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Sunday Dugout Discussion

4 December 2011 1199 comments
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Two more Premier League fixtures this afternoon to keep the gameweek ticking along. The Dugout Discussion opens up for Everton’s fixture at home to Stoke City…

The home side make a single change from last weekend’s victory at Bolton with Louis Saha dropping out completely and Apostolos Vellios taking his place. The Potters, meanwhile, bring in Jonathan Woodgate, Ryan Shotton and Dean Whitehead in three changes to last weekend’s outfit. Teams in full are…

Everton XI: Howard, Coleman, Jagielka, Baines, Hibbert, Heitinga, Osman, Fellaini, Bilyaletdinov, Cahill, Vellios

Stoke XI: Sorensen, Huth, Shawcross, Woodgate, Wilson, Shotton, Whelan, Whitehead, Etherington, Walters, Crouch

We’ll then move on to the only televised fixture of the day as Wolves play host to a Sunderland side looking to impress Martin O’Neill before he takes the reins. A game I can’t bear to watch having brought in Jamie O’Hara and made the laughably rookie mistake of then forgetting to start him.

Two sides with plenty to fight for after an equally poor last couple of months. The Dugout Discussion remains throughout.

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  1. tangtastic
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Referee is 100% certified Stoke fan. How was that not a free kick?!

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  2. HappyAnkit
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Stoke about to get a CS after so many weeks!

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    1. Corrigan
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      I'm so miffed, it's untrue.

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  3. Royal5
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Is Cahill past his prime? Used to be a big goal threat..

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      His fitness isnt upto scratch yet. He also doesnt seem to compete as well as he used to in the air. Everton arent putting enough quality crosses.

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    2. Jack Tatum
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yes he is. He is 32 now though and his body has taken a bit of a beating over the years

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    3. adziom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Past his prime yes, but he still presents a goal threat once he and Everton find some form.

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  4. super zlatan
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Lads. Quick question?

    Who is a better replacement for roger johnson?

    Saylor or brown?

    Have 4.9 to spend.

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    1. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      *meant naylor not saylor. Sorry

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    2. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      S Taylor is out of this season and his price is also 5.1 now.

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    3. HappyAnkit
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      N Taylor or N Shorey.

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  5. Cruicky
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Ref wasn't great, but tbh - Everton at home just didn't do enough going forward to win the way. Had lots of possession vs Stoke (who doesn't), but didn't create enough chances.

    Sorenson & Begovic made like 2 saves between them....

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  6. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    As tempting as loading up on Everton Players for the DGW sounds...I wouldn't select anyone in that lineup, besides the Russian.

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    1. Elniñorules
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      You mean the guy who's wrestling around for a place with the Dutch? 😛

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    2. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      as soon as 2012 arrives they will pick up as usual. They always do. Saha and cahill will then look good options.

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    3. Jack Tatum
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Does loading up on Everton players really sound tempting? Bily was dragged off after an hour today too - as soon as Drenthe is fit he goes back in

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    4. Cruicky
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Only Howard, Baines and Drenthe but tbh, I'd rather have 3 Spurs and no Everton for the DGW.

      Hopefully Everton pick up some form till then

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  7. Elniñorules
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    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    ShawX over Simpson = YES! 😀

    ShawX > Baines for a 4pt hit = NO. Phew!

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  8. Lrf
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Got Baines this week, but i gotta say it is tempting to sell him for Verm. Bit of a jerk maybe, but can always get him back for the double..

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  9. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    wonder if anyone has huth, vermaelen and jones

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    1. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Me.

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Before today....

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    2. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      2 of 3, happy with that. The person with them will be one of those teams that's been left the same since GW1. No-one in their right mind would have Huth at his price and rotation risk.

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    3. andy85wsm
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Only Jones for me.

      Thinking of getting Vermalen, I think he's worth the extra money over Santos, even if it is a bit sideways and points chasing.

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I've got Lescott, Wilkinson and Simpson, close enough.

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  10. Valar(Keith)
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Everton looked so average.. tempted to do Baines and Sessegnon to N.Taylor and Nani/Mata for free.. Can dip into the everton pot later with a 5.3 rodwell for pilkington the next week.. dont want too much invested in them.. my defense heavy with jones richards enrique anyway

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  11. HappyAnkit
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Stoke win.

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  12. UnderstandablyDistraught
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Shawcross cleanie. thank you fpl gods

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      possible 1/2 bps too

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    2. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      It should have been a Sorrenson CS .

      He almost died out there :*(

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      1. Cruicky
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        What? He played 72mins and got a CS.

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    3. Desange
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Im so annoyed thought swansea would keep a clean sheet and evertone would score so played ntaylor ahead of shawx 🙁
      hope enrique doesnt play tomoro

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  13. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Walters likely to get any bonus?

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    1. Jack Tatum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Huth, Shawcross and any other Stoke player who got in the way of those predictable long balls and poor crosses

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  14. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Sess and Westwood been best two players on park so far , sess unlucky not to have goal

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  15. adziom
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Although Everton should have had 2, maybe 3 penalties in that game, its depressing that apart from drawing fouls from the countless crosses we put into the box of a team that's notoriously solid in that department, we showed absolutely no other threat. While most teams usually change tactics at half time having failed to breakthrough in the first half, we continued to lump balls into the box from all over the pitch to no effect... Disappointing.

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    1. Jack Tatum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      We need to start playing 4-4-2 but I don't think we've actually got 2 strikers. Getting rid of Yak looks stupider and stupider (and Beckford for that matter)

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      1. adziom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Yakubu was dreadful for us, but getting rid of Beckford without anyone to come in apart from Stracqualursi, who hasn't played more than 15 minutes at a time until today, seems a bit strange.

        Beckford scored almost 10 league goals last year in a mid table side, without playing week in, week out, and we sold him for £3M..... Teams pay £20-30M for "20 goal a season" strikers, so I don't see how £3M was an accurate valuation, and it's hurting us now.

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        1. Jack Tatum
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          We have scored 15 goals this season, Yak has got 10 for freakin' Blackburn. Moyes is devoted to this 4-5-1 formation no matter how blunt we look. Yak and Beckford would do a job for us, and at least be a change of tactic from the bench. Score first against us and you can just sit back and watch us toil

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  16. 1mills
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    17points on my bench so far then

    Krul, Walters, Shawcross

    With Brown potentially on for a clean sheet aswell, so potentially cost myself 23points with sub choices.

    It's been a good week!

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  17. A.
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    So last week i played Westwood over Vorm - 1 point, this week played Vorm over Westwood - 0 points.

    I thought i chose the 'sensible' choices but ah well, thats the problem with GK rotation..

    And Westwood could still lose his CS this week

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    1. Ivor
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Westwood over Krul for me this week, hope to god he does not!

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Simple. Play SuperVorm week in week out.

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  18. HappyAnkit
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Stoke on 8th position now and Everton 10th.

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Today is Sunday. Water is wet.

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  19. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Whats the deal with goalkeeper saves? I see bbc sport have sunderland with 8 shots on target but hennessey only has 4 saves on FPL? Were the other 4 shots blocked or did FPL miss a couple??

    Every point counts at this desparate stage!

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    1. wayne3004
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Some were blocked / cleared

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    2. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      1 goal line clearance and 3 blocks, check the BBC live text.

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      bbc sport count crosses gathered as saves, FPL correctly doesn't

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        and blocked shots too

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  20. Breadbin
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    HAPPYANKIT requires moderation, silly troll.

    Touchy subject for those who have had a bad week, can anyone tell me if they think I'll make 100 with BP's this week? Team linked. To console you, I'll still quite lowly ranked.

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice score, care to share any of that team value.

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      1. Breadbin
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Only if you wine and dine me.

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    2. Ivor
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      At a push, if bp's are dished out favourably

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    3. A.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Well the most BPs you could get is 19/20, so in theory you could.
      But you're relying on RVP - 6, Verm 2, Jones 3, Bale 3, Sturridge 3, Richards/Silva 1/2, Ade 1

      And if Verm gets 3 with RVP 2, and Richards/Silva/Ade get 0 which is very possible, then you won't quite make it, you'll end up on 99 with 16 BPs.

      Not a bad score though 😉

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  21. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    It says something when the only excitement about the Wolves v Sunderland match for me is "Will Bentner get a yellow card, or be taken off before 60 mins?
    Crucial for my Paddy Power Cup tie...:)

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    1. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      He's as bad as Ji, nearly.

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  22. andy85wsm
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    How was Walters today? Not much chance of BPs I assume?

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      unfortunately not. but his work rate was excellent. stupid stoke players didnt pass to him enough.

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  23. tangtastic
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Come on Bendtner.

    2nd half hat trick..

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    1. Breadbin
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ooof, nice miss.

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  24. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    OK, that settles it, Vermaelen over Baines.

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  25. CFCTom
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Robbery are immense.

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  26. Sheep Flavour
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    So after the Baines love in this week here come the quick get rid of Baines posts this week lol....got to love this game,

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yep and I'm one of the main culprits 😀

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      1. Sheep Flavour
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        lol 🙂

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    2. Sheep Flavour
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      So after the Baines love in last* week here come the quick get rid of Baines posts this week lol….got to love this game,

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    3. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Please do, I'd like to pay less for him after next weekend 😉

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    4. tangtastic
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      As a Baines owner, I'm disappointed by todays result. But definitely keeping hold for a good few fixtures. Todays game was just set up to be rubbish and dull.

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  27. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Should a goalkeeper punching away a corner count as a save? Because Sorrenson made like 20 of them today

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  28. Tmel
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Who to bring in for Hernandez - Yakubu, Ba, Sturridge, Aguero (would need a 4 point hit) or Suarez? - I have RVP and Adebayor

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  29. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    A Larsson goal would take me to 100+ (including baps) Enrique to come. The dream lives on

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  30. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Bendy, you p Rick... Get out of my team

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