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Today’s first Euro 2016 match is only the second British home nations clash at a major tournament, as England take on Wales in Group B.

The two sides have a long history on the international stage, having played each other 102 times, with England winning 66 times to Wales’ 14 victories, the last of which came in 1984.

Chris Coleman’s Wales go into the match on the back of a confidence building 2-1 win against Slovakia, where an impressive eight of their 11 goal attempts were on target.

In contrast England’s confidence took a knock after they conceded in injury time in their 1-1 draw with Russia. Roy Hodgson’s team will have to be more clinical if they are to beat Wales after seeing two thirds of their 15 goal attempts against Russia fail to hit the target.

A performance to rival that of their only previous home nations major tournament tie, when they beat Scotland in Euro 96, may be needed if England is to get the better of their noisy neighbours.

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  1. Paul Psychic Octopus
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Sterling's finishing (and control) as good as ever

  2. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Sterling is an absolute fraud. He's so poor.

  3. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Ramsey's everywhere....

    1. Sif
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      But not a drop to Drinkwater.

  4. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Who is worst - Lukaku, Sterling or Giroud?

    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Frontline on fantasy next season? 😉

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        *vomits everywhere*

    2. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      They are all terrible at their own different things, impossible to compare them.

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Sterling. Cost 50m.

    4. Ask Yourself
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Close with lukaku and sterling

  5. Shirokov(c)
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Let's be honest, if Vardy was playing it would be 1-0.

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      This

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      That cross would never have happened, different chain of events

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        I'm not talking about that cross, I'm saying that in general.

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Sure you were 😉

          1. Shirokov(c)
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            😉

  6. Fiona B
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Seriously WTF does Vardy have to do to start a game over headless Sterling?

    Roy needs to go.

  7. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    If Vardy was at the end that cross would've been 100% goal

    Well done WOY for going sterling again

  8. Nicks93
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Sterling has been dreadful

  9. Shirokov(c)
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Looks like I got the Vardy bandwagon rolling

    *flies away*

  10. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    If Pep can't save him, no one can.

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      More likely to sell than save

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Really has been a let down apart from sporadic moments of brilliance. It's either the worst it the best, and mostly the worst. The lack of a middle ground is an issue.

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          *or it's the best*

    2. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Plenty of time considering his age.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Many others around his age lighting up the world right now.

        1. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Vardy and Mahrez weren't.

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            They had to work for it. Sterling's been spoonfed, and that leads to less desire and hunger.

  11. Ayew Serious
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Vardy isn't a winger....

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      But he is a footballer

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Correct

    2. Fiona B
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Whenever has that ever stopped an English manager picking people out of position?

      "well done, you are one of the best strikers in the league .... play on the wing"

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Maybe that's why England always underachieve...

        1. Fiona B
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Exactly two things (1) picking on club rather than form and (2) those few form players being asked to do a job they aren't used to / haven't got form for

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            Exactly. So people need to expect when it comes to wingplay Sterling>Vardy

            1. Fiona B
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 1 day ago

              In that case you pick the formation that suits your strongest players. You don't ask your best players to play out of position and you don't pick a formation that benches your best players for Sterling.

    3. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      What defines a winger ?....

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Someone who can play as a winger

        1. Shirokov(c)
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Case closed.

        2. Jafooli
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Define someone?

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            Everyone apart from Vardy and you

  12. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Rooney has zero intelligence in midfield. Painful watching him.

  13. Fiona B
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Gareth Bale absolutely robbing fat slow Rooney there.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Can't say I'm surprised

  14. john_t
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Anyone notice weird point errors in the UEFA MD game? My points from yesterday were miscalculated (off by 4 points) and some individual players have inaccurate game day points in their bios. I emailed to the site, but no response. I think the interface is the worst it has ever been.

    1. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      They update it the day after you make subs and captain changes, so the info is out of date once you've changed something.

      1. john_t
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        That's the weird thing - this was after the daily update. I had (1) Schennikov, (9) Rami, (10) Hamsik, (16) Payet as captain, (2) for Giroud. Totals 38, but it gave me 34. It had shown 38 during the game earlier in the day. I didn't take any of these players out. Then you go to Payet's individual points summary and they are incorrect for the second game. Definitely something screwed up going on here.

    2. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      It's just an awful website in general.

  15. tm245
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Bale looks like Mata Hari.

  16. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Kane close.....

  17. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Takes free kicks like Ronaldo.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Hits the wall or smashes into orbit?

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Exactly! 😀

      2. puddingbrood
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        It's destined to hit the wall in euro 2020 when it reenters the earths atmosphere.

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          😆

  18. SilkySkills
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    ffsake kane

  19. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Ramsey is one hell of a player on his day.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Him and Bale would walk into this team if you ask me

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Walk into any team.

        Actually Bale would have plenty of competition for further up the pitch but as a box to box player Ramsey has very few peers....if any...

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          None of them players compare to Bale

    2. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      When he's in the mood, yeah. Which wasn't that often at all this season.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Yeah...hence "on his day"...he needs to rewind two years for consistency.

        1. Shirokov(c)
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          That Zidane-esque season.....amazing.

    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Good at what he does.

      Hopefully Xhaka will help him.

  20. tm245
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    This match makes a lot of their club teammates look much better.

  21. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    shock...diving and cheating already

  22. Forza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Only Robbie Savage could make you wish Andy Townsend was on.

  23. Hooky
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    This is like watching a Championship match. Lots of effort but very little quality

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Don't insult the Championship 😉

  24. puddingbrood
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Walking wanted to go for an early cross but no one realized they had to make a run.

    1. puddingbrood
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      walker* hehe

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Could have been worse 😉

  25. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    I bet Shearer congratulates himself on getting Woy to take Kane off corners 😉

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Shearer is my least favourite pundit. So dumb

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        he speaks highly of you though

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          -_-

      2. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        He really isn't. Have you met him in person?

  26. RoyaleBlue
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Right call

    1. puddingbrood
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      The right call but not the correct call according to the rules.

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        ?
        yes it is

        1. puddingbrood
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Hand going to the ball and arms not next to his body.

          It would've been incredibly harsh as it had zero impact, but that doesn't mean it's not a handball.

          1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            "Hand going to the ball and arms not next to his body." show me that in the rules.

            intentional is the key part

            1. puddingbrood
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 1 day ago

              No that's for giving a card too.

              http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2011_12_en.pdf
              page 113

              Now you could be right though cause it also says "
              * the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
              * the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
              * the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an
              infringement"

    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      seen them given though. especially with the non fouls he's penalised us for so far

  27. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Robbie Savage is making my blood boil

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      I wouldn't get that wound up

  28. SW6
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Lallana having a good game again

  29. tm245
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    McManaman letting England have it on ESPN.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      They deserve it

  30. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Rooney looks like a gutter brush.....

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      *orc

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        an*

    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Gets uglier by the day.

    3. tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Rode hard and put away wet, as they say.