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21 December 2014 2871 comments
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Gameweek 17 rolls on via a stormy Tyne-Wear derby clash and the meeting of two top four hopefuls at Anfield.

Events begin at St James Park where Newcastle will attempt to halt rather catastrophic blip in their revival: they’ve lost their last two outings, shipping eight goals in the process. Local rivals Sunderland are unlikely to provide sympathetic opponents; the Black Cats have lost just once in their last seven league matches.

Alan Pardew’s men welcome back Sammy Ameobi and Cheick Tiote following recent knocks, while both Daryl Janmaat and Steven Taylor also return to bolster the back four, although with 17-year-old Jak Alnwick continuing in goal, the fragility in defence could well remain.

Gus Poyet’s men will look to exploit such a weakness as the Uruguayan makes just one change to his Sunderland starting XI, recalling striker Steven Fletcher with the much-maligned Jozy Altidore dropping to the bench. The visitors have been forced into a late change, however, with Anthony Réveillère sustaining an injury in the warm-up; Liverpool loanee Sebastián Coates is drafted into the back four.

The day’s action continues shortly after the whistle in the north east, as we drop in at Anfield to check on the progress of both Liverpool and Arsenal. Alexis Sanchez and a cast of mid-price differentials are on show, as the likes of Raheem Sterling and Olivier Giroud audition in a bid to boost their pre-Christmas Fantasy stock.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    I reckon you can go with 3 of Austin, Ings, Kane, Ayoze, Cisse and load up on the big defenders. I'm heading that way now.

    1. Skipdipper
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Until Aguero back?

      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        yup, probably start of Feb

        1. Skipdipper
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 12 months ago

          So wildcard it jus before then?

          1. Granville
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            • 16 Years
            10 years, 12 months ago

            GW23 looks a good time to WC with United home to Leicester, Arsenal home to Villa, Soton home to Swansea

            1. MJ6987
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 12 months ago

              Is that the last time you can?

              1. Woy of the Wovers
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 12 months ago

                GW24

      2. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        When is he due back? Can't be long now

    2. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I'm learning that I'm wasting money on Costa and Fabregas.

      1. RÏÉ BY
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        fab is value for money

      2. Woy of the Wovers
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Has Fabregas form dipped?

        1. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 12 months ago

          I could have Austin and Downing in there places doing more for much less.

          1. Woy of the Wovers
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 12 months ago

            Not Austin. He's a forward. Ftr, I've got Fabregas, Downing and Austin. Fabs is currently keeping out ADM, Silva, Sterling or Eriksen.

            1. Heydudes13
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 12 months ago

              I've gone 352 though.

    3. RÏÉ BY
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      not for CS shirley? for their attacking prospects?

    4. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I've got Austin and Kane, ready to do Boyd->Silva 😀

    5. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I went for a few weeks with Austin and Ings and they served me well.

    6. Ostrich Baby
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I'm looking forward to January and lining up with:

      Hart
      Baines Azpi Debucy
      Sanchez Di Maria Yaya Downing
      Austin Kane Aguero

      That's a reet team there.

      1. AH 🙂
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        No Hazard LOL

        1. Ostrich Baby
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 12 months ago

          not sure it's that funny.

  2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Dundee Utd 2-1 Celtic 😎

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Grrrrrrrrrr

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Is that league not finished yet?

  3. Skipdipper
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    If Newcastle and dummett clean sheet it for me I'll be amazed. Sunderland having chance after chance

    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      No chance of that!

    2. Skipdipper
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      More chance of tiote red card 🙂

  4. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Wickham yc

    1. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Captain Bembov.

      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Bad News Bembov

  5. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    B@st*rds Celtic

    Football bet beat

    Useless tossers playing in the easiest league in Europe and they still can't win

  6. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    If u had 1ft and 6.2m itb and u wanted to ship either Perez r carroll out for nxt GW who would u chose? Hav bony.

    1. BabyB
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      id ship Perez.

      Carroll has tough fixtures but id be more confident on WHU scoring than Newcastle just now.

  7. Az
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    • 16 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Anyone considering getting Falcao in?

    1. Jeremiah
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Too early yet imo.

    2. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      As much as I consider an STD a desirable characteristic in a future sexual partner.

    3. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Intense fixture list. Little game time and still recovering from injury.
      Get serious.

    4. Solenya
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Yup. Could be in for Costa for me, if Costa keeps disillusioning me.

    5. HP.
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Already have him.

  8. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Have they all been sent off yet? 😉

    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Dunno...I'm watching the Titanic...

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Red card for the bloody band!!! 😉

        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 12 months ago

          Not got that far yet...Still on the bloke with his foot stuck in the door...

          1. Skipdipper
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 12 months ago

            That film should have just got to the crash and been an hour long!

      2. RÏÉ BY
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        straight red

      3. The Nuttmxn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Good defensive performance, was getting ready to add my CS points to my GW round then it all went wrong.

    2. Costa in Wengerland
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Lol

    3. BabyB
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      5 yellows so far. be surprised if someone isn't sent off..

      p.s. Carroll worked out ok for me 🙂

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Brilliant - I am pleased for you. 🙂

    4. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I see, now that your playing good football again you the comments are about 😛

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        😆

      2. The Nuttmxn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        I see, now that your playing good football again the comments come out 😛

        *Fix.

  9. Costa in Wengerland
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    How was Rooney playing yesterday ? Good for FPL ?

    1. Just A Wooden Spoon
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Err no.

    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Rubbish,,..

  10. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Everyboby gets a yellow, and conveniently miss the next game too

    1. money face bandwagon
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      hopes NEW gets more suspension...needs to help utd out for next game

  11. Just A Wooden Spoon
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    I'm sure there are a few Newcastle defender owners on here today, you know the drill.....cleansheet until injury time when Sunderland will wreck it. Dummett owner here.

    1. Skipdipper
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Same

  12. BruLee
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Rooney --> Benteke
    Siggy --> Yaya Toure

    for -4. Crazy?

    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Not really

    2. Skipdipper
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I've done Rooney and wanyama to Kane and silva for free
      Probably regret Rooney one versus Newcastle but nobody in ML has him
      Now I'm just worrying over captain choice as I think Sanchez will be rested v QPR but can't not captain him!

      1. RÏÉ BY
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        that's why you have a VC 😉
        why do you think sanchez will be rested?

    3. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      United home to Newcastle, Swansea home to Villa. If Siggy is OK, it's seems like madness

    4. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      The fact you've used the the word crazy yourself means you shouldn't do it.

      1. BruLee
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Thanks guys

  13. Tshelby
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Baines -> clichy
    Siggy -> Sterling

    Will this do any good?

    1. Skipdipper
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      If siggy fit he's home against villa
      And Baines home against stoke
      Clichy not guaranteed starter
      I wouldn't

    2. OzilFozzil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Thats a nay for me... Clichy is not guaranteed to start with Kolarov back and Im sorry Liverpool are poor atm...

  14. drughi
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Larsson always complains about everything, mouthing off with referee over every call

  15. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    0-0 at HT

    45 minutes away from 2 clean sheets

    1. Skipdipper
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Sssssh don't jinx it

    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Goals are far more common in the 2nd half.

      1. RÏÉ BY
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        especially once it's 8 against 9 😉

    3. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      You might get one.

  16. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    The Magpies aren't working hard enough. 😕

    1. ejaknian
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      go go dummet

    2. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Second half I expect the effort to be raised. If you don't score in the first half an hour for as long as the toon have it can have change the way you play imo.

    3. beric
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Work harder dummett!

    4. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Is it time to lose Sakho?

  17. Obi Wan Elokobi
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Not many Alnwick owners :p I only put him in for cheap cover so a clean sheet is a massive bonus.

    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Why?!!!!

  18. Ady87
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Azpi > Zaba? (Zaba had his rest now, think he will play both games over Xmas)

    1. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Yep you don't want to mess with a winning team too much.

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I expect he'll miss one.

    3. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      No.

    4. OzilFozzil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Do it... Azpi not likely to start all games... And Zab on song...

  19. RÏÉ BY
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    i think my guess of 9 YC might have been a tad conservative 🙂

    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      It's what I went for below, but threw in a red for good measure.

      1. RÏÉ BY
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        i had 2 reds 😉

  20. Elijah's Wood
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Does anyone know who Bartley was replaced with for Swansea yesterday? Im guessing his temp gig is up

    1. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Fernandez

      1. Elijah's Wood
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Thanks for the reply, very disapointing for me

    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Fernandez. It was always going to happen eventually tbh. Argentine international vs Bartley

      1. Elijah's Wood
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Was hoping Bartley would be a temp until January at least, god dammit Fernandez!

  21. In Like Flynn.
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    • 15 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Newcastle 3 Sunderland 2 at half time. Surely Cattermole can be relied on to even the scores in the second half?
    Sweepstake for the total number of cards by full time.

    I'll start with Newcastle 4 Sunderland 5 and one Red (Not sure how many a red counts as if there is a tie breaker).

    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Newcastle 4 yellows, 1 red and 1 goal

      Sunderland 4 yellows and 2 goals

      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Brave call MJ, I hadn't thought to include goals. 😉

  22. Concrete
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Giroud or Beteke until the new year?

    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Benteke has nice fixtures, on pens, and Villa can't really afford to rotate him

    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Benteke

    3. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Benteke is one of the safest picks in the game at this time of year...and good fixtures. So him...

    4. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Benteke, he is key for Villa.

    5. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Cheers

    6. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Cheers , Benteke it is then 😀

    7. beric
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Tekkers probably

    8. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Giroud

  23. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    How is Saylor looking anyone? Getting on any FKs etc?

    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Newc defence has looked rubbish imo (and I own Dummet)

    2. Shota Coco
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I haven't noticed it.

  24. coldblue
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    A. Rooney / Costa out? Undecided on who to replace them yet.

    B, Jedinak out for Silva?

    C. Cissokho out for Debuchy?

    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Keep Rooney and Costa
      Yes
      Villa are quite tight with home fixtures so us keep

    2. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Jedinak âž¡ Sterling.

  25. Just A Hat
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    hmm, I'm surprised Mark didn't opt for Austin

  26. Geordienufc1
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Fun fact: 83% of newcastle's goals this season have come in the 2nd half.

    1. Shota Coco
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Damn!

    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Less of the fun

    3. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      While interesting, I certainly wouldn't put this fact in the bracket of fun.

    4. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Not one in the first half hour is crazy

  27. The Queen of England
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Just want to say never ever do a 5 man defence. I've dropped 600,000 places in December through changing from a 3-4-3 to 5-2-3 and it blew up spectacularly in my face. Experimental times over and back to 3-4-3, though for now I have to settle for 4-3-3 until I can change next week.

    Keeping my FT for next week and bringing in Sterling and Austin for Costa and Wanyama. Thoughts?

    I have Baines and Bertrand too, and would like to get rid. Will give Baines one last chance at home next GW, and if he draws another blank, will swap for Zabaleta and take a 4 point hit. Bertrand will probably be benched for the three games they have after next GW against Chelsea, Arsenal and Utd. I'll revert to 3-4-3 then

    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Thats quite a drop

      1. The Queen of England
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Had a great team too, well on paper at least. Was convinced it would be a game-changer! Had terrible luck with injuries and suspensions but nevertheless, never again!

        It was-

        Fabianski (Krul)
        Bertrand, Azpi, Baines, Chambers, Ivanovic,
        Sigurdsson, Sanchez, (Fellaini, Boyd, Wanyama)
        Aguero, Sakho, Rooney

        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 12 months ago

          We are polar opposites, i never invest heavily in defenders

  28. Concrete
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    I noticed Silva went straight down the tunnel yesterday when subbed. Hopefully it's absolutely nothing

    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Mightve needed the loo

      1. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        😀

  29. Pap Boomez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    What are people doing with Baines then? Sell or hold?

    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Holld for this game at least

    2. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Moving to Cahill or Ivanovic this week for a -4 or for games on 28th

    3. BabyB
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      hold for now. Bigger problems elsewhere.

    4. The Queen of England
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      What Beric said

    5. Boyd to Sven
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      I'm looking to sell this week. Possibly for Zabaletta.

  30. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 12 months ago

    Score check ;

    29 (-4) here 😎 and chickened out of buying Kolarov after talking him up for 3 days solid.

    Ps, only reply if you scored less than me.

    .... No replies

    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Finally a score check that me look good

      39 😎

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        That's a rubbish score Opti. No need for the 😎 in my opinion.

        😀

    2. Timtastic03
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      24 ðŸ˜

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Ouch sorry Tim

    3. beric
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      Bad luck roy

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Ah well

    4. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      84 with Sanchez, Costa and Hazard.

      Oops, missed the bit about only replying if worse 😛

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        I saw that. Looked at you GW earlier when I was checking leagues.

        Bloody well done WR 🙂

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 12 months ago

          Cheers, still only 18th in the Old Farts League! Some great scores in there

      2. beric
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Wow, congrats WR!

    5. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      16 (-4). Yup.

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        Oh no. Sorry Fedolefan

        1. fedolefan
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 12 months ago

          Yeah, thought I was on to something with a double united attack and RVP (c). Happens though.

    6. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 12 months ago

      About the same in reality...43 (-4) with more played than you and (c) gone...

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 12 months ago

        I can't believe I never bought Downing.