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16 July 2011 1632 comments
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Liverpool have completed their fourth signing of the summer with the £20m capture of Stewart Downing from Aston Villa on a long-term deal. Having had a £15m bid for the winger knocked back last week, Kenny Dalglish wasted little time in returning with an improved offer and with Villa giving the club permission to speak to the player on Thursday, the deal reached a speedy conclusion, following weeks of media speculation.

Downing joins Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Alexander Doni in arriving at the club this last few weeks and continues the major rebuilding process undertaken since Dalglish replaced Roy Hodgson back in January. Liverpool’s Director of Football, Damien Comolli, shared his thoughts on the transfer:

“We needed that pace and wide player that can bring us something extra, which we did not have in the squad. He has the right mentality, the right attitude and was absolutely committed to coming to us, so we are delighted.

He is a big, big signing for us. When we have Andy up front, he can put those balls in, but also he’s got more than that. We look thoroughly into data and statistics before signing players and we really think we are bringing a big, big asset into our team.”

Downing also spoke to the club’s official website upon completion of the transfer:

“It’s a great feeling and I’m very happy to be here. With the tradition, the manager and the players they have here, there was a big temptation to come here and once I knew of their interest, there was only one place I wanted to go.

‘It will be a great feeling to run out at Anfield. When I wanted to come to Liverpool, it was the first thing I thought of – playing at Anfield in front of those great fans. I’m really looking forward to it.”

The Statistics

A graduate of Middlesboro’s Academy, Downing debuted for his hometown club back in April 2002, though a failure to establish himself in the first-team meant he played just six games in his first two seasons. Loaned out to Sunderland in 2003-04, he made 7 appearances and scored 3 goals before injuries at the Riverside saw him recalled.

Resultantly given a run of games to nail down a starting place, Downing grabbed his opportunity and became a regular starter for Boro, staying with the club until the end of a doomed 2008/09 season that saw them relegated to the Championship. In total, he played 171 league matches for Middlesboro, scoring 17 goals and making 17 assists.

Snapped up by Martin O’Neill for Aston Villa in the summer of 2009, Downing, upon recovering from a broken foot, proved to be a key player for the Midlands outfit. Over the past two campaigns the winger has played 63 league games, scoring 9 and assisting 9 goals, with last season’s returns of 7 goals and 3 assists indicative of his growing influence on the side. He’s also played 22 times for England, picking up 3 assists.

The Prospects

The addition merely adds to the currently congested midfield but, as the weeks progress, departures are likely to start filtering out of Anfield and a clearer picture will emerge of Dalglish’s intentions.

Joe Cole and Milan Jovanovic seem certain to leave and with Raul Meireles and Maxi Rodriguez both linked with moves away from Liverpool, Downing’s prospects as a first-team option perhaps look greater than both fellow new-boys Charlie Adam and Jordan Henderson, with less competition for a left wing role than in the centre and wide right.

Another factor here is that Downing’s arrival brings yet another set-piece taker to Liverpool; Henderson was number one for Sunderland corners, Adam took, well, everything for Blackpool and Downing shared corner kicks with Ashley Young. Downing took 93 corners last season but, with Steven Gerrard also added to the mix, he’s likely to lose that part of his game.

Downing’s crossing will bring a crucial extra element to Liverpool’s play, however, which may help the club bring the best out in Andy Carroll. Last season, Downing made 51 successful crosses, third best in the league behind Leighton Baines and Nani. With just 15, Raul Meireles was best Liverpool midfielder, a clear indication of the side’s inefficiency from the flanks.

This lack of quality aerial supply meant Carroll’s effectiveness in the air suffered; he won 62% of aerial duels at Newcastle but just 46% at Liverpool. For as much as Downing’s delivery has been talked about as the key to Carroll’s effectiveness, in terms of Fantasy perspective, Carroll may prove the answer to unlocking Downing’s potential; Downing made a total of 243 crosses last season and picked up just 3 assists- Carroll’s ability to turn those crosses into goals could considerably boost Downing’s assists and propel him into our Fantasy thinking as Dalglish looks for a top-four finish this time round.

The knock-on effect at Villa Park brings Marc Albrighton further into the picture, with the youngster currently Villa‘s only first-team right winger. New boss Alex McLeish must move to strengthen his options on both flanks, though, and has been strongly linked with Wigan’s Charles N’Zogbia. The Frenchman is likely to play on the left, though Gabby Agbonlahor’s adaptability may influence Big Eck’s thinking here. Set-pieces are also up for grabs, with the club now bereft of their two main takers from last season and N’Zogbia would be nailed-on favourite if he makes the move to the Midlands.

McLeish is notoriously defensive-minded and much will depend on his favoured formation. Last season he fielded a 4-4-2 on twenty occasions but Birmingham’s other eighteen games saw them play with just one forward up top. Five in the midfield could even bring forgotten man Stephen Ireland into the equation, with the player positive of his chances of becoming a key member of the Villa side under the new regime.

Further Reference

Stewart Downing Wikipedia

Stewart Downing Stats

Stewart Downing Goals and Assists 2010/11

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  1. Mojo17
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    Less than 34, African cup of nations in Jan mate

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    1. Jonah
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      Always boosts some interesting options, Fantasy-wise.

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  2. Dave Bauer
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    Knew he'd miss. Good to get it out of your system in a friendly I suppose!

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  3. Zep
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    Can someone enlighten me please on a question I have regarding PaddyPowers each way offer for The Open...

    If there are, say, 5 people in 7th place come Sunday evening, will all the E/W bets on those players be paid out?

    Thanks

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    1. Dave Bauer
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      Yea but you'll only get a fraction of the odds. So if you backed Glover at 200/1 and there are 3 others tied in 7th, you'll get a quarter of the odds you would have got. So 200/1 each way pays 50/1 for a top 7 finish, but because there are four of them you'll only get a quarter of that, i.e. 12.5/1

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      1. Zep
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        Ok thanks...

        So the number of people on the same hypothetical score determines the fraction of the already quartered odds?

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        1. Dave Bauer
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          Yup.

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  4. PFOR
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    Anyone considering Leon Osman? Excellent at the end of last season, £6.5m would tempt me.

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      Shhhhh...... Let them open first, now they are reading here. He could be 5.5 even. Please mate be quiet (whispering)

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      1. Wilfried Bony M
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        Or else speak very loudly:

        EVERYONE KNOWS HART IS WORTH £4.5m TOPS

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          What Hart 4.5m? Why so expensive??? 😉

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      2. PFOR
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        Agree with MF, calm down mate.

        I doubt they give a shit about the pricing so long as it's reasonable. There must be something wrong with the game at the moment.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      SHADDUP! that is MY differential!!! 😡 😉

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  5. FPL Daniel
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    Kenwyne Jones and Kevin Doyle

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    1. 4vets
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      I didn't know they were gay.

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        Gay or not, they both scored.

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        1. 4vets
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          Did they? I hope with each other 😉

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          1. Demí
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            =O

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            1. FPL Daniel
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              hahahahahahahah Post of the day mate, post of the day. 4vets keep them coming 😀 😀 😀

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        2. applebonkers
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          that line has tombstone potential. for siamese twins especially

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  6. 4vets
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    Right... serious stuff. Having cunnigly disguised my true identity to the hoards about to invade this site due to the FFS/FPL relationship. Should I link my team or not?

    I'm glad about the delay in starting. It lets me ponder deep things.

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      LINK IT JP 😉

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      1. 4vets
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        Lol... I could link it to Doosra's 🙂

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          The more, the merrier ... literally! 😉

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  7. PlayPercentage
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    Anyone know the name of the IT company that develops the FPL site?

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      WeAreSchmucks Co. Ltd.

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    2. 4vets
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      Microsoft 😉

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      1. PlayPercentage
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        Late Software PLC

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          Very Late Software PLC 😀

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    3. Shakey
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      ISM

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  8. Damo.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0dcdoU51rk he's got balls anyway

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    1. applebonkers
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      it looks quite innocent, the guy almost looks confused as if he looked down and thought 'oops wrong shirt' or he turned up and said 'is this the man utd pre-season game?'

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    2. applebonkers
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      it's known as the reverse owen

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    3. AP
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      "Who are riverpoor anyway"

      looooooool

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    4. 4vets
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      Maybe the Man U/L'pool relationship loses something in translation. I did feel sorry for him though.

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    5. Damo.
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      I don't know what I find more entertaining on you tube. The clips are the morons that comment after it

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  9. Gargamel
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    Did you guys see this? Someone went to a Liverpool training with a Manchester United shirt. What an absolute hero - wish I had the guts to do that.

    Reaction from the Liverpool fans is funny too.

    http://www.kckrs.com/fan-wears-man-united-shirt-to-liverpool-training-ends-as-youd-expect/

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    1. 4vets
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      A touch too late with this post.

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      1. Gargamel
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        Oops - see that's what happen when you post links without telling what they're about Damo Fitz. Made me look like an ass.

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        1. 4vets
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          Not at all... well not as much I make myself "appear" to be an idiot.

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    2. Marknlard
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      Haha, his face is a picture after they remove his shirt.

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      1. Marknlard
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        I expect that's the high point of the season for most of those people.

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  10. Leeds Lad
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    anyone got a metro league they dont mind me joining? my mates dont play metro but wanted to give it a go. makes it more fun if you are in a league, even if you dont know the other players. thanks!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      6643

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      1. Leeds Lad
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        cheers fella!

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  11. mufc802
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    Why can't FPL just use their old system for now and let us pick our teams and when their new one is ready just update the code by closing the site for an hour or something so nobody has to wait and they get more time to fix up their new site.

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    1. Wilfried Bony M
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      or just a list of prices even!

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    2. 4vets
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      Because there are mods to the game that are probably incompatible with the old style. A little patience, Grasshopper.

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  12. Demí
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    MMW - Catch the tour de france today?

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
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      Demi, that Hutton to Villa deal looking a wee bit more likely now as Cuellar has agreed a deal with Rangers

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      1. Demí
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        Aye GreenDreams.
        I think it will happen anyway. Hutton seems surplus to requirements at Spurs, and we know McLiesh has a good relationship with him.

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
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          bbc were also talking about Villa about to splash out soon. Will be interesting to see who they get as they have a nice start to the season

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          1. Demí
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            Indeed. Personally i've got my eye on Given/Clark Albrighton and Bent from Villa in line with their good start

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Yep. The mountain boys are making their moves ...

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      1. Demí
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        Did Andy Schlek win today's stage in the end?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          No - 3rd. 🙂

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          1. Demí
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            Booo ... 🙁

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              He has got 3 more opportunities - keep the faith ... and maybe get Basso ...

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              1. Demí
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                Already have him i think. Will cbeck later

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  And you will need a time trial expert for round 7 - let me know when you find one - I'm lost without Bradley ... 🙁

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                  1. Demí
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                    Sacribleu 😡

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  13. Oliver Reed
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    have the pr*cks at fpl not updated it yet. How do i do and angry face...

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    1. Wilfried Bony M
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      By furrowing your brow and snarling. Red face optional

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        1. Wilfried Bony M
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          No no no you've got it all wrong, angry face isn't smiley, that's happy face. Don't use smileys

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    2. Shakey
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      type "angry face" in caps lock three times.

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      colon"mad"colon

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  14. Dan - We want our Trophy ba…
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    😡

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Reply fail ...

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      1. 4vets
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        Nice angry face though!

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        1. Dan - We want our Trophy ba…
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          Oh S##t! thanks though 4vets.

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        2. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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          Looks more constipated if you ask me.

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          1. 4vets
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            Not going to spy on you on the loo 😉

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            1. 4vets
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              Ermm... not that I spy on anyone else, of course.

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            There is a touch of that, though, isn't there? 🙂

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            1. Dan - We want our Trophy ba…
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              Must be how the guys are at FPL at present struggling to get the game out!

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

                😆

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  15. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Henderson, Adam, Carroll and Downing = 80 - 85m

    Jones, Young, De Gea and Sneijder? = 80 - 85m

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    1. 4vets
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      Who needs Sneijder when you have Charlie Adam? I'll get my coat.

      KK must have something in mind although I can't quite see it.

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  16. AP
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    Ugh, why on earth are we playing Barca again. We'll have just got over the last game and they'll pump us again. Great work Utd fixture planner.

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
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      lol,

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      1. Dan - We want our Trophy ba…
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        Keep the faith AP!

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    2. 4vets
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      When's the game? Is it on TV?

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      1. AP
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        Last game of the Utd tour of America. Probably will be on sky i'd imagine.

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        1. Dan - We want our Trophy ba…
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          on MUTV on 30th August.

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          1. 4vets
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            Thnx

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            1. 4vets
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              Hold on 30th Aug????

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        2. 4vets
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          Sorry, when is that... roughly. I'd love to watch that one.

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          1. Dan - We want our Trophy ba…
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            My bad 30th July not sure kick off time.

            Getting ahead of myself.

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    3. gooner dave
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      Got any scoreline predictions ap? Your last one on twitter for the cl final netted me £80.

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      1. AP
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        That's a pint you owe me if i come to germany Dave!

        I'd predict the same again, maybe 3-0.

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        1. gooner dave
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          That one comes in I'll make it 2 and throw in a Currywurst.

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          1. AP
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            Woooo.

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          2. PFOR
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            I had that in Hamburg once, very nice!

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    4. Gargamel
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      Maybe it's a shrewd plan to send out the strongest United XI and hope that Barca play some reserves to claim a morale boosting win

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  17. Morrissey1986
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    I see Boseli scored yesterday haha. QPR were rubbish against Harrow Boro I heard some trailist from Zambia who used to play for Frankfurt scored a freekick though.

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  18. Big Bad Barry
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    Wes for utd. A class signing if they can get him another title im sure. Torres sucked again i see

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    1. 4vets
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      "The Italian giants pulled out of a deal at the eleventh hour after dental issues suggested that the player could encounter fitness problems somewhere along the line.!

      Dental issues affecting fitness? What on earth is this?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        It is a well known fact that dental health reflects general bodily health ... 😉

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            😆 I bet she's passed on, now ... 😉

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        That is why you should always look a gift horse in the mouth ... 😉

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        1. 4vets
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          The last time I did that I got zapped with a laser or something similar 😉

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            It is unwise to confront mounted policemen - I am surprised at you, 4vets!!! 😉

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            1. 4vets
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              Me and Gilmore Jnr, we were "THAT" close! Lucky I was more drugged up than him and thus was talking to a small shrub when it all kicked off 😉

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                On a serious note, I am outraged by his sentence. 😡

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                1. 4vets
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                  Which one?

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      3. Shakey
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        teeth have an impact on the muscles, don't they?

        I've heard of plenty of players getting their wisdom teeth removed to stop persistent injuries.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Amongst other things, yes.

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          1. 4vets
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            I can understand the holistic approach but this is way beyond me.

            Ronaldihno anyone?

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  19. iCon
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    Is there some movement on the Sneijder deal?

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    1. AP
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      Nope. "Apparently Sneijder handed out farewell cards to all the Inter players and then individual pancakes with his face drawn on in syrup"

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  20. AP
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    So Citehhhh next year?

    Hart
    Richards Kompany Savic Clichy
    Toure De Jong Nasri
    Silva Dzeko Balotelli

    ?

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    1. Shakey
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      Too attacking for them.

      If Nasri moves (still not looking likely right now unless he actually comes out and says anything), then he'll be played wide. Despite what he thinks, he's better in a wide role.

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      1. AP
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        He played well centrally earlier today i thought.

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        1. Shakey
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          yeah, he can play centrally, but has more impact further forward, drifting about.

          Personally, I think he'd be way better off at United than City. He wouldn't be allowed the freedom he needs under Mancini, whereas Lord Ferg would allow him to swap positions with people and come inside to get involved in play.

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          1. AP
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            True but Utd aren't going to pay him £180k a week, and neither are Arsenal. I doubt he cares where he plays really.... it's all about the MONEH.

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            1. GREENDREAMS11
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              im never sure with you wether you are at the wind up or not. i normally guess if there are gooners about its a wind up.

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              1. AP
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                No wind up in this, surely fairly obvious he'll go to where the most money is.

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                1. GREENDREAMS11
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                  weren't arsenal talking about giving him a huge wage increase ?

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                  1. andy85wsm
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                    110k was last I heard. Think that would make him the best paid player (or maybe equal with Cesc)

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              2. 4vets
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                Can't see where he'd fit in either. Man U have Rooney and Citeh have Silva. THey'd have to poke him out on the wing somewhere.

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            2. Shakey
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              + if Arsenal are going to sell him, it'll be to the highest bidder - i.e. Man City.

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              1. AP
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                If you sell Nasri to Citeh then sign Mata as a replacement it'll be disaster all round. *prays for Wengers stinginess*

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                1. GREENDREAMS11
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                  I read on the BBC earlier on this week they were going to offer him loads to keep him there Andy, my memory is not the greatest but I think it was a good bit more than that.

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    2. GREENDREAMS11
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      lol @ nasri AP.

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  21. O Fenomeno
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    What is your prediction for game this evening PFOR?

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    1. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Hey Fen, punts for tonight? I'm getting used to waking up a little richer each morning 😀

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Just having a look now. Yeah it's great 🙂

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Cue betting fail 🙁

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    2. PFOR
      • 15 Years
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      Hmm, I'm gonna say Kildare by 2. A win tonight should see us through to the quarters.

      Tough one though, Meath forwards know how to find the net, and Hugh Lynch is out for Kildare.

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      1. PFOR
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Don't really bet much myself, but Kildare (-2) is Evens on PP if you fancy it.

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    1. O Fenomeno
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Didn't UCD play last night?

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
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        Yep lol

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        1. O Fenomeno
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          That should be high scoring game! No markets on PP for it though

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  22. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Willoughby is taking the piss out of the Indians ... 😆

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  23. GREENDREAMS11
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    What I dont get with Arsenal/Wenger is why they are not more active in trying to sign quality defenders right now. Wenger stated that they are prone to the counter due to the way they play their football but surely a man of his stature can see thats where he needs to strengthen right now.

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    1. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I imagine they are trying to find a Vidic type. One who's a beast in the air but also not a complete clutz with the ball at his feet. Not easy to find with Wengers budget.

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      1. applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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      2. gooner dave
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Also personally a bit concerned with lb too. Gibbs has the potential, however his injury record is of concern. And if verm fills in as some are speculating, then ofcourse that leaves us light in the middle.

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      3. Tight Arsene
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Gary Cahill, Per Mertesacker, Chris Samba

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        1. AP
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Chris Samba is a clutz. The other two would be pushing 20m.

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          1. Tight Arsene
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Jose Enrique

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        2. gooner dave
          • 15 Years
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          Cahill yes, samba ditto. Mertesaker no thanks. I'd throw Dann in there too....

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          1. gooner dave
            • 15 Years
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            Or complete fantasy hummels from BVB.

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            1. AP
              • 16 Years
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              Interesting that Wenger did try to buy Jones but got turned down. He must be willing to spend at least 18m on a good defender then!

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      4. Shakey
        • 16 Years
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        Despite being anti-Cahill for a good while now, he isn't a complete clutz (good word) with the ball at his feet.

        My issue is his defensive capabilities when the ball isn't in the air.

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    2. The Holy One
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Also surprised they don't sign players sooner (same with Chelsea) when they're playing CL next month. Man Utd did it right with signing their players early.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        yeah, seems strange to leave it so late, also gives the selling teams more leverage to inflate the price as the buying teams get more desperate and have less time to look for alternatives if the deals dont materialise.

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  24. GREENDREAMS11
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    O'Fen, do you normally do single bets, i've seen you tip a few accys but also mentioning a lot of singles. Or do you do doubles & trebles etc ?

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    1. O Fenomeno
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Mainly just singles, if I post two or three bets in one comment I have done them all as singles.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
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        ah cool, so just trying to kinda double up on your stake more or less but with what you think are near certainties ?

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        1. O Fenomeno
          • 14 Years
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          Yep exactly, its tough with the bigger stakes because a few losses can be a killer.

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  25. O Fenomeno
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    iCon I like Seattle @ 4/5 to beat Colorado Rapids, MLS Kick Off 21:00

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      O fen, do you just put £20 or so on each single bet or do you do a bot of everything ?

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Anything from 50-100. Depending on how high, or low :smile:, the balance is!

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          thats pretty hardcore :).

          still no pain no gain.

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    2. PFOR
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I got back to you further up O Fen.

      Donegal at 4/6 tomorrow look decent too.

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I'm pretty confident about Derry! 🙂

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    3. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice....might even get into watching a bit of baseball...used to be a big Am Football fan and used to love it. How's the Austian match going? Threw a small one on it.

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Oh it's not going well losing 1-0, I didn't know anything about either team other than the info I found so was kind of a shot in the dark!

        Yeah there is baseball @ 9 going to have a bet on it!

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        1. iCon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah you didn't seem over confident so only threw a small one on it.

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          1. O Fenomeno
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Did you get on the other tip? That won.

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      2. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        LMFAO....that's MLS not baseball!

        /Punter Fail

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    4. vova
      • 15 Years
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      hey fen, i see u like your bets. Im playing a virtual online betting game (how lame i know). I have been doing pretty well so far (touch wood). What do u think about this bets (in decimals)
      Seattle to beat Colorado Rapids @ 1.86
      Curtiba to beat Fluminese @ 1.85 or more tha 2.5 goals @ 1.86

      feel free to suggest anymore?
      cheers 🙂

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        If you have made any money from that online game get out now, it will all be taken back in the hope you will try to win it back!

        Yea take those odds, I took slightly worse on both. Cortiba is a nice pick!

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        1. vova
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          nah its just for fun no actual money involved. the winner after a certain ammount of time gets some prizes (something like fpl)

          also any tips on the MLS tonight?

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          1. O Fenomeno
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Seattle is MLS...

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            1. vova
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              i know but any others?

              Columbus Crew to beat San Jose Earthquakes @ 1.95
              Chicago Fire to beat Portland Timber @ 1.80

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              1. Seanigula
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Portland have not won away yet this season, though Chicago get a lot of draws

                The MLS has many draws because there is really no downside to getting them...finishing lower on the table doesn't really matter as long as you still get a playoff spot

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                1. vova
                  • 15 Years
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                  cheers, so will i be safe betting on chicago and columbus wins? or is it better to bet under 2.5 goals. am i right to consider that MLS is low scoring?

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                  1. Seanigula
                    • 16 Years
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                    I'd go Chicago game under 2.5 goals...I think I saw recently that goals were way down in the MLS this season...Chicago doesn't score much and Portland don't do well away, so I think that's the safest bet...I don't know enough about Col/San Jose to give any input on that one

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  26. Cluckfuster
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I genuinely thought that the FPL would be up and running at somepoint today.

    I just hope that my pencilled in team are still affordable

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    1. Sasquatch
      • 16 Years
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      Care to tell us who you have pencilled in? I'm sure the experts here could give you a nice educated guess as to their cost. 😉

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      1. Cluckfuster
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Potential prices for these?

        GK Foster Begovic
        DF Luiz Hangeland Young Coleman O’Shea
        MF Maxi Rodriquez Larsson Walcott Dempsey Arteta
        FW Odemwingie Bent Zamora

        Pencilled of course.

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        1. mufc802
          • 15 Years
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          5.5 5
          7.5 6.6 5 5.5 5
          6.5 5 7 7 7.5
          7 8.5 7

          Just a guess.

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        2. Seanigula
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          I think you'd be btter off with a midfield of...

          Downing/Adam Gardner Wilshire Duff Cahill

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          1. Cluckfuster
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Hmm...

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        3. Sasquatch
          • 16 Years
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          I think Coleman will be down as a mid in FPL this season, but will actually be playing more at RB for Everton (according to Moyes).

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          1. Cluckfuster
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            I fear you're right.

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  27. GREENDREAMS11
    • 16 Years
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    Thanks for the info Fen, its good to see how other ppl make their bets. I'm off to the horse racing on Friday. Do you do horses at all ?

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    1. O Fenomeno
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Oh the horses are the devil, I have tried to stop but it's hard. Good luck staying off them brother. 🙂

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  28. vova
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    hey fen, i see u like your bets. Im playing a virtual online betting game (how lame i know). I have been doing pretty well so far (touch wood). What do u think about this bets (in decimals)
    Seattle to beat Colorado Rapids @ 1.86
    Curtiba to beat Fluminese @ 1.85 or more tha 2.5 goals @ 1.86

    feel free to suggest anymore?
    cheers 🙂

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