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The Numbers Game – Ramsey’s Progress

29 September 2011 747 comments
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While the departure of Cesc Fabregas and the arrival of fellow Spaniard Mikel Arteta at the Emirates triggered a burst of interest in the former Everton man, recent weeks have seen Arteta somewhat overshadowed in Arsenal’s midfield. Arsene Wenger has put his faith in Aaron Ramsey to fill the void left by Jack Wilshere’s ankle injury and the Welshman has flourished. Recent returns have piqued the interest of Fantasy managers and Ramsey is now blinking on the radar as a new source of coverage within an Arsenal side facing up to a run of favourable opponents.

In this latest Members article, we use our Opta data to examine Ramsey’s progress in recent weeks, assess his performances in relation to Arteta, and explore his overall potential within the mid-price Fantasy bracket.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Granville
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    NUOVO POST

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    1. CC22
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      That answers my question...

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  2. applebonkers
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    just in general ramsey's touch looks better and he looks a bit more confident now

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    1. MAD
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      glimpses of class, but he still goes missing in games... much rather have him than arteta fpl-wise though

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  3. applebonkers
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    falcao 6/4 anytime scorer. game starts in 2 mins and yes he's starting

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      Too late

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      1. applebonkers
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        i stuck £1 on him FGS too, 5/1. not the easiest of fixtures at all but not the hardest either

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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          Was gonna put €2 on Atletico to win and him to score but was too shlow

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    2. MCM
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      Payday tomorrow 🙁

      Would if I could.

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  4. applebonkers
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    boo no first goal for falcao. courtois concedes but it was a great strike

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  5. applebonkers
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    another £2 donated to paddy power. falcao 🙁

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    1. jamsiep
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      LOLcao.

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  6. Hman
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    Damn just got him out 🙁

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  7. Gunnersaurus Rex
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    Rooney out 4 rvp/ageuro who will i pick first to 5 wins

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    1. MAD
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      If you have Silva, then I'd have to say RvP... especially if you don't have any other Arsenal coverage for their next two home games.

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      1. Gunnersaurus Rex
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        i have silva but i dont fancy arsenal to bang in de goals they are off form

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        1. MAD
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          Why are you asking if you think that Aguero is the better pick then? 😛 I thought you only asked for help when you actually needed it 😛

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          1. Gunnersaurus Rex
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            im so confused and i still cant decide 🙁

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    2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      I have RVP but I've had him for weeks. If I had the choice I'd go Aguero

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      1. Gunnersaurus Rex
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        cheers i was leanind dat way

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  8. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    pick two to play out of the following four this weekend?

    Ward,Simpson,Faurlin,Gutierrez

    moving toward ward and Gutieerez but really cant make my mind up.

    any advice would be greatly appreciated

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    1. Elniñorules
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      ward + faurlin (on PEN w/o bent)

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        bent plays for villa??? am I missing something here?

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        1. Elniñorules
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          lol what a joke u are sir. made my day!

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            u been smoking something u nutter?

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            1. Elniñorules
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              DARREN BENT PLAYS FOR VILLA WTF NOT ANZHI OR BATE

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              1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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                no need to shout stoney! the reason I put Bent ??? was because you said Faurlin (because he's on pen w/o bent)Faurlin plays for QPR you nutter

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                1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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                  Not even a wiff of "oh yeah sorry about that" what a joke you are sir....

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      2. GreenWindmill
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        Thinking of Bannan?

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          ok now its clear.. so Gutierrez or Faurlin?

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    2. GreenWindmill
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      Hard to say, I'd maybe go for Ward and Faurlin. Good news is you probably won't be missing a big points haul whoever you leave out! 😀

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        fair point.. I'm sticking with my original decision of ward/Gut.. your right it probably wont matter... cue Faurlin goal and assist

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          actually i'm just going to pick them out of a hat

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          1. GreenWindmill
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            Lol!

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            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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              anyway.. back to non stoned world...(bit gutting really..) My son picked Ward and Faurlin out of the hat.. although he did say someting about go for Faurlin because bents out and he's made a last minute transfer to Villa

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              1. Twisted Saltergater
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                I want something of what elninorules is having!

                On second thoughts, maybe not 😉

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                1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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                  I know it's tempting... BUT IT MAKES YOU TALK LIKE THIS>>> DO YOU UNDERSTAND.. so maybe not 🙂

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  9. mikess
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    1) Cabaye WOL (A)

    Or

    2) Dyer STO (H)

    Cheers in advance

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    1. mikess
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      who to start...

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    2. heco87
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      I've gone Cabaye for now but tempted to change ...(see below)

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    3. Cruicky
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      Dyer, at home to Stoke who play Europa League game on Thursday - 2 day rest.

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      1. southern softie
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        Dyer

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  10. Elniñorules
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    Should I remove Dzeko/Sess for 4/8 pt hit?

    My team looks like this:
    Vorm
    Collins Baines Brown
    Nani (C) Mata Sess Sinclair
    Dzeko RVP Agbonlahor

    Subs – Given, Moses, Simpson, De Laet
    0.9 in the bank.

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    1. MAD
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      If you think the players that you're bringing in have a good chance of scoring 4/8pts more... then yes you should.

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  11. AP
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    So will Pardew start Barfa this Weekend? Also, unless SWP does something this weekend, it'll be time to swap him out for Rambo.

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    1. GreenWindmill
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      Can't say for sure but my money would be on an unchanged line-up this week to reward last week's decent showing. Expect at least half an hour of Ben Arfa towards the end though. Suspect he's being eased back.

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      1. AP
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        Yeah. Agreed 🙁

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        1. GreenWindmill
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          In my wildcard plans for next week though, nailed on once he's fully fit.

          Oh, and Rambo? Ramires?!

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          1. AP
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            Ramsey...

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            1. GreenWindmill
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              Of course, Ramires didn't seem likely.

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      2. Attila the Bum
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        +1

        Ben Arfa and Santon to appear off the bench.

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  12. heco87
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Afternoon,

    Any thoughts on my team would be appreciated ... would you make another transfer? (Already done Adeb for Dzeko) Would you leave it the same? Change the captain? Change starting xi? £0.5m in the bank

    Cheers guys,

    Vorm

    Ward, Brown, Bosingwa

    Nani, Cabaye, Silva, Taarabt

    Aguero (c ), RVP, Adebayor

    Schwarzer, Dyer, S Taylor, De Laet

    Tempted to get Scott Sinclair in for Taarabt or maybe get rid of De Laet now for someone?

    Cheers!

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  13. Specialist
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Is it worth getting Rooney out to upgrade Brunt to Nani? If so, who would you recommend? Cheers

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    1. Specialist
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      Rooney -> Aguero and Mata -> Nani is another option, but I think I'd struggle to bring myself to take Mata out...

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    2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      i went agbon but only coz i didnt have the funds for adebayor

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      1. Captain Robert Hatch
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        0.1 short myself, damn you 2011 price rises and falls

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    3. llamaZA
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      Adebayor

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      1. Specialist
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        Already have him, but thanks! Thinking of going for Bendtner as a bit of a differential.

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  14. mikess
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    so do you guys think rooney is definately out?

    no sneaky appearance.

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    1. Specialist
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      I'm wondering too. Really need united cover this weekend, but will have to take Rooney out to achieve this if he isn't gonna play.

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      1. Taribo West on a free
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        No way Rooney will play - he's got one of those slight 'injuries' that keeps players away from international duty.
        That said, I've got him captained at the mo' just in case.

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  15. AP
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    Wish Mata would hurry up and rise in price. Been on 93% for days.

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    1. Captain Robert Hatch
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      agreeance

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    2. GreenWindmill
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      Negative NTI if anything I think, probably all the people squeezing Nani into the team for the expected Norwich massacre. If he gets more than 2 points this weekend he'll go up twice during the internationals is my guess.

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    3. Crouch Potato!
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      I reckon its its the big swing towards Rameries.

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  16. johnbobman
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Keep in Larsson and bring in Arteta

    Or

    Keep Moses, play dyer and bring in Mata?

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  17. GonDutch
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    is rooney gonna start this wkend? i reckon fergie is full of it!!

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    1. Binman_UK
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      yeah i reckon fergie's bullsh1tting too although i got rid of rooney/dezko/walcott to bring in aguero/adebayor/nani :).

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  18. CarelessGenius©
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    How many are Bolton gonna concede this weekend?

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    1. AP
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      5, all to Aguero (hopefully).

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      1. GonDutch
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        theyre playing chelsea

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        1. AP
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          Ah yeah. Surprise substitute?

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      2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        2

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    2. applebonkers
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      3. anelka x2 and drogba off the bench

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    3. GreenWindmill
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      1 - Petrov og

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  19. Gunnersaurus Rex
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    will i transfer rooney out to rvp now to beat price drop or wait until further news ?

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  20. GonDutch
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    bolton will concede at least 3. is sturridge definitley out?

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    1. CFCTom
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      No, he'll play.

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      1. MAD
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        Got a source on this Tom? Other than AVB saying that he'll only miss the Swansea game last week...

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        1. CFCTom
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          I've seen him train and he looks fit and sharp, plus he told Chelsea TV he's looking forward to playing against Bolton. Also, he wasn't picked for the Valencia game- mainly as AVB values experience of the competition above most other things, so I think AVB will want to involve him. He likes rotation and Sturridge is the most likely candidate to come in along with Drogba. I'm not saying he's nailed on to start but he's pretty much nailed on to feature.

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          1. MAD
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            Ok thanks for the insight... I bought him last week before his midweek injury (had to get rid of Holt). So hoping for a good performance this week, maybe a brace? 😛

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            1. CFCTom
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              Hopefully.

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  21. DV8R
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    Is Drogba worth a punt for this weekend?

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    1. GonDutch
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      bench id say. altho im not sure about sturridges injury. anybody hear anything?

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    2. Royal5
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Is he are sure starter? I can see Sturrige and Mata on the flanks with Anelka up top..?

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      1. MAD
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        With Droggers benched yesterday I can see him starting over Anelka at the weekend.

        Mata Drogba Sturridge

        Is how I think they will line up.

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  22. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Damn it!!

    What time was the Europa League deadline??!!

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      Probably just before Rubin game.... they are losing 0-1 btw

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Blo&^y Russians and their early kick offs!!

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        1. mikess
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          +1 screwed me over with the ucl fantasy yestaerday. caught the europa deadline today tho

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        2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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          Di Natale (c) at Celtic it is then!!

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            Hasn't he just be arrested or summat? No idea if it's true, someone told me when i walked in the office

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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              lol that should say rested

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          2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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            Rested....great!

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    2. The Spudgunner
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      Dunno but i've ended up with this team.

      Begovic
      Shawcross|Briggs
      Diego|Quaresma|Carlos Eduardo|Dempsey|Menez
      Di Natale|Falcao|Giovani

      Di Natale didn't travel with the Udinese squad 🙁

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Virtually my whole team is away!!

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  23. PAVLYUCHENKOSAURUS
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    SOOOOOOOOOO... Where will everyone be queing for FIFA 12 tonight?

    I'm not the type to do such things, but will hopefully pick up a copy for £29 when spending £30 on the weekly shopping this week end.

    Anyone else found any decent deals for FIFA 12? I'm all for saving a few quid!

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    1. PAVLYUCHENKOSAURUS
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      ^ Deal is at Sainsburys, spend £30 in store and get Fifa 12 for £28.99 if anyone was interested 🙂

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      1. GullyOne
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        Got mine already. ordered online, they always ship it out early.

        Shopto.net 😉

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        1. Jimrod™
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          14 years, 2 months ago

          Mine was posted first class from Game on Monday... Still not here. In-fact had no post all week - is there anyone you can speak to when you think your postman is actually just sitting at home on his arse? (seriously, this isnt' the first time I've gone a week without post only to get a dozen+ letters come through on one day...)

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      2. @ImpressiveTackl
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        Sounds like you're getting the best deal Ji Sung Lark.

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    2. Royal5
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      I'm hoping it's possible to dive!

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      1. TigerGaz
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        You can't but you can pull shirts 😀

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Had PS3 version on preorder from Amazon since 16th. Chose the best delivery option i.e. "Expedited" and paid extra but still hasn't arrived (as far as I am aware). It says "Dispatching Soon" on my orders on the site and Estimated delivery is 30th of Sept so hopefully here by tomorrow at the latest.

      Pretty frustrating considering my work colleague who lives in the same town, preordered his Xbox 360 version a week later on Amazon, chose an inferior delivery option i.e. First Class and received it yesterday 😯

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  24. Bingo
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    Just read Roys Brother Jonson got banned - what a Knob, he got pushed off the sunderland 606 site for postin shite a few years back too when keano was manager

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      What did he get banned for?

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        ...And where did you read that?

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    2. AnthonyBkr
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      He was one toxic individual thats for sure.

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    3. AP
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      Really? That's pretty funny.

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      I thought he left of his own accord because jamsiep is a massive racist 😛

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  25. Ginkapo FPL
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    Who do you reckon is the number one striker for QPR?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      No.1 right now is Bothroyd, but DJ will be soon enough

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      1. MAD
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        bothroyd is a donkey

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  26. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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    Glad to see this article as I was contemplating Ramsey.

    With a 4pt hit next week I could have:

    Nani, Mata, Ramsey, Sinclair
    Rooney, Aguero, Adebayor

    Yes?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Mata to Ramires, Sinclair to Silva

      Thanks me later

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        *thank

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        1. More Cowbell
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          Which bit will he thank you for exactly? Not reading his question correctly or suggesting transfers leaving him 1.7m short? 😉

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    2. AP
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      Very similar to what i'll be packing BnB therefore thumbs up from yours truly.

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      1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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        I'll see how things pan out over the weekend before decidign whether to go for the hit or flush the lot down the WC. I just want to be able to WC so I can get rid of Crofts.....

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      RVP remaining a good differential for GW8 and GW9... awesome news 🙂

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    4. More Cowbell
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      Your team couldn't really differ any more from mine yet, infact Nani is the only player we'll have in common, yet I feel both our teams are strong and stand a decent chace of a bit points-haul. Could be an interesting week!

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  27. rohan
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    who would be THE player of the week???

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    1. Royal5
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      Rooney if he starts against Norwich.. Or Adebayor against Arsenal!

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    2. TO
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      Drogba

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    3. MAD
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      sturridge

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    4. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      Nani

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  28. Mole
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    Aagh. Had settled for Nani and Agonlahor over Ramsey and Aguero. Now Im confused again.

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    1. More Cowbell
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      How can you be confused? Just take one look at the fixture list. Nani is a must-have!

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      1. kaz 96
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        so is aguero

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      2. MAD
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        fixture list doesn't agree with nani being a must-have though?

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        1. More Cowbell
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          For this gameweek is certainly does.

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          1. MAD
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            why do you need a whole list for one fixture though?

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            1. More Cowbell
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              Eh? It was a figure of speech.

              Unless you keep every single fixture on a separate list.

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              1. MAD
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                Figure of speech for "look at this weeks fixture" ??? Hahaha...

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                1. More Cowbell
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                  What are you chatting about?

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                  1. More Cowbell
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                    MAD, you are clearly a fruit cake. I bid you good day.

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                  2. MAD
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                    The fact that you sir are an idiot.

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              2. CFCTom
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                If every single fixture is on a seperate 'list', it isnt really a 'list' is it?

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                1. More Cowbell
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                  This is my point.

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  29. CFCTom
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    7 hours until Fifa 12... 😀

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  30. GonDutch
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    • 14 Years
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    fifas crap-ya i said it.

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    1. MAD
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      I enjoyed pes more than fifa last year and fifa more than pes the year before... dunno which one will be better this year.

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Fifa has been better for the last two years, it will be better this year.

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        1. MAD
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          PES was better last year, thought FIFA stagnated a bit.

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          1. The Laughing Man
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 2 months ago

            PES is balls, I've played FIFA for the last 2 years and someone gave me a copy of PES to try out and it was the worst thing ever. No matter how big of a football fan I am, if PES was the only football game out I wouldnt play it.

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    2. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Reminds me of Chris Rock stand up routine, "yeah I said it!".
      And no, Fifa is fantastic, PES is shit compared to it too.

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    3. DHWizzo
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Fifa is great this year. Got in Tuesday and am loving the upgrades.

      Game play and graphics are again suberb, but it is the new game modes and subtle changes to the interface and community that push it over the top.

      More realistic as well. 10 on 10.

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    4. MCM
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I'm torn between the two. Pes has improved this year, by playing the demo. Fifa is amazing to look at though, great atmosphere when playing as well.
      I think BAL and Master league will keep me on PES again this year though.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I could never take PES / ISS seriously with Griggs, Beecham and Orange10 (Bergkamp.)

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      2. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        PES just seems tacky to me, plus the licensing thing is annoying and the graphics are awful, as is the gameplay.

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