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16 January 2011 1946 comments
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Four games kicking off. Three Derby’s taking place up and down the country. Two of them at the nice early hour of Noon GMT. While one so far invincible side finish the gameweek off with one of their new pretenders to the throne looking to make a statement of intent.

We’ve got it all today; and we’re starting with Birmingham vs. Aston Villa and Sunderland vs. Newcastle with the Dugout Discussion already opening its doors for one and all looking for their Sunday fix…

Sunderland XI: Gordon; Onuoha, Bramble, Ferdinand, Bardsley; Elmohamady, Henderson, Richardson, Malbranque; Gyan, Bent.

Newcastle XI: Harper; Simpson, Coloccini, Williamson, Jose Enrique; Barton, Nolan, Smith, Gutierrez; Best, Ameobi.

Sunderland welcome Nedum Onuoha back into the fray but must still see captain Lee Cattermole and Danny Welbeck on the injury list and unable to make their appearances. Newcastle may have to make do without star striker Andy Carroll this weekend but Shola Ameobi is fit enough to return to the fore and pushing Peter Lovenkrands back to the bench, Jose Enrique also recovers from the flu which previously had him on the sidelines.

Birmingham XI: Foster; Carr, Johnson, Ridgewell, Murphy; Bentley, Ferguson, Gardner, Fahey; Hleb: Derbyshire.

Aston Villa: Friedel, Clark, Dunne, Collins, Walker, Albrighton, Petrov, Reo-Coker, Downing, Carew, Agbonlahor.

Birmingham make a handful of changes as Daryl Murphy comes in for the injured Scott Dann, David Bentley makes his Blues debut with Seb Larsson, rumoured to be joining Newcastle imminently, nowhere to be seen. Matt Derbyshire is rewarded with a role leading the line in place of Cameron Jerome following his FA Cup exploits. Aston Villa meanwhile give a league debut to [potential Fantasy Premier League £4.0m bargain] Kyle Walker as well as calling Marc Albrighton and John Carew into the side once more while Ashley Young sits out suspended.

Only thing left is to wipe the sleep away from our eyes and take in six straight hours of Premier League action.

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  1. Jinswick
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    So now i only hve 5 DGW players next week - essential to bring in another? And what about point hits for more?

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    1. SuperDorrans
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      Depends who. If you already have Nani, Rooney, Torres, N'Zog & Adam it isn't exactly essential to get in a Fulham defender for the sake of it.

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      completey depends on the rest of your team and who you would replace. for example in pre-rafael-ite times (about an hour ago) i had 8 doubles but didn't want anymore as it would mean benching nasri, fabs (both home to wigan) or tevez (on the pitch) so wasn't worth it imo.

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    3. Art Vandelay
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      Same position as me. Damn Rafael.

      I can't afford another Man U defender so am looking at Kelly as an option. I would be prepared to take a hit to bring in two, but I would have to sell a core player to make a difference so I am unlikely to do so.

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  2. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    was someone injured today that kyrgiakos came on?

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    1. Gargamel
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Dalglish reported Illness as the reason for the sub

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      1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
        • 16 Years
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        hmm, i wonder what that was. i have kyrg, might play him this wee now

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    2. jamsiep
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      Agger was apparently ill...

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  3. john29
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    Anyone else stupid enough to bench vidic for skrtel?

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    1. Hated, Adored but never Ign…
      • 16 Years
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      Benching Vidic was not stupid.

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        yeah i don't think anyone would've bet on this being 0-0.

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      2. Hank van Tek
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        Seeing as United are unbeaten this season and have conceded the fewest goals - yes, it was.

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        1. jamsiep
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          Nonsense.

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
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            +1

            Before this weekend (i.e when you were actually making the choice) Citeh has conceded less

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    2. viciousrumour
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      hahahahaha

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  4. Torres76
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Best front three for next week?

    1. Tevez, RVP, Berba/Roons

    2. Tevez, RVP, Torres

    3. Torres,RVP, Berba /Roons

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    1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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      tevez, rp, dj

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  5. Safety First
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Not sure if I'm missing something but R Johnson has had 5 yellows. Why has he not been suspended for a game - or will it be a future fixture?

    (Or does Santa wipe them out at Christmas and he's started 2011 on a clean slate?)

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    1. BoobyZ
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      The one in brackets. Not wiped out tho - next target is 10 yellows

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      1. Safety First
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks buddy. That was bugging me as I'd noticed him been dropped from a few team and wondered whether he'd be sitting out any games.

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        1. Safety First
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          *he'd and *teamS

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  6. Nibbsy
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone know the likely return date for Schwarzer? What date is the Asian Cup final and are Australia likely to get that far?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      29th Jan for Final. Who knows....

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      1. Nibbsy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers. They must be one of the better teams in it I guess.

        Wondering whether to get Stockdale or Al-Habsi. Would prefer Stockdale but only if he has a double.

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        1. Nibbsy
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          14 years, 11 months ago

          Just looked it up. Looks like Australia will qualify from their group and play Iraq in the quarters, then probably Jordan or Qatar. If they win that then they will at least play in the 3rd/4th play off on the 28th Jan so Aussie players would be back GW25 earliest with not much time to recover.

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  7. Trilogist
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    is neville deffo gonna fill in for rafa whilst suspended?

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      only 1 game, mind. so its not worth it as both rafael and his replacement wouldn't actually have a dgw. best to look at only vidic or evra (i think ferdinand could be rested one of the games)

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  8. tristanabc
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Hi everyone...here is my team at the moment...

    Foster Al-habsi
    Bardsley Coleman Rafael Djourou Hangeland
    N'zogbia Adam Fabregas VDV Nani
    Berbatov Tevez RVP

    For this coming gameweek I'm thinking:
    Tevez < Torres

    Thoughts please?

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Rafael is suspended!

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        irrelevant

        He's still gonna play 1 game isn't he?

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      2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        i think he should be ok with hangeland, coleman and djourou though.

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    2. Binman_UK
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      not a chance. keep tevez.

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    3. Cashnex
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      You'd be mental to bring Torres in, mate. I got him after the Chelsea win and have kept faith, but he's done bugger all. Wish I'd stuck with Tevez.

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      1. dierstraights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        i already have torres and if i didnt have him there is no way id get him. i'm even thinking of dropping torres but prob wont only because of dbl gw but im not expecting anything from him

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    4. Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      is that really your team? my wildcard is only two players different... and they are hangeland and al-habsi whom i am considering for kolarov and stockdale

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  9. Viper
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Any word on the incident outside Anfield? I haven't seen or heard anything apart from what Jamsiep said, any other news? Hopefully its BS..

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    1. King Nemanja
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?p=4850101

      Looks like its not just on twitter. Hopefully it is only rumours.

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      1. Viper
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks, There was definately an announcement made that anfield road was closed due to a police incident.. Hopefully it's not true but nothing concrete been said yet..

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      2. TommyK
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Would be very sad if true- I thought the game had moved on in this country........

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    2. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Havent come up with anything yet, hopefully its BS

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  10. H Dog
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Torres, can you give me a quick guess as to whether 38 will be enough?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Probably not but very close. Wait for your history to be updated. The answer will be in front of you.

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  11. AMZ
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Predictions for the average?

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    1. Viper
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      40-45..?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        38-40 for average.

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      2. AMZ
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah maybe. I got 51 so hopefully I'll get a green arrow. Not a great week for me. Should have captained Tevez 🙁

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        1. Viper
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          I did captain tevez but still only got 52!

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    2. Berbatov 9
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Higher than you score Eoin. That is all

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      1. AMZ
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        You played wildcard.

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  12. NorthernLoveClarkeX
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Lamps - Dempsey for DGW?

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    1. Fancy Feet
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      madness

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      1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        nothing madness about that. dont liten to him

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  13. chilin_dude
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Is torres suspended for next week?

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    1. gooner dave
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      no

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    2. Cashnex
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Nope

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  14. RD
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Hey Tm...wht would be the likely Cut off score for millionare club 2nyt??

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Wait & see. I'll be at work so you will probably know before me.

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  15. AP
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Never a sending off. Disgracefull refing. The fa is against us. Etc etc etc.

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    1. gooner dave
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      aye was a bit harsh.

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    2. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      +1

      Other than the fact that it should have been a red...

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      1. AP
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Arse meets elbow, hi!

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    3. ToonTom
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      Hate to disagree mate...but I do!

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    4. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      the first one was a great BLOCK imo. it wasn't even a tackle and i think the ref should realise that and as it was a block was never going to be dangerous, although to be fair i only realised that after a slow mo replay

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Don't be silly.. He flew in with his foot about a metre above the ground.

        As for the second, even if the contact wasn't intentional it was still a yellow card offence.

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
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          where was the ball palacios passed? about a metre off the ground. it was an insanely well read block imo

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      2. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        First one was a clear yellow, you're not allowed to fly in like that with the studs up.

        Second one bit harsh, but they're given every now and then.

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  16. SuperDorrans
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Worth keeping Rafael if wildcarding?

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      probably worth going rio. that brum game looks like a cs for utd.

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      1. Spoiler
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        maybe rio might be rested for one of the games?

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        1. pieces
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Looked like he was struggling in the last few minutes as well - could have been cramp tho

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    2. pieces
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I think so, still a decent cheap way to get united defense. He will still play 1 of the dgw in 24 and united still have a dgw in 28. He will remain in my WC team.

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  17. Elts
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Hi ALL, I would welcome some advice on my team for the next GWK .. after only getting 38 pts this week I need some help!

    Foster (Carson)
    Vidic, Baines, Bardsley (Foley, Williamson)
    VDV, Fabs, Adam, Nani (c), Dempsey
    Berbs, Torres (Carroll)

    Appreciated in advance ..

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    1. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Team looks fine. I'd just do Carson - DGW keeper so you don't have to play Foster away to United and possibly Foley - Fulham def if you can afford it (play them instead of Bardsley).

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      1. Elts
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Much appreciated

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  18. Trilogist
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    is flappyhandski back for next GW?

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    1. Viper
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      More than likely if he was only a fitness test away from starting this week..

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  19. Berbatov 9
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Quick one, how many players would you want playing the double next week realistically? Is nani enough cover for United?

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    1. Elts
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Heard someone earlier who said they have 11 !! I have 6 in total and am keeping my 3 Man U players (team is a couple of posts above)

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      1. AMZ
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        14 years, 11 months ago

        No.

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        1. Berbatov 9
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks for that, i've 6 as well, no united striker either, RVP and Tevez and DJ

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      2. kroky
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        i could play eleven dgwers if i wanted but dropping vdv isnt an option

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  20. Somalion
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Who would you prefer to have, Fabs and RVP or Walcott, Nasri and RVP?

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    1. Elts
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      For me, Fabs and RVP

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      1. Churchill
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        +1.

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        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
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          Sorted so 😛

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  21. 5678
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Any chance of the Rafael red getting overturned? 🙁

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      1. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Nope, you can't appeal against 2 yellows.

        Which is of course completely absurd, but that's another thing.

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        1. 5678
            14 years, 11 months ago

            Damn. Really wanted him for the DGW...

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      2. Nibbsy
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        14 years, 11 months ago

        Should I wildcard to sort out this defence?

        Foster Carson
        Huth Coleman Kolarov KONCHESKY RAFAEL

        I've got 2 frees but also need to do Drogba - DGW Forward.

        Was going to just do Carson - DGW Keeper and Konch - DGW Def for a 4pt hit but now also want to do Rafael - Evra.

        Should I take an 8pt hit or just play Huth or Rafael?

        Or WC and lose my 2 frees.

        Team is linked if it helps.

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        1. Pablitto
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          kolarov isnt bring points 🙁 so try anotherone maybe

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          1. Nibbsy
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            14 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah he'll be out in the wildcard.

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      3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        urgh, red arrow for me

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        1. jamsiep
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          14 years, 11 months ago

          Bleurgh, relative big one for me too....

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
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            Mines not too bad, down from 42k to 48k but annoying nevertheless!

            You WCing this week?

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          2. applebonkers
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            doog thing you didn't just do yaya for n'zogbia. you would have had 1bp to show for your gw 😆

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            1. applebonkers
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              • 16 Years
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              doog? jesus i'm not even drunk

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              1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                • 16 Years
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                but apparently dyslexic? 🙂

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                1. applebonkers
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                  • 16 Years
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                  looks like it. drogba = dorgba, tevez = teevz, from = form. the problem with being a slow typer trying to type fast

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      4. thehodge
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        14 years, 11 months ago

        A really small Green arrow thanks to todays results!

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      5. Freshy
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Never shipped anyone after they got a goal but I think I'm dumping KToure.
        Anybody impressed enough to pick up a TOTTS defender?

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      6. cucumber
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Hope this "incident" from the liverpool-everton game today is complete rubbish..
        for everyone's sake..

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      7. BoobyZ
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        wtf average score 47!! Up from 30 something - who did people have???

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        1. PFOR
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          United defenders very popular. Nolan also.

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          1. BoobyZ
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            I assumed most benched utd defenders

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        2. Pablitto
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          magictevez or magicRVP 🙂

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      8. Manky Yanc
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Oops - wrong page !!

        Having another shite week is quite annoying – but getting knocked out of the last 64 by a shite team is even more annoying!!

        How many people hate/love this game ??!!

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      9. mvtaylor
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Fattest Red Arrow ever...

        dropped from 112k to 232k...

        Really. Don't. Want. To. Wildcard.

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      10. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Vidic on the bench! Life sucks!

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