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With a goalscoring record that boasted 37 goals in 65 games in the Bundesliga, Papiss Cisse’s arrival in Tyneside prompted mixed emotion from Fantasy managers. Demba Ba’s outstanding form this season had seen him established as the spearhead in Alan Pardew’s attack, with the former West Ham man emerging as a superb Fantasy prospect in the mid-price bracket.

There was understandable concern that, despite their relationship up front for Senegal, Cisse’s arrival would change the climate and possibly lead to a decline in Ba’s fortunes, dividing Fantasy managers between the established Premier League striker and the potentially explosive newcomer.

Using the Opta data available to members and our own ICT index, we take a step back and examine the stats and performances of the two Newcastle strikers so far – assessing the potential of the pairing, the impact on Ba and the merits of the possible switch to his cheaper strike partner.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Attila the Bum
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    "Tiote was rested in training but should be fine, Cisse and Ba fit Shola is a doubt "he's a worry for us"

    Alan Pardew at conference. Via Lee Ryder on Twitter (excellent source)

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    1. Jukesy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Perfect. Set for Ba and Cisse to start against Sunderland?

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Should think so.

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  2. COMH
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    When Spurs fixtures get nice again is Dawson worth having?

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    1. hvsauce
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      He might be. It's just tough to say with King being a 'wait-and-see' almost every week you know?

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I have him and have been lucky with his playing time for now. He plays when I need him. But he is 5.2m risk u know

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        1. hvsauce
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          yeah good point. if you have enough cover with your other 4 defenders then dawson is a good pick.

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  3. HappyAnkit
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    REPOST-
    My Team-
    Krul, Lindy
    R Taylor, Richards, Shotton, Kelly, Caulker
    Silva, Bale, Dempsey, McClean, Sess
    RVP, Ba, Aguero

    Have 2FT & 1.3 m in bank
    Sess> ?
    Suggest the Starting XI, Bench Order, (C) & (VC).

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    1. An Púca
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      can I have your logon name and password also please!!!

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      1. HappyAnkit
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Name-*************************
        Password-************

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    2. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone?

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    3. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Tough really, very tough, I'd get in nani somehow but I don't see any pressing transfer for this week, get rid of shotton.

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      1. HappyAnkit
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Sess will out this week for sure.
        Why to get rid of Shotton?
        I won't get Nani because I"ll get Liverpool players next GW.

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    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Get in Pilkington save the other transfer.

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    5. Jukesy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Sess -> Miyaichi, then have bench as Lindy; Kelly, Miyaichi, Shotton

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      1. Jukesy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Aguero C too.

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    6. gad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Krul
      Kelly Richards Shotton
      Silva Dempsey(VC) Bale McC/Sess
      RvP Ba Aguero(C)

      McC/Sess, Caulker, Taylor

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      1. HappyAnkit
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        R Taylor last sub?

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    7. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks All.
      Still not sure what to do.
      Will ask again after an hour or so. 🙂

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  4. fredwestham
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I think that I'm going to rid myself of valencia for a couple of weeks...I'd have 8.1m to spend...I'm considering Morrison,Moses,Pedersen,Siggurdson...who is the best choice?or have I missed any better options...?

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    1. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I just swapped him for Adam. But that doesnt help you much. Sorry.

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      1. fredwestham
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Haha...no it doesn't 🙂

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Pure punt time - Henderson, Maxi R?

          Other than that its a pig in the poke. Lots of choices, no obvious candidates though.

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      2. The Stock
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Reckon he'll get the playing time?

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Adam? Yeah should do. Especially given Gerrards not fully fit.

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      3. Loooser
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        for Adam?. I did Bale - Adam.

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    2. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Taarabt, 18 attempts (8 on target) in last 3 GWs. Only one assist so far but I expect BIG returns soon.

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  5. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    RP!

    RMT for this week please.

    Hart
    Skrtel / G.Johnson / Kompany
    Bale / Dempsey (c) / Mata / McClean
    Rooney / Aguero (vc) / Ba

    Mignolet / Surman / Evans / Santon

    Any thoughts welcome?

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    1. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone???

      Roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooll up! Rooooooooooooooooooooooooooool up!

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      1. Jukesy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Santon ahead of Evans on the bench, but I don't think that'll make a difference. I'd have Aguero C too.

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        1. Smurf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks.

          Again, I know its risky but I really have a gut feeling about Dempsey this week. I had the armband firmly on Aguero all week until last night and thought it was worth the risk. Hoping for another game like the Newcastle one 🙂

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    2. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      😯 Why are you playing both Glenn & Skrtel this week?

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      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Don't get me wrong I agree its risky but im pretty sure Evan & Santon will concede and Liverpool may jus keep Arsenal out. Also I think with all 4 not very stong contenders for a CS Skrtel & GJ have a better chance of attacking returns, especially Skrtel with Arsenals poor defending of set pieces.

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  6. MrJefferson
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    i have 2 free transfers, i want to use them to get rid of lindy and need to downgrade someone to bring in rooney with next weeks transfer, on the other hand should i be using them to load up on dgw players? would it be madness going int dgw with no dgw players??

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    1. JT's Dog
      14 years, 4 months ago

      not madness, just slightly risky

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      1. MrJefferson
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        how many would you need to avoid a big drop in rankings do you think?

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        1. JT's Dog
          14 years, 4 months ago

          IMO liverpool may only get one CS, and not many goals so I reckon worst case scenario is maybe 6-12 points loss if no players, so if taking a hit I am not sure if worth it. But could be good to have at least one pool defender in long run

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    2. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Depends. If your planning to have Liverpool cover for their good run, then I would reccomed getting them in by GW 28. If you would only want them for the DGW then I wouldn't bother. Lindy is a priority as I think even when he recovers to full fitness that De Gea will stay first choice.

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  7. Ferris Bueller
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    For this GW would you play Enrique (ARS) or Evans (tot)? Cheers

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    1. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Enrique

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    2. shirtless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Play the man at home. If RVP doesn't play then Goons could struggle to score...?

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    3. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I have a RMT above and am playing BOTH Skrtel & G.Johnson over Evans (as risky as that is) so id say Enrique.

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  8. fcn
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    any one for Johnson ?

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    1. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Glen.............Yes!

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      1. fcn
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        gonna be starter ?? I'm wondering if it's not...

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        1. Smurf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          what does that sentence mean?

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          1. fcn
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            means will be one of the 11 startup line.. 🙂

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    2. JT's Dog
      14 years, 4 months ago

      abby?

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      1. fcn
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        yeah loool 😛

        no I'm talking about Adam

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  9. 1mills
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Hmmm.

    Was thinking about taking a hit but all of my doubts are players I'm keeping anyway, so may just have to take risk of getting 11 players out.

    Doubts are

    RVP, Bale, Kelly

    Sess hopefully should be back

    Richards, Dzeko are rotation risks and the two I am thinking of moving long term, but quite fancy both to get some gametime this weekend.

    Need 3 of the 6 to play to get 11 players out.

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    1. JT's Dog
      14 years, 4 months ago

      easily could get 4 or 5 playing, then who to bench? life is never easy

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      1. 1mills
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Sess, Evans and Santon were subbed all week

        Well Evans, Santon and Bale were subbed this morning.

        Now I'm confused and worried about sub appearances from the doubtfuls.

        Think Kelly either plays or doesn't so can keep Santon/Evans on bench.

        The other 5 it's hard to pick who will be benched or not.

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  10. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    up to 6.1 mln MIDFIELDER ??

    not Pilks, got him

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Surman / Moses / McClean / Taarabt / Cabaye

      Probably depends on your other players but I'd be looking at the above.

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    2. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      miyachi (bench this week)

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    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Morrison wba

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        with this tough upcoming matches - Chelsea, ManU and NUFC in 3 of 4 next GWs... 😐

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  11. heco87
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Tempted to go Bale --> Mata / Nani. Don't fancy Adam despite the double GW but there's something that feels wrong about the transfer.

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Do you think Bale will miss more than this week then?

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I think he could be out for a couple of weeks but to be honest, I could do with a mini differential in midfield anyway... some tough fixtures coming up for Spurs too although I concede there's an argument that Bale is fixture proof.

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    2. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Why get rid of Bale? Yeah his next couple of games arent great but then he has fixtures as blue as papa smurfs bellend.

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, there's a lot of points to be had in the next 2-3 weeks though. Don't think there's a problem with ditching until GW 31

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          No not at all. I couldnt afford to get him back though, thats why I wouldnt, but if you can then go for it.

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          1. heco87
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            True ... yeah I think I can - I didn't get him until he was £8.9m so I don't lose TOO much, especially if he drops a couple of times in the next few weeks.

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    3. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Mata next week 🙂 Mata this week not so much

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah maybe, there's something about that fixture I quite like but yes, next week is delicious. That said, so is Man Utd

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    4. MrJefferson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      i seen somewhere his hamstring is just tight, not even tore

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    5. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Nan-eye is a good shout.

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  12. Darren Caskey
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Player News:
    Bale (Doubtful)
    Van Persie (Doubtful)
    Kelly (Doubtful)
    Valencia (Injured)
    (+ Sessegnon hasn`t returned yet)

    Damn, regret I didn`t seel Valencia at 8.3 now..

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  13. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Save the transfer or do something?? (No comments on the 'keepers)!!

    Kenny
    Richards-Kelly-Raylor
    Bale-Walters-Dempsey(vc)-Silva
    RVP-Ba-Aguero(c)

    Bogdan-Sessegnon-Senderos-Caulker
    .1 in the bank

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      7 doubts too. Could be an awful week?!!

      Whats the news on Sessegnon?

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  14. HappyAnkit
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Most Transferred in Players Today-
    Aguero- 2648 NTI
    Kompany -2585 NTI
    Yaya Toure- 2201 NTI
    Pogrebnyak- 2185 NTI
    Walcott
    Holt
    Silva
    Pilikington
    Lescott
    Yakubu

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    1. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Most Transferred Out Players Today-
      Bale-> -10896 NTI
      Valencia
      Walker
      Vorm
      RVP
      Ramsey
      Fletcher
      Bosingwa
      Richards
      Zamora

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    2. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Pgrebynak! 😯 That one certainly han't flown under the ladder then.

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      1. HappyAnkit
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Can you help me with my query above?

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      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 17 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        2 goals 2 games an unpronounceable surname helps to attract attention too! 🙄

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        1. udit
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Sometimes I wonder if it's worth it to scout for differentials as all the casuals get on them within a couple of weeks.

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  15. shirtless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Got to be Aguero or Silva this week for captain now RVP is a doubt?

    I'm going with Silva as don't have Kun - even if RVP scores from off the bench you'd would expect 6 points off Silva from a clean sheet and assist at least so it balances out...

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      No the yak is my captain.

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    2. JT's Dog
      14 years, 4 months ago

      dont see better option in your team, but depends who you transfer in, i am on silva at mo, but dempsey keeps shouting to me

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      1. shirtless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Done Studge to Pomegranite. One week punt!

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  16. Arselona
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Vorm > Al-Habsi.... Yay or nay?

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    1. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      yay and before GW30 Al-Habsi to Ruddy or Bogdan

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  17. Hay Number 2
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Rate my goals rush bet (both teams to score):

    Liverpool v Arsenal
    Blackburn v Villa
    Stoke v Norwich
    WBA V Chelsea
    Newcastle v Sunderland
    Tottenham V United
    Leeds v Southampton

    £2.00 on £81.81 return.

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    1. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Going to fail on the first match I'm afraid.

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      1. Hay Number 2
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Spoil sport 😉

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'd leave the top one off. Liverpool can keep anyone quiet and can fail to score against anyone too.

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    3. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Blackburn Villa
      Stoke Norwich
      WBA Chelsea

      They are the difficult ones, though I think WBA Chelsea should be ok. Worth £2 anyway.

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    4. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah I like it ... West Brom v Chelsea to scupper you.

      Would say Blackburn vs Villa will break you as Villa can't score without Bent but last time I checked, BR were awful at defending too!

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    5. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Have a look at Oxford vs Swindon - that would be the first one on my coupon

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    6. Hay Number 2
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ah never mind.....me and an old friend always pop up the bookies every friday and put £2.00 max on a random bet.

      We've won a few goal rush bets this year. At £2.00 it's worth a look!

      Gotta be in it to win it;)

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  18. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    im seriously thinking about wasting my 'free' transfer (got 2 free still) for the 2nd week in a row?! madness?
    just dont have any cash to make decent changes!

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      It's not madness if you've got a top team ... team isn't linked though so can't really say what I'd do

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      1. Connor's Calling
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Sorensen
        Kelly Santon Kompany
        Bale Dempsey Walters Silva
        Aguero Ba RvP
        SUBS: Mignolet McLean Caulker Evans
        0.1 in bank
        [so not enough to upgrade Sorenson, Kelly or even Bale (to say Nani)
        Thanks

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  19. GRIMANDI [formerly boring M…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Sess [new] OR Moses [SWA]

    Im leaning towards Moses. Due a goal

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      He was due a long time the labour pains must be killing him.

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  20. Coleman Feel The Moyes!
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I'm really considering Dzeko or Balotelli this week...Dzeko played 90 mins, week off for Mario...who to pick? Can't afford Aguero.

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  21. Scroobius Mac
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    NEW POST

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  22. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I used to baby sit for this bloke as a kid....still don't really understand why he called his daughter Chelsea!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0OCRrvMBpA&feature=related

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  23. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    This is my team starting for the GW 27: 😛

    Vorm
    Richards-Komps-Kelly
    Dempsey-Bale-Silva-Sess
    Welbeck-RVP-Ba

    Bench:Krul-Caulker-Santon-Valencia

    I have ONE question!
    Which one week punt should I go for?

    1.Valencia>Morrison(CHE) ; If I go for this one, Morrison will be played instead of Welbeck.

    2.Welbeck>Pogrebnyak(WOL)

    3.Welbeck>Yakubu(AVL)

    4.Valencia>Siggy(wig)

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Pog or Yak, tempted by Yak for pens.

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      1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Pog as he has good fixtures coming up n fulham seem to be playing thru him now instead of Dempsey

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  24. Incorrigible Brat
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    taiwo>cahill. Good move??
    Need someone from chelsea and he seems the best way to put a finger in that pie.

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  25. default
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Bad, bad week…

    Vorm (Lind)
    Taiwo Senderos Santon (BAE Evans)
    Silva (c) Demps Sess Beausejour (Bale)
    RVP Rooney P.Cisse

    I made 2 transfers mistakenly on ipad FFM app, Clark>Evans and Sturridge>P.Cisse, 4 pointer too. Is there anything I can do?

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      No.

      How did u make them in error?

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      1. default
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I didn't mean to get them reversed, I was pissing around on the app after a night out.

        Just wondered if anything is worth another hit.

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  26. The Wet Bandit
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    "They appear to be feeding eachother". It's like watching sea monkeys age 13. Much like the rest of my fantasy season actually.

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  27. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Hi

    What changes should I make to this side.?

    Sorensen mignolt

    Kompany Evans senderos Twaio santon

    Silva Valencia bale sess Dempsey

    Rvp augero pogenback

    Only.3 in the bank

    Was think surauz and Enrique in nx week

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  28. Coleman Feel The Moyes!
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Madness? Bent & Sess > Dzeko & Adam (DGW) Need to catch up ASAP!!

    This is my current team:

    Sorensen
    Shawcross,Richards,Raylor
    Silva Bale McClean Siggy
    RVP Ba Bent

    Subs: Mig, Sess, Williams, Kelly.

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  29. mackay007
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Team currently for the weekend:

    Mignolet
    Caulker J Evans Kompany
    Sess Moses Silva Bale
    Aguero RVP Ba

    Subs: Sorensen BAE Simpson Valencia

    I have 2 FTs so could bring in someone but really unsure who to be honest, I think I'll hold Valencia for another week. Maybe trade Sorensen? Only problem is not got any extra £ to do so. And if as everyone is suggesting to load LIV players in I'd like to keep the extra transfer!

    Also do I have my subs right? Or should I assume Utd and Spurs won't keep clean sheets and bring in BAE for attacking potential?

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  30. Lexim
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone considering benching Bale even if he is officially said to be starting?

    Thinking of playing
    Vorm
    N.Taylor - JEvans - R.Taylor
    Silva - Pilkington - Sess - McClean
    RVP(VC) - Augero (C) - Ba

    Bench: Bale - BAE - Santon

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