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Moving Target – Kevin Wimmer

Earlier this week, Stoke City made their seventh signing of the summer with the acquisition of centre-half Kevin Wimmer from Tottenham Hotspur for a reported £18m.

The Austrian international arrives at the bet365 Stadium on a five-year contract as manager Mark Hughes looks to strengthen his defence for the campaign ahead:

“Bringing Kevin here is a real coup in my view, because he is a hugely talented young player who will undoubtedly add further quality to the group. We have already brought Kurt (Zouma) into the Club and managed to get Bruno (Martins Indi) back on a permanent deal, which was important to us, and we have Ryan (Shawcross) here too. Obviously, this deal was with a view to the future because we know that Kurt is a Chelsea player, but Kevin is our player now and we knew that this deal wouldn’t have been available to us this time next year.”

Discussing his move with the club’s official website, the 24-year-old is desperate to cement a regular role after falling out of favour at Spurs:

“At every top Premier League football club there are groups of players in every position chasing those starting spots, and that is the case here, I know I will have to work hard and keep on improving to be successful…First and foremost I am here to help defend, but I am confident with the ball at my feet and I like to get the ball forward with accurate passes through the middle or up to the guys at the top end of the field.”

The History

A product of the youth system at Austrian outfit LASK Linz, Wimmer progressed through the reserves before making his senior debut in 2011/12.

Four goals and 28 league matches later, he was snapped up by then-German second division side FC Cologne in Aug 2012.

Wimmer produced two goals and a pair of assists in 35 league matches over the next two seasons, helping them clinch promotion to the Bundesliga ahead of the 2014/15 campaign. The centre-half featured 32 times that season and caught the eye of Spurs manager Mauricio Pochettino, who snapped him up in late May of 2015.

Yet Wimmer’s move to north London was more than a little underwhelming, with just 15 league appearances over his two seasons at the club.

On the international stage, he was handed a debut for Austria in 2013 and has since been selected on eight occasions.

The Prospects

Having fallen out of favour at Spurs, the switch to the Potteries allows Wimmer the chance to kick-start his career.

It now looks on the cards that Hughes is planning to keep faith in the 3-4-2-1 set-up utilised over the opening three rounds of fixtures.

Yet there’s still competition for places, with Kurt Zouma, Bruno Martins-Indi, skipper Ryan Shawcross and Geoff Cameron also vying for pitch time in the heart of defence.

With Zouma at 5.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) and Shawcross, Martins-Indi and Erik Pieters all costing 5.0, we’re hoping that Wimmer – who sets you back 4.4 in FPL (7.6 in Sky Sports) – can cement a spot and emerge as the cheapest nailed-on starter available for our five-man defences.

Yet in terms of minutes per Baseline Bonus Points System in 2016/17, his average of 12.3 minutes was well behind Zouma (3.7), Martins-Indi (6.0) and Shawcross (7.6).

You could argue, though, that this was in part to featuring alongside and Toby Alderweireld (5.2) and Jan Vertonghen (6.0) for Spurs.

Over the course of the previous two seasons, Wimmer has won a combined 60.7% of aerial duels and 66.7% of tackles.

Again, Zouma (71.1% and 84.4%) and Shawcross (64% and 74%) are better on both counts, and while Martins-Indi was superior for tackles (79.2%) in his first season at Stoke in 2016/17, he won just 48.3% of his headed duels. So far this term, he’s succeeded with 57.1%, which highlights an area of improvement for Hughes to consider.

Elsewhere, Hughes’ switch to a wing-back system could bring Cameron into the frame. Shifted from centre-half to right wing-back to accommodate Martins-Indi away to West Brom last weekend, the US international – at a price of just 4.5 – is clearly one to monitor if he can keep ahead of Mame Biram Diouf in the pecking order. The Senegalese was sidelined through injury for The Hawthorns visit.

In terms of goal threat, Wimmer has been less than impressive since arriving at Spurs. Having managed just a single attempt on goal in 1,168 minutes over the last two seasons, it’s likely that even if he nails down a starting role, you’ll be hard pushed to earn attacking returns from the Austrian.

Ultimately, if you are looking for goals from the Potters’ backline, Shawcross remains the best bet if you’re willing to splash out more – he registered 20 efforts in the box last year. Zouma’s four shots against West Brom show promise but few will be prepared to fork out a premium price for a Stoke defender.

While a clean sheet at home to Arsenal in Gameweek 2 is encouraging, clashes against Man United, Chelsea and Man City in the next five rounds of fixtures is enough of a deterrent for now until the schedule turns from Gameweek 9.

Further Reference

Kevin Wimmer Wikipedia

Kevin Wimmer TransferMarkt Page

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1,267 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know why the head to head leagues aren't working in FPL?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Link?

  2. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Is trippier injured? He's flagged again?

    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Sent back to Spurs from England camp.

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Time to shift? Who to if so?

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Depends on if you want to save or spend! Not sure who the best for 5.4 is. Could go to Jones at 5.1?

          1. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Possibly! But then he might get dropped/injured as evee

        2. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Along with Aurier news it might be.

  3. EmreCan Hustle
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Arsenal being bullied in the transfer market. The only think Wenger was still good at. Buying good players for modest amounts.

    Lemar might well be worth the outlay but Sanchez should be 80m at least.

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Sanchez should be 100! But they stupidly let his contract run right to 1 year!

      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        That's the problem.

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      How is a player with 10 months left on his contract going to cost 80m?

      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        If Lemar is worth 92M then yes.

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Football doesn't work like that. Sanchez costs nothing but a sign on fee next summer.

      2. KingNidge
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Oxlade Chamberlain was in the last year of his contract and went for 40 and he's shite mate

        Mad world we're living in

  4. Greenbackbøøg…
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Guys you do know that Renato Sanches has 6 goals and 6 assists in 103 career appearances right? just because he has a fancy name doesn't mean he's gonna score

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      And 3 of those goals are for Benfica's B team

    2. VS10_
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      People are a bit clueless here about foreign players. 🙂

    3. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      True that. But at a price of 5m, he might be worth a shout depending on where Clement plays him. If he's up field, then he challenges Atsu at that price.

      1. Greenbackbøøg…
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I'd much prefer Atsu as long as he's nailed, we'll see

    4. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      People think he is a attacking mid.

    5. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Yep! Great DM, poor FPL asset

    6. thepeen555
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      if they want to sign him for 5m let them lol

    7. Nascimento
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Because he's a household name.

  5. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    BREAKING: Arsenal and Monaco have agreed a €100m deal for Thomas Lemar. Now it's down to the player. (Source: Telegraph)

    1. L'Aeroplanino
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      madness

    2. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      They will buy Lemar for about 90m pounds but will sell Sanchez for 60m?! Surely crazy times...

      1. Nascimento
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        That would actually be great business imo

        1. KGFC
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          How so? Lemar better than Sanchez?

  6. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    A Bailly & Lacazette
    Or
    B Jones & Lukaku

  7. EmreCan Hustle
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Imagine Arsenal sign Lemar and keep Alexis 😯

    1. How Mina You
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      We won't keep Alexis if we sign Lemar. It'll still be egg on Wenger's face since he said that we'll keep Sanchez at all costs. But excited about the prospect of Lemar joining us if he does decide to make the move.

      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Same here. He is just as good as Dembele and Mbappe IMO.

    2. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      nah not happening

  8. FPLAdmiral
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC chaps?

    Foster
    Cedric, Alonso, B.Davies
    Mkhi, Pogba, Salah, Eriksen, Mooy
    Lukaku, Firmino

    (Elliot)(Abraham, Mbemba, Rosenior)

  9. Drum8888
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    BREAKING: Harry Kane gets annual August only contract to Arsenal

    1. thepeen555
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      thats sorted then

    2. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      😀

  10. thepeen555
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    If Sanchez joins City - are people transferring him to keep as 'arsenal' so they can still keep city players? just crossed my mind if people do it?

    i would need to wait and see how much time he and the others get first

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      What nutcase it picking 4 Man City players?

    2. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I think he will become one of the most nailed on city players. I can see him becoming a hot pick esp for people on WC now and also as a city coverage.

    3. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      you would be down to 3 City players as soon as a transfer is made.

  11. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Arsenal are bidding around 30mil more than they bid a few weeks ago for Lemar when Wenger thought the deal was dead.

  12. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    How does the below look as a potential WC team?

    Foster
    Cedric Naughton Bailly Alonso
    Salah Pogba Eriksen
    Lacazette Morata Firmino

    Elliot Carroll RLC Mbemba

    0.2 left ITB

  13. TheBusDriver
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    How will City lineup if they get Sanchez?

    Don't think Sanchez, Aguero and Jesus can play together.

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Jesus pushed wide with Sanchez false 9

    2. Turbolag
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      It can work. Aguero as the lone striker, Jesus on the right wing, Alexis on the left wing, KDB as the 10.

      1. Bobby_Baggio
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        What a line up though!

      2. Podorsky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        ...and David Dilva?

        1. Make Arrows Green Again
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Barming the bench

    3. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Well its easier to win a lottery than to predict Pep's juggling. But he may well play all three with Aguero leading the line and Jesus and Sanchez out wide. Or if Jesus leads the line, I think Sanchez can be play as #10 with Aguero on bench to rotate with Jesus. Either ways, Sanchez's move will just increase the rotation among the city attacking mids making them less FPL worthy.

  14. How Mina You
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Lemar would surely be priced at least 9.5 - 10 if he does move

    1. How Mina You
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      priced at 9.5 - 10 at the very least*

    2. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Yes,the pricetag will play a part there. 9 mil imo.

    3. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Given he's scored just 14 goals in 64 appearances for Monaco his FPL value should be somewhere around 8-8.5m

      Anything above that and he's simply not worth it....like spending 10m on Kevin 'Nicky Butt' De Bruyne.

      1. KingNidge
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Kevin 'Nicky Butt' De Bruyne.

        Hahaha

      2. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        But harsh on Nicky Butt

        1. J0E
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Never captain Nicky Butt used to be the key slogan back when I started playing FPL.

          Now its never own Kevin De Bruyne 😉

    1. TheBusDriver
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I mean 😀

    2. Make Arrows Green Again
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Oh that is so sad 🙁

  15. TheBusDriver
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Lemar isn't really that good.

  16. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    @mattspiro 1m1 minute ago

    Monaco accept #Arsenal's £90m bid for Thomas Lemar. However am told player would rather join #Liverpool

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Seems like whoever signs him will sell their player (Coutinho/Alexis). LFC last bid was 80mEuros plus Origi on loan, who has now gone to Wolfsburg.

      1. Greenbackbøøg…
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I'd rather Arsenal seal this one tbh

    2. TheBusDriver
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Fake news. Only an idiot would choose Liverpool over London.

    3. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Wouldn't want to match that.

      Focus on VVD, the rest will suffice.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Coutinho doesn't want to play for us and Klopp doesn't want to build bridges, there's no point keeping him atm.

    4. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Great start to his Ars career ... if he goes

  17. How Mina You
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Keeping Sanchez and adding Lemar suddenly makes our attack seem lethal... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6O2ncUKvlg

    1. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      They won't bid 92 mil if Sanchez was to stay.

    2. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      And the defence still shambolic

      1. How Mina You
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah 🙁

  18. Forza Juventus
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Renato Sanches at 5.0 is pretty nice. Gives him a chance of potentially being a useful fantasy option considering that budget price tag. We are yet to see if he delivers many goals or assists, but one to watch at the very least.

    1. C_G
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      lol a DM, not sure why everyone is so thrilled with him being an FPL option

      1. DoobNoob
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        hes not a DM

  19. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    In todays market Heskey will be worth atleast 50m ?

    (ps im not even joking 😉 )

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      He was very good

  20. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Spurs have entered into negotiations with Barcelona to sign Andre Gomes. [Sky Sports]

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      average player

    2. TheBusDriver
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Honestly, he's one of the worst players I've ever seen.

    3. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Overrated

  21. The 12th Man
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Froome old be loosing the red jersey here. 2 crashes for him today.

  22. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    So Arsenal are trying to buy a player that prefers to join another club, in order to replace a player they want to keep, who also wants to join another club. Tough times

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      And Draxler another player they want to sign.. I think you know the drill

    2. Sylas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Did the player tell you himself? All you're good at is copy+paste!

      1. Nascimento
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Internal Error sources understand...

      2. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        touchy.

  23. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    I'm told that Monaco and Arsenal have agreed a fee for Lemar but that it's now down to the player to decide if he will go #AFC

    1. TheBusDriver
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Who told you?

  24. C_G
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    need help with my team please, got 1 FT, and 0.3 ITB

    Foster Elliot

    Danilo Cedric Fosu Mensah Lowe Mariappa

    Pogba Mane Eriksen Atsu Carroll

    Kane Lukaku Chicha

    thx

    1. C_G
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      should i WC?

  25. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    @WHUFC_News 35s36 seconds ago

    Darren Randolph: "It was a race between me and Adrian to see who could get out of the door first."

    1. Nascimento
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      😆

    2. TheBusDriver
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      lol

  26. Make United Great Again
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Arsenal are a complete joke. But we all know this.

    Waiting until deadline day to solve the Sanchez issue.

    Now paying over the odds for a player that solves none of their issues. Amazing.

    1. Nascimento
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Man Utd fan talking about a club paying over the odds for a player 😆

  27. Which deadline day players are good FPL prospects?
    J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    So many expensive transfer moves taking place or rumoured to be taking place - none appear to be good FPL assets though, despite their real life price tags.

    Lemar 14 goals in 64 matches looks an okish mid at best for example.

    Also some of the loan deals are a bit meh - Sanches at Swansea for example. Yes, he's 5.0 but for a defensive midfielder at a mid table side that is hardly hang out the bunting time.

    Anyone spotted a good transfer day acquisition who could be a good FPL asset?

    1. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Sanchez to Man City will be the only one.

    2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      If anything they seem to be causing problems - Aurier and Trippier, Sanches taking mins from Carroll to name a couple

    3. Conrad.
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      maybe Aurier? he's got the most potential, but that's not saying much, considering the rest of the candidates.

    4. The Road to Turfdom
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Obviously lots of hypotheticals here, but 14 goals and 14 assists in 64 appearances for a 21 year old playing in an attacking top (contestable) team definitely has potential to be more than 'okish'

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        8-8.5 would be a realistic price - also given he's new to the Premier League and plays in a Wenger team 😉

        He has potential perhaps in his career but immediately he sounds just ok ish with that track record - certainly nowhere hear 9-9.5 level - which is rightly for the likes of Mane or Alli.

        1. The Road to Turfdom
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah I agree with that, Jonty 🙂

    5. VS10_
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lemar has a great left foot and would rack up assists from set pieces and open play.

    6. Get up ya bum
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      14g 17a 55 games 1 season

    7. Creampayet
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Cant remember if he signed today or yesterday but any love for Gibbs? Presuming he's nailed and could get forward a alot or is dawson a better prospect due to his goals ?

    8. Biancazzurri
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Sanches was a good fantasy prospect at the Euros. One of the most attacking Portuguese players and he picked points. Maybe his role was more advanced, but then again, who's to say it won't be so at Swansea?

    9. Trading Bear
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Sanches has been bought in to play the all-action hero role vacated by Siggy. I expect him to be involved in the majority of play.

      ...and if he is restricted to a DM role, than that would only push Fer/Carroll further up the pitch. It's a win-win battle, just maybe have to wait a couple of games to see everyones roles.

      1. Trading Bear
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        ah, also meant to add Bony is now an extremely viable option.

  28. DoobNoob
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    5m for sanches is good value in the fantasy game surely...?

    1. Boom Xhaka-Laca
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Depends if where he plays (DM, CM)

  29. Boom Xhaka-Laca
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    This would be a nice WC, thoughts?

    Elliot (Woodman)
    Alonso Bailly Bert Hegazi (Naughton)
    Erik Pogba Sanchez (RLC Chalobah)
    Kaku Tammy Firmino