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16 June 2016 414 comments
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The first of two Thursday evening Euro 2016 matches sees Michael O’Neill’s Northern Ireland face Ukraine, with both sides seeking the points having lost their opening Group C matches.

With Germany next up for Northern Ireland and Ukraine facing a tricky tie with Poland in their final match, this will be a contest that both will have earmarked as a must win.

However, goals may be hard to come by, with Mykhaylo Fomenko’s Ukraine managing just five attempts in their 2-0 loss to Germany. Northern Ireland have been even more shot-shy, recording a tournament worst two goal attempts in their 1-0 defeat to Poland.

Over their four match ups Northern Ireland have never beaten Ukraine, who are playing in only their second European Championship, having co-hosted Euro 2012.

If Ukraine are to once again prevail corners may be key: they won 12 against Germany, with only Spain winning more in the tournament’s opening set of fixtures.

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  1. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    Lol at Konoplyanka, knocked out by players who mostly can't in the Premier league he called poor 😀

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      He's quite overrated. Poor season at Sevilla.

  2. Shels
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 day ago

    hopefully germany hammer norn now

  3. Jay_
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Well done boys! Great performance!

    • The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Russia and Ukraine can go and have a war in the departure lounge 😛

      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        😆

        Although if Russia can nick a point from Wales on their way out that'll help us

      2. Mark-O
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Vroom vroom

      3. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Crimea River.

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Nice 🙂

          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            😉

      4. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        No fighting in the War Room.

    • Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Konoplonka

    • Liastro ⭐️
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Come on Müller. Let's have some returns.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Muller hat trick would be awesome haha

        1. Mark-O
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Captain armband still on Payet 🙁

      2. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        This. Hopefully Payet(C) haven't switched.

    • RÏɠBY
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      WOW! who'd have thunk?!! tremendous job norn isle
      sooo happy for them

      1. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        🙂

    • ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Northern Ireland well done. Incredible resulted

      1. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Thanks Bemba 🙂

    • KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Whether we make the last 16 or not nothing will take away this feeling..

      GAWA

      1. RÏɠBY
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        nice one

      2. Mark-O
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Gotta stop Poland then, assuming Germany tops the table

        Good luck to NIR

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          basically need Germany to win later. A German win means they would only need a point to top the group, whilst a point might well be enough to see NI into the last 16

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 17 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            3 points probably gets them through.

      3. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        As an honourary Northern Irishmen fir this tourny, I am chuffed

      4. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Well in son. big result

        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Huge mate was a worry after freezing against Poland that we were going to embarrass ourselves... not a hope in hell 🙂

      5. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        hopefully the Republic can follow up with a win on Saturday too

        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Hope so.. the tournament is much better with both sets of Irish fans for sure.. incredible

    • Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Iain Dowie had an orgasm when that second goal was scored.

      1. RÏɠBY
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        haha.. i really think he did

      2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Like heeeeeeeeey yoooooouuu guuuuuuyys

    • Play Pal
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Knobplywanka(c)

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        😆

      2. Shels
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Conan the planka

    • Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Remember when people said Sturridge shouldn't go to the Euros innit.

      1. Mark-O
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Haters gonna hate

      2. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        To be fair no one took those people seriously. Well I didn't

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Lol few populars on here said it

      3. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        more proof of how good Sturridge is, was involved in both goals.

        if Woy doesn't start Vardy + Sturridge over Sterling and Kane now he should be sent home

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Agreed. Wilshere over Rooney to. Yet again, he showed how undisciplined and off the pace he is

          1. djenzio
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            Rooney was alright, but I think Alli could be playing a more efficient role.

            Wilshere ain't much better than Rooney in fairness

            Adam Banana was very good today,

            Sterling was awful, as was Kane and most of the back 4 weren't great either

            1. SW6
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 1 day ago

              Amen. All praise Adam Lallana

              And Kyle Walker! 😀

          2. A.T
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            Rooneys been very good so far I thought

        2. Coldplay
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          I think it should be Kane and Sturridge up top with Vardy to come from the bench. What's Kane to do when he has Sterling and Lallana feeding (not) him?

          1. djenzio
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            Kane has done diddly squat in 2 games and I don't see why he should start over Vardy or Sturridge.

          2. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            As a striker, you need to create your own chances as well. You need to move and drop deep. Kane didn't do that

            1. Coldplay
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 1 day ago

              He does drop deep from time to time and I think the reason he hasn't been doing that more often is because he is isolated up top all alone. With Sturridge alongside, I think he could do well. Not taking anything away from Vardy, he's been brilliant too.

    • JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Massive shoutout to FFS's own Super Zlatan who is in the stadium in Lyon

    • Shels
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      9 rami
      8 payet
      5 shatov
      2 giroud
      2 pyatov
      1 rakisisky
      1 shevchuk
      0 stanciu

      28

      Ozil C
      Kroos
      Boateng
      ronaldo
      Nani
      Raphael Guerreiro
      Cech

      could still end up amazing :rolleyes

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        did you get the wrong Stanciu?

        1. Shels
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Just ended that way :/ the one I had is the one I wanted,

          it's ok used by wildcard to bring him in, and Ukrainian defenders

          -_-,

    • Coldplay
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      A brilliant result for Northern Ireland. Well deserved. Let's do the same in Froggy's tournament lads, shall we?

      1. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Wow a team mate 🙂 Already seen off the Poles 🙂

        1. Coldplay
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Finally! I have been looking for one myself but no luck until now. 🙂
          Let's get to the top then mate.

    • Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Anyone doing the sun game?

      What is the best 2 moves with 2 transfers left this gw.

      A shaquri to kroos
      B gru to muller
      C gru to pelle
      D Rodriguez to italian defender

      1. Backup Dancer
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        I like C, depends if Pelle will start the 3rd match though.

        Hopefully Muller performs tonight and B will be obvious.

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Thanks mate.good call regarding pelle too

    • SW6
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Hmm the FFS filter for swear words has got much stricter since I've been away.. 😆

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        😀 can't even put the less than sign!!

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          < 100

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            No spaces

      2. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        I can't believe they took sh1 te away from us. Especially when we have to watch Rooney

        1. SW6
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Exactly can't do; f e c k, either

      3. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        That's a bit crap.

        1. SW6
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          😯

      4. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        #jizzsacks

    • Shels
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      used by wildcard to bring in Ukrainian gk + defenders

      and stanciu

      well done me.

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        I would probably do similar. Thank God I only took a hit and saved WC.

      2. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Yikes

      3. RoyaleBlue
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Poland next? Silly move

        1. Shels
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          naw norn ire & a poor poland in opener, was worth a punt

          hasn't paid off, YET --__--,

    • Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Tripple Ukraina paid off well 😎

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        How. They didn't keep a cs or score. Most you could possibly have is 6 points from 3 players.

        You should raise your expectations if you think that paid of well

        1. Shels
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          3-0 win v poland, double goals from defenders, just u wait.

    • SW6
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Best in the World XI:

      ----------------Neuer
      Walker - Smalling - Ramos - Alba
      -------Modric - Dier - Rooney
      Sturridge ----- Vardy ----- Messi

      ...

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Someone will take this seriously

        1. SW6
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          http://tinyurl.com/zzojrpw 😉

      2. A.T
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Lol

        1. Jafooli
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Timbo you a mod again? Congrats 😀

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            Thought you would have been informed considering you're also a mod

            1. Jafooli
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 1 day ago

              As senior mod I'm not involved in such trivial things.....

          2. A.T
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            Free membership innit 😉

            1. Jafooli
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 1 day ago

              😛

              Just waiting for my invite now, checking the spam box everyday.

              1. A.T
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 1 day ago

                😀

      3. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        😀

      4. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        No McGinn 😯

      5. SW6
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Typed Joe Hart in but just couldn't post it 😆

        1. A.T
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Swear filter blocks it anyway

          1. A.T
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 1 day ago

            Although it doesn't cause you've just typed it 😳
            Puts it on to do list 🙁

      6. Coldplay
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        You forgot Lallana

        1. SW6
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Would've included as he's best but Messi has better stats and lots of fans

    • kojiro
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      well done Northern Ireland now Come on Polska !!!!
      Arek Milik 1-0
      kapustka 2-0

    • I Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      My subs are going to have to bail me out this week. All blankers so far except Payet.

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Payet(c), Bale and Rami here.

        Kono, Sommer and Giroud fail

        1. I Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 day ago

          Kozacik, Schar, Sapunaru, Dier, Konoplyanka, Matuidi and Giroud. 🙂

    • JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Already used Gotze

      Saving Muller for the knockouts 9or next week if Germany don't win today)

      Backing Draxler to score

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Take Ozil

    • tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      McGovern, you beauty!

    • shirtless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      So pleased for NI being 25% N Irish! Lots of family over there going nuts on FB. Be some sore heads in the morning. Good to see Big Norm in the studio too my boyhood hero! 🙂

    • KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      https://twitter.com/UnitedStandMUFC/status/743505992537739264

      Was there on Sunday gutted i missed this today

    • shirtless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      Just I shame I chopped McAuley out from all my drafts and went McNair to save funds 🙁

    • Syd.
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 day ago

      lol @ those you tripled up on Ukraine defenders

      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

      Next up The World Champions

      Bring them on

      1. Shels
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 day ago

        Stuck with them next match as-well