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Today’s first Euro 2016 match is only the second British home nations clash at a major tournament, as England take on Wales in Group B.

The two sides have a long history on the international stage, having played each other 102 times, with England winning 66 times to Wales’ 14 victories, the last of which came in 1984.

Chris Coleman’s Wales go into the match on the back of a confidence building 2-1 win against Slovakia, where an impressive eight of their 11 goal attempts were on target.

In contrast England’s confidence took a knock after they conceded in injury time in their 1-1 draw with Russia. Roy Hodgson’s team will have to be more clinical if they are to beat Wales after seeing two thirds of their 15 goal attempts against Russia fail to hit the target.

A performance to rival that of their only previous home nations major tournament tie, when they beat Scotland in Euro 96, may be needed if England is to get the better of their noisy neighbours.

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  1. theBoose
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Has anyone got the link to the Roy Hodgson's RMT Hot Topic please?

  2. Jazz!
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    If you could have 3 forwards for next week ONLY, who would they be?

    Bearing in mind you can only have 1 10mill+ forward.

    1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Stancu - Muller - Nani

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Stancu and Nani, that's interesting.

        1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          CR7 tempting, but Muller vs NI. Hmm.

          1. Jazz!
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Quite a few options!

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Dunno yet. But 1 will be Müller.

    3. ROOTY7
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Muller Giroud Vardy

    4. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Not sure, definitely Bale though.

  3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    3 Russians sentenced to 12, 18 and 24 months worth of jailtime.
    One of them a leader in Russian clubs hooligan supporter section.

  4. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Full credit for that win goes to Roy for me, utter genius with those substitutions! C'mon Roy!!!

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      shouldve started with vardy tbh

      1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I know I was only joking. 😆

      2. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        *Sturridge

    2. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I'm not sure I'd go as far as 'genius', given that it seemed to be 'let's add strikers to get goals'. But it was brave and it worked. 🙂

      1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        He mad a poor starting XI selection for me, I think against Slovakia he needs to change it!

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Yep, Kane's time is up.

          1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            No Dembélé. 😉

  5. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    @Lucy I think you have got this one right Kono vs Hughes looks promising . I went with Muller

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I hope I have!

  6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Reading through the comments, last hour. Not edifying. 🙁

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Roy's a tactical genius!! 😉 😉 😉

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        There you go again ...

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Just kidding 😆 I'm pretty sure everyone else were too.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah ... 🙂

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        He's doing better than I am ... 😉

        1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          I doubt it! 😆

  7. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I am going to see x men tonight decent ?

    1. Vedas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Nah

    2. Lallana_
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Olivia Munn is

    3. Hooky
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I read that as sex men at first 😆

    4. The Wise Owl
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Great film!

  8. Slam
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Yarm(C) 😎
    Its time

    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Switched to Bale(c) last minute

  9. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    any news on whether studge managed to re-break ledley's leg?

  10. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    lol @ people picking Muller before the knockouts 😛

    1. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ronaldo-Yarm-Gru ftw 😎

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        gru milik pelle 😎

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Lol at people like me picking Müller in the first place.

      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        he's a good pick, but he;s a big game player he tends to do better in the knockouts. I think it's also partly a consequence of knockout football tending to be more open so he has more Raum to Deuter

  11. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    @BBCWALES.

    Gareth Bale

    "I thought they'd won the Euros the way they celebrated at the end," he said.

    "It was unbelievable. We tried hard to win the game and England didn't try anything. This, in my opinion, shows a small mentality and they are not going to do anything in the competition"

    1. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      This sounds familiar... :lol

    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      link or leave

    3. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      That's a very nice CR7 quote? 😀

    4. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      😀

    5. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Cristiano Ronaldo* 😆

    6. Lallana_
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      hahaha

  12. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    what formation are NI playing?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Up and at 'em!

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Up and atom 😉

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Mighty Atom!

        2. The Nuttmxn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Up and at them!

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Down with this sort of thing! 😉

    2. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Probably a 4-5-1 with Washington lone striker!

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        kono(c) ftw! 😎

        1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah great punt! 🙂

    3. Lynxy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Bury Kono Formation!

  13. 7alwachi
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on KDB and Nolito to Stanciu and Bale for the last group games?

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      stanciu probs wont start again.

  14. Jazz!
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I want Ronaldo, Bale, Muller, Milik and Vardy next week. This is gonna be a hard decision 🙁

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Or Sturridge instead of Vardy maybe.

    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Vardy shouldn't start next game, imo.

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Not sure if Roy can bench Kane from the off, so might even start with Kane and Vardy. I really hope Sturridge starts.

      2. Lynxy
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Are you kidding?

        1. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          No.

    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ukraine is Lewa's game

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Nah, they'll all be marking Lewa leaving Milik in space and BOOM

    4. I Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Think I'll go with Ronaldo, Muller and Vardy.

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Hmmm, thanks.

  15. SW6
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    You can all hate on Roy all you want, but suggest to me a better (that includes experience) English manager right now..?

    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Had the discussion on Twitter before. There isn't one The most experienced English managers out there are Bruce and Allardyce, followed by Pards

      IMO they'll promote Southgate when Roy goes

    2. Lynxy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Moyes?

      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        he be Scottish

    3. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Sir Alex Ferguson

        1. Defcons are for Kinnear
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          😆
          What about Arsene Wenger

    4. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Why does he need to be English?

      1. The Nuttmxn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I think to truly manage the English you must have had to suffer the pain of being an England supporter, allows them to cope with future pain better.

    5. Ruth_NZ
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Redknapp would have been a better choice at the time. We'd have had Terry playing at the last World Cup for a start.

      Howe would be a better choice now and give him time to develop in the job as Coleman has done for Wales.

      Hodgson is there because he doesn't rock the FA boat. It is the FA that are to blame.

      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        +1

  16. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    right gone for Kono as my pick. I may have pulled NI in the seeps, but they are still the worst side in this group and I am trying to break a cycle of my picks being subbed early. Looks like Kono is on everything for them

  17. The Tinkerman
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Right. I'm terrible at choosing captains. Giroud and Kane so far. Someone else please pick tomorrow's captain for me:
    A) Iniesta
    B) Morata

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      A). I've got him. 🙂

    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Morata had a lot of chances is Spain's 1st game. But Iniesta is a safe choice.

  18. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Hello dudes. No Frogball update today?

    I know my side isn't doing their bit this gameweek but it would be interesting

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      He makes an article every gameweek. He probably updated it on the spreadsheet though.

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        No scores on the spreadsheet yet. Maybe tomorrow

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Ah

  19. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    why no italians or suedes in captain poll for tomorrow?

    1. Hooky
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Were you supposed to post that on a shoe fetish website?

    2. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Brett Anderson pulled his hammy

  20. SweepaKeepa
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Anderson (c)

    1. Hooky
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Brett?

      1. SweepaKeepa
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Yes - reply fail to Pklewy.

        1. Hooky
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Thought it might be as I was thinking on the same lines 🙂

  21. Rolls-Royce
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Rooney has been Magnificent in both games.

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      . . .

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        .

      2. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        What's wrong with that statement?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Everything. 🙁

    2. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Was excellent today.. wasn't impressed with his performance against Russia tbh

    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I actually agree, which is really strange.

    4. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Agreed.

  22. The Wise Owl
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Just booked my legends stadium tour at the Emirates on July 9th with Charlie George.

    Super psyched! I will need to ask him about the offside rule though.

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      One of the best goal celebrations ever.

      Tardelli's was the best goal celebration of all time.

    2. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Always wanted to go one with Lee Dixon, hope it's good.

  23. sloppy
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    How much does Sturridge cost? Vardy costs 7 right?

    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      7.5.. yes

  24. Jedi_Reed
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    How likely is Strinic to start for Croatia? Is he worth subbing on for a 2 pointer?

    1. 420king
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      look below

  25. 420king
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Croatian media thinks Strinić will start tomorrow thanks to "bib theory"

    http://gol.dnevnik.hr/clanak/euro-2016/otkrili-smo-sastav-za-hrvatska-ceska-cacic-salje-istu-postavu---440568.html

    They do add that Čačić is unpredictable and could change his mind in next 24 hours though.

    1. Jedi_Reed
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Awesome. Thanks for the heads up.

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Cheers, hope he starts.

  26. George Sillett
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Supporting England is mentally exhausting. Think FFS members should puck the team.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Vardy Sturridge Lallana for me to start up front.

      Sterling sent home.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        The only possible explanation I can think of for sterling being in the team is comedic value.

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Well, I certainly think that someone should puck the team.

      Don't agree about Sterling, though.

      At all.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Respect your views always Doos but what is it about Sterling that is good apart from pace ? For me he constantly gets in good positions but then either gives the ball away or when shooting misses frequently. Be interested to hear what you see in him.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Everything. Position, passing, crossing. Keeping hold of the ball, as long as he is reasonably supported.

          But - he is no good if there is a crap passer in midfield, who slows things down. But, again - that is not his fault.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            PS Sorry - my Mac went awol there.

          2. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            I just think he is the ultimate frustrating footballer. I agree quick ball makes all the difference but so often there seems to be no end product. Maybe a combination of a big transfer fee and high expectation has come too soon. It will be very interesting to see what occurs in the future with Rashford. Pucking the team should be sourced elsewhere by the way !

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              I disagree fundamentally about the no end product. It is an urban myth, promulgated by perfidious pundits.

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 10 months ago

                Agreed. I have no stomach for it! 😆

                1. George Sillett
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 10 months ago

                  And I am weak at the knees.

                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    9 years, 10 months ago

                    Hahaha!!!

  27. Jazz!
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Stanciu would've been a beautiful cheap midfield option to have next week. Not sure whether to risk it though after playing 0 minutes v Switzerland ... 😕

    1. 420king
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      we will have the lineup for Albania match....

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Oh, just realised both games are at 20:00. Nice 🙂

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Hooray. But who would be the back up ...

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          That's the question ... 🙁 🙁

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            If Poland get through ... Kapustka?

            1. Jazz!
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              I saw Johnny mention him earlier. I'll give him a look. 🙂