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The ICC World T20 moves into its third phase from Tuesday (21st March). This takes a look at the fixtures and offers those playing the game a new article for cricket discussions.

Fixtures

22nd March, Tuesday  –  New Zealand Vs Pakistan, Mohali

23rd March, Wednesday –  England Vs Afghanistan, Delhi & India Vs Bangladesh, Bengaluru

25th March, Friday – Pakistan Vs Australia, Mohali & South Africa Vs West Indies, Nagpur

26th March, Saturday – Bangladesh Vs New Zealand, Kolkatta &  Sri Lanka Vs England, Delhi

27th March, Sunday – Afghanistan Vs West Indies, Nagpur & India Vs Australia, Mohali

28th March, Monday- South Africa Vs Sri Lanka, Delhi

Discussion Points

  • From this we can see that New Zealand, Pakistan, Bangladesh play early on and their fixtures end early. So it would be good to load their players and save on some transfers.
  • Feroz shah kotla (New Delhi), Eden Gardens  (Kolkata), Chinna swamy (Bangalore) are slow pitches. But Mohali,Chandigarh is a little bit fast, skiddy, bouncy and grassy.

Moin Poster Since 2013.

  1. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Captains?

    Williamson for me

    1. SpaceCadet
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Amir will rip through the top order. Elliott for me 🙂

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Amir has been a bit over-hyped imo

        1. ronty
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          nope.. 5 yrs out of the game and yet the most potent threat in the tournament spekas volumes of his class

          It is sad that India never had anybody of his ability,let alone, Akram's

          1. Eden Hazardous
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 19 days ago

            I mean he is good but I wont captain him on a belter of a pitch

    2. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Currently on Amir... could be Anderson (again) come game time

    3. oghash
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      I picked the one with the biggest smile

    4. Hazard267
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Anderson as normal

  2. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Your teams? I'm currently on:

    Shahzad, Sharjeel, Imad, Amir (C)
    Guptill, Anderson, Santner
    Root, Hales, Buttler, Rashid

    70K ITB

  3. ianp1970
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Going with an initial selection of:

    x3 NZ
    x3 Pak
    x3 Eng
    x2 Ban

    Think I can get 48 player out of the 10 matches with judicious transfers,

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Who are your 3 Bangladeshis?

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        *Pakistanis

  4. ianp1970
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Shehzad, Amir and Afridi
    Shakib and Mahmadulluh from Ban

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Ah...I don't trust Afridi...still looking for one more Pakistani to go with Amir and Shehzad

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        thought about Sami/Imad but want a batsmen...Hafeez would have been perfect

      2. ianp1970
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Difficult one: Shoaib Malik maybe, but he hasn't done too much...

        1. 1569Tippins
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          I'm considering Malik... does he bowl much? I noticed he was 4th in the batting order against Bangladesh and was also listed as a 'spin' option

          1. pompeyfan
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 19 days ago

            2 overs in each of the first 2 games. Could probably expect something similar if not less in the next game

            1. 1569Tippins
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 19 days ago

              He'll do for me. Cheers

  5. ianp1970
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Keeping Buttler all the way 'til England finish is hampering me somewhat, but rules say you need a keeper and none of the others I fancy start before Friday afternoon!

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      M.Shahzad

      England's bowling CAREER Economy rate is above 8.5!

      1. ianp1970
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Could be an option?

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          I am going with 4 batsmen from tomorrow's morning match...Kotla predicted to be a belter

          So yes...Shahzad is a good option

          1. MemphisDepay7
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 19 days ago

            Never trust the Kotla pitch, always a low scorer

            1. Eden Hazardous
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 19 days ago

              Nah..depends on the curator's choice and anyway both bowling line ups are kak

              1. MemphisDepay7
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 19 days ago

                Delhi resident, I know the only thing about Kotla that can be predicted is its unpredictability.. also England bowled Afg out for 80 in the 50over World Cup

                1. Eden Hazardous
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 19 days ago

                  I lived in Delhi 2 years back...seen some belters , some turners very unoprecitable

                  1. oghash
                    • 10 Years
                    10 years, 19 days ago

                    If, or when I finally make it to India you'll have to go to a game with me.

                    1. Eden Hazardous
                      • 11 Years
                      10 years, 19 days ago

                      Maybe ! 🙂

    2. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      I might just go for Akmal. Bats at 4, can be destructive if inconsistent, will get 2 games out of him before switching for QdK

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        You are tempting me...

        1. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          I knew I should've not posted anything! 😉

          Hafeez (if fit) or Latif I think would play 3, although it could be shaken up I guess.

          1. Eden Hazardous
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 19 days ago

            Afridi or Akmal?

            Choose one for me , pretty please 😀

            1. Eden Hazardous
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 19 days ago

              Akmal for me..he has a great record against Australia

              1. Eden Hazardous
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 19 days ago

                Thanks a lot! 😛

            2. pompeyfan
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 19 days ago

              I'm getting both 🙂

              1. Eden Hazardous
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 19 days ago

                No Shehzad?

                1. pompeyfan
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 19 days ago

                  no

      2. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Who bats no.3 btw?

        1. 1569Tippins
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          I've got a screen shot of the lineup for the Bangladesh game and Hafeez was listed at 3 originally

        2. 1569Tippins
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Shehzad - Sharjeel - Hafeez - Malik - Ukmal - Sarfaraz - Afridi - Imad - Wahab - Amir - Irfan

          1. Eden Hazardous
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 19 days ago

            Thanks!

            1. 1569Tippins
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 19 days ago

              No probs.

              Malik interests me as he is batting Top 4 and is listed as a spin bowling option.

              Amir, Irfan and Wahab (think he's doubtful today) are seamers, with Malik, Afridi and Imad listed as BAT/SPIN.

              1. pompeyfan
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 19 days ago

                he batted at 5 and 6 in the previous matches

                1. 1569Tippins
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 19 days ago

                  Bummer... they must change around a lot then, depending on tactics/game situation I guess.

                  If he's listed Top 4 in the batting order today, I'm still going to take a chance on him.

                2. 1569Tippins
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 19 days ago

                  Where has Afridi been coming in? (if you don't mind looking)

                  1. pompeyfan
                    • 16 Years
                    10 years, 19 days ago

                    meant to come in at 7, but came in at 3 and 4.

                    It is all very fluid. The likes of Malik, Umar, Sarfraz, Hafeez, Afridi can all come in in the top 4 dependent on the situation

                    1. 1569Tippins
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      10 years, 19 days ago

                      Yeah that's what I expected to be the case when you said Malik batted at 5 and 6.

                      I'm set on Afridi anyway, cos he's one of the main bowlers and his nickname tells everyone what he can do with the bat!

                      Definitely going with Amir and Afridi... the rest I'll wait and see. Cheers for the info

  6. juggos
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Why is everyone going with Shehzad? I fancy Pak's bowlers more than their batsmen. Am I missing something here?

    1. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      I guess because he got a 50 against Bang. He's a decent player but I don't fancy him getting many against the NZ seamers

      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        His price is really nice for maintaining team balance and getting two games out of a player.

        1. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          true. All Pakistan batsmen are a gamble really, I'm going for Akmal & Afridi but if I wasn't I'd consider him

    2. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Me no clue what this alien language you speak of is... 😉

    3. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      I'm not, and I'm in full agreement regarding batsmen vs bowlers.

      I want to incorporate some Pak batting, so I'm going Afridi and possibly Malik also, with Amir as the main bowler.

      What are your thoughts on Irfan? Never even heard him mentioned

      1. juggos
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        I prefer Malik as well just because he'd get a few overs. I'm also definitely getting Imad Wasim if he's listed in the squad. Afridi is a bit expensive to me but it may be risky to go without given his explosiveness.
        I don't know enough about Irfan so I'm staying away but I won't be surprised if he takes a couple wickets

        1. 1569Tippins
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          I base my squad selections from the initial bookmakers prices on Top Tournament Batsmen and Top Tournament Bowlers markets... I won't select anyone not listed in my main shortlist from those.

          Afridi and Irfan were both 20/1 shots to be Top Bowlers (Amir 14/1) so it's a surprise Irfan never gets a mention... is it only because he's not done much as of yet?

          Malik (33/1) was the 2nd fav to score the most runs for Pakistan behind Hafeez (25/1), so with Hafeez likely out, it could be Malik who steps up in the next game or two.

          I'm tempted to go with Afridi, Amir, Malik and Irfan - in the hope they bowl NZ out - but it also seems like a little overkill (despite them having 2 fixtures pretty close)

          1. 1569Tippins
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 19 days ago

            Imad Wasim didn't make the shortlist, so mustn't have been considered a possible Top Tournament Bowler with the bookmakers.

            I've got listed: Amir (14/1), Afridi and Irfan (20/1), Riaz (25/1), Sami (40/1) and Ali (66/1)

            It's not foolproof of course... Shehzad wasn't listed as a Top Tournament Batsmen candidate for Pakistan but got a 50 - so don't let me sway you from Imad, it just means I won't be getting him.

            1. ronty
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 19 days ago

              Imad not listed as he didn't play in the Asia Cup and came in as an unknown entity

          2. juggos
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 19 days ago

            Good criteria for selection. Thanks for the odds as well. I'm currently on Afridi, Amir, Malik and I. Wasim (provided he plays). I think it is very all rounded and besides Afridi, I think it isn't too much strain on the budget. I may drop down to 3 Pak players if Wasim isn't playing

            1. 1569Tippins
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 19 days ago

              I think he will play cos Riaz is struggling apparently

      2. ronty
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Irfan never will get to bat unless Pak are 9 down and he is awful as a fielder..basically not T20 material

        1. 1569Tippins
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          He can take wickets though... might just go Amir, Afridi and Malik then... should be plenty enough bowling without Irfan.

          1. ronty
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 19 days ago

            yup..same for me

            more than 3 Pakistan is overkill for me esp against an in-form Kiwi team

            1. 1569Tippins
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 19 days ago

              How many NZ players you got?

              1. ronty
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 19 days ago

                look lower down..listed my team

  7. Fifa las vegas
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Wow, I really have clicked into the wrong article 😳

    1. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Stick around, we will convert you!

  8. ronty
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Was busy most of the day at work but come around to make a squad for this phase:

    Santner,Guptill,Corey
    Amir,Malik,Afridi
    Roy,Root,Moeen
    Shahzad
    Kohli

    fine enough or any changes?

    1. juggos
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Looks almost identical to mine. Still not sold on Moeen & Shahzad vs Buttler & R. Khan though. I also think I'm going with an extra Pak player over Kohli though and will use a transfer to bring him in before his game

      1. ronty
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        I really would have preferred a day between phases.. Rashid is a very good prospect but
        I feel he is a bit too raw for this level atm.. by next T20,stand-out bowler imo

    2. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Guptill vs Williamson is eating my brain 😀

      1. The EJJ
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        I went Williamson last phase, going Guptill this phase, spreading the love 🙂

    3. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Looks good but replace Moeen with Ashwin for india's game

  9. Chucky
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Reports suggest that hafeez will make way for Khalid Latif and Imad wasim will replace Wahab Riaz.Both these players miss out due to injuries.
    I am going with Shahzad,U.Akmal,Afridi,Amir(c),Irfan,Corey and Santner from this game.Good luck all 🙂

    1. ronty
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      5 Pakistan players 😀 😀

      1. Chucky
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        50 bonus points if they win 😉

      2. Hazard267
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Yeh dont really fancy pakistan but its nice to get two games out of their players

  10. Chucky
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Green Top pitch.Must bowl first..

  11. Hazard267
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Hales, Root, Roy and rashid for tomorrows game is that to much england ?

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Yes IMO

    2. TheJag
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Nope.

    3. Hazard267
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      my only fear is that if afg bat first they might not put on a good score although There not a bad batting team and england dreadful at bowling

    4. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      If England bat first it's the quartet I'd want (3 Top order and best wicket taking bowler)... but I wouldn't get all 4 at this stage, in case they bowl first, take a few early wickets and bowl Afghanistan out cheaply.

      1. 1569Tippins
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        My plan is to go with Roy (70k budget enabler and top order) and then get rid of NZ players for the other 3 IF they bat first.

        1. Hazard267
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Reckon i will go with 7 players this game have munro instead of hales then bring in hales if england bat first ?

    5. Murder on Zidane's Flo…
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      It's one too many for me.

      Root, Rashid, and Buttler as an explosive differential. Planned transfer -> Kohli so not worried about cash spend as he's the placeholder

      1. Murder on Zidane's Flo…
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        That's not to say it won't pay off of course 🙂 just seems a tad heavy to me

  12. Bobbyg1
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Guptill, Anderson, Santner
    Afridi, Ukmal, Amir
    Root, Roy, Rashid
    Kohli, Bumrah

    Looking ok guys?

    1. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      haha, that's exactly the team I picked!

      1. Bobbyg1
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Haha, great minds and that!

      2. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        #GreatMinds

  13. Assisting you all day
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    NZ win toss and bat

  14. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Williamson(c) 🙂

    1. Bobbyg1
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Going with Anderson (c)

    2. ronty
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Anderson (c) 🙂

    3. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      going Anderson (c), wish I could bring myself to captain Guptill but the 2 strings to Anderson make him difficult to ignore, as well as him now also bowling at the death on occasion.

  15. Assisting you all day
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    NZ unchanged so two spinners! no boult or southee

  16. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    It's a green top. No one tempted by Amir (C)?

    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Amir(C) is the standout option imo

    2. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      I've gone Amir (C) but I'm hedging cos I've got more NZ players than Pak... time will tell if I've got this right or not

  17. Chucky
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Looks like the pitch will assist swing bowling.Some late changes for me.
    Amir(C),Irfan,Sami,Wasim and Afridi from Pak and Corey,Williamson from NZ
    Best of Luck all 😀

    1. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      wow, 5 is a lot from Pakistan! I'm going for 3 - Akmal, Afridi & Amir + Guptil, Anderson (c) & Santer

      Good luck!

  18. Hazard267
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    What about Roy, Root, Rashid and Ali as for four england tommorow?

  19. powderjunkie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Irfan or Wasim?

    1. powderjunkie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Wow I've just seen Sami's strike rate is 12 in T2O

  20. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Made 2 changes-

    1)Corey(c) now
    2)Santner > McClenaghan

    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Yeah Got rid of Santner myself.Not a turning track imo

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Yep....also wanted a punt , so went for McClenaghan against an inept Pakistan batting order (no offence 😉 )

        1. Chucky
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Yeah our Batting sucks tbh that's why i have got no batsmen from our team 😉

  21. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Shehzad, Akmal & Amir from Pakistan; Anderson(c) & Williamson from NZ.

    GL.

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      GL to you too! 🙂

  22. Hazard267
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Cant bloody decide Roy, root, Rashid plus Shahzad, Ali or Hales?????

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Hales out of those 🙂

      1. Hazard267
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Fancy big moeen haha

  23. powderjunkie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Will Sami still be in the side for Pak's next game?

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Seems so

      1. powderjunkie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        vs Aus?

  24. 1569Tippins
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    I've gone hard on this first game with NZ winning the toss and batting first..

    Guptil, Williamson, Munro, Anderson (Top 4 batting) with Sodhi and McClenghan

    Amir(C) and Afridi for Pakistan

    I think it's called 'hedging your bets' but I really don't fancy Pakistan's top order batting - their bowling is where it's at and NZ are a powerul unit.

    Roy, Nabi and Shahzad in place for tomorrow... plan is to get Hales, Root and Rashid IF England bat first or save transfers and replace some NZ players for the India vs Bangladesh game.

    Good lucky all, go well!

    1. TheJag
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      6 NZ!

      I changed my team so much this morning I have no idea what I'm doing anymore!

      1. 1569Tippins
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 19 days ago

        It's the 25 minutes between team news and game deadline... it's click, click, click and hope for the best!

        I've only selected good options so should score well... but whether I've got the tactics/balance right, time will tell.

        Definitely need NZ to win now though!

  25. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    All national anthems are a complete let down compared to the West Indies.

    1. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Love that one... find the Sri Lankan one quite jolly also

  26. Murder on Zidane's Flo…
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Anderson (c) is the sensible captain but I've gone for the balls-out Guptill(c). C'mon my son!

  27. MemphisDepay7
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Santner 77.7% ownership if the site stats are to be believed, bit scary to leave him out

    1. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      I went Sodhi instead... I'm fearless and know best

  28. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Statistics FC convinced me to do Afridi > Sami

    Good luck all! 😀 😎

    1. powderjunkie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Way to put pressure on my shoulders! I hope he does well for the both of us then!

  29. pompeyfan
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Last minute change for me, dropping Santer for Sharjeel Khan. Seem to remember he wasn't good with spin bowling but decent against pace

  30. Hazard267
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Gone Munro Over KW just think hes to slow tbh

    1. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 19 days ago

      I kept Roy, Charles and Munro all through Phase 2... 70k for good, top order batsmen from good sides is too much of a bargain to ignore