[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
10 December 2011 1889 comments
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We’ve a rare Saturday occasion this afternoon. For only the fourteenth time in the last five seasons we have seven kick-offs at the regulation time of three o’clock without any obtuse early or late fixtures. The Dugout Discussion is open for a short sharp two hour spell…

So let’s not dilly-dally and share all of the team news for the day…

Arsenal XI: Szczesny, Vermaelen, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Djourou, Arteta, Song, Walcott, Ramsey, Van Persie, Gervinho (Subs: Almunia, Miquel, Rosicky, Frimpong, Benayoun, Arshavin, Chamakh).

Everton XI: Howard, Heitinga, Hibbert, Neville, Coleman, Baines, Jagielka, Bilyaletdinov, Cahill, Fellaini, Saha (Subs: Mucha, Distin, Barkley, Stracqualursi, Gueye, McAleny, Vellios).

The Arsenal side picks itself with two right-backs and two left-backs out injured we see Johann Djourou and Thomas Vermaelen on the flanks. The visiting team pretty much picked itself with the injuries in David Moyes’ outfit.

United XI: De Gea, Smalling, Evans, Evra, Ferdinand, Nani, Jones, Valencia, Carrick, Rooney, Welbeck (Subs: Lindegaard, Fryers, Park, Gibson, Young, Giggs, Macheda).

Wolves XI: Hennessey, Zubar, Johnson, Ward, Berra, Henry, Jarvis, Edwards, O’Hara, Doyle, Fletcher. (Subs: De Vries, Stearman, Elokobi, Milijas, Hunt, Hammill, Ebanks-Blake).

Manchester United line-up pretty much as expected by our team news. Ashley Young’s injury the only figure of change with Valencia coming in. Mick McCarthy sticks to his word and names Stephen Fletcher in his line-up. Go figure.

Swansea XI: Vorm, N. Taylor, Caulker, Williams, Gower, Routledge, Sinclair, Britton, Richards, Lita, Moore (Subs: Tremmel, Bessone, Monk, Dyer, Agustien, Dobbie, Graham).

Fulham XI: Schwarzer, Kelly, Riise, Hangeland, Senderos, Davies, Dempsey, Etuhu, Johnson, Ruiz, Dembele (Subs: Etheridge, Briggs, Hughes, Frei, B Riise, Gecov, Sa).

Danny Graham is only fit enough to return to the Swansea bench so bargain striker Leroy Lita looks to lead from the front once more. The talk of Bobby Zamora in this morning’s news was correct – the big man has been left out of the Fulham side.

Norwich XI: Ruddy, Tierney, Whitbread, Martin, Naughton, Crofts, Surman, Fox, Hoolahan, Holt, Morison (Subs: Rudd, Barnett, Johnson, Pilkington, Bennett, Wilbraham, Jackson).

Newcastle XI: Krul; Santon, Simpson, Perch, R. Taylor; Gutierrez, Cabaye, Gosling, Obertan; Ba, Sh Ameobi (Subs: Elliot, Ferguson, Ben Arfa, Smith, Lovenkrands, Best, Sa Ameobi).

Norwich decide to combat Newcastle’s new defence -notably absent of both first choice centre backs- with the double pronged attack of Steve Morison and Grant Holt. Hatem Ben Arfa drops out to the bench for the visitors.

West Brom XI: Foster; Reid, McAuley, Olsson, Shorey; Brunt, Mulumbu, Morrison, Thomas; Odemwingie, Long (Subs: Fulop, Dawson, Jones, Scharner, Dorrans, Tchoyi, Cox).

Wigan XI: Al Habsi, Alcaraz, Caldwell, Stam, Figueroa, Moses, Gomez, McCarthy, Jones, Diame, Sammon. (Subs: Pollitt, Gohouri, McArthur, Maloney, Watson, Di Santo, Rodallega).

Peter Odemwingie is back in the West Brom starting line-up as he looks to get back into the form of last season. Wigan put out a team of footballers – Moses included. Last season’s final gameweek saviour Hugo Rodallega is on the bench.

Bolton XI: Jaaskelainen, Cahill, Robinson, Knight, Boyata, Pratley, Eagles, Davies, Sanli, Klasnic, Davies (Subs: Bogdan, Steinsson, Petrov, Muamba, Ngog, O’Halloran, Kakuta).

Villa XI: Guzan, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Hutton, Petrov, Herd, N’Zogbia, Albrighton, Bent, Agbonlahor (Subs: Marshall, Clark, Ireland, Bannan, Delfouneso, Heskey, Weimann).

After having his ban rescinded Gary Cahill “returns” to the Bolton line-up where Tuncay makes a rare appearance in the side. Brad Guzan and Marc Albrighton are two notable introductions for Aston Villa in this fixture.

Liverpool XI: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Skrtel, Agger, Adam, Henderson, Downing, Maxi, Kuyt, Suarez (Subs: Doni, Coates, Kelly, Carragher, Shelvey, Bellamy, Carroll).

QPR XI: Cerny, Traore, Ferdinand, Gabbidon, Young, Wright-Phillips, Faurlin, Barton, Mackie, Smith, Bothroyd (Subs: Putnins, Orr, Hill, Connolly, Derry, Buzsaky, Campbell).

No place for Andy Carroll this time at Anfield as Stewart Downing and Dirk Kuyt return for Liverpool. Heidar Helguson is a surprise absentee for the visitors with DJ Campbell fit enough to return to the bench.

Then we’ll be done. For now, between the hours of three and five o’clock there will be plenty to discuss in the Dugout Discussion as the goals rattle in.

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  1. Miro
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Surprisingly low scores from the overall leaders, except #1. I like the fact he had the balls to take out in-form Bale for Nani.

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  2. @ImpressiveTackl
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    So my 4 point hit went well...

    Aguero > Ba
    Drenthe > Nani

    Forgive me for thy gloat.

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      it has so far aguero has yet to play. For now I give you permission to grin like a cheshire cat 😛

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    2. Screaming Midget
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      I did Drenthe > Nani too.

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    3. Cyril Figgis
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      I did Aguero>Ba and Walters>Nani for 4 points myself 😀

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    4. Bubbles
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Niiiice. I am also going to gloat. 12 pointer:

      Hernandez, Ramsey, Vidic & Wilkinson OUT
      Ba, Nani(c), Enrique & Agger IN

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    5. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      My four point hit was not as good..
      Two free transfers:
      03 Dec 18:25
      Van der Vaart Out Moses (On Bench third sub)
      Drenthe Out Bale IN
      Warnock Out Vidic IN

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  3. Yxz
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Suaraz > Ba
    Ramsey > Nani

    2 Free Transfers

    Should I do them soon due to price rises. I will still have 1.1M in the bank so I could wait.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      wait, you've plenty of money for breathing space.

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    2. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Too late, the points have gone.

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      1. Le Bluff
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        Suarez scored y'know.

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    3. RÏɠBY
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      yus

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  4. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Vorm (Schwarcher)

    Jones, Enrique, Ward (Simpson, Gabbidon)
    Silva, DVD, Mata, Walters (Ferguson)
    RVP, Ba, Adebayor

    happy with my midfield and forwards (VDV or Mata may swap with Nani/Bale in next few weeks)

    Nnot fully happy with my defence though.
    I'm thinking of selling Ward to free up 5.3m to strength the defence a bit,

    Best defender under 5.3m?

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    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      N.Taylor maybe.. But only play him in home games.

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  5. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    59 points so far, with 3 left to play. How's everyone else doing?

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      33 with 4 to play and captain to move from Santos to RVP.

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      1. villian-ty
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        51 with 6 to play

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    2. Turbodog
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      60 with 4 to play and no Nani! My defence was awsome today = 30 points!

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      54 with 4 big hitters to go.

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    4. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      38 with 5 to go.

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    5. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      59 with four to play.

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    6. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      61 4 to play

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    7. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      67 and 3 to play

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    8. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      66 with 4 to play. and dyer's 2 mins has cost be moses' 10 points off bench. maybe i'm being greedy

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      1. Will
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        same-I'm actually hoping one of Bale/VDV doesn't make it tomorrow...

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    9. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      27 with ummm 7 to play

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  6. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Ramsey > Nani
    Brown > Caulker

    4 point hit

    SURELY?? 😉

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Do it

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    2. heartsattack
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Not Caulker. Look at Swans fixtures.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        nice score hearts

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        1. heartsattack
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks GD, hearts miss last minute penalty at parkhead. Gutted. Your lot could've done better today as well. Huns were there for the taking.

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      2. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I know, but what are the options for 4M or less

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        1. heartsattack
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          I'd prefer Wilkinson. If Nani isn't due to rise overnight I'd wait to see if he starts for stoke tomorrow. Not sure about QPR at the back but Gabbidon is 4 as well.

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  7. Le Bluff
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Guys, want some early opinions. Who's the best midfield prospect for 5.7? Jarvis, O'Hara or Eagles? Had been leaning towards O'Hara but with him now playing deeper, I'm thinking about Jarvis. And I'd rather not touch Eagles because Bolton are shocking!

    Thoughts?

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    1. don parcheesi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Why not someone even cheaper? Gower or Hoolahan or Pilkington

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      1. Le Bluff
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Will look into it! Thank you.

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  8. div
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    How is 42 points with Silva, Bale, VDV, Adebayor & Walters still to play?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Average on here, but better than the overall average I suspect.

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    2. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Not better than 39 with Adebayor, Bale, Mata, Brown, Kompany and Larsson to play, I hope.

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  9. Urban Cowboy.
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Playing my wildcard anyone think there will be any double risers? Maybe Ba or Vorm?

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    1. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Moses. 😉

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    2. Blind
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Why waste a wildcard to make 0.5m or so?

      People are too obsessed with value on here.

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      1. Urban Cowboy.
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Not doing it just for that, but might aswell try make a few bob if I can. Lot of dead wood need rid of. Already have moses 🙂

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        i doubt he is doing it just to make money

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    3. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nani.

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    4. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nain maybe...

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Nani*

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        1. Urban Cowboy.
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah was thinking that after today and maybe alot of people will switch Rooney in for Aguero

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  10. Blind
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Is the Sinclair goal an og or will he keep it?

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    1. gravless
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      It will be his.

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  11. RÏɠBY
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    henry coming back for arsenal?
    fantastic goal by VP http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmw8m7_evert10g4j9_latino

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    1. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      What a beauty! Alex Song is a very good player too

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      1. RÏɠBY
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        song is brilliant
        but a bit of a rotation risk

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        1. Henry Hill
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Don't see how he is a rotation risk, Arsenal have nobody fit to lace his boots until maybe Wilshere comes back

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    2. Daniyal
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      +1

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  12. Daniyal
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    just did brown --> BAE..................... i cant control myself to wait ........... anyways now i hv 3 spurs players bale,ade n BAE thoughts guys..............

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  13. Henry Hill
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Moses with 10 points and inevitable bonus to come sitting on my bench. Shiiiiiiiiit, hopefully Assou-Ekotto or Adebayor don't play tomorrow

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      likelyhood = 0

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      1. Henry Hill
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I have learnt my lesson and will start him from now until the end of the season!

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    2. RÏɠBY
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      fat chance 🙁

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  14. GreenWindmill
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Moses first choice sub and Dyer came on for a 2 minute 1 pointer. So, so disappointed!

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    1. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      ouch

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    2. Urban Cowboy.
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Was sitting sweating norwich for bring on Pilk but lucky escape

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      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Damn you - if I can't have the points noone should!

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        1. Urban Cowboy.
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Its the first week I let my faith waver, it shall never happen again. Looking forward to seeing a star next to his name now

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          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            It's already there! 😀

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  15. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I need Mata, Kompany and Brown to score more than 10 points or for Bale not to play to win my H2H

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    1. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Will be a close one.

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        the wolves goal might have saved it for me!

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    2. RÏɠBY
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      what's the story with bale and richards? they were fine yesterday.. bloody divas must have got a splinter or something

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  16. Slaps
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Right lads, need to get Ramsey out - which would be a better Idea :-
    Ramsey > O'hara
    Walker > Jones

    or just Ramsey > 6.8 mid?

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  17. gravless
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Bubbs - did you hold firm and capt. Nani?

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  18. Cruicky
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Bendtner to Ba done.

    Just a week too late...

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  19. div
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Got 1 FT & 1.5 in the bank, how can I improve any suggestions?

    Vorm
    Enrique, Jones, Raylor
    Silva, VDV, Walters, Bale
    RVP(c), Adebayor, Ba(vc)

    Ruddy, ShawX, Gabbidion, Ferguson

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    1. Laserface
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Team looks good for next week .. take out ferguson maybe

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      1. div
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Was thinking Ferguson > Gower or ShawX > Jags

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        1. div
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Or Bale > Nani

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  20. Dartsfan501
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Evening gents, still have my W/C to use so would you use it on this team

    Hart,Vorm
    Kompany,Enrique,Simpson,Brown,Jones
    Silva,VDV,Moses,Ses,O;Hara,
    VP,Ba,Ade

    Have one freebie aswell. Everyone in my league has used there W/C.

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    1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I think you have 9 you could keep (Vorm, Kompany, Simpson, Enrique,Silva, VDV, O'Hara, VP, Ba, Ade)

      If you could change Sess, Moses, and downgrade hart to free up funds, you would be ok.

      Does the wildcard have to be used up before Christmas?

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      1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        actually thats 10 you could keep!

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        1. RÏɠBY
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          no
          you can use it whenever

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      2. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        No it doesn't. Keep the wildcard, you'll appreciate it in Feb onwards.

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    2. Daniyal
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      no its good 1 FT is enough

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  21. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Welbeck or ba ??

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      ba

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  22. The Light Knight
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    does anyone think lampard will start tomorrow?

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    1. Daniyal
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      no 100% coz chelsea's match is not tomorow its on monday

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      1. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        wow hilarious thank you for that

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    2. Le Bluff
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Literally have no idea what AVB will do. They did well without him against Valencia, but surely you have to start him vs City. Although everyone said that when they needed a result against Valencia..

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Cech
        Bosingwa Ivanovic Terry Cole
        Ramires Romeu Meireles
        Sturridge Drogba Mata

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    3. Henry Hill
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      I would imagine not, they seem to play better without him

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  23. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Who's 2ns GK of Swan? Moreira or Tremmel?
    i want to free up the cash

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  24. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    When do automatic substitutions come in btw? Is it on Monday or something? Moses is waiting!

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    1. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      there are no substituations this week - read the rules!!

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    2. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      After all games have been played - you just have to mentally add the points onto your score until then!

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  25. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    rival on 77 pre bonus with 2 to play, gutted

    i tried to get nani at 11.29 and didnt get it saved!

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      procrastination tut tut

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    2. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bull

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    3. everyday, i'm shufflin…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      me too.. i got to "confirm transfer" button, pressed it, and .. boom updating.

      a bit disappointed, but i can only now hope VDV to do fantastically tomorrow.

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  26. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Bi up for Shane Ferguson who scored his first FPL point today. Came on in stoppage time!

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    1. Le Bluff
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Haha, hadn't noticed this! What a trooper.

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I'd laugh if someone captained him and put RVP vc

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  27. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    57 points with Mata, VDV, Aguero and ShawX to play. Annoyed I didn't captain Nani. Had him as captain all week, and after a few conversations on here, went back to the predictable RVP!

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  28. Sarnab
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Bonus Predictions::

    Arsenal vs everton.....rvp-3 vermaelon-2 fellaini/song-1 OC-baines
    bolton vs villa............petrov-3 klasnic 2 albrighton/kevin davies-1 OC-warnock
    liverpool vs qpr..........suarez-3 skrtl-2 johnson-1 OC-gabbidon,downing
    manU vs wolves.........nani-3 rooney-2 valencia-1
    norwich vs newcatle...holt-3 ba-2 morison-1 OC-cabaye,hoolahan
    swansea vs fulham.....sinclair-3 vorm-2 ruiz-1 OC-routledge
    wba vs wigan.............moses-3 reid-2 gomez-1

    OC stands for Outside Chnce

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      doubt cabaye has any chance with 4 goalscorers and being on losing team

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      1. Sarnab
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        he had 2/2 shots on target..yeah thats why OC.

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    2. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      look at that, moses maximum bonus points. What a day.

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    3. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I wish. That'd put me on 83 with 3 to play.

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    4. Daniyal
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      i hope ba doesn't get any i captained RVP my rival BA

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  29. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    When is ba off to ACON? As in what GWs has he left to play before departing? Can see chelsea or spurs signing him in the not too distant future, he really seems to be the genuine article

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    1. Somalion
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Could see Liverpool paying 35 million for him soon

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      1. Hate that rotation
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        that would be a kick in the teeth for the -£15M man.

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      2. Daniyal
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        + caroll

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      3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        A swap... Andy carroll + 15m for ba perhaps?

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    2. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ba has good fixtures until GW19 when Newcastle play Liverpool away then Man Utd at home the next week. He will be off to ACON around that time.

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    3. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      GW21.

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  30. villian-ty
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    51 with Brown, Kompany, Silva, VDV, Adebayor, Walters to play. In for a good score?

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    1. Nickyboy
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Let me think...

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    2. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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      not sure..

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      very disappointing.

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