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Saturday Dugout Discussion

5 May 2012 2287 comments
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The Dugout Discussion opens for the oddity of a solitary Saturday Premier League fixture. With Chelsea and Liverpool Wembley bound this evening, we’re restricted to just one fantasy scoring opportunity. But, with over half of us backing Robin van Persie with the armband (if our Captain’s Poll is to be believed), then Arsenal versus Norwich is a game of huge significance. With mini-leagues hanging in the balance, let’s take a look at the team news to confirm whether or not our talisman starts…

Arsenal XI: Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Ramsey, Song, Gervinho, Rosicky, Benayoun, van Persie.

Norwich XI: Ruddy, Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Martin, Lappin, Johnson, Howson, Elliott Bennett, Hoolahan, Jackson, Holt.

Of course the Arsenal captain does start, and he does so in an unchanged Gunners line-up from the side that drew 1-1 at Stoke.

After a 3-0 defeat at home to Liverpool, Norwich make several changes with Grant Holt and Simeon Jackson leading the line for the Canaries.

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  1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Did all the people whining about RVP sell him and buy him back?
    There was a tremendous amount of hysterical whining at half time on this thread!

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    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      +1 , I've never sold him or contimplated it either for that matter. The hardest Van to lose, more reliable than a toyota - Rvp I salute you.

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    2. Schwarzer
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      +1

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  2. joinho
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Assuming RVP will get the 3 baps?

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      2 goals, other goalscorers either didn't start or finish the game. I'd say he's nailed on for them.

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        also quite a few shots on target

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    2. Otis Kay
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      hopefully yes! or hoolahan/holt :/

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  3. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Well if Wolves scored 4 against Swan Man Utd can surely score 5 against them.

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    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Wolves > Utd.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        hahaha

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      2. udit
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        Agreed, Sheffield United are even worse than Wolves.

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      A bit reductionist. Swans played 3 at the back as an experiment, they won't do that again against Utd.

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    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Back to the old formation I think. Last week was a trial failed system.

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    4. Bartowski
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Swansea aren't going to experiment with a three man defence at Old Trafford

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      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        I am kinda sorry I sold caulker now, not just because it was for Vermaelen, but I don't think Man united are going to hammer swansea.
        Swansea will go back to their keep ball tactics.

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  4. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Well a FT put on the verm wasn't the best of plans... Will keep him for the final match too though so might repay it.

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      +1

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      i have had him for a fair few weeks now, not getting an Arsenal defender next year.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        Yeah don't think I'll be jumping on that bandwagon unless his price drops a bit.

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 days ago

          I miss owning Kompany, I want him back

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  5. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Here's a conspiracy: RvP deliberately missed those chances so that Arsenal fail to reach the CL, and he will have a reason to leave... SOMEBODY CALL THE PRESS!

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    1. Mulder
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      RVP wanting to leave is not conspiracy talk but a fact. Who can blame him.

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        I thought you only did this with United? 🙄

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        1. Mulder
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 days ago

          Haha you're right. I'm sorry.

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    2. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      We'll still make the CL though 🙂

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    3. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      He missed because he van.

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  6. udit
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Well done to RVP(C) ( Although most of you had panicked well before 30 minutes!) now come on Wazza, bag us a hat trick!!!!!!

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    1. sotothemightygreek
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      +1

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  7. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    10 points from 3 players and a -4 hit. So 6 from 3.

    Wish it were golf, I'd be leading with my low score.

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    1. MARVELLUS
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      ouch

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Painful defence.

      You sold Petrov? My rival has him, he's going to score now! 🙁

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      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        Of course he's going to score. Fed up with it really. To have both your defenders scoring 0 is pretty unlucky.

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 days ago

          Very unlucky. Losing Sagna to injury in the first half after 2 goals conceded is bad enough on its own. Verm almost scored.

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        2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 days ago

          i actually think there will be few clean sheets for the more popular owned defenders this week, looking at fixtures. i dont think those defender scores will hurt you too much, well hopefully. out of the fixtures they were both a really good shout.

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    3. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      unlucky.

      and your golfing glove would probably be full of bogeys too.

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    4. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Mark got in Aguero and Kompany for a hit?

      Wow

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        Yep.

        Talked me into Kompany over verm this morning, reasoning was decent but I choose lescott as cheaper and more goal threat instead 😉

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        1. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 days ago

          I don't think he would have got them under normal circumstances but now he's shrugged me off, he's chasing Martin Axford in the premier league game so needed to go leftfield.

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    5. JWF
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Hadn't realised you'd doubled up on Arse defence. Ouch. Still, second in the Ironman league is all but sewn up so it's not all bad.

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        WUMMER

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    6. A.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Double Arsenal defence? Painful :/

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  8. ★FC Borecelona★
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Tevez, Aguero and Heskey. Permission to go absolutely mental tommorrow

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    1. Adnan Shah
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Imagine what Heskey will do when he goes mental 😀

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  9. fantasyxprt11
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Can some one tell me if AOC will get the assist for the 3rd goal?

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  10. ILOVEBAPS
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    What was the final score?
    How many points for RVP?

    Cheers

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport

      http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

      You're welcome.

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    2. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      3-3, 10 points for rvp

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    3. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      1-0 to Chelsea , Liverpool never really turned up baps for gullit .

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      1. ILOVEBAPS
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        thanks gentle folk

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  11. GOONER
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    My team:
    Simpson Turner
    VDV Petrov
    Cisse

    Rival team:
    Bogdan
    Hibbert
    Ramires Valencia
    Rooney

    Rest of the players we both have*

    Do you think who will score more because we are on a tie right now?

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      who is your sub to replace simpson? cos he wont play

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      1. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        and who is your keeper?

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        1. GOONER
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 days ago

          My 1st sub is caulker
          My goalkeeper already played Szczesny

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          1. Jairzinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 days ago

            probably the rival will get more points i think. sorry

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  12. Nopli
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    I had to choose between Evra and Verm and i went for Evra.......Sigh 🙂

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Wish I did...hoping Evans somehow turns up now 🙁

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      nicely done.

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  13. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Ill take those 26pts from RVP after boners.

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  14. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Time for a nap, enjoy the FA Cup guys. 🙂

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    1. Schwarzer
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Don't sleep through it 😛

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        I'll record it either way.

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  15. Pinoche
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Have a look at the Captain : http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1946898/event-history/37/

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    1. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      He has balls, I like balls

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      1. Schwarzer
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        Highest ranking Aussie! I'm only 846 spots behind lol.

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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Oooh, that's unlucky. He's 17th in the world and started in the second GW 😯

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        goes to show sometimes you gotta take risks to get that high. calculated risks of course

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    3. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Ouch!

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    4. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      He won't be 17th once the ranks have updated.

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    5. JWF
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      That has got to hurt. 17th in the world and a defender as captain?! Jeez that's bold... and ultimately stupid as it turns out.

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    6. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Gameweek 2 starter ranked 17th. To quote Garry Neville, that's 'un-be-lievable'!

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        Sick. He's one of the 2 people that didn't start in GW1 that is ahead of me.

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  16. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Does a yellow card def. get minus PPI points, folks, yeah ?

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    1. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      No, Verm will still get bonus 😉

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  17. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    What is everyone doing for next week? Not really sure what to do, seems ridiculous not to use a transfer

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  18. PlayPercentage
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    RVP (C).
    I'll settle for that. Not even bothered about BPs. It could have been a much worse start to the GW...

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  19. Tommytour
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    May go Tevez over Aguero as cheeky differential next week?

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  20. mouldy_uk
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Great start to the weekend as a RVP (c)'ner and a Newcastle fan. We wont mention Verm.

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  21. Goonther
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Heartbreaking game....absolutely terrible defending. Ramsey had another terrible game and Oxlade-Chamberlain should have started. and that was a bloody penalty in the dying minutes. horrible call. could have cost Arsenal their season. heartbreaking....Champions League Football and RVP could have both just blown out the window

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    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Spurs 3rd , Arsenal 4th, Chelsea win the UCL. We'll meet in the Europa bro. And even then, you won't win because you lot love being trophyless 😀

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    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Yes let's all slate Ramsey, let's not mention that Vermaelen was at fault for 2 goals.

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      1. Goonther
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        entire defense in shambles. not to mention our keeper decided not to show up.

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      2. si
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        Classic Arsenalism. They were on his back after 5 minutes. They actually want him to make mistakes now.

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 days ago

          It's ridiculous, Song was worse then him in the first half and not a word.

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          1. Goonther
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 days ago

            Song was not even close to having the game that Ramsey was having. Missed passes and terrible defending all over the field. Song then came back in the 2nd half and provided key passes....while Ramsey continued to flounder.

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    3. A.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Norwich could've had two pens in the first half, don't get too high and mighty.

      And if City beat Newcastle and Bayern beat Chelsea you'll be fine..

      If either of those things do happen though - bye bye Van Persie 🙁

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      1. Goonther
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        those were not penalties. only barca would get those.

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    4. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Ramsey was poor, but Gibbs, Vermaelen, and Szczesny were pretty awful too.
      I honestly don't even think AOC was that great either when he came on

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      1. Goonther
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        I thought Gervinho played great. AOC brought pace...and he makes an impact on the game immediately, not scared to take players on

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    5. njfsdkffslkf
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      A random person with no experience telling a multiple league winning multilingual manager with 20 years experience who transformed an entire countries footballing culture who works with the plays in training every day what to do is not comical or stupid at all.

      and of course the ref also had the liberty of seeing a zoomed in version of a reply from a clear monitor

      Continue please.

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      1. Goonther
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        What idiotic comments. You could make that statement of a replay for every call in every sport around the world. Refs get paid to be able to make the decision without the use of replays. Not having it does not change the fact that it was a penalty....and due to the immense importance of the game, could have decided their season.

        Everything that is said is an opinion...Im not telling Arsene how to manage his team, I am stating that to me (and prob 90% of all Arsenal supporters) that AOC should have started.

        Get bent

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        1. njfsdkffslkf
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 days ago

          "You could make that statement of a replay for every call in every sport around the world."

          Indeed but still doesnt change thats its correct or millions go on to over such opinions

          "Refs get paid to be able to make the decision without the use of replays"

          But you used said reply which the ref didnt have to make a definite decision on whether it was or was not a penalty. Perhaps the next time you wish to make such a judgement on a ref run for 90min then stand behind the play with players between you and the action.
          If the ref doesnt have a reply then your criticism of him /her using said reply reeks a tad of hypocrisy.

          "Im not telling Arsene how to manage his team, I am stating that to me (and prob 90% of all Arsenal supporters) that AOC should have started."

          If your saying X should be in a team yet not saying it really what was the entire point of saying it to begin with? Nor does what 90% of people think about said situation in any way take away from inexperienced blogger thinking his view on a team would improve it over experience winning manager.

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          1. Goonther
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 days ago

            i feel bad for your children. your an idiot.

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            1. njfsdkffslkf
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 4 days ago

              Says to guy using a Tv reply to criticize the decision a ref made without one and thinking his views on team selection would improve the team over a multiple winning coach

              Im afraid classifying anyone as an idiot wont take away from the two above points being said by you - and now comical defended.

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              1. organdonor47
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 4 days ago

                you do seem to be responding like an idiot in fairness.

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    6. Adnan Shah
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Arsenal fans should stop complaining about penalty. They could have easily been down to 9 by that time, not to mention penalty for Norwich in 1st half.

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  22. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    jeez. reality check.

    just checked the FPL website and saw that the GW1 deadline is August 13th at 11.30am.

    getting all melancholy......

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVhiBGvVFc

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  23. PL Ball
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Benayoun 2 shots, 2 on target,1 goal. May steal the 3 Baps from VP?

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    1. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      RvP with goals and 90 mins should clinch it.

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  24. Aditya K
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Until last min i had the armband on RVP..but bloddy hell.

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  25. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    which team do people want to join the prem from the championship playoffs? i'd quite like to see holloway back in the top flight, thought he was unlucky to go down last time.

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    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Cardiff & Blackpool

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    2. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Cardiff. But they are play off jinxed.

      Blackpool if not.

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 days ago

        cardiff have been unlucky too, i do sympathise with them.

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    3. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Blackpool without a doubt!

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  26. GodFowler
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Assist for RVPs second?

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Rosicky or nobody. One to be reviewed and possibly added.

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  27. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Repost:

    Team A

    Krul
    Wheater Kompany Walker
    Young Siggy Bale Dempsey
    Jelavic Aguero Rooney (C)

    Team B

    Cech
    Hibbert Terry Kelly (Fulham)
    Pienaar VDV Bale Dempsey
    Cisse Jelavic (C) RVP

    Who will score the most points this gameweek?

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    1. Lrf
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      B

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    2. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Wheater.

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  28. SmokeyH
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    What happened to Sagna? Was it bad injury...all i needed was another injured defender to go with BAE, Evans etc etc

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  29. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    RVP likely to get three bps?

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    1. stilicho
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      OPTA not in yet, but I would have thought so.

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    2. Aditya K
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Looks likely..although Benny has 2 shots and both on target and a goal. I'd still pick RVP for 3 baps.

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  30. Brookins
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 days ago

    Because Im awesome.

    Liverpool to LIFT THE CUP

    From 10/11 up to 3/1 right now

    Take advantage £10 max stake!

    http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/facebook-enhanced-specials/enhanced-facebook-soccer-special?ev_oc_grp_ids=670483

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 days ago

      Cheers 🙂

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