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31 December 2011 3357 comments
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We see out 2011 with a programme of seven Premier League fixtures, after Gameweek 19 got under way last night with a 3-1 win for Liverpool over Newcastle. The Dugout Discussion opens for the final time this year, and the incoming team news from Old Trafford suggests that a certain Scot has begun his birthday celebrations a tad early…

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Rafael, Jones, Carrick, Evra, Nani, Valencia, Park, Welbeck, Hernandez, Berbatov.

Blackburn XI: Bunn, Lowe, Samba, Hanley, Pedersen, Henley, Nzonzi, Petrovic, Rochina, Formica, Yakubu.

Sir Alex Ferguson, who turns 70 today, names a peculiar looking side for the second game running. Given United’s 5-0 drubbing of Wigan last time out, who are we to question his selection? However, eyebrows will be raised at the exclusion of Wayne Rooney from the matchday squad, after only featuring for half an hour on Boxing Day.

Phil Jones returns from illness to partner Michael Carrick in defence rather than midfield. Nani and Antonio Valencia play in midfield behind a trio or strikers, leaving Ji Sung Park to man the middle of the park.

As for Steve Kean’s side, injuries to both Junior Hoilett and David Dunn (surprise, surprise), mean Radosav Petrovic and Ruben Rochina start. After his heroics at Anfield, Mark Bunn continues in goal.

After that we’ve five 3pm fixtures, and no evening game allows us to be unfashionably on time for our New Year’s shindigs. This is my last post of 2011, so I wish you all a Happy New Year! See you in 2012!

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  1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Any news on the extent of Vermaelens injury? I had pretty much decided on Walters to Drenthe as Stoke have two away games next, but Verms injury may force me to reconsider and get Jags in.

    Any help / advice much appreciated.

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    1. DGno9
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      vermaelen's out for 2-3 weeks with a calf strain...

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Wenger the new SAF..said Djorjou will be out for 3 weeks , came back in 3 days..

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    2. dopey1
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Out for 2-3 weeks.

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    3. fredwestham
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      2-3weeks according to Wenger...

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    4. OPTA FPL
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      read last page.

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    5. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      Balls. Cheers guys. Jagielka the obvious replacement or should I get cash for Baines / look elsewhere?

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      1. udit
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        baines would be better

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        1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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          Worth a hit tho?

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          1. udit
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            depends who out for whom.

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    6. Kanus hat trick
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      Back for Man Utd game hopefully. Blow to lose him for any time though

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  2. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Scout picks so far -
    _
    1
    1
    0
    1
    1
    _
    2
    0
    6
    2

    Total- 14 with 2 to go..

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      13 - Terry got 0.

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      1. Laserface
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Oh,my bad !!

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    2. Hate that rotation
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      So Odemwingie and Johnson gonna smash it tomorow.

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  3. ejpt123
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    silva to vdv
    or rooney or rvp to ade?
    already got bale, walker and osman

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  4. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Haha! Love it Andy T. Get in!

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  5. kaz 96
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    ok now wenger, time to sign a LB or time for coquelin to go in there and keep our bank balanced?

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    1. Djerbil
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Wenger has already asked Gio Van Bronchkorst if he wants to return..

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  6. shredder
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Evenin all. Did BAE make it through today uninjured ?

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      except for his pride, yes, seemingly fit still

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    2. A.
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      Yup, and baged an assist 😉

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      1. Very good manager
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        will he get bonus ?

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    3. Rojo's Modern Life
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

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      1. shredder
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        Great. Cheers

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    4. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      yup and bagged an assist....

      from my bench

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  7. RevsFC
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Everton will be playing Tottenham while Landon is on loan there. How awesome would it be if landycakes puts one past Freidal just, what, three weeks after Freidal called him a sellout?

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      But seriously why doesnt donovan play in the prem?

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      1. Hate that rotation
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        IMO Dempsey way better than donovan.

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        1. RevsFC
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          I think playing for Leverkusen and Bayern Munich really left a bitter taste for European soccer, which is why he went back to America at all. He has been accused of wanting to be a big fish in a little pond. That isn't fair. He wants to be the center of attention yes, but he doesn't want easy competition. Its why he leaps at the opportunity to play in the PL for Everton but continues to play in the MLS.

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      2. The Artist
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        seriously?

        southern california versus ummm liverpool. london, at best.

        real tough choice there.

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        1. RevsFC
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          he kind of hinted at that when people asked him why he stayed in LA to play for the Galaxy.

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Why did he call him a sell-out?

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      1. Hate that rotation
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        He plays in MLS when he could have played in Europe/prem. He is heralded as US best player but never really tested himself in europe.

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          I love Friedel, but that's a pretty dumb thing to say. Surely leaving your own country to play abroad for much bigger wages is more of a sell-out?

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          1. Hate that rotation
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Donovan gets a good amount in US. He is the poster boy. His salary at everton would not match what he gets in US. But more importantly he is plays safe by playing in America. Look at dempsey, playing with the big boys.

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            1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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              Pele never played in Europe either.

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              1. Hate that rotation
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                True that.

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        2. RevsFC
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          14 years, 4 months ago

          he went to the prem and he did better on, lets be honest, a pretty mediocre team. He's tested himself and came out player of the month while he was there. That criticism is long since been debunked and laid to rest. But he's going to prove all the doubters wrong again. Like usual. Anyone forget the Algeria goal or the roofer against Slovenia?

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      2. RevsFC
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        The question asked of him was why is it that Donovan is so well known compared to Dempsey despite playing a smaller league. Freidal made a pretty fair criticism in saying he is more notorious because icons are more sponsored driven in soccer in the States, which is true considering the smaller slice of media attention it gets. What got him in trouble was an ending comment he made "So yea, i guess you could say he took the easy road".

        Landon left his mom and sister at 16 to play for one of the most prestigious clubs in Germany. Freidal "took the easy road" when he quit the national team because he didn't want to put the effort in to beat out Howard.

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        1. Hate that rotation
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          All Im saying is , is get donovan in the prem full time. Play here for the next 3-4 years and go toe to toe with the big boys everyweek. Donovan is a good player which is why he should be playing here or europe. Forget money or weather. Just test yourself at the highest level consistently playing. Its what seperates the good players from the best players.

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  8. PGR
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    is silva likely to fall tonight? Should i bring in vdv for silva right away? And is VDV even likely to start both games?

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  9. halnone
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    horrible horrible week.
    18 points with 3 to go. I don't remember ever having a gameweek this bad.

    but at least united lost.

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    1. RevsFC
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      always a good day when Man U get embarrassed like that.

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    2. heartsattack
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      You're not alone. 19 after Simpson sub with Silva to go. rVP only chance of bonus.

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  10. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    could go mental and bring in drenthe, osman, vdv (already have bale) but that would mean subbing out silva which I am not really happy with

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  11. rejects 11
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Ireland a must have. Lol

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      After that shisha incident he plays and scores!?

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  12. Very good manager
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Bonus point predictions for stoke-wigan tottenham-swansea and arsenal-QPR?? my cup game is depending on it!!

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    1. "The Special One"
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      Who knows.

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      walters 3bps
      jerome 2bps
      moses 1bp

      sinclair 3bps
      vdv 2bps
      ekotto 1bp

      rvp 3bps
      arteta 2bps
      faurlin 1bp

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    3. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      3-Walters
      2-Moses

      3-vdv
      2-bae
      1-fredial

      3-rvp
      2-arteta

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  13. Rojo's Modern Life
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    As a VDV owner, to all Bale knee-jerkers... Haha

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    1. jguti14
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      u wiont be saying that next GW

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      1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        Why?? Bale does f all while vdv plays

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        1. jguti14
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          14 years, 4 months ago

          yea he only got 16 last week u duck

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        2. heartsattack
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          What complete and utter BS.

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      i'm still happy with Bale

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      1. Bungalow Bill
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        since I did that switch:
        VDV 21 pts
        Bale 23 pts
        … I rest my case

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  14. Ismail
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    i have bale,ade,friedel and hibbert
    have 2 ft so which 2 everton players should i bring in?

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      osman, drenthe

      or donovan, osman

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    2. ChiefMockingBird
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      none, they will lose the second game

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  15. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Vorm
    Jones Shotton BAE
    Silva Nani Walters Bale(v)
    Ade(C) RVP Ba

    Given Enrique Simpson Dyer

    0.4 in bank?

    Play Shotton or Enrique?
    Ade or Bale capt?
    Who to get for Ba? Sturridge? Agbon? Bellamy?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Or even helguson, why didnt he play today?

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      1. mgrea
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        I would too like to know this.

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  16. tevezthetroll
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Would you captain Bale or Ade for the DGW?

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    1. Andy
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Would you captain anyone else?

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      1. Andy
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        Probably too much of a gamble really... I'd probably. Actually, I dunno. Hadn't started thinking about that.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Baines?

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    2. PGR
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ade

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    3. David Davros
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      This is the big question!

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      1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 16 Years
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        Vdv

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        1. David Davros
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Not interested personally. Kept faith with him for too long. Blows too hot and cold and not that assured of gametime.

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  17. udit
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    the old bandwagons have really redeemed themselves over the last few weeks haven't they? moses, nzogbia, even bent I suppose, well atleast they have got something

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    1. David Davros
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ireland getting in on it today too!

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      1. udit
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        true

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      2. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Gerrard..

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  18. Locarno
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone see the Wigan game? It looks like Wigan were awarded the pen, Watson was subbed on and then he took the pen. Bit cheeky - it's not American football.

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    1. dopey1
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      What's wrong with that though?

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        It means you can sit a specialist penalty taker on your bench, and throw him on if you get a late spot-kick.

        I didn't realise you could make substitutes between the time the penalty is awarded and taken.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Neither did I.

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        2. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I don't think you can before a shoot out ie after the final whistle, but otherwise it's fine. Keepers get subbed on all the time before a pen if the other keeper is sent off.

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah, they were talking about special teams on Sky.

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    3. Ismail
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      nothing wrong with that

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    4. Hate that rotation
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Lol. I bet Moses was creeping forward with the ball. Martinez was not having that. Watson get the f*ck on NOW.

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    5. IamIronMike
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Yea that's exactly what happened.

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    6. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Hasn't Watson missed 2 this season though?

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  19. jguti14
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    anybody have an idea about the pecking order for CBs in spurs....dont know what defender to bring, only have 5.2 to spend so I was thinking going either king or gallas....

    i think harry said king will be good for next GW

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    1. Andy
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      When fit, it is as such...

      King > Dawson > Gallas > Kaboul > The rest of them - Charlie, Bassong, etc.

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      1. jguti14
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        has harry mentioned anything about king starting next game...i can afford him

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      2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Not so sure about Kabouls position in that list, think her be higher up after his good sustained run of form.

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  20. rangerdad
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone know if Sturridge subbed off for injury or just being crap today ?

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Crap

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Crap, like he was last week. I sense a benching coming up.

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I bought him in so he did crap. Had him 4 weeks this season and he's got me 6 points.

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  21. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    PMSL I never thought i'd see the day I'd be hoping Silva gets no pitch time so Moses can come into my XI. Strange gw

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  22. sale un chacho fc
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Is Kaboul a sure starter with Dawson in bench?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      no

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Kaboul, King, Dawson and Gallas contending 2 spots

      King is #1, Dawson probably #2, and judging from Applebonkers' (if memory serves me) analysis, Kaboul is probably 3rd choice (but also cover for right back if Walker needs a rest or drops his standards further)

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  23. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    With Verm out for 2-3 weeks he will definitely miss the next game, probably miss Swansea away and be back for Man U at home, which is not a fixture you want defenders in. I'm left with only 2 defenders I'm happy to play GW20. With this is mind and the DGW I'm thinking this is one of those rare cases where a 4 point hit for a defender is worth it. Have 3 Spurs and .2 off getting Baines so I think I'll be getting Jags and be left with 2m teasing me in the bank. Opinions?

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Get jags or bae

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    2. David Davros
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I got rid now, but that has been the plan since I bought him - regardless of injury.

      It was great to have him because you always felt he might score, but honestly losing Kompany for him was a massive error and one that has cost me a fair bit.

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I brought him in after his big haul a few weeks back. Started well with a CS against Everton but 1 goal conceded every game since (bar today of course) and loads of near misses. I was thinking before today that I should have brought Kompany back instead of getting Verm.

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    3. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah I think I'm going to do Vermaelen to Baines for a 4 point hit. It's not ideal but if Verm is injured I haven't got much choice. Baines should at least repay the 4 point hit with the dgw.

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    4. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Dammit Verm, what an awful day.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        +42. Didn't have Vermaelen though, thank goodness. Dear, oh dearie me! 😐

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  24. miguelseven
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I seem to have forgotten the two golden rules for this season. 🙁

    1. Always captain RVP
    2. Always play Vorn

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Captain RVP next GW then, I dare you.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        he might score an hat-trick when he is subbed in against fulham!! 🙂

        and bale/ade just score one goal in one of the match

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    2. jguti14
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      i also forgot the first rule...had a good couple gameweeks , got cocky and thought i would try my chances with nani...i have learnt

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    3. Very good manager
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      always always captain RVP im probably out of the cup because of it...

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  25. hanboyan
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Has anyone already noticed that the ffmanager currently with most points scored 40. BUT, he has -44 points because he took 11 hits!!! See the link: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/2663328/event-history/19/ (I hope it works. If not the name of the team is "The Gamblers")

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    1. Bungalow Bill
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      he played his wildcard this week, that explains it … I think

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Its a joke team designed to get 1st place in the world last night. A few posters on here tried it.

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  26. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone think Assou-Ekotto will get a bonus? 🙂

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      1bp

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    2. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, chaps. Struggling quite a lot. 🙂

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      I ruddy hope not cos he is on my bench 🙁

      experiment evans and then shotton failed, must stop making so many defensive transfers

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  27. Andy
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I have to sell one of RVP or Rooney, this'll be fun.

    I honestly don't think RVP will start at Fulham but I'm at my wits end with the fat one... guess I shouldn't be silly and keep the more expensive and less risky one but, eugh, meh. Fantasy football, eh? Bloody hell.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Errr - why don't you sell Nani?

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      1. Andy
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Because Emmanuel Adebayor is a striker. And I didn't say I'm not.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Swap him for Sturridge, I would.

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    2. Manani
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      good luck.

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    3. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Dump Rooney

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  28. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I am on 26 ? With Silva to come
    What's your score ?

    Need to find out average...

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      29 with company silva drenthe To play

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  29. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    nani or silva to vdv? - already got bale

    vdv usually goes on great runs...

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  30. "The Special One"
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Chances of drenthe nt playing 2moro??

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    1. Andy
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Low. He'll get on the pitch.

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      1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Why??

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