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The first of two Thursday evening Euro 2016 matches sees Michael O’Neill’s Northern Ireland face Ukraine, with both sides seeking the points having lost their opening Group C matches.

With Germany next up for Northern Ireland and Ukraine facing a tricky tie with Poland in their final match, this will be a contest that both will have earmarked as a must win.

However, goals may be hard to come by, with Mykhaylo Fomenko’s Ukraine managing just five attempts in their 2-0 loss to Germany. Northern Ireland have been even more shot-shy, recording a tournament worst two goal attempts in their 1-0 defeat to Poland.

Over their four match ups Northern Ireland have never beaten Ukraine, who are playing in only their second European Championship, having co-hosted Euro 2012.

If Ukraine are to once again prevail corners may be key: they won 12 against Germany, with only Spain winning more in the tournament’s opening set of fixtures.

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  1. PlayON
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Killian here from PlayON,

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    1. LarryDuff
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Hi Killian, did you captain Kono?

  2. A.T
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Hart needs dropping if you ask me. Great on his day but always prone to a big mistake. Dropped the ball in the first half and got lucky, lets in the Bale free kick, he needs to go.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      That's bold

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      That's bold

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

    3. The Wise Owl
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Roy needs to stop thinking with his Hart....

  3. George Sillett
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Sterling should be made to walk home.

    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Wearing a big pointy hat with a massive D on it.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Too right.

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Or even a sign saying "free to a good home "

    2. Hooky
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      He'd probably turn down a blind alley and get lost

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        That would be a massive result for Pep.

    3. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      It'll be extremely interesting to see what Guardiola does with him.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Sell sell sell Rodney.

        1. Blue&White85
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Think he'll give him a chance and see if he can improve him but his patience won't last long.

  4. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I think I already have Jonny Evans in my FPL team next season.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Him or Foster

  5. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    What's the most you would pay for Rooney as a midfielder in FPL?

    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      9

    2. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      4.0
      Shane Ferguson

    3. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Around 8 but even then I'd pick Firmino, Payet and Alli ahead of him now.

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Firmino 9
        Payet 10
        Alli 8.5

    4. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Not sure I'd fancy him as an option unless he becomes a lot more direct under Mourinho.

    5. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I wouldn't buy him, in this role.

    6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      2 bob.

  6. George Sillett
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Come on Ireland , I really do need you to score. The Albania lowest tournament goal bet needs your help.

    1. 420king
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      what happens if there's a tie? void?

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        No its still a winner. If there are joint lowest the odds are divided by the number of teams with that goal total.

        1. 420king
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          I see. I hope they score too, have no Ukraine defenders 😛

    2. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      What odds did you get?

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Went in too early i'm afraid , £50 at 9/2

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        They were 8/11 this morning.

  7. Hooky
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Nice bit of rain to make the Irish feel at home

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      To be sure.

  8. attinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone thinking of saving wildcard for the knockout phase? Sure you could get the optimal team for GD3 but is it worth it? I mean e.g. you have 5 players from Italy and 5 players from Spain in the QF and they both go out (unlikely but not impossible, many of your other players from worse teams might go out as well) and then you have only 6 free transfers to the semis meaning that you don't get a full squad.

    Which do you think is better: optimal GD3 or full squad for QF or SF?

    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Well being as the starting line ups become unpredictable it's impossible to say which strategy guarantees most starters.

      Plenty GW1 squads will have rested players for GW3 .

    2. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      GD3

    3. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I'm using it. Unlimited transfers in the last 16, then 4 for quarters. I reckon in last 16 you could predict 6 of 8 games meaning a squad of 15 for quarters is likely anyway. 6 transfers for semi's and final should give 12/13 players which would suffice anyway.

  9. Jay_
      9 years, 10 months ago

      R.I.P Jo Cox, a mother going about her daily job, what a coward, he should be hung.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        OMG I didn't realise she had been murdered. I just heard that she was severely injured on the radio. To many nutters are allowed to run free in this world. Very sad reflection on society as a whole. R.I.P.

    • TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Scores Predictions for Ukraine vs Northern Ireland?

      1 - 0

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Ukraine win 2-0

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        A speculative 0-1

    • Keno
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Stick or Twist on Bale(C)

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Who do you have tomorrow and Saturday

        1. Keno
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Players I still have left to go:

          GIaccherini, Juanfran, Patricio, KDB, Mandukic, Strinic(rumored not to play)

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Twist to Juanfran. I reckon he's almost guaranteed to equal Bales score

          2. 420king
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            actually promising news about Strinić today...

            1. Keno
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              Strinic supposed to play?

              1. 420king
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 10 months ago

                according to latest news he is, but it's not 100% ofcourse

                http://gol.dnevnik.hr/clanak/euro-2016/otkrili-smo-sastav-za-hrvatska-ceska-cacic-salje-istu-postavu---440568.html
                (use Google Translate)

      2. Blue&White85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Stick, point in the bag in a low scoring competition is better than chasing.

    • Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Oh hell. R.I.P Jo Cox.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        A speculative 0-1it is truly sickening Wakey. Apparently the reason it happened was that the nutter who did it disagreed with her views re air strikes. A mother just doing her job.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Whipping up heightened feelings of old fashioned nationalism is a very dangerous game to play... The rhetoric being used by certain politicians is an utter disgrace and was always gonna lead to this sort of stuff.

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Unfortunately discussion has now been superceded by extreme violence. If people can't air their views without that potential outcome then it is society which is wrong.

            1. Dr Dream
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              Agreed.

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Apologies for the 0-1

    • adam28193
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      best defender for the remaining games lads?

      1. adam28193
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        remaining games in this gameweek i meant.

      2. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Have some Italian?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Too loose. Linguine all over the place. Not holding the sauce.

      3. Blue&White85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Juanfran.

    • Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Daniel Sturridge. What a man!!

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        + 42. In every sense of the word.

      2. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I really was beginning to despair of Roy's team selection.

        As I wrote from day one...to go to a major tournament with some top strikers in our armoury is a rare thing of late. To then not play them in their rightful position, if at all, was criminal.

        If I was a club manager I wouldn't let Sturridge anywhere near my club...but as a national manager, who only needs a few games out of him, he's a top, top player.

      3. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Kane should've been dropped from the starting line up he was awful in the first match and it continued into todays game.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          He wasn't any great shakes towards the tail end of the season tbh. Dropped right off.

        2. Backup Dancer
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          He's getting dropped from my team that's for sure.

          Looked short for confidence after skying that free kick.

    • Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Much better display by Northern Ireland

      Just need a goal now

    • ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ukraine doing anything?

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Not really.

        Northern Ireland are the better team

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Wow.

        2. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Massively disagree with that.

    • Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Norman Whiteside what a player he was

      Love the beer too much

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Like so many !

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Beer. Mmmmmm ...

          I haven't been able to have beer for more than a year and a half ... 🙁

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            But there has been compensation with the Soave.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              This is true! 😆

              1. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 10 months ago

                Would be very grateful for info re the fpl leagues you run Doos.

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 10 months ago

                  Yes. Have I got your email?

                  1. George Sillett
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 10 months ago

                    No but it's cpwindsor@sky.com so respect is expected !

                    1. Ayew Serious
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 10 months ago

                      Uh oh. Sky...

                      1. George Sillett
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        Sky are great because when you threaten them with leaving they come grovelling with free unlimited broadband , low line rental and much reduced tv. Yes Murdock is a pillock but hey ................

                        1. Ayew Serious
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 10 months ago

                          I don't know too much about it tbh. I just know Doos isn't a fan of Mr. Murdoch

                        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          9 years, 10 months ago

                          I loathe the man.

                    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      9 years, 10 months ago

                      Right. On the waiting list. We are maximum 140, but there will be quite a bit of room.

                      Expect 1 or 2 emails, to which you must reply. 🙂

                      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 16 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        You have mail. 😀

                        1. George Sillett
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 10 months ago

                          Got one , replied . Thanks.

                        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          9 years, 10 months ago

                          One more - thank you! 🙂

                        3. George Sillett
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 10 months ago

                          Joined the euro league got the second e mail . Looking forward to seeing the t & c's. Many thanks Doos.

                        4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          9 years, 10 months ago

                          🙂

          2. Syd.
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Oh dear really sorry to hear that. Are you allowed any alcohol nowadays or is it a total no no after your illness?

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              Oh, yes. Firstly, when I had my ileostomy, could not risk it because of wind. Now I'm reversed, I have to wait for a full heal. Probably 8 more weeks.

          3. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Has its pros and cons.
            Mainly cons I imagine, sorry

      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        might have lasted longer at United if he didn't, that's why Fergie shipped him

        Glorious player

    • Backup Dancer
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Got 3 Ukraine defenders and the keeper in my Daily 7s.

      Got to go big.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        The only way to go.

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          I went home instead

      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Just enjoy the game mate

    • sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      who would you say have been the 3 best right backs at the Euro so far?

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        All three English ones....Walker, Kane and Rooney.

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Walker.
        Srna.
        Ermmm ...

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Hysaj

      3. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Candreva

      4. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Walker , Candreva and Srna

        1. I Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Candreva isn't a right back. Playing wing back in this system but he's definitely a midfielder.

    • JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      finding it hard to enjoy the football right now, totally senseless what has just happened here in the UK.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        What happened?

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Wow.

      2. 5678
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Same. Absolutely gutted.

      3. The Iron Tulip
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Question for those that play the sun fantasy game - if I bring in Muller right now, will his points take effect from tonight's game, or should I have made the transfer before the first game of the day?

      4. 420king
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Yesss, get in!!!! McAuley

      5. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Goal

      6. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Get in Gmac

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Love it mate

      7. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

        Get in

      8. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        SCENES

      9. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        OMG mcauley

      10. VS10_
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Daily 7's was fun while it lasted. 5 Ukraine defenders and will be a big drop from 80 overall. 🙁

      11. Shels
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        DAMM

      12. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        WBA defence!

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Bruntiesta may be the one

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          One day, someone will say that in court ... 😉