[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
2 September 2012 4238 comments
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Settle down, we’ve no less than three Premier League encounters to take us into Antiques Roadshow, with Fantasy points hopefully continuing to flow following yesterday’s drama. We’ve opened our Dugout Discussion chatroom to capture the real-time chatter, just in time for our first kick-off at Anfield, as Liverpool face the Gunners. Full line-ups here are…

Liverpool XI: Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Allen, Sahin, Gerrard, Sterling, Borini, Suarez.
Substitutes: Jones, Carragher, Shelvey, Downing, Henderson, Kelly, Coates.

Arsenal XI: Mannone, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Cazorla, Arteta, Diaby, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Giroud, Podolski.
Substitutes: Koscielny, Martinez, Santos, Ramsey, Coquelin, Gervinho, Walcott.

Later today, we’re treated to Newcastle vs Villa and Southampton vs United at St Mary’s. With Carlos Tevez delivering on his captaincy promised yesterday, all eyes will now be on Robin Van Persie as he takes on the Saints as United’s chief goal threat in the absence of the injured Wayne Rooney.

Enjoy today’s games, we’ll see you on the other side with the Stock Check…

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. seanrior
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Who to get rid of Siggy for?

    Already have Cazorla, Michu, Yaya and Kac

    Thinking Ben Arfa? Only 0.4 in the bank

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    1. Flavorito
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Find the extra money for Hazard.

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      1. Messiah Hazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Hazard

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  2. johnny_
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Wildcard or 12 point hit to get RVP in as i already took a 4 point hit to get rid of Chico and Bale? Have 2.9 in the bank but not enough for Torres->RVP, so thinking Kag->Yaya and then Torres->RVP.

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  3. B.P.R.D.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    26pts yesterday, 71 today pre-BP.

    Coming on here mid-gw can be depressing.

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  4. Fred
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know who will replace Taylor at Swansea

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    1. ginozola
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Ben Davies probably

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    2. Tatty Bojangles
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Davies most probably. Tate possibly, although he can play CB and LB.

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  5. Feanor
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    67 first week, 68 last week, and if Tevez and RVP get 3 BP and Yaya gets 1, I'll score 69 this week.

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    1. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      thanks for sharing that

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      1. Feanor
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Go be jealous somewhere else.

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    2. Seamy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Going in the right direction

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    3. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      great start mate

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  6. Seamy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Fergie must be raging not to have 600 wins out of 1000 instead of 599

    Or maybe he's still pretty happy

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Must be killing him

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  7. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Well I'm keeping Bale even though he will lose money because of all the knee jerking. I look forward to having him as a differential for the next couple of games 😎

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Good luck to you WC. With Cazorla hitting form, i don't think i will be partaking.

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      1. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        That was my first thought too.. but I'm sticking to the plan.

        Carzola in from GW7.

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      2. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        *WR

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Think I'm with you on this Wild Rover.

      Suffering 100k drop for Bale as a differential seems like a promising deal.

      With RvP and stiffening fixtures, I'm looking at Kagawa for the chop.

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    3. Flavorito
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Me too.

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    4. RMT's Professor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah me too. Even if his price drops, at least his value (points per £) will go up! 😉

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    5. Bad Pen
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Have Ade and will be keeping him, Spurs will improve.

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    6. Gnubuntu
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I dont have your bravery. Im part of the Michu bandwagon now.

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  8. Podolskistan
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    why cant i see transfer button on FPL page since yesterday ? 🙂 strange

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  9. @Team Shark FC
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    best two keeper combo?
    currently hv DDG and Federici.
    on WC

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    1. Flavorito
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Szczesny and Jaask

      or

      Mignolet and Jaask

      or

      Foster and Jaask

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      1. @Team Shark FC
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        ok!

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    2. The_Druid
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Go for Hart,imo.And a 4m.

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    3. @Team Shark FC
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      help!

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  10. Sheepy
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    I think far too many of you are knee-jerking and toying with 8 point hits/early use of wildcards to get RVP in. Similarly for the likes of Cazorla. One good game week, a fantasy player does not make.

    Wasn’t a RVP goalfest inevitable at some point or another?

    Is not a little ‘patience grasshopper’ needed at times like this?

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    1. Flavorito
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Cazorla is a season keeper, always has been.

      Everything Arsenal does offensively goes through him. Takes all the set-pieces too.

      But I wouldn't take an 8-point hit just to get both in, because I already have both. 🙂

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  11. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Well done to all who engineered RVP into their teams Looking like an uphill road without him now

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  12. Jebiga
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    everythings looks good for me, only have problem with kagawa, simpson and adebayor, any idea who to replace ?

    Already have yaya, michu, hazard, rvp, tevez...

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  13. Downtown
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Arteta out…ben arfa or nolan in??

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    1. Flavorito
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Ben Arfa.

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  14. mufc802
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    36 points this week. I am not going to chase points now its too late, I'm sticking with Kagawa, Bale, Vertonghen and Torres because they will come good eventually. RVP is still too expensive, his hat-rick today just about justified his price for this one week, can't see him scoring 3 every week though.

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    1. EatStatic
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      The words of a man in denial. I'm not taking the p*ss either. You know he will score more. Swallow your pride and get him in, even for a hit. When he's 13.5 you will be kicking yourself.

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    2. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      of course he won't score 3 every week, but with rooney out I definitely think he is worth his price - grab him before further rises...

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        at arsenal he would play 90 every game

        once rooney is back both will get rested every now and then as no one is rotation proof under beet root nose

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      2. mufc802
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        I just can't do it, everyone else will have him anyway. Bale has to come good sometime and if I sell him now to afford RVP then I would kick myself when Bale starts to score.

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        1. Timmy Cahill Rules
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Im in the same boat

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  15. Goodkat
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Wasn't able to see the match. An honest opinion on Kagawa's performance anyone?

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    1. Aaa fantasy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Poor...barely in the game and right to be subbed

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    2. Tatty Bojangles
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Didn't get enough space and time on the ball to be effective.

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    3. Declan
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      non existent

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    4. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Just stick with him for another week, then do Kagawa->B.Arfa/McClean/A.Johnson

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    5. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Didn't get any space and all the threat was from Valencia. Bypassed. I'm not happy but at least he is off the radar of the wildcarders.

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    6. von bergendy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah, he was pretty poor. Southampton closed him down brilliantly, didn't give him a chance on the ball!

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    7. Goodkat
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I'm looking for a strong midfielder and I've been waiting to see how Kagawa fits in.

      I've Hazard, Michu already and I'm taking Bale out so I've about 10.0 to play around with.
      I've van persie/tevez and I'm covered with chelsea/man u/ man c defense.

      Looking at nasri too but rotation is too risky.

      Any ideas? Please don't say Cazorla!!!

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      1. Dogba
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Cazorla

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  16. Oldman Unathletic
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    i know this has mentioned before but there really should be abit of etiquette on this forum - tevez captainers calling rvp captainers and vice-versa. both of them had fine games and rewarded their owners with great scores, and that should be enough.

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      You can't legislate for human behaviour. It's pathetic, but they're not really breaking rules. Depends on the tone.

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    2. EatStatic
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Damn right. I'm imagine most of the agression is from 14-15 year olds unable to contain their horrible egos. Everybody needs to chill out. It's supposed to be fun after all (whilst always being the most important thing in my life 😉

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    3. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      arnt you missing the very essence of British humor?

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    4. Golden Oldies
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      All we are saying...is give peace a chance..

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  17. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Has Gervnhos forehead shown himself yet?

    WHERE ARE YOU, YOU LITTLE HELMET!?

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      😆 he's gone to bunker

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        As soon as he's out of the bunker i will be on him like white on rice. There is no escaping the abuse he will deservedly receive.

        ALL DAY GERVINHOS FOREHEAD, YOU HEAR!? ALL DAY!

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        1. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          What did he say exactly?

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          1. Drip Doctor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            99% of his posts are digs at Arsenal. Even Da Bawwwse Mark picked up on it.

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            1. Granville
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 8 months ago

              I know, he hates United too. I think he's just a kid. Shame he has so much anger in him.

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      What happened?

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    3. mufc802
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      haha

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    4. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      😆

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  18. Tiki-Taka
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    lost on last page) Do people think Friedel will start GW4 or will Lloris replace him? He was a beast against Norwich but the signing of a new GK for considerable fee raises obvious questions

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    1. Sheepy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Your guess is as good as anyone's.

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    2. smuggs
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      friedel is starting reading but avb said he was great but he needs to maintain this level cause he now has someone who wants his place. so i would be looking to ship not this week but soon

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    3. musesetlist
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      AVB said he won't be dropping him straight away after that performance, but that it's good to have competition in all areas.

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  19. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    My team I think needs major surgery, especially if Petric is now crocked.

    I need Rvp.

    I hate to say it but... May have to wc.

    Team on name link?

    Wildcard time 😥 ?

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yep. You must keep up Evs or all will be lost 😉

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Hmmm...

        Saying that I may just take a 4pt hit and bring in Rvp.

        But, if Petric is out.... ( according to forca )

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        1. Spike ⚽️
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Which is exactly what you wanted to do for this GW - Ba?

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          1. Evs
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            I know.

            TAMPING spike I kneejerked day after my hols. I never do that. Grrr...

            Evil with myself.

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    2. Seamy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Possibly

      Petric, Kaca, Lampard, Bale, Zab and possibly even Kags dare I say could be improved upon

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    3. Podge
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I'm thinking the same thing despite the good start, maybe 8 pointer will get you through the next week then a 4 pointer and thats 5 positions changed ?

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    4. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Tough call. Some good players in there.

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        I know.

        May just get a 4.5m gk and Rvp for Ba.

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    5. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Nah.

      Petric -> RVP
      Lampard -> Nolan

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Lose lamps :shock:?

        What about ddg ?

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        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Well you can lose Bale if you prefer. I only brought Bale in this week and I'm debating if I should keep him or not.

          DDG will start next game because Fergie said so + we just conceded another 2 goals. Wigan home should be a clean sheet really for us so see no reason why you should get rid now.

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          1. Evs
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Did Beavis say ddg would start then Beavis?

            Didn't here that?

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            1. Beavis
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 8 months ago

              I'm guessing you mean Fergie. He was asked why Lindy was starting and said DDG made a mistake last game, almost cost us the 3 points but he will be back in a couple of weeks time.

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    6. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      If it was me.. I *think* I'd do it.

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    7. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Kaca and bale (give one more week) need attention ,
      Zabs looks a prob and IMO you need to get in either Torres or rvp for Petric /ba , Pog could be the key - I've tevez/rvp and Pog.
      Take a hit or 2 don't panic , there will be a time where you need that wc more.

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Hmm... Maybe 8pts needed.

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    8. The Dirk Kuyt Rises
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      no way. get bale out and rvp in. shuffle it around but dont WC. Patience.

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  20. Indalo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    De Gea Federici
    Cole Zabaleta Hangeland Demel Clyne
    Cazorla Yaya Noble Kagawa Maloney
    Torres Tevez Graham

    3.5 in the bank

    Should I wildcard?

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      No.

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    2. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      As your name implies 'bit by Bit' and you'll get there fine 😉

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    3. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      nope

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    4. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Of course not.

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    5. itstimmehc
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Why would you want to wildcard? :L

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  21. Aaa fantasy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    few pages back someone said petric was injured? can anyone confirm

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  22. HVT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Beric A.

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  23. choppers13
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Who should i swap Zabaletta for to allow me to swap Bale to Hazard, have 5.2m:

    A) S Taylor
    B) Gibbs
    C) Cuellar
    D) McAuley

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    1. chadbeachy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I'd say Gibbs

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  24. Podolskistan
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    not that wise , IMO

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  25. maff
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Any rumoured dates for the rearranged Sunderland v Reading game?

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  26. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    So Kagawa, keep or sell (have RvP)

    Have 2 options for GW4

    Torres and Noble to Berba/Lambert and Cazorla (-4)

    or Kagawa to Cazorla

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      You only need RVP so Kagawa > Cazorla imo

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  27. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Geoff Shreeves just reminding Adkins they are the only team in the league without a point. He was never letting him get away without some disappointment. 🙂

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    1. Smellbobs
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Did he also tell him he's not playing in the Champs League Final?

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    2. afcblegend
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I know there's all the media obligations and what not but honestly, I just wouldn't speak to that guy!

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    3. Kevin Mirallas Appreciation
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Branislav ivanonic all over again.

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  28. BOOM XHAKALACA
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Who to ditch first: Zab or Bale?
    Or both for a hit?

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    1. choppers13
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I am doing both for a hit

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  29. Top Heavy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Feel sorry for Brendan Rodgers. That club is a mess that will take at least 3 years to get back into the top 4. They let him down in the transfer market and now he's left with a threadbare squad unable to compete with the best.

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    1. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I think Liverpool fans need to get used to being in the second tier of the premiership at best for many years to come. Could be worse, just ask Leeds, sheff wed and notts forest fans. Times change.

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  30. Michael Jordan - call me MJ
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    It seems to me that those who started with Rooney were actually quite fortunate as they were the ones who did a straight(ish) swap to RVP

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    1. J.Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Or with Torres +3m in bank like I did! 😀

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    2. Holy See
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah, last week when I (c) him, when he got 1pt, got injured, I thought to myself "Well isn't this just ideal". I was probably also lucky the week before when Aguero got me 1pt, got injured, so I brought in Rooney instead. Logic.fuzzy.very.

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