Dugout Discussion
20 October 2012 3627 comments
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The Gameweek’s events begin with a cracker. White Hart Lane hosts a London derby clash that promises fireworks, as Chelsea roll up to face their former boss, Andre Villas-Boas. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom, covering this and all today’s games, is now open.

With the talent and baggage on show at Spurs, surely this one can’t pass without incident and goals? Certainly owners of Eden Hazard will be banking on a high-scoring affair, though Gareth Bale’s owners have been dealt a huge blow after Spurs confirmed he is out of today’s match; his partner has apparently gone into labour. The team news from the Lane is as follows:

Spurs XI: Friedel; Walker, Caulker, Gallas, Vertonghen; Sandro, Huddlestone; Lennon, Sigurdsson, Dempsey; Defoe

Andre Villas-Boas makes three changes from the side that saw off Villa last time round. Brad Friedel returns in goal as Hugo Lloris drops to the bench, while Tom Huddlestone replaces Moussa Dembele in the double pivot. The Belgian was reported to have sustained a hip knock in Belgium’s win over Scotland but his manager had stated yesterday all his players returned fit and available from international duty. Dembele is not on the bench, though, which suggests he has picked up a problem. Gylfi Sigurdsson replaces Bale in the attacking midfield three.

Chelsea XI:Cech; Ivanovic, Luiz, Cahill, Cole; Ramires, Mikel, Oscar, Mata, Hazard; Torres

Chelsea make two alterations to their starting XI. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended John Terry in defence, while Frank Lampard drops to the bench, with Ramires taking his place alongside John Obi Mikel.

The early kick-off steers us into seven other matches, with Carrow Road hosting the final encounter as Santi and his Arsenal team-mates pay visit.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. dfroes
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Where is jennas? Is he still a totenham player? He is much beterr than hudlestone! Hudlestone is puré shit

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    1. sjp4. Differential FPL Andr…
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      He's at Forest

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      1. big oak
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        on loan to get back to match fitness. right?

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        1. sjp4. Differential FPL Andr…
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          He could be back next week, unless they extend

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    2. FPLCEO
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      JJ is terrible

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  2. elkunaguero
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    Dempsey useless as a winger...

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    1. The Finnisher
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      Sigurdsson is on the wing isn't he?

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
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        They keep swapping, both are useless

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        1. The Finnisher
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          It's just I only noticed Dempsey when he was in the middle, that says everything really.

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        2. Billy Gilmore
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          +1 They have both been terrible today.

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      2. elkunaguero
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        they're switching, but Dempsey just cant play when he has the ball on the left flank

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        1. The Finnisher
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          Aye, they desperately need Bale, and Dembele.

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  3. Evs
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    I maybe behind the times today but... Surely you can't giv hazard that assist?

    How can that be an assist.

    Off gallas yes. Hazard played it nowhere near Cahill !

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    1. r0nh
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      Shut up.

      Zzzzzzzzz

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      1. Evs
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        Erm, FOOK off

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    2. Rafabio
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      Last offensive player to touch the ball, just the way it is.

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      1. Evs
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        Shocking though...

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    3. Mulder
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      I think it's a good rule otherwise FPL would just get spammed each week with people questioning every assist decision. Just make it the last person to touch the ball from the goalscorers team no matter how fluke that might be.

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      1. Granville
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        What if it brushes his shoelaces? Is that an assist?

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        1. Waldaz
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          UCL rules are much better in this case, clear assist or nothing. End of.

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          1. Jonah
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            There's no single rule which determines what a clear assist is.

            This current rule is to benefit players whose main role in the team is to supply crosses; they were getting a raw deal under the previous rules.

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        2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          those the rules

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        3. tm245
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          If he whispers "assist" during the buildup that represents intent so he gets it awarded as well...

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    4. Declan
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      Agreed

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    5. r0nh
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      Breaking news...

      If a striker scores a goal, he gets awarded 4 points.

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  4. psyurmh
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    Annoying how 3 players touch the ball after Hazard and he gets the assist.

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  5. Jafooli
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    Ebanks-Blake.....

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  6. Crouch Potato!
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    Torres repeatedly lose's the ball.

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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      Yer__ he's only there to pull peeps off and confuse defenders.

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  7. The Finnisher
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    Where the hell is my Gallas assist? 😡

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    1. Jinswick
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      Gallas to get sent off in the 2nd half...

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      1. The Finnisher
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        Aye, he's looking a bit uncomfortable there, after he was actually quite good vs United and Villa.

        As long as he makes it for Wigan at home in 2 GW's I'll be fine. 🙂

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        1. Jinswick
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          🙂 Ivanovic also a contender for a red if this carries on being a feisty game!

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  8. Stephen - Robot Daniels
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    With RDM being such a fan of 58th minute substitutions, which player will he sacrifice today?

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    1. FPLCEO
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      Oscar

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Dempsey, let us hope ...

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        Him or Siggy.

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      2. The Bandit
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        Ermmm... 🙂

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    3. The Finnisher
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      Hazard or Mata please 😀

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  9. Balotellitubbies
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    What happened to the price changes btw?

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    1. Declan
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      must've been a glitch, WC?

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  10. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    Chelsea haven't conceded a goal in the 2nd half since the start of the season.

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  11. COMH
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    FPL needs to update it's assist rule. Cross from Hazard, headed away from Gallas, volleyed by Cahill, slight deflection off Caulker but we'll give the assist to Hazard. Smart

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    1. Evs
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      They should be embarrased.

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    2. Son is Rising
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      I don't think we can complain, at least they are consistent. They even go as far as to review all the controversial point awards. When you think how bad it was a couple of years ago (assists given to wrong players and man in the stands giving 3 points every week to charlie adam) I think we have a lot to be grateful for tbh!

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      1. Just Ruud
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        Hehe, how i miss those Charlie Adam '3 bonus points a game' days...made captain choice so much easier 😉

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Just needs a line about a new phase of play. Of course, then we'd moan about what did or did not constitute a new phase of play!

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      1. COMH
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        Yeah maybe that would just be another grey area. I just don't like these indirect assists.

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  12. Granville
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    Freidel would have saved that Cahill goal if it weren't for the deflection.

    Spurs need to take off Siggy, he's poor. Not sure about Ade for him though, that would be suicide.

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    1. Podge
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      I blame Bale's wife, all her fault really 🙂

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      1. Kostja
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        its Terrys baby :D, he planned this shhhht 😀

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        1. Rafabio
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          Banned and still influencing things on the pitch! Top man...

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      2. night owl
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        She's naming the baby Chelsea if it's a girl

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    2. Kostja
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      I don't agree as Defoe could play a bit deeper like he has in past years in the place of VDV

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Siggy should have played through Dempsey earlier...they have no chemistry because they're subbed off for each other all the time.

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    4. big oak
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      correct
      but the only offensive player on their bench is adebayor
      who's that falqe btw?

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    5. The Finnisher
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      You don't think
      -------Sandro-----Huddlestone-------
      ---Lennon---Defoe---Dempsey----
      --------------Adebayor------------------
      Could work?
      Who else do they have though? Townsend?

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      1. Granville
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        13 years, 2 months ago

        What about Livermore for Siggy and then Adebayor for Dempsey.

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        1. The Finnisher
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          Yeah that could work too, either way I don't think they can have both Dempsey and Sigurdsson on the field the way they are playing.

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        2. big oak
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          that would be adebayor for lennon and this will be a diamond midfield with demps at the top of the diamond

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      2. Rafabio
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        Yeah, Townsend is on the bench and available...

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      3. AAAAA
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        Defoe can't play in the hole. He only shoots! It takes a miracle for him to pass.

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  13. Rafabio
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    Walker booked...

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  14. Gobigorgohome
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    OH Please Vertonghen! Please do not get booked.

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    1. Podge
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      1 point get real

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  15. cruzex
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    Bale Out!!!! Why?

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    1. DLL18
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      His wife's birthing a small primate.

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    2. Podge
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      Wife in labour

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    3. Declan
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      He's in labour

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  16. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    Vertonghen is a beast. One of the best defenders in the EPL.

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    1. Gobigorgohome
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      He was the best player of the Dutch League last year!

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    2. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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      I got him in. Hes got a rocket foot as well 🙂

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    3. FPLCEO
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      Yup awesome

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    4. Crouch Potato!
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      Should have marked Cahill then if he's so bloody good!

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  17. Rafabio
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    Ramires booked...

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  18. Ginkapo FPL
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    Someone is gonna get sent off

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    1. Bad Pen
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      Yep, would be interesting if it was a Chelski player...

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  19. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Scattering yellow confetti ...

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  20. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    Come on a spurs goal!

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  21. Paul Psychic Octopus
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    Idiot commentator on Sky...

    'Apart from the penalty spot, Lampard hasn't scored for a long, long time'

    Apart from the goal in Chelsea's last game against Norwich then.

    Do these guys ever do their research??

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  22. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    Would make my day for Iva to get a Red card.

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    1. The Finnisher
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      I can't believe you ditched Kolarov for a hit after all you were saying these past two weeks 😀

      And why Gibbs out before QPR (H)?

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      1. Crouch Potato!
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        Worth noting, QPR may not have been winning, but have been scoring.

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      2. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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        Gibbs was a huge fail on my part. This guy is made out of glass. and i havent got the funds to back kolarov up if he doenst play. Sometimes you have to put your hand up and say last week was a fail. But then again i didnt expect Gibbs to be out injured after 55 minutes. like i said. last 3 weeks have all balls. Starting with fletcher not rising after reaching 97 :(. God that still pisses me off.

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      would ruin mine

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  23. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Did the Sky sports guy just say Gay-hill?

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    1. F is for
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      Yes he did, I was shocked aswell lol.

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  24. Evs
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    Right, Scarelts now... Heinieken Cup.

    Come on 🙂 !

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    1. Evs
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      * Scarlets even.

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    2. Declan
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      Leinster, Leinster, Leinster......

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      1. Evs
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        Oi, they don't need any help 🙁

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        1. Declan
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          0-3 2 min 😎

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          1. Evs
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            😥

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  25. Scribe
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    Yellow bukkake

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    1. Son is Rising
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      don't google that....

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    2. bdwhite91
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      blue waffle

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  26. Waldaz
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    Cahill on course to be once again a defender as top player of the gameweek?

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  27. FORCA INTER
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    i've seen that a lot of people says that siggy is poor

    in my opinion Dempsey is poor as him and even worst today

    spurs really missed dembele and bale

    compleatly different team without 2 of them

    lennon at his own

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    1. Scribe
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      Dempsey is a yank......he is used to playing soccer.....so we give him the benefit of the doubt

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    2. FPLCEO
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      VDV is who is really missing

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  28. Yossi
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    Great performances so far from the whole midfield, Mikel fantastic as usual... Torres and Luiz still huge liabilities though....

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    1. The Finnisher
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      I'm so annoyed DemBale are out, I was looking forward to this game but I think it's been ruined.

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      1. Scribe
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        Once Siggy goes off , ade comes on....and fat boy Hud starts throwing his ample moobs about, Spuds should get a draw

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  29. pjomara
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    It must be tough for bale's partner going through the birthing process if the baby has it's father's ears. They could cause a lot of damage on the way out.

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    1. big oak
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      dnt worry he'll have JT's

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      1. Scribe
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        and Rio's ears

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  30. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Huddlestone needs to show some personality, well capable of dictating the game for Spurs but shying away from the ball. Great passing range on him, needs to lift it.

    Mikel has been the best player on the pitch.

    Would bring Ade on and play him just off Defoe. Siggurdson is out of his depth. Target man behind poacher often works well.

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