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17 June 2016 535 comments
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England left it late to defeat Wales, Northern Ireland excelled to collect a first tournament victory in 34 years and Poland and Germany laboured to a goalless draw. Here’s how yesterday’s Euro 2016 games panned out.

England 2 Wales 1

Bold half-time changes by Roy Hodgson ignited England’s Euro campaign, with substitutes Jamie Vardy (7.0) and Daniel Sturridge (7.5) earning the Three Lions their first ever come-from-behind tournament victory.

England dominated possession (71%), passing (505-206) and attempts (20-8) but walked off at half-time a goal down courtesy of a second free-kick strike of the tournament from Gareth Bale (10.5) – a shot Joe Hart (5.5) should have kept out.

Wales held out for ten minutes after the break before Vardy – owned by 17% of Uefa managers – put away a close range chance and the rest was wave after wave of England pressure until the influential Sturridge bundled home from a Dele Alli (6.5) assist.

The result and the performance puts Harry Kane’s immediate future in the first XI in doubt. The 8.5-priced forward in the official Uefa game had just two attempts and created one chance in a quiet first half, with Wayne Rooney (9.5) even taking over Kane’s corner duties.

The Manchester United man is now truly settled into his midfield role, and he was the match-leader for chances created (6) and crosses (10) and only Sturridge and Bale had more attempts than his three.

Bale, with four attempts, was again Wales’ only true attacking threat, aided and abetted by Neil Taylor (5.0), who put in six crosses.

But Taylor spent much of the match being pushed back by arguably England’s player of the tournament so far, right back Kyle Walker (5.0). The Tottenham defender put in seven crosses, created one chance and fired in a shot for excellent DraftKings returns.

Club mate Danny Rose (5.5), with four crosses and five clearances, blocks and interceptions (CBI) was another solid DraftKings performer. As was the tireless Aaron Ramsey (7.5), who won four tackles, put in six crosses, created a chance and had one attempt himself.

By the end of the match, England were fielding four of their five Uefa game-listed forwards. The squad is looking strong, their destiny is in their own hands and they have controlled both of their matches to date. Now looks to be the time to invest strongly in Hodgson’s men, with Sturridge, who had four goal attempts in just 45 minutes of action, and Vardy looking stronger picks than Kane on current form.

As for Wales, they came for a point and came agonisingly close to gaining it. Another draw, against Russia, should be enough to see them through, but it is still difficult to look beyond Bale and Ramsey for consistent Fantasy returns.

Ukraine 0 Northern Ireland 2

Hodgson wasn’t the only manager to be bold on Day 7 of the European Championships, Michael O’Neill making five changes from the Northern Ireland team that lost tamely to Poland.

The big call was the benching of key striker Kyle Lafferty (7.0), with Conor Washington (5.0) taking his place in a side geared up for victory against Ukraine.

Northern Ireland pressed high and played with real pace throughout, forcing Ukraine goalkeeper Andriy Pyativ into five saves. His counterpart, Michael McGovern (4.5) made four.

No team scored more qualifying goals from set-pieces than Northern Ireland’s nine, so it was no surprise when Gareth McAuley (5.0) tucked away a far post header from an excellent Oliver Norwood (5.5m) delivery to open the scoring in the second half.

Chances then came and went for both sides before Niall McGinn (6.0) pounced on a rebound from Stuart Dallas’s (5.0) shot to seal the deal late in stoppage time.

As the side’s principal free kick taker, Norwood remains an attractive option both in the official Uefa game and DraftKings. As well as his assist, he created a further chance, put in two crosses (both successful) and had one attempt.

But the true star of Northern Ireland’s tournament to date is centre half Jonny Evans (5.0). After taming Robert Lewandowski in the first match, Evans was a driving force at both ends of the pitch against Ukraine.

He crossed twice and created two chances going forward and managed ten clearances, blocks and interceptions (CBI) – only goalscorer McAuley had more – to feature strongly in DraftKings.

Midfielder Yevhen Konoplyanka (7.5) was Ukraine’s main threat, firing in four attempts, setting up two chances and putting in a match-leading eight crosses.

Just the one Northern Ireland player is currently owned by more than 1% of official game managers – and he’s not played a single minute yet. Will Grigg (5.0) is the man and his popularity presumably rests in that song.

More managers might be tempted to invest in Northern Ireland players after such a fine display, but they do face Germany in their final group match.

Ukraine are now as good as out, and whatever side is put out to face Poland is unlikely to get many Fantasy backers.

Poland 0 Germany 0

The first goalless draw of Euro 2016 suited both sides, but it was Poland left to rue what might have been.

Arkadiusz Milik (7.5), the match-winner against Northern Ireland, had two great chances and fluffed them both during a second half when the Poles came out of their shell and stretched their opponents.

Germany still out-shot their opponents 16-7 but never looked like scoring, and although Manuel Neuer (6.0) didn’t have a save to make all match, back-to-back clean sheets flatters a defence that could well struggle against more progressive and ruthless opponents.

Matts Hummels (6.5) returned from injury, replacing Shkodran Mustafi (5.0) at centre half, but Jonas Hector (5.5) was the stand-out performer in their back line – for his threat going forward.

Germany relied almost exclusively on their left flank in attack, with Hector completing a match-leading 11 crosses (although none were successful) and creating one chance. In comparison, Hector’s fellow full-back, Benedikt Howedes (5.0), only managed two crosses.

Toni Kroos (7.0) backed up his influential performance against Ukraine with another busy display (three chances created, eight crosses, three shots) that earned him solid DraftKings returns, but Tomas Muller (10.5) again failed to live up to his price tag in a misfiring German front four. The Bayern Munich man managed a solitary goal attempt, which was off target.

Another big ticket striker, Robert Lewandowski (11.5), was also off the pace. In two matches, the Bayern Munich star has been starved of service, reduced to just five penalty area touches and two shots, neither of which have been on target.

As the second-most expensive striker in the official Uefa game, Lewandowski is surely in the last chance saloon. Muller is not far behind him in the queue.

Poland should ease past a deflated Ukraine in their final match, and Kamil Grosicki (7.0) turned in a decent enough performance (three chances created, three crosses and one attempt) to merit consideration.

The Germans will find a buoyant Northern Ireland a handful and will need to put in a far better attacking display if they are to prevail.

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  1. LǝgleSs e|even
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Captaincy Confusion:

    1.Giaccherini
    2.Juanfran
    3.Perisic
    4.Mandžukić
    5. Nolito

    Arguments:
    - Gut says Perisic
    - JONTY did mention Mandžukić,
    - Turkey were very lucky not to concede 5 against Croatia hence Nolito?

    Confucius say?

    1. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      3 or 2 for me. Nolito didn´t look that sharp last game. Juanfran had some dangerous crosses if I remember correctly. I didn´t see perisic myself, but I heard he was good.

    2. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      2

  2. esteban17
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Guys, need your help please..
    So I have these players for today: De Gea, Juanfran, Bonucci, Giaccherini, Candreva, Perisic
    Who do you think I should captain?
    IMO Spain will keep a CS today, I think SWE has more options to score than Turkey..

    So.. take not to much risk and captain Juanfran, or go for Giaccherini?

    1. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I would go for Juanfran, I thought he looked dangerous in the attacks too.

      1. esteban17
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, that's what I think too, cause he has the best chances for CS and also maybe for an assist..

      2. La Vida Latte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Just looked at their stats and Giaccerini is mor attacking. They both had the same amount of crosses, but Giaccerini seems more attacking othewise.

  3. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Morata will start right?

    1. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Surely

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I'd say yes.myour contemplating giving him the armband right?

  4. CFC1990
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Playing the Sun Game:

    Who would you swap Muller out for:

    a) Ibra?
    b) Pelle?
    c) Morata?
    d) Lukaku?

    Patricio
    JuanFran, Evra, Kaderabek, Schar
    KDB, Kroos, Payet
    Giroud, Muller, Ronaldo

    2 Emergency Transfers

    Many thanks

    1. Hooky
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      A or B. I've gone with Ibra due to the added pens and free-kicks threat

      1. CFC1990
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks mate. I think you raise a good point.

        1. Louis123
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          Morata for me. Like Ronaldo, Ibra looks a tad short on form. Think of the service Morata gets. #silvainiestanolly

  5. Rasping Drive
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Such a relief to take a break from FF, I can enjoy the games now for what they are.

    Er, but just out of interest, are the games any good?

    1. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Sigh, by which I mean fantasy games

      1. fitzy
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        In comparison to FPL the official site is a nightmare.

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      It's a bit rubbish in my opinion

      Waste of time and energy but somehow I'm still playing

      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Haha, brilliant!

    3. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I really like it

      Site is a bit 1990 but game and strategy is great , love the bench and captain options , but I've always enjoyed these international types of games

      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks all. I am pleased I stayed out.

        I think.

  6. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    If I didn't bench Giroud for Calhanoglu and then him for Denayer in last matchday, I would be 5th in the world. 🙁

    1. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      If I had all the players with big hauls so far I would be first

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        This comment is stupid and has no link with my post.

        1. JÆKS ⭐
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          Haha 😀 You play fantasy pl as well, you should know that that's part of the game. I ended up with Junuzovic (C) last week, could have climbed the ranks as well IF I didn't change my captain from Giroud to start with. If I captained Schär over Hamsik......

          It's in the past, it's done, focus on what's coming, good luck for the rest of the game btw, you're doing great so far I've seen!

          1. Dušan Citizen
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            Thank you, same to you. 🙂 What's your rank?

            1. JÆKS ⭐
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 8 months ago

              Not great, around 20K somewhere atm, had a pretty awful start. Topping my ML though with 95 points, the main rivals are on 94,93,92 points 😀

  7. Liastro ⭐️
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Are most wildcarding before the third group games?

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      There or QFs, but before MD3 catches price rises supposedly.

  8. Yankee Toffee
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Subasic, Srna, Corluka, Vida, Strinic, Modric, Badelj, Brozovic, Rakitic, Perisic, Mandzukic.

    This is what the Daily Mail is predicting. Does this look right to yous?

    1. fitzy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Strinic likely to rotated out for vrsawhateverhisnameis

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Why "Likely"? Because he's the tinker man? He shouldnt't rotated. They got a CS last time out. I think it's rumours.

        1. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          not even rumours, just something invented by and then run with by FFS posters

          1. Yankee Toffee
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            I think I have to agree.

            1. pompeyfan
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 8 months ago

              you will find lineups for any team with multiple variations if you look hard enough. Of course there's a chance of rotation for any players, but posters here seem to have snowballed it into he will likely not start.

              1. Konig Luther
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 8 months ago

                yeah.. there is one more recent for Croatia. (with Strinic starting). i was just pointing the people were spreading something they saw (not invented)

                1. Yankee Toffee
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 8 months ago

                  Thanks for sharing, both you two, It's worth considering. Cheers!

                2. pompeyfan
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 8 months ago

                  fair enough, probably not the best wording from me there!

            2. Yankee Toffee
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 8 months ago

              So, that is a Croatian News source? When was that posted, today?

                1. Yankee Toffee
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 8 months ago

                  So there are conflicting reports because that one is showing:

                  Srna, Ćorluka, Vida, Strinić, Badelj, Modrić, Brozović, Rakitić, Perišić i Mandžukić.

                  I guess we won't know until the match. I wish it was the first one so we could see the lineup!

    2. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      i see Brozovic starting at CM and Pjaca at RM

  9. esteban17
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Which one to captain?
    1. Juanfran
    2. Giaccherini
    3. Candreva
    4. Perisic
    5. Bonucci
    6. De Gea

  10. JÆKS ⭐
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    So much talk about wildcarding after this gameweek because of rotation. But I have 2 concers about this

    1. Will there really be so much rotation? France and Germany for example won't risk resting all of their best players if this means not finishing first in their group right? England still has an important game and if Croatia and Spain win today, they will face each other next game with first place at stake there.

    2. If there will be some rotation, how will we know which players will be rotated. Will it be someone of the caliber of Muller or more likely someone like Draxler, who has been less important for the team in previous years.

    1. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I think the big point is to prepare for the knock outs. After the group stage, prices will change, and players from knocked out teams may become unavailable. If these changes happen before we get to play our round of 16 wildcard, we miss out on price risers, get stuck with droppers, and lose a chance to get some cheap players allowing us to have 11 starters in Germany-Spain final. Unless we anticipate and play wildcard already for GW3.

      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        But why do you want players from knocked out teams?

        1. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          Not specially from them, but they often have the cheapest players, and it usually is important in these WC/EC games to secure an extremely cheap player or two early on in order to afford all the star players in the final matches where everybody is darn expensive.

          It is not unlikely that some teams wit cheap players make it to the knock outs (Hungary? Northern Ireland?), but we don't know if heir players then have price rises before the round of 16 transfer window opens. Actually, we know very little about it at all.

          1. JÆKS ⭐
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            Well I have been thinking about it myself and it seems pretty useless to wildcard now if we can beat the price changes by activating the wildcard right after the last game. With Strinic and Guerreiro, you already have 2 great 4.0 options with a great chance of going through to the next round and like you said, some smaller teams as well now there are more countries involved in this EC.

    2. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I have been asking the same questions as I think wild carding next matchday is the equivalent of wild carding in gw38 in FPL.

      I think the fact that so little is known about the pricing makes it an odd time to chase price rises, but the bigger issue for me is that the strategy involves stacking your squad with players from eliminated teams, which is the most baffling since the one mechanism we know (and I like) is that a squad of fifteen active players can be used in each round and is a very helpful strategy.

      Wild card between R16 and QF makes the most sense to me since the pool of available players goes from 16 to 8, and there are only four FTs that round. If you have triple France and double England and they both get eliminated, you've lost five players and have only four FTs with which to replace them.

  11. Bobbyg1
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Sorry for newbie question but can i make a transfer today?

    1. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Nope

    2. Yankee Toffee
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Substitution yes, transfer no

  12. Scheister
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Having a tough time with the armband today. Who is more likely to earn points:

    Ramos
    Perisic

    1. esteban17
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Ramos for sure, I can't see Turkey scoring today..

  13. TheBusDriver
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Was 5k yesterday, now I'm 55k. GG WD...

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      😆

  14. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Are there going to price rises/falls in the official uefa fantasy game?

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      yes, after GW3....I believe

  15. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Is Zlatan a must for fantasy 7's, or is the Italy defence too much for him?

  16. Yankee Toffee
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    I'm level top of my ML. I can already see that my opponent has capped Juanfran. So do I:

    a. Cap Juanfran so I don't lose any potential ground.
    b. Cap Giaccerini and try to pull away.

    I know it's only GW2, but its not a very long tournament...

    1. esteban17
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Have you got many differentials to him?

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Generally quite the same, I have Fab, Giacc and Subasic. He has Perisic.

        We both have Juanfran and Strinic

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          I'd go Juanfran then.

          1. Yankee Toffee
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            Going Giaccerini, I feel like I could make up the 6 if Spain get the CS

  17. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Giacherinni, Ramos, Perisic or Morata for the armband ? Switched between them all now a few times.

    1. JLAEST
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Perisic if you are trailing/wanna risk. Ramos if you're sitting top.

    2. Dušan Citizen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Sergio

    3. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers to you both

    4. Blurryface
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Giacherreni

  18. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Whom would you prefer in fantasy 7s? Giaccherini or Zlatan? Dont want both.

    1. Hank10
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Giac

    2. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      After yesterday's 5 Ukraine defenders failed big time I'm going 3 Spain def, 3 Italy def and Srna.

  19. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Is Morata bad option for C?

    1. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Not a bad option, should have scored last game, but didn't take his chances. Just be wary that If the same happens again Aduriz will probably come on after 60.

      1. juggos
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        This is always gonna be the fear with Morata but his ceiling seems really really high. Hoping for a brace today from him

  20. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Did Giaccherini play as wingback or as CM against Belgium?

    1. Dušan Citizen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      or as AM even better?

    2. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      CM

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        ty

    3. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      De Rossi
      Parolo - Giacherrini is Italy's midfield

  21. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    England will qualify without kicking a ball if..

    Croatia beat Czech Republic and Spain beat Turkey in Friday evening's Group D matches, and Romania fail to beat Albania when Group A concludes on Sunday evening.

    Chances? 🙂

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Pretty likely IMO

    2. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      you really have to go out of your way not to qualify this time!

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Haha, I know but would like it confirmed before we play Slovakia

    3. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      pretty sure one of the best 3rd will come from group B and C

    4. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Who do England face if they come third?

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        A Group winner, Likely Germany or Spain

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          I'd fancy ye to frustrate Germany 🙂 their defence is definitely breachable by your strikers.

          Spain might be a tougher test as it would put England's defence + midfield under a lot of pressure..

  22. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Ramos is really tempting me but I'm going to stick the armband on Perisic. He could of had double digits in the first game... Hopefully it pays off. I'd take an assist.

  23. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Who has the stronger defence? Spain or Italy?

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Spain.

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Until Ramos gets sent off

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          I already had that with Dragovic (c) last Matchday not again please.

    2. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Italy have the better defensive unit (IMO, obviously) but Spain's whole team and style make them harder to score against.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Sound analysis to me.

      2. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        +1

        I think that's how Germany have gotten away with their poor defensive showing so far.. They just keep the ball too well for teams to capitalise on momentum.

        (also they've gotten lucky)

  24. MGD
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Captain:
    1. Iniesta
    2. Juanfran.
    3. Darmian.
    4. Perisic

    Hm...

    1. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Darmian not expected to start. Juanfran if you're happy with 6 points, Perisic if you're feeling a bit more lucky today.

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      3 could be benched.

      2 or 4 for me.

    3. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I've gone for Juanfran.

    4. juggos
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      4 if you have a strong option for captaincy tomorrow. If not, 2

      1. sloppy
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        I have Ronaldo and KDB for captaincy options tomorrow but the way things have gone I'm not sure how "strong" of options they are...

  25. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Off topic:

    I know there are some really knowledgable and well-read people (not just regarding football) around so I thought I'd try here. Anyone got any beautiful but not clichéd poems or excerpts about love/marriage up their sleeves? We are really struggling and running out of time.

    1. Louis123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Just read the lyrics to Love and Marriage by Frank Sinatra. You can't go wrong with ole blue eyes

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        'You can't have one without the other..'??

      2. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        'Go together like a horse and carriage... It's an institution you can't disparage. Ask the local gentry and they'll say it's elementary'.

        Profound.

    2. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      This might fall into the realms of cliché these days because of how popular he has become, but just in case you haven't come across him, Kahlil Gibran wrote some of the best words I've ever read about many topics but particularly about love and marriage in his work The Prophet - http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jrcole/gibran/prophet/prophet.htm

      Then Almitra spoke again and said, "And what of Marriage, master?"
      And he answered saying:
      You were born together, and together you shall be forevermore.
      You shall be together when white wings of death scatter your days.
      Aye, you shall be together even in the silent memory of God.
      But let there be spaces in your togetherness,
      And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
      Love one another but make not a bond of love:
      Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
      Fill each other's cup but drink not from one cup.
      Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
      Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
      Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.
      Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping.
      For only the hand of Life can contain your hearts.
      And stand together, yet not too near together:
      For the pillars of the temple stand apart,
      And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        I've seen this before and really like it but apparently not allowed it for a civil ceremony because of 'religious content'. Who thought rebelling against my clergyman of a father and not having a church wedding was a good idea? Oh... me.

        1. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          That's a shame. To me, although the poem has some spiritual overtones, it always felt like quite a profoundly humanist piece.

      2. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks for this Rosc.

    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Roses are red, violets are blue
      Wales 1, England 2

      Sorry, been engaged 5 times and divorced twice so I'm the last person to offer help! Good luck 🙂

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          Haha first comment:

          "Roses are red
          Violets are red
          Trees are red
          My garden's on fire"

          1. Meimei
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            oh s*** my garden is on fire ahahah

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        5 times?! You really are wild 😀

    4. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think I can be of much help here, but congrats Lucy! 🙂

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks TFF. Outdoor wedding so need the weather to improve pronto!

  26. Costa's Counsellor
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Any KDB news?

    I won't have any internet tomorrow so need to take a punt one way or another...

    1. sloppy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Had a tight hamstring this week but he is expected to be fine for the game tomorrow

    2. RustyBz
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Expected to play, no confirmation yet. But you might not get one

    3. Costa's Counsellor
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks guys

  27. puddingbrood
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Isn't Brozovic a good option? Also had some great chances and had 6 shots compared to perisic's 2.

  28. Ayew Serious
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    No fpl hot topic?

    1. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Strange.

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        I've been planning far too much and no one else is discussing, suppose it's very very early 🙂

        1. BigManBakar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          Looks as if most are busy with the Fantasy Euros, I guess.

  29. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Evening, gents!

  30. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Fresh page, please.