling Coutinho Firmino Allen
        Kun Lukaku Diomande
        1ft 0.1m itb.
        First thinking was getting Hazard for Sanchez (or Sterling but then downgrade Kos or Lukaku but not to fond of that)
        Second thinking now is to just fix defense, like Smith to Evans. Maybe even take no hit, just that one transfer (if Sanchez is all right)
        What do you think?

        1. RustyBz
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I did Sanchez to Hazard with the plan of doing Sterling to Walcott later

      8. FFS and Hazard Doubt
        Mark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        So here’s some transparency on how we work our injuries at our end.

        We do have rules and guidelines that we work to for injuries that occur in matches – the first trigger is the Opta feed for the commentary. Opta judge every substitution and, if they feel an injury has been suffered, they mention this in the commentary they provide.

        If a player is shown as being subbed due to injury then that triggers a search at our end to find another source to collaborate that – normally that’s an official club feed that confirms the sub due to a knock or injury or perhaps another news source or commentary.

        If we find another source reporting a potential problem, we normally (99% of the time) add as a doubt at 75%.

        In the case of Hazard this was the exact route followed. The commentary confirmed a problem, the footage we saw and the Daily Mail report that followed also confirmed that the withdrawal was not tactical. That was enough to trigger us adding him as a doubt at our end.

        We then scour post-match evidence but we don’t rely on that before we add a doubt.

        Why? Because not all players get mentioned in post-match interviews and not all managers even do post-match interviews – how do we deal with Jack Rodwell’s being mentioned as withdrawn through injury if Moyes does no interview?

        To be consistent, we have to have a system that works for all and stick with the above rules and then go from there. Obviously we update the injury with any post-match developments and we continue to monitor injuries leading up to deadline.

        It’s not perfect, however, we’ve been tracking injuries and bans for seven years and I think we do a decent job and we try to be consistent.

        There is no perfect solution – no 100% inside track and insight available - we do our best to keep you up to date based on our own in-house guidelines on adding injuries and doubts.

        I’m quite happy to enter into conversation on particular injuries if I have time. Ledley you say? Commentary says subbed due to injury but we’ve found no indication of anything other than tiredness – if we see a second source, we would add as doubt. Again – we try to be consistent and we have rules.

        I can’t go into how FPL/ISM run things at their end – that’s not my business so I can’t speak for them. But I know we’re a source they use and that’s been the case for six seasons now. We continue to alert them to all kinds of things via email – we often rely on you guys to draw attention to this stuff via your comments and things get fixed and improved via that process.

        My own view on the FPL flags is that, primarily, they are there to offer early warning to those possibly buying and selling – particularly buying.

        In the case of Hazard, if he had no flag and I’d have bought him last night to read the reports and chatter this morning, I’d be disappointed, perhaps angry, that I had no warning of a potential issue. The flags should serve this purpose.

        In my view – a unanimous view shared by Physioroom, Premier Injuries and Rotowire all excellent sources of injury news who also have him logged this morning – there is a doubt surrounding Hazards’ availability for GW12.

        So every single source that logs injuries that I’m aware of also share the same view on this – there is doubt surrounding Hazard’s GW12 availability.

        On Thursday/Friday, I’d wager we will see Conte questioned on Costa and Hazard’s availability. We will see BBC reporting that “Conte will need to assess Hazard and Costa ahead of the trip to Middlesbrough”.

        That would be enough to suggest there is doubt but, if the flag was not added until Thurs/Friday, then we would have seen a lot of FPL buying Hazard when, already, there is reason to suggest that he could be a doubt, however, minor, for GW12.

        Just minutes ago ESPN have just published a story that backs this up further.

        http://www.espn.co.uk/football/club/chelsea/363/blog/post/2996134/eden-hazard-and-diego-costa-fitness-to-keep-antonio-conte-awake-at-night

        “Although the substitution appeared precautionary, Hazard will likely find himself on the Chelsea doctor's treatment table when he returns to Stamford Bridge.”

        So now we have another news source suggesting that Hazard will likely need assessment.

        Fair enough if, despite all this, you feel that Hazard is 100% certain to play in GW12.

        Personally, I don’t believe we can be that certain – Martinez’ quotes seem a bit confused and lost in translation and it’s an absolute fact that Hazard came off with a problem. That problem could have flared up and could worsen. We don’t know, it’s speculation but we do know that there is “a doubt”, however small.

        For those without Hazard, pondering a move last night or this morning, I personally think it would be a disservice to give them the impression that he is 100% certain to start in GW12.

        For those with Hazard, you see that he’s 75% certain to play. For me, that does the job. Nobody should sell Hazard with that flag but those looking to sign him will hold off until Friday.

        I’ve still no idea how the flags work with price rises – we have never gone into that world and I don’t want to. First and foremost, this is about the injury doubt – I hope I’ve explained my view on that above.

        Apologies in advance if I can’t come back to this thread today to discuss further.

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I agree with the decision to flag him. He went off with a knock and in discomfort and an obvious issue. People are quite selfish and think things should go their way to benefit them only and do not care about the more casual players who rely on the flags only (and do not look at other sources).

          The fact that various news sources have come out to say hazard will be assessed further is good enough reason to have him flagged.

          1. Rhinos
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            personally i couldnt care less bout impact on the fpl game, my issue is with the speed at which unverified waffle is treated as news

        2. _Freddo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Sorry Mark, but you know and everyone knows that most news sources run stories from the same tweet

          Just because 3 or 4 news sources report it doesn't mean it's right, perfect case is Sanchez last week, one tweet was pushed out and several stories were written as a result of said tweet, not sure it's any less sloppy because 3 or 4 outlets reported it, I'm sure none would have covered their tracks had they all waited to hear what Martinez said about it first.

          Very weak and very sloppy way to run the game.

          1. _Freddo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            I'm sure it's also safe to say that Hazard is a pretty significant player and I doubt him coming off would have slipped under the radar in the after match press conference/interview.

            It is what it is, someone shot their load early.

            1. Mark
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 17 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              I don't understand. What do tweets have to do with this?

              We tweeted the Daily Mail because they reported it - we always tweet stories run by the media - we don't state them as fact, we pass on the info - that's what our twitter feed is for.

              Opta feed says subbed due to injury. Every source of injury data says he's a doubt. No decision was based solely off a tweet - I've explained that above.

              If you're discounting tweets then we can throw out the sources quoting Martinez on Twitter? Of course not. It all adds to the mix. The mix points to Hazard being a doubt and, again, every single source of injury news agrees.

              Of course some sources are unreliable but there has to be a point where there is enough noise to have us consider a player an injury doubt. Personally, I only take the red flags as certainties - the doubts are early warnings that give a heads up on a potential absence.

              When you say shot their load? You presumably feel he's 100% available for GW12 and that you disagree with FFS and all the other sources that feel that there's an element of doubt.

              Fair enough. Let's just see how the BBC report it on Thursday/Friday and if Conte is questioned on Hazard's availability.

              1. _Freddo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 5 months ago

                You tried to justify flagging him because you saw 3 or 4 sources reporting it, I'm highlighting that what usually happens now is that 3 or 4 sources tend to pick up info from one report/tweet and it snowballs from this.

                If the FFS account was to tweet out now that Sanchez has broken down in training, by the end of the day 3 or 4+ sources would be reporting it and several papers would probably pick up on it too, it was irresponsible to act so quickly without some clarification from the manager and the fact that 3 or 4 sources also shot their load doesn't make it any less sloppy.

                Last week, one unofficial twitter account reported that Sanchez had a slight injury, it spread with several sources way before Chilie cleared it up, that's social media.

                The media and said sources will cover their tracks and say he's to be assessed because they all got ahead of themselves and declared him injured before Martinez had a chance to speak.

              2. _Freddo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 5 months ago

                Mark, quick question while your hear really flags, Hazard's went up before any clarification was given that he was injured, why are flags not removed at the same speed?

                There were several pictures of Walcott in full training last week, he was clearly not injured but his flag remained on Fri night and he dropped on Sat morning.

                Where's the consistency?

                1. _Freddo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 5 months ago

                  *While you're here.

                  (On the mobile)

                2. Mark
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 17 Years
                  7 years, 5 months ago

                  Because experience tells me that images of a player in training is not enough to remove all doubt. Could be a fitness test for all we know. In the case of Walcott, he was pictured training in isolation. Again, every source reported him as remaining a doubt on Friday. None of us were 100% certain on his availability, despite the images we saw that reassured us.

                  Also, removing a 75% flag for people to buy him, only to find that he is not 100% certain to play is far more damaging surely?

                  If folk sell him when he's 75% certain to play, then I don't think they can really direct blame. It's pretty clear that it favours the player being available.

                  1. _Freddo
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 5 months ago

                    OK, thanks for the response although Walcott was pictured training with the team and not on his own on Arsenal.com

                    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20161105/arsenal-train-before-north-london-derby

                    I don't care about the Hazard flag but just want a bit of consistency and care, if every player that walks of gingerly at the weekend get's flagged then there will be chaos, I also don't believe Hazard would have been flagged after Martinez spoke had someone at FPL waited.

                    1. Sir Edo
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 5 months ago

                      What is the discussion about? Flags to be added or removed too late and too early?

                      It's all about making your own picture of the situation. FFS is not the law, FFS just keeps you informed about information that is avaliable at the moment.

                      Rembember, no injury is like the other. No managers post press conferance is like the other.

                      Yes, sometimes a price rice/fall is a result of a certian color of the flag,
                      but it's a part of the game. It' the same for all scouts..

            2. abreu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Early or late - I think your shots are all off target

              Ofcourse he should be flagged when coming off with a minor injury, supported by the opta eye.

        3. TheTinman
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Should be a new post not a sticky?

        4. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          the problem is that what constitutes a doubt means different things to different people. When the manger says he will be fine surely that has more credance than a paper spouting waffle. Problem is social media has created such a varacious appetite for instant truth that these things snowball to the point of you having to flag him.

          1. Ruth_NZ
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            That really is the point.

            Had Stan Bowles or Peter Osgood got a kick like that nothing would have been said, they would have run it off and they would have played the next game.

            One can become over-reactive I think.

            As for protecting managers from transferring in a player with some doubt - they can always check for themselves before making the move. People don't have to be spoon-fed everything, do they? Sure, if the player has an actual problem - a hamstring strain, a broken toe - then flag them. But a kick on the calf? It's a bit much to flag that unless there's some clear indication that it's more serious.

            1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              No one on here checks for injury news . The vast majority of people will ask first rather than checking the scout tweets , simply checking newsnow or googling the players name + the word injury . I don't that is every going to change tbh .

              1. Ruth_NZ
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 5 months ago

                Caveat emptor. That's my point.

            2. Chelsea Rangers Loyal
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Love the Peter Osgood shout out!

        5. PompeyUpNorth!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Very well put, thanks a lot for taking the time to write this....

        6. The Fantastic Mr Fox
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I think a part of the confusion arose when a tweet was put up and later taken down. That seems to suggest that it was erroneous or hastily removed to prevent some sort of backlash. If the system is strong, there would be no need to remove the tweet.
          Since FPL seems to rely on FFS data for injuries (to what extent, we don't kmow), it put added onus on accurate reporting. Waiting half an hour for a possible manager interview or an inside source quote wouldn't go amiss. Those jump onto making transfers immediately after a game, shouldn't be given priority over those who could be potentially affected by an uncessary Flag (given how much it affects price change)

          I'm on wc, so this situation doesn't affect me. But in general I'd like to see FFS and FPL not rush so quickly to Flag up a player

          1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            And good on you to take the time to respond. Much appreciated

          2. Mark
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 17 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            The removal of the first tweet from us was an error and my fault. When the Martinez quote came out, we didn't mean to remove the first tweet but add a second. We corrected this later. Nothing sinister there.

            1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Fair enougb. If you ask me, that little kerfuffle started the whole issue. And tbh, a mountain has been made out of a molehill

        7. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I must commend Mark's commitment to the community. Regardless of the discussion, the fact that he went to the length he did explain FFS decisions is commendable. This is why I love this place 🙂

          1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Yes. Not many forum Admins would take the trouble so often to address these issues. In that respect, this is a well-run site

          2. Mark
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 17 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks - this is what upsets me the most - I was here lurking from 10pm last night and on the phone to folk discussing the injury with staff. I was up till the early hours but waited till this morning to post with a clear head.

            If there are folk out there who feel I no longer care about their views, the site or the game, they are very much mistaken.

            1. Dino
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              I don't think anyone thinks that Mark, but I do think there are some good points here and I don't think you would have had these issues pre the twitter era (not saying you are using Twitter for sources but media outlets do and there is a mad dash to report with little repercussions for these outlets who call it wrong).

              Maybe your quality control procedures should be looked at to reflect the twitter era we find ourselves in?

        8. The Fantastic Mr Fox
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I think the Yellow Flag shud be kept for warning purposes with no impact on Price Change. Higher levels can entail change of thresholds. Too many yellow flags have come uo this season, too often. And they've had a fairly significant effect on price changes

        9. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Mark has explained that ffs go's on opta info, that's fair enough.
          The bigger issue should be what should constitute a flag. There is no doubt that Hazard came off with an injury, the question is whether that in itself should be enough for a flag or whether should wait at least till the manger has spoken. In essence a high percentage of subs will be due to some level of injury or fatigue, how and who decides at what point is this worthy of a flag?

          1. Mark
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 17 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            As I say above, what happens when the manager doesn't speak?

            Leave a player unflagged until confirmation for folk to buy him when there is clearly some doubt because he was subbed due to injury?

            That certainly gives us the advantage here but for ISM/FPL, they don't want to be farming emails pointing out reports and tweets and asking why they weren't warned earlier in the week.

            You can say that folk can do their own research but FPL/ISM and every Fantasy Football operator in the world wants to deliver a good service and that includes info and guidance on player availability.

            1. Rhinos
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              this is my point about instant news, a few years ago only a few diehards would even have known that he took a kick whereas now there will be gifs of it circling social media seconds after the event. You are forced to act, its a sad truth of the modern world

            2. Numb
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              At least wait till after the post matches. Then, if the manager doesn't speak or doesn't mention the player, then decide whether to flag based on fuller information.

              Aguero grimaces and limps off every time he is subbed off - should FPL flag him then? Or wait to see if anything official is said?

            3. Dino
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Yes imo leave folk who make early transfers to deal with the repercussions.

              Perceived wisdom on how to play this game when I started was to wait until friday/Saturday morning until after official press conferences before making transfers. By spoonfeeding unqualified (yes I don't believe opya have a physio with access to the player coming off to discern if it is an injury or not) information to the masses we exacerbate the price fluctuations that hurt the more patient managers waiting for official confirmation.

        10. Sconeaus - The Dude Abides
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks for that, great to get clarification. And seems a very logical and fair way to do it.

          Some over the top ridiculously critical posters RE this issue. I've only been a member for 2 years, love the site and the articles and scoutcast, keep up the good work.

          Up to people to do their own research also, if someone is a doubt 75% then it's minor, not scouts fault if people panic or transfer in or out. Some people coming out giving out about stuff completely out of marks control n getting irate, take a chill pill n enjoy the season.

          That's my tuppence worth
          Owen

        11. KickIt
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Think the main point here is that the flag is just a warning, would prefer to have some sort of warning before making a transfer rather then having none. Also agree that it is nice to see this level of feedback to the community on discussions of this nature. Thanks.

        12. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks for taking the time to respond Mark, but there seems to be some confusion over the timing of the events. As I recall it, someone from FFS tweeted very quickly that he had come off injured, based on nothing other than what they had seen. Then he got flagged. Then the tweet was removed after people questioned the original tweet, then the tweet regarding the mail story was posted. Am I wrong? I apologise if so but I don't think I am.

          1. Mark
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 17 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah, we tweeted and added Hazard doubt at our end. Then I was chatting to folk here when the Martinez comment broke and said we should tweet that - at that point we mistakingly deleted the first tweet but we reinstated it later along with the follow up.

            The original tweet wasn't based on "nothing other than what they had seen" it was relaying the Mail's story but, at that point, we'd also checked the Opta log of the injury withdrawal so we had that to go on too. Plus we'd had seen the footage.

            As mentioned though, our tweets can just draw attention to a source report - I've no qualms in reporting a Mail story via our Twitter feed. We often say - "the Mail reports that..." so that folk know that we're not stating our opinion or fact.

        13. Worzel Gummidge
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks for responding to Hazardgate. The main point of your post is that a flag is to warn potential new owners of a potential injury irrespective of how baseless it may/may not be. Why does FPL then insist on punishing existing owners by resetting the transfers in and therefore reducing the potential price rise. Fair enough flag the player all you want FPL but why punish existing owners by resetting the transfers in? Also they are pretty fast at adding flags but take an eternity to remove. Perhaps these simple changes could be put forward to FPL as currently it is not a fair process.

            1. nobwak
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Fair in the sense that its the same process for every player on the game, surely.

              1. Worzel Gummidge
                  7 years, 5 months ago

                  It is not fair as it benefits non owners and not existing owners. I think this is pretty clear it is not fair. Unless you don't understand what has been written.

                  1. nobwak
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 5 months ago

                    i do understand, see below.

                  2. nobwak
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 5 months ago

                    Also, imagine an owner that sells based on a "false flag" - getting the player back again, when its apparent that the flag was false, is made a little easier due to the price freeze.

                    1. Worzel Gummidge
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        That is all based on user decisions which can't be changed. I am talking about functionality within the game which is instinctively favourable to non owners and a kick in the gonads to existing owners.

                • nobwak
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 5 months ago

                  Like yeah you're annoyed on this occasion because you evidently own Hazard, but there may be other occasions where you don't own the player in question, but want to, and the process can work in your favour.

                  1. Worzel Gummidge
                      7 years, 5 months ago

                      The point is it is not fair as something within the game benefits non owners and the resetting of NTI does the opposite for owners. That is not fair. A simple solution would be to not reset NTI. I dont care if a player is flagged within 1 minute of an apparent doubt rumour whether I am an owner or not. It is the resulting resetting of the NTI which punishes existing owners whilst benefiting non/potential owners. Negligible yes, fair, no.

                      1. nobwak
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        You know what Worzel, I actually agree with you, you've talked me round to it.
                        What do you reckon FPL's reasoning for this process is? It is a bit odd!

                        There are gripes I have with the systems in the game too - main one being why do you not just sell a player at their current value, regardless what you purchased them for? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to just always buy and sell for the players current value? Never got my head around the reasoning for that one.

                        1. Worzel Gummidge
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            I really dont know and they either have their reasons or this was just a scenario they haven't thought of. It comes down to why they think resetting the player after a flag is removed makes sense. To me this only benefits non/potential owners and restricts the price rise which obviously is annoying for owners. I dont get as once flagged human nature would be to not buy that player until confirmed out and some will sell so rise will start going backwards anyway. Why reset to 0? Makes no sense.

                            Your second point I think is to make sure you dont have too much money to buy all the best players come 2nd WC IMO. There will be a few reasons behind it and my brain is not in the mood to guess them all 🙂

                            1. nobwak
                              • 8 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Yeah agreed, I'll email them and ask when I'm back at my desk, and let you know what they say!

                          • Rhinos
                            • 10 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            this is what seperates fpl from other fantasy games, you have to make the decision whether to hold a player or lose, if you could always sell at current price then there would be no decision. Its the best part of the game

                            1. nobwak
                              • 8 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Of course there is a decision. There's the decision on whether or not you think that player will go and score the following week?

                        2. RedLightning
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                          • 13 Years
                          7 years, 5 months ago

                          Are you certain that NTI is reset when a yellow flag is removed, or does it only happen when a flag goes directly from red to green?

                          I believe the price change algorithm was changed a few seasons back, after one player (I think it was RVP) was repeatedly flagged and then played anyway, with the result that his price did not drop despite massive sales. Fergie's mind games may have had something to do with it.

                          1. Worzel Gummidge
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Non red flag to normal resets NTI to zero based on FPLS. Checked this with Stones and a few others and always went back to zero. Red to normal just stops price changes for a week or so.

                              1. RedLightning
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                                • 13 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                Thanks, Worzel.
                                I may have been confusing it with a change to price protection.

                    • FPL Virgin
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 5 months ago

                      Wild Rover should apologise. It was clear nothing sinister was going on.

                      1. Wild Rover
                        • 13 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        It's you who should be apologising mate, I never suggested there was anything sinister going on

                    • Pochecinno
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 5 months ago

                      Thanks for clearing this up, Mark. The news about Hazard, at least, is certainly appreciated.

                      There still appears to be inconsistency in removing flags, however. I understand a flag needs to be put up for a player who maybe potentially injured so new buyers don't hasten into buying him. But by the same token flags should be removed just as quickly so that sellers don't hasten to sell him.

                      Let's take Walker as our example because it was the one used before. Before Hazard's second price rise and in a rush to fit him in, a flagged and expensive Walker would have deemed very dispensable to someone scrambling to fit Hazard in. Walker should no longer have been flagged as he was selected for the England squad after picking up his apparent injury.

                      Surely the tardiness in removing Walker's flag has now done a disservice to someone who may have wanted to keep him.

                      1. TorresMagic™
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 14 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        Playing for England would have been a clue if they wanted to keep.

                      2. Sir Edo
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        The flag and injury discussion is all about the lost and gained price. Price rise here, price rice there...
                        Thinking price rise is essential for reaching success? I say No!

                        I have never made transfer to catch a price rise and I'm doing quite good even though my Team Value is bad.
                        Team Value will look after itself as long as you buy the right players.

                        1. Twelve years a slave
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          7 years, 5 months ago

                          Well done Mark !!

                          Would much rather the scouts adopt a cautious approach and flag players up, even if thE doubt is very minor.
                          Affter all the flag just means he 75% to play.
                          Dont understand what all the fuss is about. W

                          1. Gangster Panda
                            • 8 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            I completely agree - 75% to play is still pretty good. There's no point them messing around with anything between that & 100.

                            If I see a flag & 75%, I consider the onus on me to do my own research & make my own decisions, it ain't rocket science.

                      3. Mark
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 17 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        That's not a good example as Walker was still talked about as a doubt by Southgate right up until the match...see below

                        http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tottenham-full-back-kyle-walker-carrying-injury-despite-being-named-england-squad-1590273

                        I'm not saying errors aren't made but, also, I do think folk underestimate the attention that this part of the site gets. I was watching Walker all week. We removed our doubt status when he came through the game unscathed.

                        Also again, the FPL had the 75% flag on him - folk may have sold on that basis but, can they really blame the flag for that decision. It's 75% for a reason - to suggest doubt not to suggest he's ruled out.

                        1. Sir Edo
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 5 months ago

                          I don't think you have to defend your desicions Mark.
                          Is there anyone knowing about injuried players and staying updated, its you and your team.

                          Maybe pepole don't understand the complexity of keeping an eye on 100 players on intenational duty,
                          and also being a medical, psychologist and a webmaster at the same time.

                          Keep your FFS team going in the same way you have always done. This is a non issue. 😉

                    • John t penguin
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 5 months ago

                      Can I just add that I don't care when anyone puts up flags or what source they use. If this is all you have to worry about in life then life must be good.
                      Yours from moral high ground JTD

                      1. Twelve years a slave
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        If life was good then they would not be moaning about flags.
                        Complaining about red flags is a red flag in itself.

                    • Numb
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 5 months ago

                      You say that you don't understand how the flags work with price rises. Well, if you know that FPL use you as a prime source for injuries you should get to understand this IMO.

                      You started reporting Hazard as injured too early then FPL flagged him based on that. If you'd waited just 20 or 30 mins till the post match interview you'd have seen that Martinez said specifically that he is NOT injured. Therefore he is LESS of a doubt than almost any other player in the game at that point. Did he confirm that Lukaku WASNT injured? No.

                      The effect of your premature reporting and FPL's premature flagging is that we have probably lost a 0.1 rise on Hazard. That means, for example, that I can no longer afford to bring Sanchez back in for Hazard after this weekend. That could cost, conceivably, me my minileague and a lot of money.

                      Just wait for more official word rather than rushing in to generate clicks is all I ask. Thanks.

                      1. Fitzy.
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        Hasn't it been established that it's actually FFS that is responsible for the flags, not FPL itself?

                        1. Numb
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 5 months ago

                          Not exactly but FPL seem to use FFS as a prime source of information from what Mark is saying.

                          1. Fitzy.
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/11/13/the-watchlist-updated-goalkeepers-2/?hc_page=5#hc_comment_14447908

                            And Mark up above states - "..we normally (99% of the time) add as a doubt at 75%"

                      2. Mark
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                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 17 Years
                        7 years, 5 months ago

                        So do you really feel that is absolutely no doubt that Hazard is 100% fit. That, even though he came off the pitch on his own request and Martinez confirmed he'd suffered a knock/kick, there is absolutely no chance that he's anything less than 100% fit.

                        As I keep saying, every source that logs injuries has Hazard listed - Physioroom, Premier Injuries and Rotoworld - they all agree there's a degree of doubt.

                        Plus, reports today, even those like the Mail who insist he's fine, include language and terms like "expected to be available".

                        And yet you feel there's no need to warn anyone considering buying Hazard that he may have suffered a knock which puts some doubt on his availability for GW12?

                        Just to be clear, I totally expect Hazard to be fit and play at Boro but I also expect the press to question Conte this week on his availability which, for me, confirms that they go into the conference with a doubt on his fitness.

                        I might be totally wrong. His name may not come up in the presser. They may well be totally convinced that he's 100% fit - and not even waste a question. We will see.

                        But I don't agree that price impact should be a consideration with the flags. Surely players should be flagged consistently without any influence from the impact on prices?

                        Cater for a minority group who play the prices using rules that aren't even published/discussed and are constantly shifting behind the scenes and, in doing so, risk shafting a bigger group of managers who may blissfully transfer in a player who may not be available. I'm not convinced ISM will buy that as an idea.

                        For me, the price changes are the key problem, not the system behind the flags - the price rise system remains a niche, dark art, hidden strategy which is the privilege for a minority who feel an unrealistic sense of entitlement from a set of unwritten shifting rules. We're always getting frustrated by it and it's not healthy for the game as a whole.

                        1. Worzel Gummidge
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            The flag removal shouldn't reset NTI. That gets sorted then no one cares about flags any longer and is fair to owners/non owners. Yes he shouldn't have been flagged. These sources are based on nothing apart from coming off with a kick which doesnt mean he is injured. His manger confirmed he was not injured. Dont care what unsubstantiated rags make up based on him coming off early.

                            1. Mark
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                              • 17 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              But the manager quote is being communicated by the said "unsubstantiated" rags, plus the quote seemed to change from calf to ankle overnight.

                              Plus Martinez will clearly want to calm fears of a major problem - that doesn't eliminate all doubt that a minor injury has been suffered - something was wrong - he came off with a problem - nobody can deny that.

                              Aside from that, the big factor here is that, if there are reports published that describe Hazard as a doubt or use language that suggest it, then that in itself, creates the doubt surrounding the player's availability for those playing FPL.

                              If, by some unfortunate twist, Hazard does miss out at the weekend, how would ISM deal with all the angry emails linking to those articles from all the managers who may have bought Hazard since last night? Do they want to risk that?

                              Do you not think that a 75% flag is effective at eliminating that risk? That's its very purpose.

                              1. Worzel Gummidge
                                  7 years, 5 months ago

                                  Lets just base it on facts and quotes are facts. Whatever is made up by the rags should be ignoredas they are not reporting but simply making up stories to publish (thats their job). We can sit here and sugar coat it all we want and come up with reasoning which is fair enough IMO. He didn't come off injured as he came off due to a kick which Martinez confirmed was NO injury (you say theres a doubt then fine). People have mentioned Aguero always comes of grimacing and some outlets say he could be injured but he doesn't get flagged (Martinez specifically said he wasn't injured). Think we can just agree to disagree here as tbh actual flagging is not the problem (well not for me)

                                  You keep mentioning potential owners but never mention current owners or the impact on them. The flag removal process is the issue not the flag getting applied even though I disagreed with it. NTI should not be reset. Fix that, fix the apparent problem people have. That simple. Trigger happy flagging will then impact non owners and owners to a similar fashion. Not just give owners a short straw.

                                • Mark
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                                  • 17 Years
                                  7 years, 5 months ago

                                  Here's a report from the Express two hours ago...

                                  http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/732274/Chelsea-news-injuries-Thibaut-Courtois-eye-doctor-Diego-Costa-Eden-Hazard-latest

                                  "Hazard, who has scored eight goals in eight games, has a minor calf problem picked up on Belgium duty, but is expected to be fit."

                                  This is what I'm saying. That sentence above suggests doubt - there's no argument.

                                  It's the last sentence of an article on Courtois - there's no motivation to whip up controversy by that statement - it's a journalist reporting their own understanding of the situation - that Hazard picked up a problem but is expected to be fit. Not certain. Expected.

                                  Anyone who has bought Hazard in the last 24-hours and reads that will be concerned and would be slightly miffed as to why there was no flag.

                                  So, how does the game protect themselves against that risk without using a 75% flag?

                                  Do they really think to themsleves - "lets take the risk, otherwise it will upset those waiting for the next 0.1 price rise" - it's not going to happen.

                                  Like you say, the flags perhaps shouldn't impact the NTI but, like I mention, the doubts and injuries should be added irrespective of impact on price rises.

                                  1. Dino
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 14 Years
                                    7 years, 5 months ago

                                    Why should unsubstantiated doubts be flagged though? That cpuld/likely is a reporter who has seen something on twitter and is reporting it.

                                    Might I suggest no flags unless there is quotations from a club official re an injury?

                                    1. Mark
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                                      • 17 Years
                                      7 years, 5 months ago

                                      But in Hazard's case the reports are based on the player requesting to be subbed and hobbling off. I don't think the reports suggesting an injury doubt are unsubstantiated on that basis. We all saw it - he suffered an issue which meant he felt he couldn't play on.

                                      If anything, it's the Martinez quote being communicated on Twitter, not the suggestion of an injury and yet some are totally convinced that these counter reports and safely eliminate all doubt.

                                      Re: official confirmation - that would see no player being flagged early and also relies on clubs communicating effectively and quickly on injuries. I think that will lead to a lot of frustration for those who don't visit this site.

                                      Actually, you might be on to something 😉

                                      1. Dino
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 14 Years
                                        7 years, 5 months ago

                                        I follow your logic on hazard but I'm no physio so I wouldn't even pretend to assess an injury based on this.

                                        I've seen plenty of players getting subbed early and not receive flags in the past also.

                                        I seriously think don't flag unless there is official news. Let people come on here or use Google before making transfers if they want to go early but making transfer decisions on flags based on unofficial information strikes me as potentially misleading as many as it may benefit?

                                        You are a credit to yourself and the site btw for the way you handle these contentious issues.

                                      2. Ruth_NZ
                                        • 9 Years
                                        7 years, 5 months ago

                                        I think the same.

                                        Chelsea usually report injuries quickly on the website. They straightforwardly reported Costa's withdrawal from the Spain squad "due to injury".

                                        With Hazard they have given no indication of any concern at all. They reported him as being "taken off" with Belgium 6-1 up. That's all.

                                        Not one responsible person associated with the player has suggested there's a problem as far as I know. Whereas Sanchez has been un-flagged despite Chile acknowledging he has had a muscle tear, despite missing his last game and despite Wenger saying it would be "suicidal" to play him on Tuesday. It makes no sense, Mark.

                                        Flag players where a reliable source has said they are an injury concern. Or when they missed the last match through injury. For the rest, maybe just let FPL managers take responsibility for their own decisions. I think that would save a lot of aggro all round, including for you.

                                        1. Mark
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                                          • 17 Years
                                          7 years, 5 months ago

                                          The Chile manager has said that Sanchez is available and actually said 100% available. Both terms that strongly indicate he's "available". Statements made after days of training and assessment.

                                          Martinez said there was "no injury" but then elaborated to say he'd suffered a knock to his calf and then the quote changed to ankle overnight - in both cases that can be interpreted as saying that Hazard has no serious long term injury but has suffered a knock. For any other player we'd assess, that's a 75% doubt. Also, the quote was given 20 minutes after the match with, presumably, little or no assessment from Martinez' team.

                                          I fail to see how the two can be compared - here. One is far stronger evidence of availability than the other.

                                          Re: players being flagged when subbed through injury - I can assure you that we assess every single player that is reported as subbed through injury via the Opta/PA commentary and if there is enough evidence to support any injury doubt, we add them as doubts/injured.If there are exceptions, there are reasons for it.

                                          That's the issue with Hazard, him being marked as a doubt is 100% consistent with that policy and therefore not adding him as a doubt would be making an exception - particularly in the light of all the stories indicating doubt that have since been published.

                                  2. Worzel Gummidge
                                      7 years, 5 months ago

                                      As mentioned above the flag adding process is not the problem foe as we can all agree or disagree on that. It is the NTI resetting which just impacts owners (negligible I know but folk go nuts with a potential loss of a 0.1 rise :). That needs to be sorted IMO. I understand the actual flagging is tough and will always cause problems/debates. If we base it on what papers publish then fine with me.

                              2. Captain Blanks
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 9 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                Maybe there needs to be something in the flags to differentiate between a player who has definitely picked up a knock and who may or may not be available for the next match, from a player who may or may not be injured.

                                Agree with Worzel also "The flag removal shouldn't reset NTI", this would solve a lot of problems

                                1. Twelve years a slave
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  7 years, 5 months ago

                                  What exactly are these problems?

                                  The people here using these unofficial price change sites are already taking advantage of information which the majority of more casual managers do bot even know exists.
                                  It seems the only problem is people who have bought Hazard having their noses put out because his rise in price is delayed. In the great scheme of things this is less important than having his injury status highlighted for the vast majority.

                                  If there is even the slightest doubt then having a warning flag is useful. Individuals can then make up their own minds on the likelyhood of him starting. Those who see it as a non issue can buy him, while more cautious managers may prefer to wait a week.

                                  The effect of a flag on his price should not even be considered when determining if the flag is appropriate, all that shouod be considered is that there is a doubt over the next start, which in this case there clearly is, however small it may or may not be

                                  1. Ruth_NZ
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 years, 5 months ago

                                    Who says there is a doubt? Belgium didn't say he was injured. Chelsea haven't said he was injured. The player hasn't said he is injured. So it's reliant on the opinion of someone that doesn't actually know.

                                    I remember a while back Aguero limping off at the end of a game having received a hard tackle in the closing seconds. Want him flagged for that? Just in case?

                                    Better not to get into these grey areas, really. Surmise helps no-one.

                                    1. Mark
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                                      • 17 Years
                                      7 years, 5 months ago

                                      Who says he's a doubt? Physioroom, PremierInjuries, Rotowire and about 10-15 new articles in the UK all using terms such as "expected to be available", "likely to be assessed". I reckon that will be followed on Thursday by the BBC preview using terms such as "Chelsea will need to assess both Costa and Hazard" - language and phrases like that indicate doubt.

                                      You can choose to dismiss these stories and sources but if there are multiple stories suggesting any doubt on player availability, then that clearly raises concerns for FPL managers.

                                      We've all been there - we sign a player, read a report saying he's "expected to be available" and in our heads feel gutted because suddenly there's a report suggesting some doubt. We might dismiss it, but it still exists - it still creates doubt on that player. It just seems we're conveniently forgetting this in the case of Hazard because the 0.1 rise has stung folk.

                                      As I keep saying, imagine yourself as an FPL manager who has bought Hazard last night and then reads some of those stories - do you not feel they will feel slightly aggrieved that a player, widely reported in press as possibly injured, is not flagged? Or do you read a tweet with a Martinez quote 20 minutes after the match and feel 100% assured?

                                      The above scenario is exactly why the 75% flag exists - it's used to communicate minor doubt about a player's availability.

                                      1. Dino
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 14 Years
                                        7 years, 5 months ago

                                        This fpl manager should not have bought hazard until the press conferences on Thursday/Friday as he did not know if he might have picked up an injury in the international game. A lot of the rest of us don't have this luxury now due to the idiot you mentioned transferring in early the majority of times.

                                  2. Captain Blanks
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 years, 5 months ago

                                    I'm not specifically referencing the current Hazard debate, my point is about the situation in general.

                                    The purpose of the flags should be to give accurate information of the players availability, this will then naturally affect a players price via people acting on this information (buying or selling).

                                    I also think maybe the information should just be presented, instead of a subjective "75% chance" type comment.

                                    1. Twelve years a slave
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 13 Years
                                      7 years, 5 months ago

                                      “Chelsea star Eden Hazard's calf injury is not serious”

                                      Which is why his flag is 75% which means he will likely play. As I said, I donnt see the problem. People like RuthNZ are free to dismiss newspaper reports etc, and can act by ignoring the flag, while others may choose to be more cautious with their transfer.

                                      It does not matter that some feel there is NO injury, it is unimportant, and a flag should not be dependent on a few vocal posters being boisterous in their opinions. Lut googling Hazard injury shows there is some doubt, however small

                                      1. Captain Blanks
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 9 Years
                                        7 years, 5 months ago

                                        As i've already said "I'm not specifically referencing the current Hazard debate", it clouds the issue because people will clearly come at it from a partisan angle.

                                        My general points are:

                                        1.) The information should be presented as objectively as possible, not subjectively.
                                        When you say "People like RuthNZ are free to dismiss newspaper reports etc, and can act by ignoring the flag, while others may choose to be more cautious with their transfer." this makes my point perfectly. The information is presented and people choose to interpret it how they want.
                                        2.) The price changes will already be affected by people transferring the player in/out so there is no need to superficially alter it

                                  3. Dino
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 14 Years
                                    7 years, 5 months ago

                                    Forget about hazard here for a while as tbh he is only the straw in this discussion.

                                    Flags have a major bearing on price fluctuations for the casual masses as well as those who use price prediction websites, agreed?

                                    If we can agree this then the criteria for attaching flags should be looked at seriously imo as the casual masses that don't check their team until Friday often log in to see one of their players who is fit to play the weekend after dropping 0.2 or 0.3 over the week due to a flag they never knew about based on an injury rumour unsubstantiated by the club.

                                    Thus is a serious flaw in the game currently imo and I think flags should have to be based on official club confirmation even if it takes days to get it. If someone brings in a player in the meantime tough luck to them for making an early transfer without having official confirmation on squad status like the press contents conferences on a Thursday or Friday.

                                    This is not about hazard or the experienced campaigners on here it effects the casual probably more as they don't respond to flags as quick as the ringers on here who get to maintain their value by watching the resultant price fluctuations based on these flags.

                              3. Numb
                                • 9 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                I do think that the doubt on him playing is negligible - nearer to zero than to 25% certainly. Had it been a tight Chelsea game, maybe, but look at the context - an international game 6-1 up and in the closing stages. Hazard wasn't taking any chances. Then the manager confirmed that there was no injury.

                                I think had you waited just a little tiny bit longer FPL would have looked at the situation including Martinez' quote and decided not to flag.

                                I know 0.1 seems negligible but it makes all the difference in some cases.

                          • diesel001
                            • 7 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            There is a simple way to resolve this. Stop protecting prices when players are flagged. Why should a player's price be protected? If people want to buy let them buy and bump up the price. If people want to sell then let them sell and push down the price. If you want it to be a marketplace make it a proper marketplace. If a company announces bad results you don't see the stock exchange and regulators protecting that company's stock price do you.

                            1. Dino
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 14 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              The problem with spurious flags is they will still cause sales as people will be afraid of drops.

                              The issue is flags for me. Flag on a Thursday/Friday or after official confirmation during the week only and it's sorted imo.

                              No more rumour/inexperienced persons watching the game making a judgement call based on what they thought they saw. By all means highlight it on here if you want but fpl flags should only be based on official information with quotes from the club.

                          • AK ⭐
                            • 11 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            I appreciate the flagging Mark. Hazard is a player that is popular in FPL. With the way you do the flags, it helps me in knowing if there are any slight injury doubts of players in teams like Bournemouth and West Brom, which I don't pay as much attention to.

                            I see folk are angry about price changes, but that's the problem with the FPL HQ. I am a Chelsea fan and I do think he should be okay for the weekend, but flagging him is not incorrect since he did go off twice in the span of a week with knocks. It's up to the folk to look up on the internet after a player is flagged. As for the price changes, that's something that FPL deals with.

                          • Diva
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            It's good to see the explanation. One issue I can see with the approach of double sourcing the Opta report with a media report is: can the FPL be sure the media organization isn't pulling their information from the same Opta feed? If so, the news would only be single sourced, not double sourced.

                        2. Ruth_NZ
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 5 months ago

                          "I’ve still no idea how the flags work with price rises – we have never gone into that world and I don’t want to."

                          This whole thing doesn't bother me much but that sentence is a bit bewildering. Doesn't every semi-serious FPL manager know how flags affect price movements? I thought that was pretty basic knowledge. 😕

                          1. Eden Hazardous
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            I guess he means ISM control that , not FFS. Mark doesn't know the exact methodology.

                            1. J0E
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 14 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              that's what I take it to mean as well. We don't know the number crunching and exact details of how that works.

                              I don't think anyone really knows that level of detail except the makers of the game.

                        3. Scotty B
                          • 12 Years
                          7 years, 5 months ago

                          Pickford
                          Evans Vertonghen Pieters
                          Firmino Capoue Gundogan Coutinho
                          Ibrahimovic Lukaku Aguero

                          Heaton Antonio Clyne Amat

                          Good to go for this week?

                          1 FT & 0.0 ITB

                          1. Cato Fong 你好
                            • 7 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            Ibra suspended isn't he....

                            1. Scotty B
                              • 12 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Yeah I need a replacement for him.

                              Any ideas?

                              1. HamezMace
                                • 9 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                Kane

                              2. Cato Fong 你好
                                • 7 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                Costa or Kane would be the obvious ones imho!

                          2. LC1
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            Play Antonio instead of Capoue

                          3. Scotty B
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            Or should I consider keeping Zlatan as only being banned for 1 game and get rid of Antonio > Chadli?

                          4. shirtless
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            I also have the Zlatan problem.

                            Three options.. I either unload to fund Hazard, bench for Evans, or sell for Lukaku(c) but get him back for West Ham which is madness really!

                            I think I'm going the Lukaku route...

                            1. Scotty B
                              • 12 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Just wondering if it is wise to get rid for the sake of 1 week when he has them upcoming fixtures

                              1. shirtless
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 12 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                Lukaku 12 point game as captain is worth the transfers I think. It's whether I reinvest in Hazard or get him back that's the conundrum for me. Evans is pretty much a 6 point ceiling as my replacement.

                                And Lukaku scored at the weekend so is in good nick vs a poor Swansea.

                        4. Totti
                          • 7 Years
                          7 years, 5 months ago

                          who to bench next gameweek?
                          A) Allen
                          B) Austin
                          C) Gundogan

                          1. Cato Fong 你好
                            • 7 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            Too much of a conundrum.....maybe Allen.....maybe!

                            1. Totti
                              • 7 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              so, you're leaning towards allen 🙂

                          2. Scotty B
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 5 months ago

                            Gundogan out of those

                            1. Totti
                              • 7 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              so bench gundogan??

                          3. Worzel Gummidge
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Bench A Totti. Likely he is played deeper.

                              1. Totti
                                • 7 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                but stoke will play home against bournmouth and allen i think plays ACM
                                and also gundogan match will be against crystal palace who concedes too many goals lately 🙂
                                i'm leaning towards allen too 🙂
                                thanks for your reply 🙂

                            • IWR
                              • 8 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Tough one. Considering benching Austin for Allen myself.

                              1. Totti
                                • 7 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                but liverpool have high oppurtunity to concede as they got a single cleansheet this season against man u
                                and the match is away so they might concede and austin is highly candidate to score for southamopton

                            • Sherry? Sherry.
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              I would wait and see if Hughes gives an indication as to where Allen will play. Has been at 10 but injuries to squad may force him back. If he isn't at 10, I would play Gundogan.
                              Austin should definitely not be benched as he is an in-form striker, at home, playing against a defence that has been leaky.

                              1. Totti
                                • 7 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                this
                                but who are injuried in stoke to prompt hughes to play allen back?
                                cheers 😉
                                thanks for the reply 🙂

                                1. Worzel Gummidge
                                    7 years, 5 months ago

                                    Whelan injured and Hughes has been talking highly of Bojan. Natural change would be to drop Allen into double pivot.

                                    1. Totti
                                      • 7 Years
                                      7 years, 5 months ago

                                      ooopps 🙂
                                      this might lead me to sell him next game week

                              2. Forza Papac
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 8 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                One of those players takes pens for his team. Don't bench that player.

                            • Prikolica12
                              • 7 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Nyom good option?

                              1. Cato Fong 你好
                                • 7 Years
                                7 years, 5 months ago

                                Not nailed seemingly.....

                            • Eden Hazardous
                              • 9 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              The Cup Draw comes out today right?

                            • Scotty B
                              • 12 Years
                              7 years, 5 months ago

                              Best replacement for the God of Manchester?

                              1. Worzel Gummidge
                                  7 years, 5 months ago

                                  All you do is ask questions and the same questions.

                                  1. Scotty B
                                    • 12 Years
                                    7 years, 5 months ago

                                    Hence doe to the gap in gameweeks.

                                    All you do is sit on this site!

                                    Is this not a fantasy football chat forum to ask questions and express views? Apologies if I'm wrong

                                • The Fantastic Mr Fox
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 5 months ago

                                  Why not bench him then? Since u don't mind playing Capoue anyway

                                  1. Scotty B
                                    • 12 Years
                                    7 years, 5 months ago

                                    I don't particularly want to play Capoue more a case of no choice

                                    1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 years, 5 months ago

                                      Your lineup posted about didn't seem to suggest that.
                                      'good to go?' usually means ur fairly certain about it.

                                      My suggestion would be a short term punt on Giroud/Slimani with an eye on getting Ibra back for the better fixtures

                                • bojack
                                  • 7 Years
                                  7 years, 5 months ago

                                  Isn't the God of Manchester Mark E Smith?

                                  There's no replacement for his genius.