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The first of two Thursday evening Euro 2016 matches sees Michael O’Neill’s Northern Ireland face Ukraine, with both sides seeking the points having lost their opening Group C matches.

With Germany next up for Northern Ireland and Ukraine facing a tricky tie with Poland in their final match, this will be a contest that both will have earmarked as a must win.

However, goals may be hard to come by, with Mykhaylo Fomenko’s Ukraine managing just five attempts in their 2-0 loss to Germany. Northern Ireland have been even more shot-shy, recording a tournament worst two goal attempts in their 1-0 defeat to Poland.

Over their four match ups Northern Ireland have never beaten Ukraine, who are playing in only their second European Championship, having co-hosted Euro 2012.

If Ukraine are to once again prevail corners may be key: they won 12 against Germany, with only Spain winning more in the tournament’s opening set of fixtures.

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  1. PlayON
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Killian here from PlayON,

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    1. LarryDuff
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Hi Killian, did you captain Kono?

  2. A.T
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Hart needs dropping if you ask me. Great on his day but always prone to a big mistake. Dropped the ball in the first half and got lucky, lets in the Bale free kick, he needs to go.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      That's bold

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      That's bold

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

    3. The Wise Owl
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Roy needs to stop thinking with his Hart....

  3. George Sillett
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Sterling should be made to walk home.

    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Wearing a big pointy hat with a massive D on it.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Too right.

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Or even a sign saying "free to a good home "

    2. Hooky
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      He'd probably turn down a blind alley and get lost

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        That would be a massive result for Pep.

    3. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      It'll be extremely interesting to see what Guardiola does with him.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Sell sell sell Rodney.

        1. Blue&White85
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Think he'll give him a chance and see if he can improve him but his patience won't last long.

  4. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 days ago

    I think I already have Jonny Evans in my FPL team next season.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Him or Foster

  5. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 days ago

    What's the most you would pay for Rooney as a midfielder in FPL?

    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      9

    2. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      4.0
      Shane Ferguson

    3. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Around 8 but even then I'd pick Firmino, Payet and Alli ahead of him now.

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Firmino 9
        Payet 10
        Alli 8.5

    4. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Not sure I'd fancy him as an option unless he becomes a lot more direct under Mourinho.

    5. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I wouldn't buy him, in this role.

    6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      2 bob.

  6. George Sillett
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Come on Ireland , I really do need you to score. The Albania lowest tournament goal bet needs your help.

    1. 420king
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      what happens if there's a tie? void?

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        No its still a winner. If there are joint lowest the odds are divided by the number of teams with that goal total.

        1. 420king
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          I see. I hope they score too, have no Ukraine defenders 😛

    2. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      What odds did you get?

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Went in too early i'm afraid , £50 at 9/2

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        They were 8/11 this morning.

  7. Hooky
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Nice bit of rain to make the Irish feel at home

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      To be sure.

  8. attinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Anyone thinking of saving wildcard for the knockout phase? Sure you could get the optimal team for GD3 but is it worth it? I mean e.g. you have 5 players from Italy and 5 players from Spain in the QF and they both go out (unlikely but not impossible, many of your other players from worse teams might go out as well) and then you have only 6 free transfers to the semis meaning that you don't get a full squad.

    Which do you think is better: optimal GD3 or full squad for QF or SF?

    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Well being as the starting line ups become unpredictable it's impossible to say which strategy guarantees most starters.

      Plenty GW1 squads will have rested players for GW3 .

    2. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      GD3

    3. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I'm using it. Unlimited transfers in the last 16, then 4 for quarters. I reckon in last 16 you could predict 6 of 8 games meaning a squad of 15 for quarters is likely anyway. 6 transfers for semi's and final should give 12/13 players which would suffice anyway.

  9. Jay_
      10 years, 3 days ago

      R.I.P Jo Cox, a mother going about her daily job, what a coward, he should be hung.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        OMG I didn't realise she had been murdered. I just heard that she was severely injured on the radio. To many nutters are allowed to run free in this world. Very sad reflection on society as a whole. R.I.P.

    • TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Scores Predictions for Ukraine vs Northern Ireland?

      1 - 0

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Ukraine win 2-0

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        A speculative 0-1

    • Keno
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Stick or Twist on Bale(C)

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Who do you have tomorrow and Saturday

        1. Keno
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Players I still have left to go:

          GIaccherini, Juanfran, Patricio, KDB, Mandukic, Strinic(rumored not to play)

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 3 days ago

            Twist to Juanfran. I reckon he's almost guaranteed to equal Bales score

          2. 420king
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 3 days ago

            actually promising news about Strinić today...

            1. Keno
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 3 days ago

              Strinic supposed to play?

              1. 420king
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 3 days ago

                according to latest news he is, but it's not 100% ofcourse

                http://gol.dnevnik.hr/clanak/euro-2016/otkrili-smo-sastav-za-hrvatska-ceska-cacic-salje-istu-postavu---440568.html
                (use Google Translate)

      2. Blue&White85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Stick, point in the bag in a low scoring competition is better than chasing.

    • Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Oh hell. R.I.P Jo Cox.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        A speculative 0-1it is truly sickening Wakey. Apparently the reason it happened was that the nutter who did it disagreed with her views re air strikes. A mother just doing her job.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Whipping up heightened feelings of old fashioned nationalism is a very dangerous game to play... The rhetoric being used by certain politicians is an utter disgrace and was always gonna lead to this sort of stuff.

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 3 days ago

            Unfortunately discussion has now been superceded by extreme violence. If people can't air their views without that potential outcome then it is society which is wrong.

            1. Dr Dream
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 3 days ago

              Agreed.

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Apologies for the 0-1

    • adam28193
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      best defender for the remaining games lads?

      1. adam28193
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        remaining games in this gameweek i meant.

      2. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Have some Italian?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Too loose. Linguine all over the place. Not holding the sauce.

      3. Blue&White85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Juanfran.

    • Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Daniel Sturridge. What a man!!

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        + 42. In every sense of the word.

      2. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        I really was beginning to despair of Roy's team selection.

        As I wrote from day one...to go to a major tournament with some top strikers in our armoury is a rare thing of late. To then not play them in their rightful position, if at all, was criminal.

        If I was a club manager I wouldn't let Sturridge anywhere near my club...but as a national manager, who only needs a few games out of him, he's a top, top player.

      3. Syd.
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Kane should've been dropped from the starting line up he was awful in the first match and it continued into todays game.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          He wasn't any great shakes towards the tail end of the season tbh. Dropped right off.

        2. Backup Dancer
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          He's getting dropped from my team that's for sure.

          Looked short for confidence after skying that free kick.

    • Syd.
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Much better display by Northern Ireland

      Just need a goal now

    • ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Ukraine doing anything?

      1. Syd.
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Not really.

        Northern Ireland are the better team

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Wow.

        2. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Massively disagree with that.

    • Syd.
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Norman Whiteside what a player he was

      Love the beer too much

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Like so many !

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Beer. Mmmmmm ...

          I haven't been able to have beer for more than a year and a half ... 🙁

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 3 days ago

            But there has been compensation with the Soave.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 3 days ago

              This is true! 😆

              1. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 3 days ago

                Would be very grateful for info re the fpl leagues you run Doos.

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 3 days ago

                  Yes. Have I got your email?

                  1. George Sillett
                    • 10 Years
                    10 years, 3 days ago

                    No but it's cpwindsor@sky.com so respect is expected !

                    1. Ayew Serious
                      • 10 Years
                      10 years, 3 days ago

                      Uh oh. Sky...

                      1. George Sillett
                        • 10 Years
                        10 years, 3 days ago

                        Sky are great because when you threaten them with leaving they come grovelling with free unlimited broadband , low line rental and much reduced tv. Yes Murdock is a pillock but hey ................

                        1. Ayew Serious
                          • 10 Years
                          10 years, 3 days ago

                          I don't know too much about it tbh. I just know Doos isn't a fan of Mr. Murdoch

                        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          10 years, 3 days ago

                          I loathe the man.

                    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      10 years, 3 days ago

                      Right. On the waiting list. We are maximum 140, but there will be quite a bit of room.

                      Expect 1 or 2 emails, to which you must reply. 🙂

                      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 16 Years
                        10 years, 3 days ago

                        You have mail. 😀

                        1. George Sillett
                          • 10 Years
                          10 years, 3 days ago

                          Got one , replied . Thanks.

                        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          10 years, 3 days ago

                          One more - thank you! 🙂

                        3. George Sillett
                          • 10 Years
                          10 years, 3 days ago

                          Joined the euro league got the second e mail . Looking forward to seeing the t & c's. Many thanks Doos.

                        4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          10 years, 3 days ago

                          🙂

          2. Syd.
            • 17 Years
            10 years, 3 days ago

            Oh dear really sorry to hear that. Are you allowed any alcohol nowadays or is it a total no no after your illness?

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 3 days ago

              Oh, yes. Firstly, when I had my ileostomy, could not risk it because of wind. Now I'm reversed, I have to wait for a full heal. Probably 8 more weeks.

          3. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 3 days ago

            Has its pros and cons.
            Mainly cons I imagine, sorry

      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        might have lasted longer at United if he didn't, that's why Fergie shipped him

        Glorious player

    • Backup Dancer
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Got 3 Ukraine defenders and the keeper in my Daily 7s.

      Got to go big.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        The only way to go.

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          I went home instead

      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Just enjoy the game mate

    • sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      who would you say have been the 3 best right backs at the Euro so far?

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        All three English ones....Walker, Kane and Rooney.

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Walker.
        Srna.
        Ermmm ...

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Hysaj

      3. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Candreva

      4. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Walker , Candreva and Srna

        1. I Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Candreva isn't a right back. Playing wing back in this system but he's definitely a midfielder.

    • JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 days ago

      finding it hard to enjoy the football right now, totally senseless what has just happened here in the UK.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        What happened?

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 3 days ago

            Wow.

      2. 5678
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Same. Absolutely gutted.

      3. The Iron Tulip
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Question for those that play the sun fantasy game - if I bring in Muller right now, will his points take effect from tonight's game, or should I have made the transfer before the first game of the day?

      4. 420king
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Yesss, get in!!!! McAuley

      5. TorresMagic™
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Goal

      6. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Get in Gmac

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Love it mate

      7. Syd.
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

        Get in

      8. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        SCENES

      9. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        OMG mcauley

      10. VS10_
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Daily 7's was fun while it lasted. 5 Ukraine defenders and will be a big drop from 80 overall. 🙁

      11. Shels
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        DAMM

      12. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 days ago

        WBA defence!

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Bruntiesta may be the one

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 3 days ago

          One day, someone will say that in court ... 😉