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12 October 2012 1408 comments
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This week on the virtual physio plinth, we turn our attentions to Quadriceps: Guy Demel sustains a strain against the Gunners whilst Gaston Ramirez ‘cops a corky’ in training.

Gaston Ramirez
Canny early adopters of the Fray Bentos born Gaston Ramirez were left looking for the nearest ‘pie-can’ to kick after news filtered through from Southampton of a potential six-week absence for their record summer signing.

Nigel Adkins described the injury as a serious “dead leg” proclaiming that:

“The muscle swelled up very much because there was nowhere for the blood to go, so there was a lot of pressure on his thigh…He has had to have a couple of days in hospital to try and relieve the pressure, so obviously he is not going to go and join the Uruguayan team over the international break.”

This type of injury is usually caused by a blunt trauma to the quadriceps. Often an opposing player’s knee sandwiches the Quadricep muscles between the Femur (thigh bone, see illustration below), resulting in a crush or compressive lesion, known as a Quadriceps Contusion/Haematoma, or, colloquially, as a ‘Dead-Leg,’ ‘Charley Horse,’ or ‘Corked Thigh/Corky.’ This category of injury commonly elicits bleeding, swelling and subsequent haematoma formation within the muscle.

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The swelling the player reportedly suffered and his subsequent hospital treatment indicates a significant injury occurred, and also gives us a considerable clue to the type of contusion sustained.

There are two types; the first, termed Intra-Muscular, describes an injury to the muscle belly but the fascia or sheath that surrounds it remains undamaged. Here, the escaped blood and fluids are localised and pool in the muscle, unable to drain or change location due the fascia compartmentalising the leakage. The second type of contusion, Inter-Muscular describes damage to the muscle and to the fascia, here the bleeding takes longer to stop (due to decreased pressure) but the players recovery is often speedier as the fluids extravasate more efficiently. Thus, armed with Nigel Adkins’ summary we may infer that Ramirez suffered an Intra-Muscular Quadriceps haematoma/contusion.

The severity of the injury is indicated by its grading with grade 1 lesions reflecting minor tightness with little or no swelling; ‘niggles,’ that can sometimes be ‘run-off’ during a match. A grade 2 contusion would elicit a clearly presentable antalgic gait, with some swelling, pain on palpation and resisted contraction plus restricted range of movement at the knee joint, whilst a grade 3 indicates that ambulation will be severely restricted and crutches will usually be prescribed as an aid, the patient will be in severe pain and a static contraction would probably produce a bulge in the muscle. Grade 3 injuries have a rehabilitation time of anything from three to twelve weeks. Weighing up the available evidence, it would seem that Ramirez suffered a grade 3 intra-muscular quadriceps contusion, the most severe in both categories.

This is an interesting one for us physiotherapists. If certain modalities, such as heat and massage, are administered too early, or if treatment is too aggressive initially, a condition known as Myositis Ossificans (bone forming within the muscle) may develop, which is why swift action to drain the wound occurred. The Uruguayan’s initial rehabilitation will involve controlling the pain and swelling before flexibility and mobility work is undertaken. Once range of motion at the knee joint is nearing optimal, strength work will be introduced. For a grade 2 contusion the strength stage would take about a week to reach and a grade 3 possibly ten days but more likely two weeks from the date of injury.

In terms of a time-scale prognosis, minor, grade 1 quadriceps contusions may often be ‘run-off’ during a match or resolved within a week. Grade 2 injuries would require one to three weeks to dissipate, whilst grade 3 injuries may require anything from three to 12 weeks rehabilitation. Current reports suggest a six-week hiatus for the Saints’ starlet, however; Premier League football clubs have access to the best medics, facilities and treatments available.

There are a battery of modalities available to the physiotherapist to nurture optimal rehabilitation for this type of injury and highly trained athletes usually respond well to Quadricep contusions, which makes me think that six weeks is a little pessimistic and although three weeks is possible, perhaps a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back around the four week mark, which would see him remain absent for West Ham and Spurs but West Brom on November 5 becomes a distinct possibility. A state of affairs that brings Adam Lallana sharply into focus as the main fulcrum of creativity for the Saints.

Guy Demel
Reports suggest that popular Fantasy asset Guy Demel sustained an injury to the Quadricep group of muscles in his match against Arsenal last weekend, prompting Sam Allardyce to speculate…

“I think Guy Demel has pulled a thigh muscle and that could be four weeksâ€

The footage verifies this as we see a frustrated Demel being led from the pitch by the physio, his gait, indeed, inferring Quadricep involvement. However, encouragingly for owners, the Ivory Coast full-back is able to weight bear almost fully on the affected thigh as he walks to the dug-out and, although a limp was evident, it wasn’t overly pronounced and his movement suggested the injury, in my eyes, as not significantly serious.

The Quadriceps (translated as ‘four heads’) are a large group of four muscles covering the entire front of the thigh and are served by a voluminous blood supply and therefore heal quickly as long as there is no tendon involvement. Additionally, professional footballers have strong and heavily trained Quadricep muscles, which can also precipitate swift healing times. From the footage I feel Allardyce is being a little pessimistic and, in this instance, the International break has fallen kindly for Demel’s many Fantasy owners.

The latest news reports from the Ivory Coast suggest that Demel travelled with The Elephants squad this week to be assessed by their own medics. Although at this point his fitness is still unconfirmed, it does offer us further insight into the severity of the injury, again, inferring only a minor strain, which, barring complications, should see the Hammers full-back in contention for the visit of Southampton following the International sojourn.

  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    Well ... Wellbeck! 🙂

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      Decent performance from him 🙂

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  2. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    Ricky Cash – Arsenal Gunners25 minutes ago
    I must say that Cazorla has really injected true power into this Spain side. Before Spain were the king of lucky 1-0 wins. Now they can actually score more than 1 goal in a match thanks to the power and skill of Cazorla who can create as the main man for Spain.

    My powerful England is doing work though right now and putting on a clinic of how to play the beauftiful game. We are showing why everyone is saying that England is the favorite for World Cup 2014. We are just stacked and loaded even moreso than Spain man.

    And in 2-3 years Ox will surpass Messi. Just in time for world cup glory!!!!!!!!!

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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      Another crazy,disillusional English fan talking smack!!

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      1. Epic Fail
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        You seem surprised.

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        1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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          Haha. You're right, I shouldn't be!

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    2. Scroobius Mac
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      Lolz, link?

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        goal.com 😀

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  3. Cantona90
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    Right. Two possible WC teams now:

    1)

    Begovic Foster
    Wilson Baines Vermaelen Hughes Barnett
    Bale Caz Silva Sterling Pienaar
    Berbatov Ba Giroud

    0.5m bank

    2)

    Begovic Foster
    Rafael Baines Cuellar Huth Hughes
    Bale Barfa Pienaar Sterling Morrison
    Berbatov Giroud RVP

    0.1m bank.

    :/

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    1. Epic Fail
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      B

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      1. Cantona90
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        cant see anyway to get any decent chelsea or city cover.

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        1. Epic Fail
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          Who do you want from Chelsea/City? You don't have to have their players for the sake of it.

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          1. Cantona90
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            I know but I'll panic if i don't. Don't think Chelsea can be ignored this year. Really hoping Oscar comes good in the prem for a cheaper alternative.

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    2. Evans
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      A

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  4. bantamdave
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    Any reason Eden Hazard taken off after 52 mins in Serbia tonight. Injured or tactical.

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    1. Scroobius Mac
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      Twitter reckons tactical.

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      1. SPorting
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        Twitter SMASH!

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      52:01
      [0-1] Lazar Markovic fouled by Axel Witsel,the ref awards a free kick.Axel Witsel is given a yellow card.Srdan Mijailovic restarts play with the free kick.
      53:50
      [0-1] Eden Hazard takes a shot.Matija Nastasic gets a block in.
      54:10
      [0-1] Inswinging corner from left by-line taken right-footed by Kevin De Bruyne(Belgium) to centre,save (caught) by Zeljko Brkic(Serbia).
      54:37
      [0-1] Eden Hazard goes off and Dries Mertens comes on.

      Looks like tactical

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      1. bantamdave
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        Cheers.

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  5. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Will somebody tell Welbeck its not the late 80's!

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      1. Cantona90
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        Clearly you're not into your fashion. It's making a big comeback, next summer everyone will be donning a flat top.

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    1. Epic Fail
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      Long way to go to reach Kid n Play territory.

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    2. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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      I wish the hi-top fade would make a comeback.

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  6. 4vets
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    Tevez to fall tonight. I've got Suarez's points and can swap them straight back if i want to. I like that.

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  7. Piggs Boson
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    Remember ladies
    http://tinyurl.com/8cxf2jt

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    1. 4vets
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      I might actually go for a "walk" tomorrow 😉

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        I was thinking the same 😉

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        1. 4vets
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          Sunglasses on 😉

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          1. Epic Fail
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            To cover the black eyes you're gonna get from the swinging old women titties?

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            1. 4vets
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              Actually, I just hope the good wife doesn't know about this no bra day. It could be carnage!

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            2. SPorting
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              they'll be tripping over them as they drag along the floor.

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    2. Home Run Baker
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      Does it apply to gravs?

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        Yes, yes it does 😀

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  8. Keep calm and hoof me the b…
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    Planning to get Berbatov in tonight to avoid a price fall on Tevez. Does anyone know if Berbs is gonna be fit by next weekend?

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    1. Home Run Baker
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      Seems very likely he'll be fit

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      Just wait. It's 0.1

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      1. Keep calm and hoof me the b…
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        Yeah I know. I'm falling way behind on team value though. I'm currently at only 102.9. Feels like I'm getting behind the curve

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          I am well behind you there.

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        2. jimski
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          Forget it - it doesn't really matter that match. Pick a team that does well and your value will go up anyway.

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    3. Evans
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      Must be ... He nearly played last weekend. How do you know tevez will drop

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      1. 4vets
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        Fiso says so.

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      2. Granville
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        It doesn't mean he wont get injured again in training. Trust me, I'm experienced now at this.

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        1. 4vets
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          I believe.

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        2. SPorting
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          *expert

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        3. Keep calm and hoof me the b…
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          Lolz. Thanks all. I think you've talked me back from the edge. I'm just getting very twitchy about team value, I've actually been going backwards the last few weeks.

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          1. Krionos
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            It's the points that count

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  9. Philman
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    I hate these interlulls. Weekends just aren't the same.

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    1. Smarty Pants
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      so do I

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    2. SPorting
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      that'll be to do with the clocks going back.

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  10. Fifa las vegas
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    Any injury concerns tonight?

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    1. Fifa las vegas
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      ???

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  11. Messiah Hazard
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    On a WC... Which do you recommend?

    A) Wilson and Britton
    B) Routledge and Fonte

    Both options are for players who will be warming the bench...

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    1. Epic Fail
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      B.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
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      B

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      A

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  12. Piggs Boson
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    Breaking news: God has finally smited Suarez.
    http://i.imgur.com/IFqTC.jpg

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    1. Evans
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      Harsh but fair

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    2. 4vets
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      Nah, that was just his teeth whitening job.

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    3. Cantona90
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      what the bejesus. That cannot be a real photo surely?

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      1. 4vets
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        Yes... the lightening is overexposed so it seems bigger than it really was.

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        1. Cantona90
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          Ah. Gonna say. Thought it was the start of the apocalypse.

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          1. 4vets
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            I may be wrong though 😯

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            1. SPorting
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              I did see four horsemen earlier.

              no, sorry, that was Suarez and his teeth again.

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              1. 4vets
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                30 white stallions?

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  13. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Darren O'Dea retires from International football...

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    1. Evans
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      And Craig levin

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  14. r0nh
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    So, RVP's price has dropped... like I predicted

    It will fall again in the next few weeks.

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    1. Cantona90
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      Well done. Here's a blue peter badge.

      For all those who aren't in the magicians circle and cannot see into the future:

      http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Wow you predicted the future...

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    3. Epic Fail
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      Well done, Meg.

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    4. SPorting
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      so RVP dropped.

      now it's time for your balls to do the same.

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    5. 4vets
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      It dropped a few days ago, well caught up.

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      1. r0nh
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        Sorry for working & not checking the prices every day during the internationals!

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        1. SPorting
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          your loss.

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          1. r0nh
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            How is it my loss?!

            I never had RVP

            The value of my players have increased...

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            1. 4vets
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              You're thrashing me on the team value front, but you're going to want to sell some of those players soon!

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            2. SPorting
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              your loss that you don't check the prices.

              keep flippin those burgers Ronald.

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        2. Piggs Boson
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          Where do you work Ronald?

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          1. 4vets
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            McD's 🙂

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        3. TorresMagic™
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          What do you do for work Ronh?

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          1. r0nh
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            Quantity surveying, so was away this week, no internet on-site ðŸ™

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            1. Evans
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              QS ... Tidy

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        4. 4vets
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          Far too casual!

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  15. Fifa las vegas
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    Kagawa to whom, for 8.9?

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    1. Home Run Baker
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      Mata

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        Good call.

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      2. Fifa las vegas
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        What about the Spur's fixture though?

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        1. Fifa las vegas
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          Any other ideas for my team?

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        2. r0nh
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          Mata signed for Spurs?

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          1. Fifa las vegas
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            No, i just mean he's playing them next

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            1. 4vets
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              So?

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            2. Piggs Boson
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              Mata relishes the big games.

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              1. Fifa las vegas
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                Can i wait another few days without worrying about price rises?

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                1. 4vets
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                  Yes, but check Fiso regularly. Kags is -69% and Mata is +66%. You should be ok for the w/e assuming no-one goes crazy.... oh.

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  16. Epic Fail
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    There's something rather fishy about all this Jimmy Saville business.

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    1. Home Run Baker
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      His fingers?

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      1. Epic Fail
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        Quite possibly.

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    2. 4vets
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      *Savile... as in vile.

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      1. SPorting
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        JimmyS a vile ....

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  17. Evs
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    🙂

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      I honestly thought Scotland would win that. All hail Bale!

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        Ooh, Swansea v Wigan next gameweek Evs! Good luck, i'm in good UEFA form 😉

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        1. Evs
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          I'll need it GB, my worst GW in 4 seasons last week... I'm not a happy bunny.

          Haven't though what I'm doing next but, will lock myself away under the stairs ala Harry Potter to plot my resurgence 😉

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          1. Piggs Boson
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            Well to give you an edge, i think i'm set on Suarez(C). Not sure sure how you can use that, but good luck 😉

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            1. Evs
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              Could be a good shout v a poor Reading.

              I'm probably going Robin (yawn)

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              1. Piggs Boson
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                Never a bad shout. Returns in every start so far, and he's due a goal.

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    2. SPorting
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      😳

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      1. Epic Fail
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        😯

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        1. Piggs Boson
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          👿

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    3. 4vets
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      I like to see a happy person!

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    4. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      ðŸ™

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    5. Evs
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      Bale was unplayable.

      If he had a decent forward.... Ahh.

      Great game mind, and credit to or Celtic cousins too (except Charlie Adam 😉 )

      I tell you what though, I'm keeping fpl wise.... Roll on Adebayor.

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      1. 4vets
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        So you're agreeing with Doos and reckon Bale over Silva?

        Hold those emotions down and be objective!

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        1. Evs
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          ' agreeing with Doos ' 😯

          Now I am stumped ?!?!!!!

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          1. 4vets
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            It's a tricky conundrum for sure 😉

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  18. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
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    So it's clear Berbatov isn't gonna drop again. What to do now is the question.

    Hazard Bale Pienaar Michu Guthrie
    Tevez RVP Zamora

    .5 in the bank. Hazard -- Carzola and Zamora -- Berbatov the obvious solution but hate -4's

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    1. Krionos
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      That team is good to go for this week. Don't see why you would want to do a 4 point hit...

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      1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
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        No Arsenal is scaring the shit out of me though, especially as i sold Carzola -- Bale last week

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  19. Home Run Baker
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    RVP didn't play for Holland today

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      Good news.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
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      Good

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    3. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
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      Happy days. Someone was slobberin on about him droppin in price in the week. I hope he can afford him when he ignites!!!!!

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    4. Epic Fail
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      Possibly nursing an injury 😯

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      1. 4vets
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        Probably injured next week (sigh)

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  20. Fifa las vegas
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    I'm still debating a wildcard anyone think i should?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Someone who I am ahead of. 🙂

      Problems everywhere apart from forwards, I'd WC.

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  21. Evans
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    Not sure about this article ... Just need to know when the player is back not an A level in biology

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    1. 4vets
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      No-one will ever supply your needs unless they are involved with whatever player. I love the tech talk!

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    2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
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      Are you paying membership?

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      1. Evans
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        What difference does that make ?

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  22. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Did Bale not blatantly dive for that penalty tonight? Or am I just seeing things...

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    1. Evs
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      Correct, he didn't.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        You sure about that? Looked like a dive...

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Bale beat 2 me ran into the box, Maloney cut across the back of him causing his left ankle to collide with his right calf and be tripped.

          Minimal contact by Malomey, but contact all the same which lead to a foul inside the box.

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          1. heartsattack
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Unfortunately you are correct.

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        2. Spike âš½ï¸
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Ev's opinions are far more credible than yours will ever be !!

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          1. Evs
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            😉

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          2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            +1

            no doubt about that

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          3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            In my defence the angle they showed on sky sports news...it looked a dive...

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            1. Evs
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              • 16 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              They probably trying to make him look a tw4t !

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  23. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    What order for this lot for the next 3 weeks

    a) RVP
    b) Ba
    c) Tevez
    d) Aguero
    e) Berbatov
    f) Rooney
    g) Giroud
    h) Jelavic

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Alphabetical?

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        In the form of aedcfhgb etc.

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      2. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        What difference?

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          There you go...

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    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Reverse chronological

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    3. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Aguero
      RVP
      Rooney
      Giroud
      Ba
      Jelly
      Berb
      Tevez

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Looks like player value determines it to a point.

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    4. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      D, A, E, B, H, C, G, F

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  24. DV8R
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    I wasn't impressed with England's performance tonight. Yes it's a win, but I expected more from them considering how bad San Marino are

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      It's always difficult when a team is parked in the box like that but i agree. We'll see what stage they're really at in their their next match.

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    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      That's the trouble, we always do expect too much.5-0 will do me

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Exactly right Reedy. Any excuse to be disappointed

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    3. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Sometimes it's harder to play against the wee teams when your camped in their half for 85% of a game and the blanket defence is deployed.

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      They thought they were Barca/Spain but didn't have the talent. Despite the score, it was a bit embarrassing.

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  25. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Should I sell Ramirez then ðŸ™

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Aye, why not.... You only live once 🙂

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Aye. I will be some time next week.

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    3. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      no, sell him now.

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        😆 ... first one of the night!

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        1. SPorting
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          huh? what?

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Your post got my first real "laugh out loud" moment of the night!

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            1. SPorting
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              ah, gotcha.

              you're welcome. although I never believe anyone if they type LOL.

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  26. E_John
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Any ideas on what to do with my team thinking of downgrading Kagawa or waiting for next week to do double transfer Kagawa –> Cazola and Duff –> mid 6.0 and below. I have 0.8 in the bank. Also any ideas on captain and starting team.

    Jussi (Bego)

    Jenkinson, A Cole, Rafael (Reid, Clyne)

    Peinaar, Duff, Hazard, Yaya (Kagawa)

    Fletcher, Torres, Suarez

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    1. Evans
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Swap kagawa for carzola

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  27. heartsattack
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    So glad Fabio Borini managed to find a house ok. Being Liverpool is such an exciting show.

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  28. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Falcao goal!

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  29. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone thinking of selling Tevez this week? On WC & still don't know what to do with him. Going down 0.1 tonight or tomorrow.

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Toyed with it TM, but have other fish to fry.... Carlos could well come up trumps v WBA 🙂

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    2. Evans
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Keeping

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      1. Reedy
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Me too!

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    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I do not have him but have no idea why anyone would sell him now. He's nailed on for the next gw and City's are prime. I almost want to get him in!

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      1. Evans
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        That's the only sensible comment you've ever made

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Thank you! 🙂

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        *City's fixtures.... sorry.

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  30. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    I'm thinking Muthersucker for BST cheap route into arsenal back 4 ( in on a tight budget )....

    Anyone think no?

    (I'm guessing Jemkinson maybe ousted soon by Sagna )

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      *Best, not BST.

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      No. Koscielny will get plenty of starts.

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Only missed one game so far, even on kosclieny return....

        An gooners about?

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    3. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      cheap ain't always cheerful.

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I'm just planning Sagna in a gw or 2. In fact, all my plans are about having the cash to do that.

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    5. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I thought your opinions were meant to be credible...massive rotation risk.

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    6. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Sounds risky. I thought he started the last match to counter Stoke's playing style. His he really a certain starter?

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