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3 January 2012 2169 comments
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The cameras will be down at the Etihad Stadium but our thoughts will certainly be focused on events at White Hart Lane as Spurs play their first of two gameweek fixtures carrying the hopes and armbands of many Fantasy managers. The Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the joy and pains at the Lane as they happen.

The team news finds Rafael Van der Vaart, Emmanuel Adebayor and the heavily backed Gareth Bale safely nestled in Harry Redknapp’s lineup. Scott Parker’s absence leads to a shift to 4-4-2 though, with Jermain Defoe up front with Adebayor – that may well prove to be significant given the recent success of Bale and Van der Vaart in the 4-3-3, only time will tell. What we do know is that Spurs are up against an injury ravaged West Brom side, without the likes of Chris Brunt, Shane Long, Jonas Olsson and Youssouf Mulumbu; Graham Dorrans, Craig Dawson, Simon Cox and George Thorne all start for Roy Hodgson’s men.

Elsewhere tonight, City face Liverpool, while Wigan take on Martin O’Neill’s Sunderland. The most significant news from the team-sheets in that one is that Roberto Martinez appears to have rested Victor Moses to the bench, despite his recent form. Sunderland meanwhile, have Kieran Richardson back in their lineup. He comes in for Seb Larsson, the latest to be struck down by the Black Cats’ virus – nasty stuff clearly.

There’s no Luis Suarez at City tonight, as reported earlier, the Uruguayan starts his eight-match ban with immediate effect. Bizarrely, Kenny Dalglish goes into the game without Craig Bellamy, electing to bring Dirk Kuyt into his starting lineup in place of the Welshman; Steven Gerrard is once again on the bench. As expected, City bring back the big guns – David Silva, Sergio Aguero, Gael Clichy, James Milner and Micah Richards all make returns.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. GKEF
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    Silva's not that good though..

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
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      +1

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      lol

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    3. Tim Canterbury
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      na not really only player of the year material. just ordinary.

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  2. For Fuchs Sake
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    I would like a goal for Liverpool now, my rival has Kompany. I'm not supporting racism though.......

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    1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      me to, my rival has Silva and Richards

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  3. tevezthetroll
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    Hands up who thinks Jose Enrique is pretty average and the masses put him in their team based on his reasonable value and the fact he is at Liverpool. He belongs in Average Joe's Gym and I will personally be paying for his membership in the New Year.

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    1. Says
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      Nailed on starter to one of the best defences in the league for 5.0m and he's always in with a chance of an assist. What's not to like?

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    2. The Finnisher
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      You really are stupid, just shh.

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    3. samcro
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      Disagree. I rated him at Newcastle and still do. Definitely one of the better left backs in the league.

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    4. Hate that rotation
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      He was a bargain at 5.0 at the start and he did well for me.

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    5. jamsiep
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      He's no Assou-Ekotto, but yeah, he's solid enough.

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
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        The most douchy picture ever.

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    6. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Liverpool have a solid defence. Who is the cheapest in their defence? Enrique is the answer, that is why he is so popular.

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    7. OPTA FPL
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      who's better LB?

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      1. DRIZ ✅
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        patrice

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      2. tevezthetroll
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        Evra, A.Cole, BAE and Kolarov are all better left-backs.

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          😆

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    8. tevezthetroll
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      It's my story and i'm sticking to it. He doesn't get forward like he used to and very few assists. So you are basically relying on a Liverpool CS and I think there will be less and less of them. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

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    9. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Thinking of getting rid in my WC. Rather get 3 cheapies and pay extra for Jones and double him up with Kompany to be honest with ye.

      I doubt we'll see a Jenny assist all season long.

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      1. tevezthetroll
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        Finally some sensible input. Cheers Nomar. I have Jones and Kompany is who i'm gonna get instead.

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      2. NATSTER
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        I've been waiting so long for his assist and.. too long. He's good but I'm considering to not keep him in my WC team too.

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  4. iCon
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    Anyone notice that Ba has nearly 2k transfers IN today? 😳

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    1. SPorting
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      casual players riding a bandwagon who don't know he's off to ACON soon?

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  5. jamsiep
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    lololololoooololololooolololololololoollolollool @ Silva owners who kept him for the last 5 weeks.

    See, I can be immature too.

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    1. AP
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      #Rattled

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      1. jamsiep
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        Don't really mind to be honest. My team is doing well enough this week without him, Liverpool are losing and United's chances of winning the league are slipping..

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        1. AP
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          lol aye 3 points behind in january. I don't think we'll ever recover from this set back.

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          1. jamsiep
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            'Chances' was the wrong word, in reality you have no chance.

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            1. AP
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              You seem to be mistaking Utd with Chelsea.

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    2. FF Dirtbag
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      >cries< oh well at least my pain is soothed by todays events.

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    3. Chewy Toffee
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      You, sir, are a natural! 😉

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    4. Tim Canterbury
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      5? its only been 3 weeks since he scored

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  6. DRIZ ✅
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    so, how is everyone who took out SILVA and see it failing 😀

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      over 25k transfer out = Silva dropped 0.1M this week!

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    2. McDog
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      I'm quite happy about it actually.

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    3. SPorting
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      fine thanks.

      don't believe in "season keepers" really. just play from week to week and pick the best (i think) are available.

      no harm done to get him back in my WC, if he earns a place.

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      1. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        ^ Captain Sensible

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        1. SPorting
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          at last, some Happy Talk....

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          1. tangtastic
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            The interwebs can bring out the worst in people

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            1. SPorting
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              f*ck you and your interweb rants!

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            2. SPorting
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              woo hoo hoo

              😀

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              1. tangtastic
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                ARGHhjshdSJDaksjLKKss..!!11!!111!!!!

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                1. SPorting
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                  😆

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        2. The Pink Panzer strikes aga…
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          Agree agree

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    4. Shatner's Bassoon
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      To be fair he hasn't scored much lately so it's quite possible people are happy with it. Having done Silva>Mata I am not one of these people 😛

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  7. Holy See
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    I hate Kompany. What a git.

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    1. AP
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      He's an absolute man mountain. Only City player i like (actually Silva too thinking about it).

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      1. Hate that rotation
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        You disgust me. 🙂

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      2. @ImpressiveTackl
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        *Points* Closet City Fan!!!

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      3. Syd.
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        Your've gotta like Mario too 😉

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      4. AP
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        Sorry chaps but i will not repent.

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      5. Holy See
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        If I had Kompany in my team, I should complain little. He truly is City's Northern Star. But I don't have him. So he's a git.

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  8. @ImpressiveTackl
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    Can we stop the childish posts with manic laughter at people who transferred Silva out? Cheers.

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    1. applebonkers
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      +1

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I have to admit, it is starting to hurt my feelings.

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    3. Smarty Pants
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      Unfortunately, there are too many children on here.

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    4. 4vets
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      +1

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
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        You transferred silva out !!!! LMAO hahaha

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  9. xtina
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    Somehow put Silva on the bench this week :'(

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    1. For Fuchs Sake
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      Who did you play ahead of him you crazy fool?

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    2. Feanor
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      Maybe Drenthe will miss both games. 🙂

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      Drenthe might save you.

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    4. CatMac
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      You did too 😳

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        😯 Blimey!!!

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        1. CatMac
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          Ha, that's the smiley I meant MMW, I'll get the hang of it one day 😀

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  10. tevezthetroll
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    Vincent Kompany. Best Defender in the PL.

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    1. jamsiep
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      Koscielny.

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      1. Microcuts
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        Evans

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      2. OPTA FPL
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        Mertersaker

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        1. Goonther
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          mertasacker???? bahhh

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      3. Dirty Dhalsim
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        +1. Hero.

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      4. The Bandit
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        Not JT Cahill?

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    2. Hate that rotation
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      Vidic straight up.

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    3. AP
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      Indeed. After Vidic. And Jones.

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      1. Feanor
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        Vidic gives away too many fouls, cards and penalties.

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    4. jas5sk - Youtube channel
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      ...No...Just no

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    5. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Vidic

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    6. DRIZ ✅
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      vidic is a beast. gets bonus points for the fun of it.

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        King.

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        1. Le Gooner
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          Strangely, I agree.

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        2. AP
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          Not a bad shout. With good knees he'd be no.1 without question imo.

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          1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
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            could say the same thing about Woody

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    7. Mulder
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      Terry.

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    8. Chewy Toffee
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      Tony Hibbert!

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    9. @ImpressiveTackl
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      He's like chocolate.

      Belgian.

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    10. jas5sk - Youtube channel
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      People are forgetting that Woodgate used to 'play' for Real Madrid. He's the greatest of all time!

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    11. Random_Guy
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      John Terry.

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  11. DRIZ ✅
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    silva âž¡ bale. our survey says>

    uh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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    1. SPorting
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      oh dear. you really are dining out on this, aren't you?

      do you even have Silva?

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      1. DRIZ ✅
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        lol this the last one, yeah i have him, had since the start.

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        1. SPorting
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          any other survivors?

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
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      My word. The matches are still going.

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  12. Scratch
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    Downing really is a pile of sh!te. Probably worse than Ashley Young.

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      both from Aston Villa

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  13. I hate Craig Gardner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    Well that's the Al-Habsi cleansheet ruined. Cheers Craig, you've thwarted me again!

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    1. djman102
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      +1 So much for "go with the home keeper" (benched Vorm)

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    2. Holy See
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      He'll do that.

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    3. GunsnRoses
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      Same pinch ! Even I played Al Hasbi over Vorm as did not want to double up on Swans. Had taylor with a clean sheet ...

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  14. Turbodog
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    Which would you rather:
    Valencia & Ade
    or
    Rooney & Moses/Dyer rotation ?

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    1. Guinney
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      at the moment Valencia and Ade

      When Rooney hits form he can bring in great points, but at the moment I think the top 2 our better options

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    2. 7923dos
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      Over the season Rooney won't come close to justifying his price tag, for short bursts however he can be brilliant (see earlier in season)

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  15. som3awy
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    So, who was getting rid of Silva? lol

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      they cant bring him back now !

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      and are they gonna bring him back in lol

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      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        No we're not.

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        1. jimnastics
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Come GW24 when you look at City's fixtures, you'll be doing whatever you can to bring him back in.

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          1. Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
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            Aguero and Richards. I'm not paying 10.5m for a player I won't captain.

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            1. Captain Shirokov
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              Exactly.

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            2. The Finnisher
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              In other words;
              "I didn't get him for 9.5" or "I sold him earlier and can't get him back"

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            3. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              Not sure of the hatred for captaining Silva - done it a couple of times this season and not regretted it. Can't say the same about Nani!!

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  16. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
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    as it stands aguero is getting 9 and silva 10, so how about laughing at aguero sellers, spread the hate yeah?

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    1. Holy See
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      Ah but who'd be stupid enough to do that. Surely nobody. Fixture proof etc.

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    2. Damo.
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      Got rid last week with Jones for Rooney and BAE. Not looking too bad a transfer at the mo. He is terrible for points away from home.

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      You can't spread it - it clumps up ... ðŸ™

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  17. super zlatan
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    Any half time subs at spurs match?

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    1. applebonkers
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      nah

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  18. Anorak
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    No changes for Spurs.

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    1. JWF
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      Looking very tired tonight. Team looks sluggish and lacking energy. Think the recent cluster of games has caught up with the team.

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      1. Anorak
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        With lots of teams - don't think anyone has looked sprightly over Christmas tbf.

        Agree the squad is a little thin atm, but not worried yet. Everyone else has dropped points so far this Christmas.

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        1. JWF
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          We don't rotate enough. The only changes to our first 11 are when we have an injury. Having said that we've picked up at least as many points as our closest rivals recently so it's all good at the moment... but really need the three points tonight.

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          1. Anorak
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            Agree with the rotation. Europa is one thing, but the likes of Rose, Townsend, Carroll need PL game time to develop. Surprised we haven't seen more of them in games that are won (not here).

            Harry feels the pressure to win, and stick with what he nows by the looks of it.

            At least we'll see some blood in the cup on Sat.

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  19. davysteen
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    Liverpool need a triple substitution at ht..
    Kuyt Henderson and spearing off and maxi gerrard and bellamy on..

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    1. doncastro
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      And yea...how on earth did Bellamy not start

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      1. Scratch
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        He's had a chronic knee problem for years, he can't handle starting matches in quick succession.

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  20. doncastro
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    Any else make a mistake and leave Enrique in? I breezed through it and forgot i had him starting when i left it be ðŸ™

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    1. Interfan9
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      Count me in on that mistake. I have Caulker on my bench with 5 points just taunting me too!

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      1. doncastro
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        Same ðŸ™

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    2. jimnastics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      No you didn't, you played him ahead of Caulker and Simpson because you thought he had a better chance of a cleansheet. Why do people come on here with this sh*t, trying blame choices on mistakes / accidents?

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      1. doncastro
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        No JIm you retard. Swansea had a better chance of cleansheet then Liverpool playing Man City away. Youre the one talking shit

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  21. sotothemightygreek
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    American soccer punditry. Cringe-worthy.

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  22. Goonther
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    bale back out wide.....look out!

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    1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
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      who's in your avatar mate?

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      1. Goonther
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        gf

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        1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
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          hehe, lucky u!!

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    2. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
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      Good move. West Brom packed the midfield first half and it was congested in the middle.

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  23. DRIZ ✅
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    any have foster? looking good so far.

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  24. don parcheesi
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    Any stats junkies know [of a site that tracks] the break down of total first-half goals vs. total second-half goals this season?

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    1. Chewy Toffee
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      optastats I think?

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  25. Chewy Toffee
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    Anyone here got Sky Go? Worth it or just another drainage of money?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      i have it due to sky subscription. dont really use it though.

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    2. Holy See
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      Skygo costs nothin does it? Have Sky Sports, just install skygo on laptop so you can watch PL while your daughter watches Dora. Unless I'm unaware of somethin. This would not be unusual.

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  26. Scratch
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    With the blonde dyed hair Defoe reminds me of Borat's wife.

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    1. Jack Frost
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      The priest in Detective Dee and the Phantom Flame. Dead ringer right down to the shade of blonde.

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  27. Mr. Mystic
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    So... who's your money on to do something next?

    ADE or BALE? dun dun dun...

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  28. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
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    When will bloody Ruddy go up? I swear this git has been on 90 odd percent to go up for forever. Need the price rise to get me a real price increase and I can ditch him using my WC.

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  29. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
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    VDV for Nani before last GW = MASSIVE FAIL

    Silva > Bale = MASSIVE FAIL

    anyone got a worse 2 transfers than me?

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    1. Goonther
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      silva > rooney 2 GW's ago

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  30. GreenWindmill
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
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    I've got Silva and even I'm starting to hope he misses a penalty, scores an own goal then gets sent off just to shut up all the gloating morons on this site. 🙄

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      its not gloating, its making the right decision. 🙂

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      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        No, keeping him was making the right decision, relentlessly banging on about it afterwards is gloating.

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        1. No Luck
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          It is pretty funny though

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        2. No Luck
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          14 years, 4 months ago

          The people who transfered out Silva

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          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Drizzy got owned. But GO SILVA HAAHAAA

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