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6 October 2012 3450 comments
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We have our first kick-off of the weekend and we have a beauty to getting things rolling. Fantasy managers are treated to watching their Man City assets dance around Martin O’Neill’s fortifications for 90 minutes in what could either be a 3-3 thriller to mirror last season’s match, or be an inevitable battle of attrition as City struggle to blow Sunderland’s house down. Either way, we’ll be glued to it and savouring every minute as we stare into the precipice of an international break.

As highlighted in Andy’s overnight Catch-Up article Roberto Mancini has stuck true to his word and made more than a few notable changes to his City outfit from Wednesday’s game playing host to Dortmund.

An entire strike-force switch sees both Sergio Aguero and Edin Dzeko rested to the bench as Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli start in their place. Micah Richards has finally recovered from injury to start at centre-back alongside Joleon Lescott with captain Vincent Kompany and Matija Nastasic absent from the squad entirely – calf and ankle injuries are to blame respectively. To round out the changes Aleksandr Kolarov, Gareth Barry and James Milner also come in for Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and the injured Javi Garcia.

Martin O’Neill has been a lot calmer on the rotation front by welcoming Carlos Cuellar back from injury and into his starting XI as Sunderland’s only change from last weekend. The teams in full are…

Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Richards, Lescott, Kolarov, Milner, Barry, Y. Toure, Silva, Balotelli, Tevez
Man City Subs: Pantilimon, Clichy, K.Toure, Rodwell, Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko

Sunderland XI: Mignolet, Gardner, Cuellar, O’Shea , Rose, Colback, Larsson, Johnson, McClean, Sessegnon, Fletcher.
Sunderland Subs: Campbell, Kilgallon, Vaughan, Meyler, Bramble, Saha, Westwood.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is open and ready to withstand all your reactions in real-time from this and all today’s encounters.

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  1. Rowley Birkin
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Cazorla brace would be nice. Even a brace of assists 🙂

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    1. Podge
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yeh big time

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    2. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yes please. Seems unlikely away at West Ham though. Although i've had a feeling about Giroud all week.

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  2. Crouch Potato!
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Stirling Albion will be having a party.

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    1. MJ6987
      14 years, 1 month ago

      They are my "Scottish League" team. Have been since the early 80s. Liked the badge in Panini.

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  3. Coldplay
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Wow, this is turning out to be a good GW for me shockingly. Got attacking returns from every player who played except Cech.

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    1. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Shame about Di Santo on the bench

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  4. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    From someone owning no CHE players, it makes sense to get some coverage but their fixtures are so bad I'm thinking again. Best to remain Chelsea-less?

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    1. Smakies
      14 years, 1 month ago

      NO mata is in great form

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      1. Rafabio
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Since you missed out on Norwich at home, I'd go with Mata who seems fixture-proof on current form.

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    2. Locarno
      14 years, 1 month ago

      If you didn't want any today - at home to that rabble - you'll never want any.

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  5. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    RMWCT please...

    Begovic Mannone
    Baines Ivanovic Hughes Clyne Demel
    Hazard Pienaar Gervinho Bale Kaca
    Ba Lambert RVP

    0.5m in the bank

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  6. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    50 points so far with Bale(c) and RVP to come;)

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  7. FORCA INTER
    14 years, 1 month ago

    shall i get rid of Morisson or Michu?

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    1. Portuguese&Proud
      14 years, 1 month ago

      michu before the city game i will hold him until then...

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    2. Podge
      14 years, 1 month ago

      After next week Michu

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    3. Kostja
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Both for a hit

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      1. Kostja
        14 years, 1 month ago

        actually michu after this week, or Morisson now- but he could be kept long term.

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    4. Simon69
      14 years, 1 month ago

      After they scored 16 points + baps to come between them?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        14 years, 1 month ago

        i have 2ft and i need to use at least 1

        and i want get gervinho

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      2. The Finnisher
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Sometimes you have got to take the points and run..

        Forca - Michu first, neither this week.

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        1. Simon69
          14 years, 1 month ago

          It's hardly Michu's first goal of the season + at home to not exactly the strongest side in the league in GW 8

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          1. The Finnisher
            14 years, 1 month ago

            That's why I said neither this week...

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            1. Simon69
              14 years, 1 month ago

              I missed that. Did I see right that Gervinho is playing upfront with Giroud?

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  8. Smakies
    14 years, 1 month ago

    WHO has the biggest score here ?

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    1. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      52 With RVP (c) Nolan Ba and Jaask to go..

      Lucky week

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    2. kaz 96
      14 years, 1 month ago

      some guy with 60 from 8

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      1. Smakies
        14 years, 1 month ago

        DAMM!

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      2. Nopli
        14 years, 1 month ago

        He had 44(-8) from 8. He probably counted the bonus points as well. 🙂

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      3. MARVELLUS
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Me 🙂

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        1. MARVELLUS
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Whoops, 59, but was me who posted earlier.

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    3. mutatedllama
      14 years, 1 month ago

      My one day wonders team 68 from 10 so far so might be up there

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        1. Smakies
          14 years, 1 month ago

          -36 though !

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        2. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Not bad 🙂 pity you didn't have Kompany -> Kolarov haha

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        3. Podge
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Why do people do this ?

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          1. Rafabio
            14 years, 1 month ago

            For fun?

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  9. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
    14 years, 1 month ago

    27 (-4) with Ba RVP Suarez (C) Jassk Gibbs and Barfa to come.

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  10. Optimus.
    14 years, 1 month ago

    west ham 1-0 arsenal (demel) would suit me nicely 😉

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    1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      14 years, 1 month ago

      A 0-0 would suit me perfectly 🙂 Jassk and Gibbs

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  11. Hotrod
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Happy enough with today, Lambert captain tomorrow will make or break my GW

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  12. Christina.
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Thanks Swans for fecking up my accumulator bet.

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  13. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Monitoring this game closely. Definitely getting Arsenal attacking cover for Norwich away.

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    1. blue cheese
      14 years, 1 month ago

      +1

      Get an attacker who plays Norwich and QPR. Sit back and enjoy! #FPLMantra

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      1. kaz 96
        14 years, 1 month ago

        i personally think southampton are worse than qpr

        defensively

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Just add them to the list. They're all shite.

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  14. XVIVX
    14 years, 1 month ago

    has arsenal lineup been posted?

    Mannone, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla, Gervinho, Giroud, Podolski

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    1. Cheggers
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Good to see Kos has been dropped

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  15. the axolotl
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Stirling Albion 1-0 Rangers

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    1. Podge
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Aww

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    2. scotsman23
      14 years, 1 month ago

      ha i just cant get enough

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  16. div
    14 years, 1 month ago

    How did Tevez play today?

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    1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty good. Not as good as Aguero though.

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    2. kaz 96
      14 years, 1 month ago

      he did well, deserved more

      probably won't get any baps, mind you

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      1. Rafabio
        14 years, 1 month ago

        This sums it up nicely. Should've had more points than the assist from FK.

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        1. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          14 years, 1 month ago

          he wouldn't have even got that assist in previous seasons

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    3. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Not bad at all. I am convinced Aguero and Tevez are the first choice partnership. I am keeping. Unless, Giroud convinces me otherwise 😉

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      1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
        14 years, 1 month ago

        In other words you're 100% keeping 🙂

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    4. blue cheese
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bulldog.

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    5. Smakies
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Should have had a goal, played well, but silva was the main man

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  17. wagner is king
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone who watched the chelsea game want to guess were bonuses are going?

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    1. Locarno
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ivan 3, Hazard 2, don't care 1.

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    2. blue cheese
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Iva 3, Torres 2, Mata/Haz 1

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    3. The Finnisher
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ivan 3 Torres 2 Hazard 1

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  18. div
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Is it worth doing Tevez >

    A. Gervinho
    B. Ba
    C. Suarez

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    1. Caine & Co.
      14 years, 1 month ago

      tevez -> gervinho if you can

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Hahaha Im guessing you are joking right?

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    2. Mak_Gold
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Good luck with A.

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  19. tristanabc
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Cesar Green
    Demel Clyne Baines Rangel Hughes
    Michu HBA Maloney Gervinho Hazard
    RVP Aguero Graham

    2 free transfers, taking out Hazard and Graham.
    Which two should I put in?

    A) Tevez and Nolan
    B) Ba and Nolan
    C) Fletcher and Yaya
    D) Suarez and Nolan

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  20. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Giroud, go on, score 2.

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    1. blue cheese
      14 years, 1 month ago

      .. points.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        14 years, 1 month ago

        🙂

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      2. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Nicely done NN. Giroud is going to make me a legend around these parts. 😉

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        1. blue cheese
          14 years, 1 month ago

          ↓

          I'm with you. Top goalscorer in the French League can't be that bad!

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      3. blue cheese
        14 years, 1 month ago

        That was a joke btw. I'd like to see him score.

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    2. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I think he will score. I have done for the past week, so i'm not surprised he's started. It's inevitable.

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  21. Over Midwicket
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Going to WC from:

    Foster, Federici
    Demel, Baines, Hangeland, Cuellar, Saylor
    Bale, Pienaar, Fellaini, Dyer, Yaya
    Tevez, Fletcher, Ba

    to

    Foster, Bego
    Demel, Baines, Ivanovic, Rafael, Cuellar
    Bale, Pienaar, Forehead, Morrison, Mata
    Jelly, Ba, Fletch

    YAY or Nay? I'm thinking Yay, mini leagues are won before Christmas, and I've got so many injuries, dead players etc.

    Thanks to all who respond.

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    1. Podge
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Where is RVP ? Not a team without him.

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      1. Simon69
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I've seen plenty.

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      2. Over Midwicket
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Not sure who to downgrade to get RVP in..

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  22. Corrigan
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Just pondering the merits of leaving the Everton midfield alone and just go with Baines and possibly Jelavic.

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    1. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thats what I have done for the past 2 weeks

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    2. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 1 month ago

      think it's worth it...baines huge bonus amidst so many defences struggling and jelavic more of a captain option than the mids.

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  23. Live4pool
    14 years, 1 month ago

    who would you get rid of if you have to chose one of Pienaar and Michu

    thanks!!

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    1. McDog
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Neither, Pienaar has been really consistent and Michu is a massive goal threat and can score against anyone.

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    2. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Well that would depend on your other player to be honest. I'd say Everton coverage is more of a necessity.

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    3. 4vets
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Michu... sold him for Pienaar a week or 2 ago 🙂

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  24. My name is an echo
    14 years, 1 month ago

    anyone watch the chelsea game - how was Hazard?

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  25. Christina.
    14 years, 1 month ago

    ML rival did Michu -->Gerv. Come Gerv, do my proud and get 1pt.

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  26. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Bad day. I really thought it was going to get worse with Fellaini or Michu being sent off but fortunately that didn't happen. Second half was slightly better actually, at least Michu scored.

    Should at least stop his price dropping like a stone during the 2 week break!

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    1. Cheggers
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Really dont get why Michu seems to be the focus of FF. His returns are fine for the cash

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      1. Caine & Co.
        14 years, 1 month ago

        yep, more than fine. people are just shocked he's not scored every game since gw4. no really it's the bad fixtures and disbelief in swansea team.

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        1. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          14 years, 1 month ago

          What bad fixtures? His fixtures are great.

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  27. Mull
    14 years, 1 month ago

    What do you think the BP's will be in the Everton game?

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    1. My name is an echo
      14 years, 1 month ago

      3 for baines anyway

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      1. fitzy
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I'd argue against that. Sure he did get a goal as a defender and baines is a bp magnet but imo the yellow would be make him get 2.

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      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I don't think so. A penalty isn't worth as much PPI as a goal from open play. Shot off target too.

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      3. Locarno
        14 years, 1 month ago

        ??? Yellow card and two conceded? No chance.

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    2. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Baines 3 Di Santo 2 Jelavic 1

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      1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Well Kone got a goal and assist so..

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  28. john25
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    PLEASE HELP!

    Do you guys think Graham's price will drop tonight???

    Really need to know because if he is then I'm transferring him out right away!

    Thanks! 🙂

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    1. blue cheese
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'd sell him right now even if his price is rising!

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      1. blue cheese
        14 years, 1 month ago

        But, no - not falling tonight. 23% atm.

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  29. Reed_Rothchild
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I'll tell ya. This site. First Mata over Hazard the beginning of the season. Then Holy Trinity. Then Ivanovic will be a rotation risk due the new signee, which prompted many to get rid for Baines. And now Cazorla is playing like Modric but not getting fantasy points and Gervinho is hogging the points. C'mon, Mark. I'm better off figuring it out on my own.

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I agree with everything you've said.

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      1. Locarno
        14 years, 1 month ago

        That's because you're an idiot.

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        1. Lucky_2010
          14 years, 1 month ago

          lol, most probably those played with brain/thinking and rush in decision making, FFS is good guide imo but not necessary must follow exactly !!!

          cheers.

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          1. Lucky_2010
            14 years, 1 month ago

            "without"

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    2. Locarno
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Then do that.

      None of the scouts boast of being experts - their rankings confirm that.

      They just bring us a shedload of information. Don't blame them if you've used it incorrectly and chosen the wrong player.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Well said, although the scouts always finish with decent ranks.

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        1. Locarno
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Some do, unless you have a more generous view of what is a decent rank.

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          1. Piggs Boson
            14 years, 1 month ago

            I thought they get above 5k generally.

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            1. Locarno
              14 years, 1 month ago

              Ah, fair enough. That's quality. I must have looked at the wrong links last season. It wasn't a dig - it's just that this RR idiot seems to want this site to be run by the current World Nos 1 through 6.

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    3. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 1 month ago

      OK. Bye then.

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    4. Caine & Co.
      14 years, 1 month ago

      are you dumb

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    5. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bye bye. 😀

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    6. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I think you seriously have your wires crossed. Listening to random opinions in the comment section, is not Mark's fault, it's yours.

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      1. Reed_Rothchild
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Who had Mata in the scout picks? Who had an article about the holy trinity?

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        1. PMC3
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Look at the scout picks this week:

          Baines- scored
          Ivanovic - scored + assist
          hazard - scored
          michu- scored
          tevez - assist

          With RVP, Suarez, Bale, Ramirez and Johnson to come.

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          1. Lucky_2010
            14 years, 1 month ago

            decent selection i would say ....... playing this game need patient and NOT just followed/to transfer IN 1 GW high scoring players !!!

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        2. Locarno
          14 years, 1 month ago

          What? They put a world-class World Cup winner playing for a good team at home against a crap team in the Scout picks???

          Hang the bastards.

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        3. Declan-
          14 years, 1 month ago

          It's guesswork. Your choice to follow it

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          1. seattlechelsea
            14 years, 1 month ago

            The Scout rocks! From an American who has yet to visit England but loves the Prem.

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    7. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ivanovic in the scout picks.
      Mata in the differentials article.
      Hazard in the scout picks.

      SHUT UP.

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      1. Reed_Rothchild
        14 years, 1 month ago

        After everyone got rid for Baines.
        After everyone for rid for Hazard.
        Only because people were only holding on to him for this game.

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    8. itstimmehc
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Your statement loses all credibility by just having that username.

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    9. Van The Man
      14 years, 1 month ago

      You shouldn't seek opinions in that case! Should respect people's opinions if you do seek advice. Thats my opinion though.

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    10. Simon69
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Don't let the door hit you on the way out you knobjockey!

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    11. blue cheese
      14 years, 1 month ago

      We won't miss you.

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    12. vballer
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Dude, understand your frustration, but PATIENCE is the name of the game. Stop chasing last weeks' points, stop chasing points over value, and lastly make your own decisions based on watching how the players actually perform and how the teams are set up. e.g. it's obvious fellaini won't always be playing upfront given everton has 3 pretty good strikers and can utilise at least 2 up front anytime; hazard performed well initially but didn't do as well as the team changed its style of play, if you didn't realise.

      I know, easy to say on hindsight, but I kept faith with torres hazard and michu for the past 3 weeks and all performed today. sad to say I sold bale right before his crazy runs started, kudos to those who kept faith.

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      1. vballer
        14 years, 1 month ago

        *value over points

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    13. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Hey, this is why FFS is the number 1 ranked group in the entire game 😉 Wise up, son.

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    14. djt
      14 years, 1 month ago

      KNOB

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    15. Paully Walnuts
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Do you not have a brain of your own?? Are you incapable of making your own decisions??

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    16. Somalion
      14 years, 1 month ago

      And how many times has this site guided you in the right direction? When someone's opinions lead you to success I'm sure you're quick to take all the credit for your "inspired" choice. When a different opinion leads you to a poor return you come one here and take a shot and the very guy who started this whole thing. Rather irritating.

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    17. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ten minutes ago you were claiming we'd said to get rid of Hazard in a members article when we said exactly the opposite and you hadn't even read the article. What's your motive I wonder?

      This on a day where out of 6 picks who have so far played today, 5 of them have scored goals or assists.

      We never bill ourselves as experts - we're enthusiasts and our remit is to offer up information for others to form their own opinions. Having said that, two FPL Champions in three years have been visitors and users of this site and our community is top of the league of leagues again this season. We can't get everything right but I'm pretty sure we're helping people. Sorry if you haven't been one of them.

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      1. Reed_Rothchild
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I said a claimed member of this site said your Hazard article stated he wasn't a going to be in the future returns and it was better to get Mata. You clarified otherwise.

        I respect your option, but think you jump the gun too often like your Holy Trinity article. Many players wild carded and blew up their teams to get those three players and now Tevez is a rotation risk and Hazard is less involved than Mata. And Rooney will complicate things for RVP going forward. I think your articles should emphasize more longer term planning than the flavor of the month.

        I know you have had a hard on for Baines for several years, but when your site stated that Ivanovic was a rotation risk due to their new signing, many got rid of him for Baines, me included. If I had known Iva would have continued to start, I would have kept him as I had in from the beginning before the price rises.

        Your site is a plethora of information for th EPL and I appreciate it.

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    18. Doolittle
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Well, I've been a member since the start of the season and think the advice from contributors has been excellent. There is always an element of luck in this game - no one can fully know what will happen - but all opinions are based on stats and knowledge. Unfortunately, the comment sections have many cases of poor judgement - largely from people like you.

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    19. Mason
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Go figure it out on your own then. Faggot. ping pong is also a faggot who should stick to reading his Match magazine and leave Fantasy Football to the adults.

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  30. Lrf
    14 years, 1 month ago

    36 from 9 (but one of the players left is Demel). Up to RvP(c) to make it an ok week.

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