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10 May 2016 2270 comments
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Tuesday evening treats us to just a single head-to-head as West Ham host Man United in the final league fixture to take place at the Boleyn Ground. The outcome of this evening’s match could have significant repercussions in the race for European places, with the visitors requiring a win to leapfrog neighbours City in the race for fourth spot and Champions League football.

Delving into the attacking data, the numbers bode well for both teams tonight. In terms of overall attempts across their respective last four, both West Ham (70) and United (65) sit amongst the top five, with the Hammers bettering their visitors by 42 shots inside the box to 35. Indeed, Slaven Bilic’s side have produced more than double the number of big chances (13 to six) than the Red Devils, which bodes well for their chances of bouncing back from Saturday’s disastrous home defeat at the hands of Swansea.

Looking at the defensive numbers, though, United’s defence have conceded just 24 shots inside the box over the same time frame – only Newcastle (17) have managed less. Whilst the Red Devils’ recent resilience is summed up by just one goal against – compared to their hosts’ seven strikes conceded – it’s somewhat surprising to see that Bilic’s side have allowed the opposition only four more efforts (28) from close-range than their visitors ahead of tonight’s encounter.

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  1. Ziro Becomes One
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is this the highest no. of pages on a dugout article? Already ~35 pages at full time. Still an hour to go.

  2. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone for Andre Ayew captain in GW38? 🙂

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Hoping Swansea will do us a favour 😆

  3. Annie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Carrolls baby is a brute

  4. jam sandwich
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    81 + Lovren, Defoe, van Aanholt and Hazard

    any good?

    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Nah mate, I got 90 + Moreno, Coutinho, PvA, Hazard and Defoe.

      1. MicksMasterMike
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Na thats a crap score, should be well over 100 points 😉

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      No

      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        JUUUUUUUUUUUUHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    3. Kurtinho
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Average I'd say

    4. Ziro Becomes One
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Red arrow

  5. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Payet(CCC) unite.

    36 juicy points.

    😎

    1. rivercityransom
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      might not get any baps, antonio and sakho are dangerously close

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Carroll (C)(C)(C) unite.

      9 juicy points.

      😎

      1. JAC THE CAT
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Carroll has made me feel sick

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          🙁 Same 🙁

          1. JAC THE CAT
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Keeping him for the final GW?

            1. Jazz!
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 1 month ago

              Yeah. Firmino > Mane (c) can only save me now ... I think West Ham would want to show another good performance and I hope Carroll actually does something

    3. John Nerdelbaum
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      reckon he'll get 2?

    4. Ziro Becomes One
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      o/

    5. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      O/

  6. TeddiPonza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    What would you change for the final round?

    Darlow

    Gabriel Bellerin Smalling (Cresswell Simpson)

    Mane Alexis (c) Hazard Payet (Lingard)

    Kane Lukaku Martial

    0,7m in bank.

    All I can think of is Lukaku and Hazard to Aguero and Townsend. Not to sure though.

    Thoughts?

    1. Mrm9m
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Kane to Giroud
      Payet to Tadic

  7. Paul Psychic Octopus
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Feel sorry for the young West Ham players with no babies to carry onto the pitch.

    Shouldn't they be allowed to take their pet dog on or something?

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Rashfords mum brought his teddy on

  8. Hammers Select
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Payet TC unite

    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Wasted mine on Aguero a few weeks ago

      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        GW34 I think it was

      2. Ziro Becomes One
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Wasted your BB in this week you mean. Tsk tsk. 😉

        1. Numb
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          We'll see at the end of tomorrow. TC + BB

        2. The Red Devil
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          See, TC 34 + BB 37 was right! 😛

      3. Powers106
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Wasted mine on a last minute change to Martial from Aguero and got 9 instead of 78 or whatever a few GW back.... don't feel too badly. Gonna lose the my league by something like 10 points, crikey!

    2. Garlana
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      So tense but blummin great game, so close to picking Carroll too

  9. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Noble: 'With this team I don't feel like we've ever gonna lose. Apart from on Saturday when we were 4-1 down.'

    Lol

  10. AlCapwnUK
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    any Khazri owners about?
    So far owning him has been great, really hoping for more returns tomorrow.

    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'd expect some too...!

      Hopefully assisting Defoe.

    2. Richd
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Me

  11. El Libe
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I really hope that next year FPL will be without this stupid TC and BB.Just give us 2 WCs thats all i need.

    1. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      It will be very interesting what they keep or don't keep...I think BB and TC are here to stay along with the 2 WCs. They just need to get rid of AOA for something far better and useful.

      1. El Libe
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I hope not!!! for me TC and BB is all about luck AOA so useless!

    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      *1

  12. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Mark Noble has been West Hams best player this season.

    1. Tangerine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Well clearly it's been Payet don't be silly

    2. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      😆

  13. AC Pilkington
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Payet only 1 Bonus point realistically?

    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      2

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe 0. Depends on deductions.

      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Payet doesn't tend to get deductions does he?

        1. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Missed a couple of shots, those will be deducted if they haven't already.

      2. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Created tons of chances

    3. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Could be anywhere between 0 and 2

  14. The Red Devil
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    It's 3 am here, mixed feelings, united in Europa, payet TC salvaging gw 37
    Looking forward to tomorrow with
    Hazard
    Defoe
    PVA

    1. Nascimento
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      This is what I don't get about Man Utd fans. There is literally no other club where you would get fans of a club that have just missed out on Champions league football saying they have mixed feelings.

      1. The Red Devil
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Whatever it takes to get lvg out, if he quits after we miss out on 4th, so be it

        1. Nascimento
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          I have to be honest - that is disgusting and you're not a Man Utd fan.

          1. Bazzalona
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            he won't quit.
            but seeing as I've seen an heard Liverpool, arsenal, spurs, Chelsea fans say much the same thing over the years about some of their respective managers then there must be a lot of non-genuine fans knocking about

          2. The Red Devil
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Wow!
            1- we don't deserve to be in UCL, that's being honest
            2- just because you love something, doesn't mean you blindly follow & overlook the faults
            3- very funny of you to pick up an internet quarrel, wow, you must be so much fun
            4- how dare you use the word disgusting to me, you random stranger!

      2. The Red Devil
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        But you're right about one thing
        You'll never get what a Manchester United fan is about
        Try not to irritate me further, please? Or would that be a disgusting thing to ask?

        1. Bazzalona
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          hate the term abu but on this occasion it fits like a glove.

    2. WE GO FOR IT
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Same here. Feeling awful about United, so can't even celebrate the Payet(tc) points. Would trade the points for a win in a heartbeat.
      Have the same 3+Fab,Milner and Sturridge. Hoping for a goal fest in Liverpool vs Chelsea.

      1. The Red Devil
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Lvg out you think? That'd cheer me up

        1. WE GO FOR IT
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Nothing will cheer me up until we get into CL, not even sacking LvG.

          1. Bazzalona
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            why is champions league so important to you if you don't mind me asking?
            even the two times we won it in my lifetime I got far more enjoyment out of the league titles we won in the same season.

            1. WE GO FOR IT
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 1 month ago

              Can't imagine United without CL. League titles are fun no doubt. But, playing in the CL is very important if we want to grow as a team. Plus, top players won't come for a team who hasn't had CL for 2 out of the last 3 years.

              1. Bazzalona
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 1 month ago

                for me, the only reason we need to be in the chl (wish it was still the European cup - much better competition) is as you say, it attracts better players.
                I've always been in the minority on this one I admit, amongst mates and family, I just don't get excited by being in Europe.
                its a terrible shame in my eyes that we are in the fa cup final - when I was a kid that was the biggest game of the season - yet its being dismissed as a consolation prize because we may finish 5th not 4th.

          2. The Red Devil
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            I think, the playing style matters, to me personally, more than anything else, I yearn to see swashbuckling football, & this manager is unlikely to provide it
            & we won't really go too far in UCL anyway, but we will be helped by fresh ideas

            1. WE GO FOR IT
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 1 month ago

              I guess it's stuck in my head that LvG will be replaced by Jose no matter what.

  15. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Some game. I didn't even realise januzij came on.

    Gained another 6 points on my rival. 31 ahead as it stands.

    2moro is game of my season.

    I have robles, Pva, firmino, Sturridge.

    He has defoe and hazard (TC)

    Gonna be close.

    1. AlCapwnUK
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Robles not playing.
      Howard is getting a home fixture goodbye match

      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        They play away tmrw

        1. AlCapwnUK
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          had my match ticker on the wrong week. right you are

      2. Ziro Becomes One
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Robles is playing tomm. It's an away match. Howard will play in 38

      3. camarozz
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Robles away tomorrow so he plays.

  16. Jazz!
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Rival: 24 points + Gomes + Firmino
    Me: Defoe + Fabregas

    Someone tell me I'm still in this ... 😕

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Easy win for you.

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        😀

    2. WE GO FOR IT
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Even my rival has Gomes + Firmino. Both are getting red cards. And a goal apiece for Defoe and Fabregas.

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Yay

    3. Ziro Becomes One
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Gomes OG and RC.
      Defoe and Fab hatties

      1. WE GO FOR IT
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        with assists from PvA and Hazard.

  17. Bazzalona
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    deserved win for the home team, knew we wouldn't rain on another parade.
    still, its the fa cup I want.
    payet tc and Antonio so that may just mean a green arrow

    1. Nascimento
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      That amount of money spent and can't even beat West Ham - think you'd be better off just supporting someone else.

      1. Bazzalona
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        no you're ok i'll carry on supporting my team thanks

        1. Nascimento
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Ok, hope you still do after the FA cup final.

  18. drughi
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Thank you dimitri

  19. Thunder Warrior
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is it confirmed that Costa is injured?

    1. For Fuchs Sake
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Ben Dinnery ‏@BenDinnery 3h3 hours ago
      Diego Costa will play no part in the two remaining PL fixtures after suffering an unspecified leg injury. #CFC

      1. Az
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Wow. Dodged a bullet there

    2. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      It gets better and better..

  20. Tangerine
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    United could easily miss out on Europa as well if they lose to Bournmouth!

    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      That'll just help their title charge.

    2. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      They get in if they win the FA cup

    3. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I hope they get it

    4. For Fuchs Sake
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not a bad thing, Europa a waste, Thurs nights, Sunday PL games. Look at L'Pool this year, 8th in the league

      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        But they might actually get Champions League next year 😆

      2. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Europa deserves a lot more respect from PL teams. United not remotely good enough to get near a CL final, they should focus on Europa if they get it.

      3. Tangerine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        They could also win the ELand qualify for the champs league AND finish 5th overall in the prem!

  21. AlCapwnUK
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    average points for today?

    1. jpdyolf
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      41

      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Surely not?

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      24 where it counts.

  22. Thiga
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    https://twitter.com/BenDinnery/status/730105457260507136

    Is Costa really injured?

    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      No smoke without fire. Though ben dinnery is a curseword on here

  23. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    86 (-8) after bonus and Redmond, Defoe and PVA to go.

    Not bad, FFFix predicts me jump from 12k to 7k.

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Who did youhave tonight besides payet TC?

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Lanzini, Cresswell, Rooney and DDG

    2. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Are you counting 2baps for Payet?

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Yup

  24. Vpan
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I somehow forgot to confirm TC on Payet so I have to play it last GW now.

    A) Aguero

    Or

    B) Sanchez

  25. HammersFan
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Giroud or Wellbeck for the last gw?

    Who will get more minutes?

    1. AC Pilkington
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Welbeck will get many minutes on a hospital bed

  26. Pointless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Andy Carroll's just offered to pay my £10 ML stake for next season. A true gent.

    1. Richd
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Cost me my £250 ML :/

      2nd place will suffice, but can't risk a mental captain as could end up 3rd if I do..

  27. Milner4eva
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Payet is a legend, need 2 baps from him and I'm stoked

    1. drughi
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Could be 0 bps

      1. AC Pilkington
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Il meet halfway- 1 point

    2. Garlana
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'd be content with 1

  28. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    UPDATE

    So I set up a Yes/ No challenge for this week with 11 questions. 32 posters took the challenge, and so far 4 of the questions have been decided. The other 7 will be decided tomorrow evening.

    2) Will Man Utd keep a clean sheet over their two games? YES
    4) Will West Ham score more than 3 goals over their two games? YES
    5) Will Norwich lose one of their games? YES
    11) Will Martial score a goal? YES

    Leaders so far (with 4/4):

    Cruicky
    Kopite65
    Garlana
    HVT
    Balders
    Anoop TK

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OaFblqWgVCFue4hrZlEGh1VILzpASDNU8kmS-sJkpzo/edit#gid=0

    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Remaining

      1) Will Sturridge outscore Kane?
      3) Will Everton keep a clean sheet over their two games?
      6) Will Sunderland lose one of their two games?
      7) Will Everton score more than 2 goals over their two games?
      8) Will Hazard outscore both Mahrez and De Bruyne? (not combined)
      9) Will Ighalo score a goal?
      10) Will Milner get an assist?

      1. WE GO FOR IT
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Can I answer the remaining 7 to enter now?

  29. FudgyBadger
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I've dropped from 52k to 140k 🙁 tomorrow it will only get worse

  30. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    LVG out!