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4 January 2013 1610 comments
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Chelsea have this afternoon confirmed the signing of Demba Ba from Newcastle on a three-and-a-half-year contract. Having triggered the £7m release clause in the Senegalese’s contract, the Blues moved quickly to address a distinct lack of forward options – with Daniel Sturridge moving to Liverpool and Romelu Lukaku remaining on loan at West Brom, the Champions League winners have been relying solely on Fernando Torres up top this term:

In spite of a recent upturn in output from Torres since the dismissal of Roberto Di Matteo, reinforcements have been badly needed. Ba – with an average better than a goal every other game in the English top flight – will be sorely missed by the Magpies but was keen to move on after a successful season-and-a-half on Tyneside:

“It feels good to be here, I’m very happy and very proud. It was important for me, and for Newcastle, to get my future sorted and now we can move on. Now they have the whole month to buy someone and for me as well, the sooner the better. Now I am here I just need to get settled in. When the club who won the Champions League wants you, the decision is very easy. This club is massive and that’s something that helped the decision a lot. It was not a hard one.”

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The French-born Ba had unsuccessful trials with both Lyon and Auxerre before making his way to England, where he was offered a one-year deal at Watford. Let go by Hornets boss Aidy Bothroyd in March 2005, he returned to France to sign for Rouen – there, he demonstrated his potential, with 22 goals in 26 appearances, before being snapped up by Belgian outfit Mouscron. In spite of an injury-ravaged season, he still managed eight goals in 12 matches before German outfit Hoffenheim came calling.

Ba produced 37 goals in 97 appearances, helping the club clinch promotion to the Bundesliga, before he was on the move again. After failing medicals with both Stuttgart and Stoke, he clinched a short-term deal with West Ham on a “pay as you play” basis, due to concerns over a knee injury. His impact at Upton Park was immediate and demonstrated his suitability to England’s top flight, with seven goals accrued in just 12 appearances in a season that saw the Hammers relegated to the Championship.

Newcastle moved quickly to secure his signature last season and, despite a poor second half to the campaign as a result of a shift out wide to accommodate new boy Papiss Cisse, Ba still managed to register 16 goals and five assists in 34 appearances. Moved back to a central berth this term, Ba’s output has been crucial to the Magpies – 13 goals and three assists over 20 league matches sums up his ability to produce. So far, then, his time in England has harvested 36 goals and eight assists from just 66 appearances.

The Prospects

From a Fantasy perspective, the move will be greeted with some trepidation. Ba has been superb value this season – beginning at 7.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) he had started every league game when available for Alan Pardew but Benitez’s penchant for a 4-2-3-1 system means the new boy will likely fight it out with Torres for game time from here on in.

Speaking earlier this week, Benitez hinted at his plans to rotate his compatriot, who has started all 21 league games so far:

“Fernando is one of the players who needs to rest…if you have another striker you can play with two strikers if you need to. Or if you want to rest a striker then you can do that and at the moment we are a bit short.”

Looking at the statistics, though, Ba has played just 42 minutes less than Torres so far, suggesting he’s unlikely to be guaranteed a run of starts. Unfortunately for Fantasy managers, consistency of selection is not Benitez’s forte – we only have to look at Wednesday’s home defeat by QPR, where both Juan Mata and Eden Hazard were omitted from the starting line-up, to remind ourselves how detrimental the interim manager’s tinkering can be to our Fantasy fortunes. Going on the comments above, Benitez may revert to a front two when chasing games but aside from that, Ba and Torres are likely to be victims of his rotational whims – fatigue (or a lack of) will be a key factor in both players’ upcoming game time. The one factor in Ba’s favour, however, is that he is ineligible for Europa League duties, having already played in the competition for Newcastle this season – a factor to consider when the Blues square up to Sparta Prague in mid-February.

Frustratingly, the move comes just hours after news broke that Chelsea have a potential double Gameweek 22 on the horizon. Depending on the result of their FA Cup clash with Southampton tomorrow, the Blues could face a pair of games against Stoke and the Saints next time out but doubts will already be creeping in over Ba’s pitch time – can we really rely on Benitez not to tinker? The only hope is that he’ll have learnt from the QPR loss; that he’s realised he simply cannot afford to make too many alterations if he’s looking for the silverware that could keep him in the Stamford Bridge hotseat beyond the end of this season.

Ironically, the Ba move is likely to boost the prospects of Papiss Cisse, bringing the 8.8 priced Newcastle man back onto our Fantasy radars. The latter racked up 13 goals in 14 appearances playing through the middle in a 4-3-3 last season but has been a bitter disappointment this term for Newcastle, due to Ba’s move back to a central role. Alan Pardew revealed yesterday, however, that Cisse will be deployed centrally once again and with consistency of selection not an issue, he could prove the real beneficiary of today’s events.

Further Reference

Demba Ba Wikipedia
Demba Ba Statistics

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  1. 4vets
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    Please can Hazard not fall tonight? If the dgw goes ahead he'll surely start moving in the other direction tomorrow?

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    1. Optimus.
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      im on w/c ill bring him in just for you vets

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      1. 4vets
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        That's a beer I owe you... it's getting hard to ignore offers like this 😉

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        1. Optimus.
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          dont plant the seed in my brain as i open my 1st beer 😉

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    2. FPL Touches
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      I sold him last night for Bale.

      What a tit I am 🙁

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  2. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    3 players currently under the radar to do well for the rest of the season fpl wise

    1. Pablo Hernandez
    2. Pappa Cisse
    3. Bent when he moves ..........

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      yes to 1 and 2

      3...get bent?

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      1. 4vets
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        I'll call you.

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      2. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        can see QPR buying darren bent

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    2. Dr Dream
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      yes, yes, who knows...Not the only ones though...If anybody needs to catch somebody up they could damn near change their entire team in the WC to a bunch of under achievers or new arrivals..and why not ?...no point replicating your league leaders team, that won't catch you up...

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        + 1

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  3. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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    I'll keep steady through these DGWs...have Mata, Walcott, and O'Brien...no one else is needed

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    1. Dial Square
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      as a Torres, Theo, Caz, Gibbs, O'Brien, Punch, Cole owner looking to buy Mata and Luiz I beg to differ 🙂

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      bench warmer not as good as fletch

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      1. Dial Square
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        but it could mean someone interesting coming in to Swansea

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  4. FPL Touches
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    Aspiring rising tonight...

    If that's the case I can't afford my perfectly planned WC 👿

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    1. 4vets
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      There will be new transfers in by the end of Jan that will change everything...

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      1. Dago
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        yep and thats when my wildcard will be used to get out of January tidy.

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        1. 4vets
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          SNAP!

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          1. Dago
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            actually quite gutted about the DGW's and January Wildcard, for the first time all season I actually quite like the look of my team minus a few tweeks.

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            1. 4vets
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              Same here for me. Can only see 3 or 4 transfers at the end Jan at the mo. Of course, things will change 🙂

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            2. Doolittle
              • 13 Years
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              ^ This. But Lateriser's strategy is making me think I could use it to my advantage.

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      2. FPL Touches
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        Original WC intact in case of emergency, although do you think there will be any more big hitters? I think the only arrival that would tempt me into a WC would be a 11-12m striker

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        1. 4vets
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          No-one knows... I am sure something will happen though, it always does even if I can't remember past moves 🙂

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  5. bdwhite91
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    There's a chance of a Chelsea DGW this week?

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Yup, Chelsea vs Soton so long as someone wins tomorrow.

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      1. SpinyNorman [*_*]
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        And if it's a draw?

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        1. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          That space will be used for the replay.

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  6. Stephen - Robot Daniels
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    Who would consider both mata & hazard with Ba for the DGW?

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    1. elwardio
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      0/

      be concerned about Ba's game time though obviously

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      1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
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        Already have Ba though, would get in mata and hazard for -4

        Other than that its Gaston, Lambert is out of the picture as I'd have to remove either Ba which make no sense or Berb who is at home to Wigan to make room.

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    2. Feed the Yak and he will sc…
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      only the insane

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  7. Gazza2000
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    Begovic – Foster
    Baines – Gibbs – Cuellar – Nelsen – O'Brien
    Bale – Mata – Cazorla – Michu – Puncheon
    Suarez – Ba – Berbatov

    1FT, 1.3 in the bank

    a) Foster -> Turnbull
    or
    b) Baines + Puncheon -> Azpilicueta + Fellaini -4

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  8. SPorting
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    who won?

    was it a draw?

    is the DGW22 going ahead or not?

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    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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      the match is tmrw

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      1. SPorting
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        i know but it seems like the rest of the world doesn't.

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    2. Golden Oldies
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      I think the chances of the DGW happening are very very very very very very slim.....after the upset by QPR Chelsea will come out very strong

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      1. Nice to Michu
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        12 years, 11 months ago

        which means you think Chelsea will win? which means the DGW will happen in GW22. It will only not happen if tomorrow's FA Cup match is a draw

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      2. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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        the dgw only doesn't happen if theres a draw...basically, it'll happen

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      3. Feed the Yak and he will sc…
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        you mean chance is huge then.-.-

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      4. Golden Oldies
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        Aha..had a quick glace and picked it up wrong...

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  9. SpinyNorman [*_*]
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    I have no idea what's going on... but is this still a good team for the next gw?

    Foster
    Gibbs / Cameron / Reid
    Walcott / Fellani / Michu / Mata
    RVP / Ba / Defoe

    Subs: Federici / Sterling, Davies, Clyne

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  10. Acquafresca
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    A) Bale > Mata (-4)
    B) Bale+ Tremmel > Mata+Turnbull (-8)
    C) Jan WC

    Currently have no Chelsea cover.

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    1. Dago
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      I answered on previous page.

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      1. Acquafresca
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        I only have 1 WC. Even if i do Fellaini to Mata its for a -8 and would lose Sagna for a 4.1

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        1. Dago
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          wow Im surprised it will take three transfers to get him in. C then Im afraid.

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          1. Acquafresca
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            Not 3 trades. 2

            I stupidly brought in Obrien for Gallas as an early transfer.

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      2. elwardio
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        C

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  11. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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    how my proposed moves look?

    foster begovic
    nelson cameron nastasic demel hughes
    michu mata cazorla bale puncheon
    rvp berba suarez

    this gw
    nelson to shaw FT

    next gw
    bale to nolan FT
    hughes to gibbs/sagna FT [also leaves money for hits if wanted]

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    1. 4vets
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      You don't prefer Theo to Nolan?

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      1. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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        Kknda but want whm coverage for the qpr home fixture

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        1. 4vets
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          QPR seem to be improving with every game. I didn't watch the Chelsea game but that was a warning, imho.

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    2. Jonny
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      keep bale surely.

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    3. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      And wildcard after gw23

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  12. UnitednationsXI
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    Begovic Mannone
    Rafael cueller demel Davies Hughes
    Bale michu Walcott fellaini sterling
    Rvp berbs Suarez

    I think I have a good team so surely it's not worth using my WC...with 2 hits I can get 2 chel players and 3ars/whm players for the Dgw.....

    @lateriser, since rvp Suarez bale michu Walcott begovic are there for the season....taking out fellaini (playin swans at home) berbs (Wigan at home) isn't worth it surely...so the only variable is sterling out of the front 8.

    So, I think I will stick to my initial plan to use th WC in gw24.

    Opinions?

    Hoping for a draw tomz:D

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    1. 4vets
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      Agreed on all counts... especially the draw!

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  13. New Ghost
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    West Ham owner's son apologizes for Chamakh signing:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-sign-arsenal-striker-1518261

    🙂

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    1. Optimus.
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      great confidence boost for chamakh if hes able to read

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      1. 4vets
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        Text to speech...

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    2. 4vets
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      He's due a big slapping!

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    3. Smakies
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      i wonder how abramovich's son reacted when they signed Torres 🙂

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    4. Mílanista
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      😀 What a plank

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    5. Somalion
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      That's a bit of a shit-head thing to do.

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  14. AAAAA
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    How is the Hotlby lad that Spurs got? Is it true that Arsenal were in for him or is it just tabloid talk..

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  15. fatherted
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    Any ideas how long Cech will be out for???

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    1. Jonny
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      3 weeks is what i heard

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      1. SL8
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        anyone know why a recall for Thibaut Courtois is not possible this month? or is it?

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  16. Super John McGinn-
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    Is it best to use my wildcard now or wait until after DGW? Prices are rising and I have planned my team out and have 0.2 spare, but the prices of my players i want in might have risen by then?

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    1. dogtanion
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      see what injuries/ etc happen tomorrow..I don't think there'll be any significant players rises or falls tonight...hold on until tomorrow then reassess

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      1. Super John McGinn-
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        okay will do thanks 🙂

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  17. djt
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    If, the dgw in gw22 is ago'er and all my players play both games, and the players ive got for the dgw in gw23 play both games, i'll have 35 players playing over 2 game weeks,(where as some will have the usuall 22) now that is a massive chance to catch up on my mini-league rivals, if all goes well 😉

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    1. dogtanion
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      west ham defenders/ southampton defenders/ arsenal defenders probably won't get a cleanie amongst them...I think these dgws are overhyped to be honest

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      1. Smakies
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        +1 i'm on a wc and i'll probably keep my normal team without toomuch dgw'ers, the normal mata,walcott,gibbs,o'brien will be okay for me

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      2. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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        true

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    2. Ad4m
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      That makes no sense- surely with 4 teams on DGW the most additional fixtures you can have is an additional 12 without transfers. Or are you already assuming a FT?

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      1. djt
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        Ive got 4 chelsea + 3 southampton for gw22, then i'll transfer 1 chel + 1 south out, for 1 arsenal + 1 w/ham, which will give me 3 from each, so if they all play both games, i will have 35 players playing over 2 gameweeks 🙂

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  18. Super John McGinn-
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    Is it worth using wildcard now and get in players that will rise to make in a tidy profit and then change to the team I want day before game, or should I wait until after DGW and do it then?

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    1. Feed the Yak and he will sc…
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      follow your guts?

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      1. Epic Fail
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        Don't be daft.

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    2. Stephen - Robot Daniels
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      You'll make nothing. There's pretty much no player movement at the mo and those due to rise will struggle to do so again before the deadline.

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  19. SpinyNorman [*_*]
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    If Chelski vs Soton is a draw, anyone have any idea when their DGW will be?

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  20. SuperOsçarBaby
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    how to take pic from your team and post it ?

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    1. SpinyNorman [*_*]
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      screenshot

      upload to tinypic

      copy and paste link

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
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        thanx

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  21. Doolittle
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    I'm now thinking Lateriser's strategy is the way to go.
    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/01/04/moving-target-demba-ba/comment-page-5/#comment-4799444

    Lateriser, do you have your other wildcard still intact? The fact that I still do is convincing me that this strategy is perfectly sound.

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    1. FPL Touches
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      Same here

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      1. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
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        The transfer window is still niggling though, making me think I'll have to use my other WC immediately after the 2nd DGW.

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  22. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    How about this if the dgw happens Foster and Michu (sell for 8) -> Turnbull and Hazard (-8)

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
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      Did you only buy Michu recently?

      I bought him @ £6.9m so I wouldn't sell.

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  23. SpinyNorman [*_*]
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    For the potential DGW in GW22:
    Mata, Ba, Clyne

    For the DGW in GW23:
    Gibbs, Walcott, Podolski, Reid

    That's okay, yes?

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  24. oscor5
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    maybe shaw instead of clyne??

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  25. chunk
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    How's this for my wildcard maybe

    Beogovic (Turnbull)

    Zabaleta Wisdom Davies (Mariappa) (O'neil)

    Walcott Michu Bale Fellani (Sterling)

    RVP Ba Suarez

    This is for after Arsenal DGW got Mertesacker Cazorla Wallcot O'Neil Noble at the moment . Team is linked

    What's everyone's thoughts please
    Is selling Shawx a mistake for 5.5 had him from beginning ?

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  26. bdwhite91
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    What are you Ba owners doing?

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    1. Ad4m
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      Rubbing hands hopefully

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      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
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        I'm so scared :/

        I have Luiz, Mata, and Ba for the potential DGW. Is that good enough you think?

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        1. Ad4m
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          snap- should do the job

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    2. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
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      Keeping for a while and hopefully banking a few hattricks when he gets 90min run outs...

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  27. Optimus.
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    remember everyone on w/c take out rvp hit confirm and just have a look at the team you could have without

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Wow Cool. I'll just get him back now...

      ACCESS DENIED

      😯

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      1. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
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        😀 i cant remember which poster did that last season and lost loads having to buy him back

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  28. Jonah Takalua
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    Anyone thinking of risking Ba transfer in? Probable start for the Stoke match , then either starting the Southampton match or on when the match is won to do a Ramires (against Villa)

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    1. bdwhite91
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      I'm afraid he won't get any minutes. Rafa loves Torres. I doubt he even wanted Ba

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    2. Optimus.
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      i can see him unveiled and starting the home game vs saints

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  29. Somalion
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    The way people are going on about Chamakh, I can only hope the lad proves everyone wrong. Good in the air and West Ham should suit him better. Meanwhile Giroud only has another 10 league appearances to better Chamakh's 1st season at Arsenal. Will he go a similar way?

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    1. Ad4m
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      I think he'll do OK - good to watch and I hope he gets the game time

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