This evening’s Members article takes a look over the action in Sunday’s Community Shield showdown between Arsenal and City. Having assessed Alexis Sanchez’ display our lunchtime Technical Area post, we delve into the data to discover for any hints of form ahead of the weekend Gameweek 1 deadline.
I've not been following things that closely in regards to rotating* cheap defenders and instead of just writing "which is the best cheap defender rotation", I decided to do a bit of research and check the fixtures, pre-season and managers' comments and put it to you lot to shoot down. Since we're talking about cheap defenders, I didn't get to scientific with my analysis.
From the teams with players I am mostly confident have nailed-on players for 4.5m**, here is what I consider to be the best rotating pairs for the first 10 weeks in rough order of preference:
SWA/HUL
HUL/QPR
STO/SUN
SWA/SUN
NEW/HUL
Notes:
- Cameron would be my choice from Stoke and I am not really sure he will start vs. Villa. His versatility should see him get a fair amount of gametime, but I'm still not completely confident.
- Taylor would seem to be nailed-on for Swansea
- Rio is my pick at QPR. I don't think he would move to a promoted side to sit at the bench at this stage in his career.
- Coloccini is my Newcastle pick
- Chester would be my Hull pick. Any thoughts on Rosenior being an alternative?
- O'Shea is my man for Sunderland
At the moment I am thinking of going with Swansea/Hull or Hull/QPR given the doubts over Cameron.
*I define rotating based on difficulty of fixture, not just home/away, although of course home/away does influence how I assessed the fixtures
**I may well have missed something so please chip in if you feel you know better. I have ommited AVL and WBA as I think they either don't have players for 4.5m or less that are nailed-on for the whole of the first 10 weeks (WBA) and I wouldn't play a defender from that club in my team (AVL), although Hutton will probably be my 5th defender.Open Controls
Helpful post as always trigger
I appreciate he's 5.0 but for me Caulker stands outOpen Controls5m for a defender from a promoted side is too much for me. Goal threat is too unpredictable with defenders to invest another 0.5m
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Pva for Sunderland
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Cheers tinkerman, always helpful posts.
Thinking about going pva NaylorOpen ControlsI really want a Sunderland defender but my (crude) analysis is tempting me to go with a Hull defender given their propensity to get predictable home clean sheets.
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Lovely Tink. This is my sort of analysis. KISS method ftw 😉
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Please remember to post your RMTs in the dedicated page here:
http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/11/rate-4/Open Controls
Highly over paying
Jim White @JimWhite 13m
Just heard that striker Shane Long is on the move again. £12m fee agreed to take him from Hull City to Southampton. #saintsfc #hcafcOpen Controls
Wtf?
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Screw you! 😉
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and what will 12m buy him 5 days before the season starts?
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£12m is why.
Open ControlsI doubt he wants to sell him but £12m for a player he payed £5m for 6 months ago and didn't exactly have a great season
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looks like soton made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
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Long's not doing too bad out of it either - and he frees up his Thursday evenings
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6 million striker @ Soton... yay! bojan escape plan
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The world has gone crazy
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THOUGHTS ON UNITED v VALENCIA
United looked comfortable in the first half defensively, as Valencia sat back and looked to counter, but were opened up too easily in the second half, when the opposition started to press higher up the pitch. Jones was the official Man of the Match with a good performance, and Tyler Blackett was also excellent, a more than capable replacement if Evans is injured.
Herrera was excellent in the first 45, and he, Fletcher and Mata played several dangerous through-balls for Rooney and Hernandez to run onto. On another day, United could have been 3 up by HT.
Rooney had 3 good chances: the penalty, failing to control Fletchers pass when one-on-one with the keeper, and a shot from the edge of the box which went just over. While he really should have scored, it is encouraging that he is getting opportunities and I just hope that he can convert one or two come Saturday.
Ashley Young may not be a great footballer, but he is a wonderful crosser of the ball. He played in 3 or 4 brilliant balls and also took a few corners. He looks a genuine short term prospect and is surely nailed on with fitness doubts surrounding Rafael, Valencia and Shaw.Open Controls
Them feckin apples....
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where was young fielded?
Open Controlshave a +1 btw, nice work
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Blackett an option with smelling out?
Open Controlssmalling is injured? i thought that was just a tactical substitution? evans didn't play today, have to wait for word on that, also they've bid for Rojo so too much doubt IMO.
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not mine, the official one... i would have said herrera
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Manchester United @ManUtd 1m
Louis van Gaal confirms Jonny Evans, Luke Shaw and Antonio Valencia all missed tonight's game through injury.Open Controls
@ManUtd 7m
BREAKING: We can announce @WayneRooney is #mufc's new captain. Darren Fletcher vice-captain. http://bit.ly/1BcokBsOpen ControlsFletcher vc 😯
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nice vice captain
Open ControlsBig spuds. This is good news
Open Controlsmakes sense to me
Open ControlsWhoever starts of without Rooney is just plain bonkers
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Really, didn't think he'd actually give it to roon. How long is Rvp out for?
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The right choice. Will be England captain soon too
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Ultimate Fantasy Premier League Keeper Options
Ideally you want one keeper who plays Saturday, one who plays Sunday, and if there is a Monday game, one for that night too, however planning for Monday games is near impossible, and giving yourself a good selection over the weekend seems the best way to maximize the chance of getting the clean sheet.
A look at some 3 keeper options
Man Utd, Newcastle, Sunderland (DDG, Krul, Mannone) (14.5)
Gives you 2 options a weekend, except weeks 3, 12 and 13, but gives an easy home fixture in all 3 cases. The second option in a gameweek is usually David De Gea, useful for UFPL as you want your punts to play and have strong backups to come in on Sunday (More on this on the Mid and Fwd articles)
DDG – Fantastic shot stopper who is the cheapest nailed on option in the United defense, strong opening fixtures should mean he cleans up the clean sheets points.
Krul – Solid option at a decent Newcastle team, any fears over clean sheet potential should be alleviated by his save points, you wont need to play him much anyway
Mannone – A hero from the season gone by, no BPS in the UFPL game means he wont be in for many 11 point hauls but should garner plenty of save points in a surprisingly resilient Sunderland side.
Man Utd, Spurs, Newcastle (DDG, LLoris, Krul) (15.5)
Gives you at least 2 options EVERY weekend up until week 15. Sightly more expensive but the option i would recommend.
LLoris – one of the league best keepers, in what many are expecting to be a strong spurs defense under Poch
Man Utd, Spurs, Mignolet (DDG, LLoris, Mignolet) (16.5)
Gives you 2 options a week except weeks 11 and 5. Even more expensive but Gives you 3 keepers from top 6 Team teams, all of which are nailed on every single match.
Mignolet – Pool should be more solid this year with Lovren and other defensive additions, although not sure Mignolet is worth the 5.5 tag.
I reckon option 2 is the best choice for the coming season, you can see a bit more detail here http://ultimatefpl.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/ultimate-fpl-goalkeepers/
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Alberto Moreno officially at Liverpool !
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/168778-reds-agree-moreno-deal-in-principleOpen Controls
I've read the same news about 8 or 9 times in the last 8 weeks.
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How many full backs? Spending money well 🙂
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Please post RMTs in the RMT thread
http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/11/rate-4/
Also helping others will probably get replies in return.Open Controls
Are you going to bother posting this Friday and Saturday I can honestly see it being pointless.
Open ControlsI think you'll get more help there than here if that helps.
Here will just be a cycle of RMT reposts.Open ControlsI've helped over there a few times but the amount of casuals that go on it and just leave after they've got their team rated. Like everytime it seems to be the same people rating.
Open ControlsI know what you mean.
RMTs here won't get answered meaning RMT reposts etc.
Only a few more days to go.
I could always just remove RMTs here 😉Open ControlsI don't mind them as this is a community website where we try to help people but perhaps anyone who spams teams give a 10 minute timeout or something.
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Is that even possible??
Open ControlsThere must be some sort of programme to allow it.
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Yeah the RMT's should slow down until Jan WC
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- Is Rooney, Costa and Sturridge Too Much?
So has anyone else given in to go the Sturridge Costa Rooney team wagon - Join the club.
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Was thinking about it, but didn't want to spoil my lovely midfield 🙂
Open ControlsSomething has to give, you can't have them all
Open ControlsCan have more of them without that expensive frontline though i reckon 🙂
Open ControlsYup, which two have you opted for?
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Some were on it before you thought of the idea. Stop claiming it as your own.
Open ControlsNot claiming it as my 'idea'
Open ControlsEvery time you post it's about these front 3....
Open ControlsNever said it is my idea- just generally advising people that this is the best way to go
Open ControlsAnd how do you know that? The season hasn't even started...
Open ControlsI don't 'know' it, I just think it is the best way to go
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To be fair you can't advise that something is better when realistically you have no idea what is going to happen
Open ControlsThat is the point, no one knows what is going to happen, but when you advise people on RMT's etc you do that according to what you 'think' is right
Open ControlsDon't want to get in to it, but when you say 'advising people that this is the best way to go', it is you telling them without a shadow of a doubt that this will work out best for them. Not what you think could be the most beneficial.
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It isn't. The idea is the try and get the most points from 100m not just the most points. You don't get value from them by owning them all at once because the value from these players comes from captaining them regularly.
Open ControlsEveryone has his own ideas man, I just think that the forwards are the players who are most likely to get you the most points. So when there is uncertainty regarding the Dzekos,Jovetics and Girouds of this world, I would just pick the best forwards. Despite that, you can afford a decent team
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Well touchy folks on here at this time. What's wrong?! 🙂
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Well, dropped Costa for Sturridge yesterday.
And then he scored 2 and is getting hard to ignore form-wise. So back to the drawing board. haha.Open ControlsHahaha 🙂
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Im in with all three. I don't want to be sat here at midday [sat] worried the one I left out scores a hatty. If one gets injured GW1 then I can bring in who I want [ except RVP]
Open ControlsBrilliant, sit back and enjoy the gold 🙂
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2/3 is most I would go because I don't like the balance if I get all 3. Not only that I don't want Sturridge just now because of fixtures and there is a questionmark over whether or not they can replicate last seasons form.
Open ControlsLiverpool will score goals, their attacking returns are fixture proof.. No doubt about that.. Rodgers loves to attack
I don't see how this team is unbalanced
Krul
Jones/Terry/Chester
Mata/Ramsey/Snodgrass/Sigurdsson
Rooney/Costa/Sturridge
Elliot/Marney/Hutton/Moore
Ticks all the boxes
-Nailed on United defender
-Nailed on Chelsea defender
-Best forward line in the game to begin with at least
-Mata
-Ramsey
-I've explained the midfield below (I know the fourth midfielder is a problem, but more options will appear when the season starts. For now, I'm playing the fixtures and beginning with Snodgrass)Open ControlsYour bench is fodder and you have Chester as a starter, not to mention you are missing at least 1 premium midfielder, well that is how I see it but you obviously view it differently.
Are Sturridge + Snodgrass + Chester going to outscore Giroud + Eriksen + Jones for example.Open ControlsBench is meant to be fodder, it's just that you need nailed on players who can fill in during your time of need
As I said I expect that third forward (Studge) to outscore that 3rd premium midfielder (Fabregas Sterling Eriksen etc) comfortably
You missed the fact that I have Jones in there as well.
I've picked Chester and Snodgrass to give me a solid foundation to begin with as Hull play Stoke,Villa,QPR and West Ham in the first 4. Till the next Ramsey or Michu reveals himself, I'm going to play the fixturesOpen ControlsThanks 🙂
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im considering Hazard + Erikson over Mata + Ramsey with that front line.
Thoughts?Open ControlsBoth are good options, but Hazard looks rusty at the moment. Mata and Ramsey should come out firing out of the blocks 🙂
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Just don't think that 3rd premium mid (Sterling,Eriksen,Fabregas etc) is worth it over my 3rd striker (Sturridge) - More points in attack (plus more captaincy options)
The midfield picks itself too
Mata and Ramsey pick themselves - top picks
Siggy - Bargain at that price with set pieces
The fourth one is the tricky one (You can choose anyone below 6.5) - Hendo and Snodgrass are the obvious picks but I've personally gone with Snod due to his fixtures. I'm sure we'll have another option after the few gameweeks who i can jump on and replace Snod (Michu,Ramsey in the previous years)Open Controls
Its not only about Sturridge vs 1 premium mid, its Sturridge + 6m mid vs premium mid + 8.5 att... Are you sure Sturridge + Snodgrass will outscore Sterling/Fabregas/Eriksen + Dzeko/Bony/Adebayor/Giroud...
Open ControlsYes,100%... Bear in mind Sturridge gives you another captaincy option as well
Are you sure about these strikers yourself? I'm not convinced
-We don't know who the main man at City is (Question mark around Aguero as well, going the 3 striker route would allow an easier upgrade to Aguero)
-Bony might leave before the end of the window leading to you reshuffle your team early on
-Adebayor may be rotated with Soldado due to Europa
-Giroud isn't 100% fit
Snodgrass is just a short term punt due to fixtures (Stoke,WHAM,Villa,QPR), I'll replace him as soon as the next Michu/Ramsey reveals himself 😉Open Controls
I currently have all three...and Yaya 😀
Choice has come down to Dzeko & Sterling over Sturridge & a mid up to 6.5. I prefer the latter.Open ControlsI'm rocking the Sturoosta front line. High 5!
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I reckon it can be done. You can still keep a Chelsea defender, two £9m mids and then two bargains and a cheapie.
For me it rather depends on Young - without him the 4th midfielder looks a very weak spot.Open ControlsYup - see the team I posted above
As I said, I'm sure we'll have another option after the few gameweeks who i can jump on and replace Snod (Michu,Ramsey in the previous years)... Even if you don't go the Young routeOpen ControlsYup I've gone Fabregas over Mata but otherwise very similar - I like the look of Snod and Hull's early fixtures are great but they don't score much and there's also the inevitable dip with Europa. The upgrade obviously requires 2 transfers but you can probably take your pick of which 3 forwards to downgrade by that point.
Open ControlsExactly, Henderson and Puncheon are the other alternatives to Snod
Open ControlsI think I'm going Young and Siggi subject to the press conference. Young seems worth the gamble as he could be absolutely explosive.
What do you think on Henderson? Polarises opinion but I'm quite tempted, he's got the potential to score more this year but maybe a watch and see.Open ControlsHenderson is definitely a good shout with this strategy. Tbh in week two onwards Steven Davis could become playable every week at 5.0, so there's no shortage of options.
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I think it is best to wait and see with Henderson. Sure if he gets off to a flyer like Ramsey, well and good and you can jump on the wagon straight away
If he doesn't, he is a big candidate for a price rise as Liverpool play City and Spurs after the Soton game. His role still requires some clarification. Hence, I've opted for the safer Snodgrass routeOpen Controls
Think Costa to Hazard is better tbh :/ I see Rooney and Studge as essential this season(both will score over 20 im sure).
Costa is going to score, but maybe like 15-17 ?
Might as well roll the dice 😛Open ControlsNot sure who will score more through out the course of the season, but Costa is definitely the man in form right now, while Hazard after the World Cup (and even during it) looks rusty and disinterested
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I personally believe you'll get a better return on your money by picking three 9.0 midfielders - and there's a conundrum in itself, trying to pick the best three.
However, I have picked Costa due to what appears to be a sole striker status. Means he'll get goals and of course, gametime. The other two have competing strikers.
I also believe Costa is undervalued by FPL because of this lone striker status and could be the bargain of the season, even at 10.5Open ControlsIts not about the money at the end of the day, it is about the points 🙂
Exactly, he's underpriced and in that team with Fabregas and Hazard being the providers, he'll fill his boots week in week outOpen Controls
RMT / 10 please, 0m ITB
Krul (Elliot)
Jones Cahill Wisdom (Moore Duff)
Young Hazard Ramsey Sigurdsson (Marney)
Rooney Costa SturridgeOpen ControlsGreat team 🙂
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We have three new community articles just published covering 9m midfielders, the tricky road from La Liga to the Premier League and a look at the best differentials.
All can be found here http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/category/community-submissions/Open Controlsyes
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Why has Pellegrini paid £32m for a player who can't even get in a mediocre France team? I much prefer Nastasic, to be honest. Sometimes I think Pellegrini is in his own little world.
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Koscielny doesn't start for France. Doesn't mean anything.
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Yes.
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thanks for the analysis.
CR7 hat-trick tonight btwOpen Controls
More proof if it were needed City are starting slowly ...
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What is the best option for 4.5 from either CPL, SOT or STOke?
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Yoshida
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Graeme Souness with the worst beard of all time.
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whats the best way to organise a cash ML with friends? how do you lot go about it?
Open ControlsDepends how mature they are. If they're good mates you trust, just make sure you agree in advance exactly what the entry is and how the money will be won (just overall winner? Manager of the month awards too? Anything for second place?)
If it's mates and acquaintances, I'd insist on getting the cash first. Maybe set a deadline of the GW2 deadline. I can recommend this app for collecting the money:
http://www.payfriendz.com/
Your mates can register on their spartphone with just their name, phone number, and date of birth. They can then top up the amount (for free), send it to you (for free) and you can either keep the money on your account or withdraw the money to your bank account (for free).Open Controlsgreat idea to use an app. cheers. will look into that
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Probably wrong time for this but:
If United's attacking forays come from the wing backs, does it mean that Mata in the hole becomes less effective?
Thinking it might favour the 2 strikers, lots of crossesOpen ControlsWe all know at some point we will have to put in at least one of Aguero, Sturridge or Toure could really mess up teams that dont have one
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Will be Aguero for me when he's back. Sturridge slightly too pricey to justify at this stage. Think I'll go with Coutinho instead.
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Evening all. What would you do differently with this?
De Gea | Myhil
Kos | Debuchy | Duff | Vlaar | Wisdom
Sanchez | Siggy | Hazard | Mata | El Ahmadi
Roony | Costa | Bojan
I don't like having a keeper who won't play and I'm not sure if Duff and Wisdom will be in the first XI.
Don't mind wildcarding in GW3. £0 in bank. Defence and cheapie mids/attacker rotate quite well.Open ControlsDon't like the double arsenal defence
Open ControlsPlease post on the RMT threat,
http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/11/rate-4/Open Controls
From previous thread...
Is going Ramseyless a bad idea? Rationale, Crystal Palace at home will be tricky given the way Pulis sets his sides up. They will sit, they will frustrate and restrict Arsenal to few chances. I can see only a 1-0 win in this game for Arsenal.
After that they have Everton away, a fixture they lost 3-0 in last season and an incredibly tough place to go.
Watch and wait?Open ControlsI agree to some extent but he just played man city and got a goal/assist
Open ControlsNot the same. That was essentially a friendly against a make shift back line. I'm not denying the fact that he's a quality player but I can see Crystal Palace making things difficult but ultimately losing by the odd goal. Everton will be the same.
Sometimes the fixtures aren't quite as they seem. I'm persuading myself to look elsewhere for now.Open Controls
This really is a classic player/form over fixtures.
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Ars 1 - 0 Cry.
Ramsey goal. 10 points.Open Controls
You just know he'll do well though. Fixtures are irrelevant for attackers in the top teams. After Hazard, he's the best midfielder to own imo.
Open ControlsHe will do well and is one of the best to own. But during the first two games I think he'll struggle to have an impact given the style of the teams they are up against.
Hazard and Mata for me.Open Controls
Wouldn't be that certain of a tight game, Pulis or not... No reason Arsenal couldn't put 3+ past them at all.
Open ControlsIf they get an early goal they could. It's a possibility of course. I just know from experience of watching Pulis sides for years that he sets up his players to sit and defend in these games. They restrict the space and reaply do make things difficult. I think we lost 3-1 at the Emirates once, the rest of the time it was by the odd goal.
What was the score last season?Open Controls
I'm going without him. Would be tough vs palace and Everton.
Hoping for a price drop so that I can pick him up before Leicester.Open ControlsGlad I'm not the only one.
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Was going at the same ppg as Suarez last season just about:/
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What's the earliest we're likely to see Aguero back starting?
I'm split between Dzeko and Jovetic... Prefer Jovetic but know Dzeko's the most likely to keep his place once Aguero's back..Open ControlsI just wouldn't go there with either dzeko or jovetic
aguero will be back for gw2 v liverpool.Open ControlsReally? Pellegrini said he wouldn't rush him back
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I don't know if it's clear that Dzeko will keep his place. We don't have much to go on from last year. Jovetic is back and firing, it's like they have a new player.
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Would you rather..
A) Eriksen + 2x 4.5m defenders
B) Ramsey + 2x 4m defenders
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B
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Jovetic numbers are quite enticing, he might be worth a punt... does anyone know how long it will take Aguero to be match fit?
Open Controlsi'd take a guess and say he will be back gw2 v liverpool
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Possibility of getting trolled by LvG is worth having young at 5.5
Open Controlswhen do the games today kick off then ?
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