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16 July 2011 1632 comments
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Liverpool have completed their fourth signing of the summer with the £20m capture of Stewart Downing from Aston Villa on a long-term deal. Having had a £15m bid for the winger knocked back last week, Kenny Dalglish wasted little time in returning with an improved offer and with Villa giving the club permission to speak to the player on Thursday, the deal reached a speedy conclusion, following weeks of media speculation.

Downing joins Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Alexander Doni in arriving at the club this last few weeks and continues the major rebuilding process undertaken since Dalglish replaced Roy Hodgson back in January. Liverpool’s Director of Football, Damien Comolli, shared his thoughts on the transfer:

“We needed that pace and wide player that can bring us something extra, which we did not have in the squad. He has the right mentality, the right attitude and was absolutely committed to coming to us, so we are delighted.

He is a big, big signing for us. When we have Andy up front, he can put those balls in, but also he’s got more than that. We look thoroughly into data and statistics before signing players and we really think we are bringing a big, big asset into our team.”

Downing also spoke to the club’s official website upon completion of the transfer:

“It’s a great feeling and I’m very happy to be here. With the tradition, the manager and the players they have here, there was a big temptation to come here and once I knew of their interest, there was only one place I wanted to go.

‘It will be a great feeling to run out at Anfield. When I wanted to come to Liverpool, it was the first thing I thought of – playing at Anfield in front of those great fans. I’m really looking forward to it.”

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A graduate of Middlesboro’s Academy, Downing debuted for his hometown club back in April 2002, though a failure to establish himself in the first-team meant he played just six games in his first two seasons. Loaned out to Sunderland in 2003-04, he made 7 appearances and scored 3 goals before injuries at the Riverside saw him recalled.

Resultantly given a run of games to nail down a starting place, Downing grabbed his opportunity and became a regular starter for Boro, staying with the club until the end of a doomed 2008/09 season that saw them relegated to the Championship. In total, he played 171 league matches for Middlesboro, scoring 17 goals and making 17 assists.

Snapped up by Martin O’Neill for Aston Villa in the summer of 2009, Downing, upon recovering from a broken foot, proved to be a key player for the Midlands outfit. Over the past two campaigns the winger has played 63 league games, scoring 9 and assisting 9 goals, with last season’s returns of 7 goals and 3 assists indicative of his growing influence on the side. He’s also played 22 times for England, picking up 3 assists.

The Prospects

The addition merely adds to the currently congested midfield but, as the weeks progress, departures are likely to start filtering out of Anfield and a clearer picture will emerge of Dalglish’s intentions.

Joe Cole and Milan Jovanovic seem certain to leave and with Raul Meireles and Maxi Rodriguez both linked with moves away from Liverpool, Downing’s prospects as a first-team option perhaps look greater than both fellow new-boys Charlie Adam and Jordan Henderson, with less competition for a left wing role than in the centre and wide right.

Another factor here is that Downing’s arrival brings yet another set-piece taker to Liverpool; Henderson was number one for Sunderland corners, Adam took, well, everything for Blackpool and Downing shared corner kicks with Ashley Young. Downing took 93 corners last season but, with Steven Gerrard also added to the mix, he’s likely to lose that part of his game.

Downing’s crossing will bring a crucial extra element to Liverpool’s play, however, which may help the club bring the best out in Andy Carroll. Last season, Downing made 51 successful crosses, third best in the league behind Leighton Baines and Nani. With just 15, Raul Meireles was best Liverpool midfielder, a clear indication of the side’s inefficiency from the flanks.

This lack of quality aerial supply meant Carroll’s effectiveness in the air suffered; he won 62% of aerial duels at Newcastle but just 46% at Liverpool. For as much as Downing’s delivery has been talked about as the key to Carroll’s effectiveness, in terms of Fantasy perspective, Carroll may prove the answer to unlocking Downing’s potential; Downing made a total of 243 crosses last season and picked up just 3 assists- Carroll’s ability to turn those crosses into goals could considerably boost Downing’s assists and propel him into our Fantasy thinking as Dalglish looks for a top-four finish this time round.

The knock-on effect at Villa Park brings Marc Albrighton further into the picture, with the youngster currently Villa‘s only first-team right winger. New boss Alex McLeish must move to strengthen his options on both flanks, though, and has been strongly linked with Wigan’s Charles N’Zogbia. The Frenchman is likely to play on the left, though Gabby Agbonlahor’s adaptability may influence Big Eck’s thinking here. Set-pieces are also up for grabs, with the club now bereft of their two main takers from last season and N’Zogbia would be nailed-on favourite if he makes the move to the Midlands.

McLeish is notoriously defensive-minded and much will depend on his favoured formation. Last season he fielded a 4-4-2 on twenty occasions but Birmingham’s other eighteen games saw them play with just one forward up top. Five in the midfield could even bring forgotten man Stephen Ireland into the equation, with the player positive of his chances of becoming a key member of the Villa side under the new regime.

Further Reference

Stewart Downing Wikipedia

Stewart Downing Stats

Stewart Downing Goals and Assists 2010/11

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  1. In Like Flynn.
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    We've got Lua Lua, Haha Haha. Look out Championship.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Brighton Rocks ... 😉

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Morning Doosra 🙂 My daughter has apprenticeship with the Albion. 🙂 big proud smile. masking celebration hangover.

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        1. Damo.
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          Congrats man.

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            Many thanks all. I've emailed your link to her 🙂 Doosra it'll make her smile.

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        2. iCon
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          Pride in your kids, is there anything better?

          Enjoy it MrILF!

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  2. In Like Flynn.
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    http://bandsintransit.com/artists/view/19/Ed-Sheeran/

    Have you seen any of this Doosra? I don't know how long The Great Escape Festival lasts though.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      No ... why? 🙂

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        I didn't know if it was your sort of stuff. I'm not a big music fan, but I know Brighton always has tons happening and feel slightly guilty I don't go to more of it.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Well ... I don't think you're missing much here ... 😀

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            I suppose I'll have to go to the pub instead. 😛

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  3. In Like Flynn.
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    Did FFS go off? I couldn't get on for about an hour.

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    1. Boom!!!
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      yep...

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Thanks Boom, I got my hopes up,thinking it was a sign 🙁

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  4. In Like Flynn.
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    Morning Anyone, just about to browse through all my teams again. I still can't quite get my head round the option to put seven or eight players from one team in the Mail teams,I haven't got past four yet. Anyone else have a similar mental block like that?

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      Yeah, I think I automatically revert back to just 3, subconciously.

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    2. Nomar
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      Guilty conscience have we?

      That will teach you for your adulterous ways with an inferior mistress!

      Daily Mail fantasy game indeed!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        😆 So true, this! 🙂

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      2. In Like Flynn.
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        You have a point chaps, but then Barclay's past doesn't do with too much delving into. 😉

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Agree - particularly in South Africa ...

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            And Robert Mugabe, but enough of that, I still have to get my mind set on at least one team to have five or six from two or three teams. I'm a bit angry that I can be so conditioned. 🙂

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              Is there a russian called Pavlov anywhere near? 😉

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              1. Jafalad
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                Don't know but there is a desert called pavlova invented in Godsown 😀

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  😛 Dessert!!! 😉

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                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                    Otherwise it's called Rangipo ... 😉

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                  2. Jafalad
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                    That as well 😉

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  5. In Like Flynn.
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    Finally settled on our Texaco mini-league name "Brighton Rocks"

    Thanks Doosra. League is 566

    I will put Metro and Mail Mini-League numbers up in about an hour, Five of each all with a winner's prize (wether you want it or not 🙂 )

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Hah! Whether the weather is changeable or no - you are a constant ... 😉

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        😳 Heigh-Ho

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    2. Jordan.
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      brighton rock ...good old track from Queen on album sheer heart attack ,worth a listen if you dont know it.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        It came out in my hayday. 🙂

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Hey! 😉 What about this -

          http://www.brightonrockmovie.com/

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  6. In Like Flynn.
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    Tock Tick Ticker! Many thanks Doosra. 🙂 🙂

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    1. Demí
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      +42 Love it 😀

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        It's a pleasure, guys ... glad to have finished it!

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  7. In Like Flynn.
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    Fe Fi Fo Fum! I sense the fevered brows of Scouts and FPL Towers pixies, beevering away making ready the final touches of momentous import announcement.

    We've been stuck with Stewart Downing for twenty eight hours and interesting as he is.......... No preseason updates, nuffink.

    Surely it must be soon now?

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    1. iCon
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      Well it is Soonday today 😉

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    2. Sasquatch
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      Funny... I was just thinking that it seems like they are deliberately holding off on a new article... Nah, I'm clutching at straws!

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        That's my straw. 🙂

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        1. Sasquatch
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          Okay, I'll find me own then 😥

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            OK you can share it.

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            1. Sasquatch
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              Thanks 😀

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    3. FPL Daniel
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      it could be

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    4. big oak
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      or theyr enjoying sunday...

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    Sorry CW, League names in above now. 🙂

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  9. applebonkers
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    wake up, click on FFS and see if you know what is open yet. what's the point waking up! 😉

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      Then all disappointed making your self a coffee and thinking OK maybe when I will come back and finish my coffee it will be open, then its not open again and what was the point of making the coffee 🙂 🙂

      Just kidding but that could be easily the logic,

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      1. applebonkers
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        haha. there's never a point in coffee

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          There is when it's delicious, as mine is ... 😉

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          1. AP
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            The empire wasn't built on coffee MMW. Tea, huzzah huzzah huzzah.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              I am deeply fond of both. We use only loose leaf tea, Ceylon, Darjeeling & Earl Grey. 🙂

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            2. FPL Daniel
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              Coffee, tea that is old news, come one join us below we are drinking beer.

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  10. applebonkers
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    CHELSEA:
    --------------- turnbull ----------------
    ferreira -- ivanovic --- kalac ----- cole
    ---------------- mikel ------------------
    ---------- clifford -- zhirkov ----------
    - sturridge ------------------- malouda -
    ---------------- torres -----------------

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    1. AP
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      Boooooo 🙂

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      1. applebonkers
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        watching it with a chelsea fan so will be booing with you

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  11. applebonkers
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    is alex in the brazil squad at the moment?

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      No

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    2. Anorak
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      Nope.
      46 league starts in 3 seasons at Chelsea too. Injuries aside, he must be getting irritated by now?

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      1. applebonkers
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        not even on the 100 man bench today. injury or impending transfer i wonder

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          Injury - undoubtedly.

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    torres should claim that. hilarious own goal be diego ben haim

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      *by

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  13. applebonkers
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    anyone watching the chelsea game. the replay of terry kicking varney, a standing varney, in the head wasn't pretty

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    1. Dave Bauer
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      So out of character for such a nice chap and wonderful footballer.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        I'm going to need rust remover with all this iron(y) about ...

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        1. 4vets
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          Ouch!

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    2. Holy See
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      Used to be such a gentle soul too..

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  14. applebonkers
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1375998/PREMIER-LEAGUE-NEW-KIT-SPECIAL-The-strips-2011-12.html
    personal top 3:
    newcastle orange (any type of diagonal stripe on a kit is genius)
    tottenham black
    arsenal away

    worst 3:
    bolton home
    man utd blue and black
    blackburn yellow


    p.s elokobi in the bottom pic 😆 beast

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    1. Shakey
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      Annoyingly, United and Sp*rs have the nicest home kits.

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      1. applebonkers
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        a fan of the classic more 'plain' kit? i though man city's home kit (modelled by liam gallagher?????) was quite nice for those reasons.

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        1. Shakey
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          Not necessarily, I just think the less plain efforts this year aren't too nice. Chelsea's kits normally look good (I liked their dark blue away kit from a couple of seasons ago), but this time I think all three are pretty bad.

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      Don't mind the Utd kit, the Venky's sponsor on the Blackburn kit looks so fecking cheap though.
      Not mad about our away shirt either.

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    3. gooner dave
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      Not a fan of the evertons "camo" keeper shirt then?

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        haha it's very marmite.

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          Like it.

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          1. ManofKent
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            +1

            I'm surprised no one has gone for a kit with a 'net' print across it to really confuse the strikers 🙂

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              😯 +42 😆

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    4. applebonkers
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      and how cheeky does junior hoilett look? just wanna take him home and give him a little head rub

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Man City away is quite nice, though they seem to have put the stripes the wrong way on the arms?!

        There are some ghastly ones though that I definitely dont want to see in my FPL team!

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      Have Bolton ever had a good home kit?

      Rubbish.

      Spurs home is good. Quite like Sunderland away, too.

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      1. Shakey
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        Sp*rs have kept up their annual piss-stained kit with that black effort.

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        1. TheHazard
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          Quite like that one, you know.

          The badge on Arsenal's is dire I'm afraid 😆

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    6. Seanigula
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      there are some terrible kits in that lot...

      I gotta agree with Arshavin that their away kit makes them look like jockeys

      I kinda like the West Brom away blue

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      that's class.

      the poor grammar makes it even better imo.

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    BOOM!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Ha!

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      Shake

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      1. andy85wsm
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        That was on the radio station at work yesterday, following a few songs after "Summertime".

        Loved it.

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    So Man City supposedly want Aguero, whom they could go and buy if they wanted, as they have a ridiculous amount of cash. Tevez wants to go and they want £50m for him.

    Surely just take Corinthians £39m bid and use that cash to go get Aguero? I realise they have so much cash they can't be forced to sell, but why prolong it.

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    Not the biggest golf fan but would love to see Darren Clarke win!

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    Are we nearly there yet?

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    1. Dave Bauer
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      No...

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    2. 4vets
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      Toilet stop in 10 mins.

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    3. FPL Daniel
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      13th July Mark early in the morning:

      "The Premier League have confirmed to us this afternoon that their Fantasy game is in the final stages of testing for the new season but will not be going live today.

      The game and site have been enhanced and, while things are almost complete, there are still some minor browser issues that need to be ironed out before the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) site can launch."

      "Hang in there folks." - Easy for him to say.

      For me its like the first time you lost trust with your girlfriend. After that nothing is the same.

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      1. Shakey
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        Jesus, you are such a drama queen.

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          Just facts MF not drama, just facts 🙂 Chill and wait the next quotation.

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          1. Shakey
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            You're turning into Fran.

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            1. FPL Daniel
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              With way much better rank and more logic in my fantasy advices. Sorry MF for my posts. I didn't knew that u gonna hate the truth. And that is what I am posting above, like it or not. I apologize

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              1. AP
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                😆

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            2. doisneau
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              Daniel does have a point and, hysterics aside, it does seem that FFS are now (to an inevitable extent as in any corporate relationship) in thrall to FPL on expressing opinion/reason... to quote Mark this morning at about 9.50;

              'I’m going to request that we publish an update today but, understandably, the FPL are reluctant to name a nailed-on date.'

              Request seemingly denied so far, or is an article being penned as we speak?

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              1. Shakey
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                It's the hysterics that are doing my head in.

                "OMG it's the end of the world FPL isn't open in July. It's the end of the world."

                From the sounds of it, FPL are having trouble with their new system or whatever, and don't actually know they'll be able to start it up again.

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                1. AP
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                  "Mfaulkner cancels FPL"

                  Sun headline tomorrow.

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                2. FPL Daniel
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                  http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/07/15/game-review-metro-fantasy-football/comment-page-10/#comment-1722939

                  Thank you Mark. We appreciated it.

                  P.S. MF Admit that u r dying for FPL to open, admit its ok we are here FFS community, no need to be afraid 🙂 😀 🙂

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                  1. Shakey
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                    Not really, no. I'll just end up tinkering for a while, settle on a team, then leave it for a few weeks.

                    the game doesn't start for another month. that's what I'm excited about.

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                3. doisneau
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                  Yeah that sounds about right; it might be worth the wait! I think the thing is that this is a great part of the season for 'serious' players (gosh that sounds sound but I have to be honest!) and if you are working full time then there is not too much casual time for playing around.

                  And there will be an inevitable backlash as some are concerned about the impact of the new tie in on the site and this hasn't been the best start... the FFS crew (probably frustratingly from ther perspective) can't tell us what is going on even if they really wqant to, or even if Daddy Mark just wants to calm the playpen.

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                  1. FPL Daniel
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                    And there is a huge difference than last year when there was a WC fantasy game.

                    What the hell, no FPL so be it, Saturday night is coming.

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        2. applebonkers
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          daniel logging into fpl this morning 😉 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzR6ara8NTU

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          1. FPL Daniel
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            LOL that is very old link, but actually I don't refresh FPL at all, just this site.

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      2. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        12th July Sir Paulos even earlier in the morning:

        "In terms of pricing, Nasri came in at 7.5 and Walcott 7.0 last season and it’s likely FPL will rank Gervinho along the same lines when the prices for next season are revealed later this month. "

        So its mid month not late month. Relax chaps 😉

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          "later this month" could mean 31st July!

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          1. FPL Daniel
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            And my second personal favorite quotation :

            "G-G-Granville says:
            July 12 at 9:29 am

            tutto sarà rivelato presto, sii paziente"

            Sorry it is not in English. It means be patience it is just Government project, we are recording your behavior 🙂

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          2. FPL Daniel
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            I don't mind really if is not on 31st July. Really, but communicate. Tell us we will open on 31st, so be it. That is really acceptable. We live in information era last time I checked.

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            1. 4vets
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              They probably don't know themselves. They could estimate bugs will be sorted by tomorrow and announce they go live on Monday but if the bugs don't get sorted all hell breaks loose and the whiners reaaly start to complain. What we do know is that it's close and that's all we're going to get.

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              1. FPL Daniel
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                There was bug with the Wild card last year and I didn't mind it then. They could repair them ad hoc.

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      3. applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        whoever made that comparison that fpl opening will turn you into the N64 kid is a legend. can't remember who said it but twas funny

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah it was funny, I remember the link.

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  20. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Another well thought out cracker, Sir Paulos - cheers!

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    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Good morning Squire

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Good morning, Demi! 🙂

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  21. Fran
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Downing was essential for Liverpool to buy to provide vital crosses for both Suarez and especially Carroll. Liverpool currently look set for a top 4 place for sure and don't be surprised under King Kenny that they end up challenging for the title. The strength in depth from midfielders that can play more up forward or in different positions are very impressive. They just need an excellent left back the all teams will start to fear Liverpool again.

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    1. Goose
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Why say things like that, stuff like that that gets us Liverpool fans a bad name in terms of being deluded with expectations, if we finish top 4 that would be excellent, realistically we ain't gonna win the title!

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    2. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Loving your optimism Fran

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    3. TheHazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I think Liverpool will have a good season. Just going to be a nightmare to find the right player to cash in on that success for fantasy.

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      1. ToonTom
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Good point

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    4. Louis Van Balls
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Fran...do you really think that 'Pool will be cvhallenging for the title this season? Come on, seriously...

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      1. DementedFlamingo
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Challenging is different to "certainly going to win"... I'd like to think all of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man C, Tott will challenge....

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      2. Jimrod™
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I'm not a Liverpool fan (or a fan of any particular team for that matter - just a fan of football), but I think they're in the mix this year. They're making some good moves and started to show fresh promise in the second half of last season.

        Chelsea's main stars are getting old, the new guys don't seem to be quite there yet. The new boss may work wonders though - at this level I think the quality of player is enough not to need serious tactical management but people-management is far more important and he should be able to re-ignite that Mourhino passion.

        Man U had a lucky season really considering the team they had - though they're now getting better players in too. They always have the ref onside of course - Vidic should have been sent off about 5 times last season, as well as the Rooney forearm smash that wasn't punished. (people will say all teams have some luck but Man U definitely get more than their share).

        Man City the jury is still out on, team not fully gelled, manager a little Italian in style for my liking, works to a point but I don't think it's the best recipe for the Premier League.

        Arsenal - who knows! They seem to be in a bit of a mess at the moment and Arsene still seems to value youth over experience, his last great team had a good balance but this current squad is fragile and fragmented - aside from Cesc who are the real leaders if he goes? The Viera in midfield, the Henry up front, Keown in defence, Seaman in goal etc...

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    5. Duke
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      What about an excellent centre back to replace the ageing and snail-slow Carra? I mean, if Agger gets injured (again) then Carra and Skirts/Kiri is a massively weak pairing at a very important position, especially against the top teams. Look what happened to Arsenal last season: great midfield - couldn't defend, missed Vermalean too much. United, Chelsea, City all very solid at centre back and guess who finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd in the PL? Even Fulham, who scored very few goals last season finished a respectable 8th because of a great defence which revolves around Hangeland. If Liverpool don't sort this out then all the teams will highlight Carra as a weak point and attempt to expose it. Players like Torres, Hernandez, Rooney Tevez will all fancy a foot race with Carra, and I think we all know who'll win. He's a conceded penalty waliking, and even though he's been amazing for the club, it's time sentimentality was put to one side and Carra is dropped to the bench. Otherwise Liverpool will not be challenging for top 3, which I also believe, Fran, they are nearly capable of doing.

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      1. Sasquatch
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I do believe we'll be looking at a LB and possibly a CB before the end of August. Think we need to move some of the deadwood on first though.

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  22. Squeakybumtime
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Sir paulos tweeted earlier "Off to meet up with the @ffscout lads. Busy day ahead"

    Could today be THE day?

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  23. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    When Dalglish says they look thoroughly into data and statistics, do you think he means checking his FPL stats..

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    1. Waldaz
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      OptaKenny 😉

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  24. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Do you not think they could do with another forward or two as cover for Suarez/Carroll. No point with a midfield like they have having to throw N'Gog in if you get a couple of injuries...

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      They need another Carragher more ...

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  25. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    seems like liverpool will go:

    henderson gerrard adam downing
    carroll suarez

    will kuyt stay to warm thew bench?
    will mereilles?
    will that midfield prove too adventurous?
    will their poor defence undermine all the money spent on the front 6?

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    1. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I'd guess, to borrow someone's team name, that Dirk will play "Week in wee Kuyt"

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    2. TheHazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Lucas will probably play to give balance to the midfield, but I think the watchword will be rotation.

      Kenny has a very versatile midfield now, but as your formation points out, it will be difficult not to go with Carroll and Suarez. Going to be very tricky to get the right player.

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    3. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I can't get my head around this - Kuyt and Meireles and Lucas are all twice the player Henderson, Adam and Downing are.

      Henderson should definitely be stuck on the bench for a couple of years, and Gerrard's place should be up for grabs as soon as he injures himself again.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Luckily Daliglish is twice the manager Rafa is so should make up for it 😉

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        1. Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          He has a great chance to prove it by keeping this lot happy and picking the right team!

          Anyway, AriseSirGiggsy, I think Lucas needs to be in there for sure or the team would be lopsided. Neither Adam nor Gerrard are clever players defensively.

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          1. Boom!!!
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            4-2-3-1
            gk
            defence
            lucas gerrard
            kuyt suarez downing
            carroll

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            1. Gargamel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Yeah if Meireles is sold I think this is the best suggestion yet. Adam will be there to step in and do a job when Gerrard is injured and Henderson could play in the wing positions as a sub or against weaker teams.

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            2. TheHazard
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              So £30mil worth of signings on the bench then?

              Just playing devil's advocate, but I think it's highly unlikely we'll see a settled starting eleven.

              Most likely to be nailed on are (injury notwithstanding) Reina, Carra, Gerrard and then maybe Suarez and maybe Carroll.

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            3. bobbydinho - Portland Irons
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              this seems most likely

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      2. AriseSirGiggsy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        who is lucas twice the player of?

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        1. Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Henderson and Adam. Still undecided on Downing.

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          1. AriseSirGiggsy
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            adam the ace free kick taker, midfield general with superb range of passing, wand of a left foot, strong engine and desire to win is half the player of LUCAS??
            sorry, no. just, no.

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            1. Gargamel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Trademark Hollywood passer and luxury player extraordinaire vs Liverpool's player of the year and the holding midfielder of Brazil

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              1. Demí
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Exactly what i said Garg R.E. Lucas

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                1. Gargamel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  Go you!

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                  1. Gold Monster
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    Brazil. Well known for their holding midfielders.

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                  2. Gargamel
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    They're obviously no Blackpool but they're not bad either

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            2. TheHazard
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Do you know what - I was about to call you out for calling Adam a midfield general.

              But the little ginger fella won more 'duels' than any other midfielder bar Lucas last season. Pretty decent duo to have.

              Underrate Lucas at your peril by the way. No midfielder in a major European league won more tackles than the derided Brazilian last season.

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              1. AriseSirGiggsy
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                post deschamps/makelele there is almost a religious deference to the "water-carrier".
                But why must said fella be a limited footballer as weell.
                i know lucas showed some improvement (i was personally more impressed with spearings development) but I think adam cud fill this role for the scouse in the way that XABI ALONSO did...

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                1. Gargamel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  I agree that Lucas doesn't excel in the simple passing game in the way Makelele or Busquets did/does but he's a great ball winner who can help keep the game ticking.

                  I just don't think any side can fit Adam AND Gerrard in without a holding player. Xabi Alonso was so much more intelligent and composed. His long passes also actually reached their target quite often, quite the opposite of Gerrard and to some extent Adam in other words.

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                  1. AriseSirGiggsy
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    NOT that im saying his career is over or anything, but i thnk weve seen the best of garrard now...
                    it did strike me last season that adam's playing style was very much that of a "poor-mans" stevie G

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                  2. Gargamel
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    Agreed on both points

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                  3. TheHazard
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    Good point actually. Xabi Alonso's biggest advantage in the deeper role was that he could get the ball forward and into Gerrard's feet, where he could be especially dangerous.

                    They've really missed that recently, but Adam could be a worthy successor.

                    Don't see how they can go with the double pivot of Adam and Lucas without going one up front though. That gives the option of Carroll up top and then two of Kuyt, Suarez and Dwoning on the wings with Gerrard an advanced midfielder. But as I say, they'll probably mix and match throughout the season.

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            3. Duke
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              I agree with you, Arise, can't get my head around people preferring Lucas over Adam. Starnge.

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              1. Duke
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                *strange

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              2. njfsdkffslkf
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Because Lucas is a better player.

                But you have been told by all media outlets that Adam is to generate hyperbole interest and money.

                Its more profitable to talk up a set piece taker than a ball winner. Both are good

                Lucas is better overall and more important to the team.

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      3. big oak
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        i dnt think any team would pay this sum to put him on the bench, i say he will play as a defensive mid, and occasionally as a winger when faced against the likes of baines or cole.

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        1. Demí
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Henderson isn't a defensive mid.
          Why not just let Liverpool's player of the year, and 1st choice DM for the Brazil national team play there.

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        2. Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          He's young enough to handle a spell on the bench. I think Liverpool will need to show quick results after that incredible investment and I don't think Henderson has the quality to break into that midfield at this point.

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    4. big oak
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      i see henderson playing deep, with kuyt on the wing.
      adam is unlikely to feature with gerrard, cnt see two playmakers in midfield.
      the question is, whats more important: adam for 12 mil for midfield cover or jose enrique for 12mil at LB?

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      1. AriseSirGiggsy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        i understand investing in the squad but paying £20m for henderson and £12 for adam seems more than that

        perhaps their are doubts about gerrard's fitness from now on?
        (NOTE: his non-inclusion in pre=season)

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        1. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Just to be clear, Henderson was about £16m and Adam £7m according to the quality papers. Liverpool have overpaid this seaon, no doubt, but no need to exaggerate the point.

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      2. Cluckfuster
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I see Kenny attempting to field 13 players and hoping that nobody notices.

        Perhaps Henderson could warm up, down the wing?

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  26. TheHazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Good read that. I'd suggest that in fantasy terms the two biggest prospects as a result of this move will be Andy Carroll and Charlie N'Zogbia should he move to Villa.

    Can't see myself investing in Downing just yet, because it's unclear how much playing time he will get. That said, he should be miles ahead of Joe Cole and Maxi - even if Maxi did have a good run last season - so if he can establish himself he could provide a great option.

    Shame fpl didn't restart before the move, though, as it has probably added another £1mil to his value 🙁

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  27. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Downing's investment depends on his price - if he stays at below 9.0, I will have a go, for sure ...

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    1. Louis Van Balls
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Downing should be 7.5. If he is 9.0, then good luck getting any decent MFs this season.

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      1. TheHazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Moving to Liverpool will probably boost his price, so I'd expect he'll be more than 7.5.

        There's always value to be found, though, it might just mean looking at different players to the ones that were steals last year.

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        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Arteta and Gerrard should offer more value than they did last year, for instance.

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          1. TheHazard
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Defo. Eyes firmly on both for sure. Too early for a bandwagon?

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            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Ssssh! I don't think anyone's noticed!

              Arteta will need to keep hold of penalties and the majority of set piece duties, and ideally take up a more advanced role. It's certainly a possibility if Rodwell forces himself into the side more consistently.

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                I shall not be investing in Gerrard as it stands - will have to do a spectacular to convince me now ...

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              2. TheHazard
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Yeah kind of agree there.

                Can't help feeling that Baines is the man to have though, what with all of his set piece skill, assists and the potential for clean sheets.

                Obviously a very expensive option, but you'd probably take a midfielder who was 7.5 and offered his attacking returns.

                Set pieces will be key though. Hopefully Everton can buck their trend for slow starts and make some headway against tot QPR bla AVL WIG in their first five before fixtures take a nose dive.

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  28. MA
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Congratulations to Liverpool for lifting the title this season..

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Look! You guys haven't lost Baines yet! Just have patience ...

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  29. TheHazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    😆

    Delia Smith's "Where are yoooouuu!" in 04/05 was just on Premier League Years.

    More of the same this year please Delia. You weirdo.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nonetheless, made her seem human - in my eyes, at least. Often wanted to say the same thing to Hammers fans, recently ...

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      1. TheHazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Don't get me wrong, it's always great to see some passion.

        But she did look like she'd had a couple too many glasses of wine and it was pretty cringeworthy.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Actually, in the context of the match - which you can't see on the telly - it wasn't. Had a mate who was there, and he came back ten feet tall. Unfortunately, the media laid in, and the rest is history ... sadly. Always loved Delia a bit since then - even tried one or two of her recipes ... 😉

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      2. Oliver Reed
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        'made her seem human' made her seem drunk more like..

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Takes one ...

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          1. Sasquatch
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            😆

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    2. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Is she still at the club?

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      1. TheHazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Where is sheeee?

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    3. Sasquatch
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Stephen Fry is a NCFC fan as well apparently... I'd personally love to see Delia deliver another rant, but penned by Fry. Poetry!

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      1. TheHazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        😆 Where art thooooooouuu!!??

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        1. Sasquatch
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          😀

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
          Or close the wall up with our English dead.
          In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
          As modest stillness and humility:
          But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
          Then imitate the action of the tiger;
          Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
          Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
          Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
          Let pry through the portage of the head
          Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
          As fearfully as doth a galled rock
          O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
          Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean.
          Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
          Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
          To his full height. On, on, you noblest English.
          Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof!
          Fathers that, like so many Alexanders,
          Have in these parts from morn till even fought
          And sheathed their swords for lack of argument:
          Dishonour not your mothers; now attest
          That those whom you call'd fathers did beget you.
          Be copy now to men of grosser blood,
          And teach them how to war. And you, good yeoman,
          Whose limbs were made in England, show us here
          The mettle of your pasture; let us swear
          That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not;
          For there is none of you so mean and base,
          That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
          I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
          Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:
          Follow your spirit, and upon this charge
          Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!'

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            - Brian Clough, on the occasion of the second European Cup Final ... 😉

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  30. ToonTom
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone here at the Darlington game last night?

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    1. Dave Bauer
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Saw that on SSN a while ago - mental!

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      1. Sasquatch
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Pitch invasion at a pre-season friendly? Mental indeed.

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        1. ToonTom
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          It was a bunch of kids and idiots from what Ive seen/heard. Annoys me as people love to bracket Newcastle fans as irrational idiots to be patronised and this just plays into their hands. I bet another prem club doesnt do this on their first friendly!

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          1. Dave Bauer
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            That's it now Tom, all Newcastle are idiotic thugs in my eyes!

            😉

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Now is probably not the time to mention Attila the Hun ... 😉

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          2. Sasquatch
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            It's always a bunch of kids/idiots. I don't think any normal-thinking person would tar an entire fanbase with the same brush as a minority of muppets.

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            1. ToonTom
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Well said, alas many do mate and Im sure you have met them....

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              1. Sasquatch
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Yes, I'm a Liverpool fan 😆

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        2. Dave Bauer
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          And properly fighting as well - amongst themselves!

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          1. ToonTom
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Darlington fans did their bit too, not that it makes any difference. The guys should be banned. Not the best way to show our new French players what we are about The video Ive got shows to explain but it its moronic!
            Sorry if Im being overly serious but it gets to me, Im not a geordie and constantly have to explain to other footy fans I dont want 5 new striker, Keegan back or to fight! Footy is not about that

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            1. Dave Bauer
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              I'm with you mate - every club has some sort of reputation or element of their support that is true of only a tiny minority yet they're all branded with it. Such is life!

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yep *rubs black eye*

      (no, I wasn't really - couldn't resist!)

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