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Today’s first Euro 2016 match is only the second British home nations clash at a major tournament, as England take on Wales in Group B.

The two sides have a long history on the international stage, having played each other 102 times, with England winning 66 times to Wales’ 14 victories, the last of which came in 1984.

Chris Coleman’s Wales go into the match on the back of a confidence building 2-1 win against Slovakia, where an impressive eight of their 11 goal attempts were on target.

In contrast England’s confidence took a knock after they conceded in injury time in their 1-1 draw with Russia. Roy Hodgson’s team will have to be more clinical if they are to beat Wales after seeing two thirds of their 15 goal attempts against Russia fail to hit the target.

A performance to rival that of their only previous home nations major tournament tie, when they beat Scotland in Euro 96, may be needed if England is to get the better of their noisy neighbours.

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  1. Paul Psychic Octopus
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Sterling's finishing (and control) as good as ever

  2. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Sterling is an absolute fraud. He's so poor.

  3. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Ramsey's everywhere....

    1. Sif
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      But not a drop to Drinkwater.

  4. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Who is worst - Lukaku, Sterling or Giroud?

    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Frontline on fantasy next season? 😉

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        *vomits everywhere*

    2. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      They are all terrible at their own different things, impossible to compare them.

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Sterling. Cost 50m.

    4. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Close with lukaku and sterling

  5. Shirokov(c)
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Let's be honest, if Vardy was playing it would be 1-0.

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      This

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      That cross would never have happened, different chain of events

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I'm not talking about that cross, I'm saying that in general.

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Sure you were 😉

          1. Shirokov(c)
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            😉

  6. Fiona B
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Seriously WTF does Vardy have to do to start a game over headless Sterling?

    Roy needs to go.

  7. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    If Vardy was at the end that cross would've been 100% goal

    Well done WOY for going sterling again

  8. Nicks93
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Sterling has been dreadful

  9. Shirokov(c)
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Looks like I got the Vardy bandwagon rolling

    *flies away*

  10. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    If Pep can't save him, no one can.

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      More likely to sell than save

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Really has been a let down apart from sporadic moments of brilliance. It's either the worst it the best, and mostly the worst. The lack of a middle ground is an issue.

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          *or it's the best*

    2. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Plenty of time considering his age.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Many others around his age lighting up the world right now.

        1. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Vardy and Mahrez weren't.

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            They had to work for it. Sterling's been spoonfed, and that leads to less desire and hunger.

  11. Ayew Serious
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Vardy isn't a winger....

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      But he is a footballer

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Correct

    2. Fiona B
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Whenever has that ever stopped an English manager picking people out of position?

      "well done, you are one of the best strikers in the league .... play on the wing"

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Maybe that's why England always underachieve...

        1. Fiona B
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Exactly two things (1) picking on club rather than form and (2) those few form players being asked to do a job they aren't used to / haven't got form for

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Exactly. So people need to expect when it comes to wingplay Sterling>Vardy

            1. Fiona B
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              In that case you pick the formation that suits your strongest players. You don't ask your best players to play out of position and you don't pick a formation that benches your best players for Sterling.

    3. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      What defines a winger ?....

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Someone who can play as a winger

        1. Shirokov(c)
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Case closed.

        2. Jafooli
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Define someone?

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Everyone apart from Vardy and you

  12. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Rooney has zero intelligence in midfield. Painful watching him.

  13. Fiona B
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Gareth Bale absolutely robbing fat slow Rooney there.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Can't say I'm surprised

  14. john_t
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone notice weird point errors in the UEFA MD game? My points from yesterday were miscalculated (off by 4 points) and some individual players have inaccurate game day points in their bios. I emailed to the site, but no response. I think the interface is the worst it has ever been.

    1. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      They update it the day after you make subs and captain changes, so the info is out of date once you've changed something.

      1. john_t
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        That's the weird thing - this was after the daily update. I had (1) Schennikov, (9) Rami, (10) Hamsik, (16) Payet as captain, (2) for Giroud. Totals 38, but it gave me 34. It had shown 38 during the game earlier in the day. I didn't take any of these players out. Then you go to Payet's individual points summary and they are incorrect for the second game. Definitely something screwed up going on here.

    2. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      It's just an awful website in general.

  15. tm245
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Bale looks like Mata Hari.

  16. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Kane close.....

  17. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Takes free kicks like Ronaldo.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Hits the wall or smashes into orbit?

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Exactly! 😀

      2. puddingbrood
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        It's destined to hit the wall in euro 2020 when it reenters the earths atmosphere.

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          😆

  18. SilkySkills
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    ffsake kane

  19. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Ramsey is one hell of a player on his day.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Him and Bale would walk into this team if you ask me

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Walk into any team.

        Actually Bale would have plenty of competition for further up the pitch but as a box to box player Ramsey has very few peers....if any...

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          None of them players compare to Bale

    2. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      When he's in the mood, yeah. Which wasn't that often at all this season.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah...hence "on his day"...he needs to rewind two years for consistency.

        1. Shirokov(c)
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          That Zidane-esque season.....amazing.

    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Good at what he does.

      Hopefully Xhaka will help him.

  20. tm245
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    This match makes a lot of their club teammates look much better.

  21. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    shock...diving and cheating already

  22. Forza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Only Robbie Savage could make you wish Andy Townsend was on.

  23. Hooky
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    This is like watching a Championship match. Lots of effort but very little quality

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Don't insult the Championship 😉

  24. puddingbrood
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Walking wanted to go for an early cross but no one realized they had to make a run.

    1. puddingbrood
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      walker* hehe

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Could have been worse 😉

  25. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I bet Shearer congratulates himself on getting Woy to take Kane off corners 😉

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Shearer is my least favourite pundit. So dumb

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        he speaks highly of you though

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          -_-

      2. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        He really isn't. Have you met him in person?

  26. RoyaleBlue
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Right call

    1. puddingbrood
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      The right call but not the correct call according to the rules.

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        ?
        yes it is

        1. puddingbrood
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Hand going to the ball and arms not next to his body.

          It would've been incredibly harsh as it had zero impact, but that doesn't mean it's not a handball.

          1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            "Hand going to the ball and arms not next to his body." show me that in the rules.

            intentional is the key part

            1. puddingbrood
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              No that's for giving a card too.

              http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2011_12_en.pdf
              page 113

              Now you could be right though cause it also says "
              * the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
              * the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
              * the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an
              infringement"

    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      seen them given though. especially with the non fouls he's penalised us for so far

  27. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Robbie Savage is making my blood boil

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I wouldn't get that wound up

  28. SW6
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Lallana having a good game again

  29. tm245
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    McManaman letting England have it on ESPN.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      They deserve it

  30. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Rooney looks like a gutter brush.....

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      *orc

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        an*

    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Gets uglier by the day.

    3. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Rode hard and put away wet, as they say.