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14 August 2016 2166 comments
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Jose Mourinho returns to the Premier League with a sun soaked Vitality Stadium providing the backdrop.

AFC Bournemouth host Mourinho and his Manchester United charges in today’s early kick-off, with Eddie Howe’s men attempting to follow Hull City’s lead and rip up the script.

Certainly today’s meeting will provide a stern test of Mourinho’s work over the summer – a tight pitch, a tight ground and a home side bristling with pace via Josh King, Callum Wilson and new signing Jordan Ibe.

But United have Zlatan Ibrahimovic; the Swede heads into the match having been handed the armband by 21% of Fantasy Premier League managers. It remains to be seen if he can keep pace with Sergio Aguero who was backed by 34% and rewarded them with a 9-point return in the day one win over Sunderland.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Owd Big 'Ed
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Manchester United look no different to how they were last season under van Gaal. Didn't expect them to be either. The point I am making is that for all of these new inspirational, tactical genius managers that come in, very little changes.

    1. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      It's been 45 minutes and José has had next to no time to imprint his style on the squad. Premature.

      1. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Alright then. They look exactly the same as they were in van Gaal's first game in charge.

      2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        This is Joses imprint

      3. djenzio
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        City looked a different team though one game in, they lacked end product but you could see Pep's style already. This Utd team looks no different to a LVG set up

    2. djenzio
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      they will win more games than last season but it will be dull drawn out grinded results. That's Jose though don't know why people think they will suddenly play attractive attacking football.

      1. Mull
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        He'll be praised for things that Van Gaal was criticised for.

        1. Owd Big 'Ed
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Exactly this. He has that advantage in that the media love him. LVG made an enemy of the media which was ultimately his downfall.

    3. Jar Jar Winks
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I say the first 3/4 games is all about getting the points on the board whichever way it's achieve.After that teams generally start to express themselves more.

    4. Cecil The Lion
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Rooney in the middle really affects that. Mkhi on the right and Mata in the middle of the three behind Zlatan would change that.

    5. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Please can we stop with these comments. It's been 45mins seriously

      1. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I am merely making the point that managers in the main don't make as big a difference as the media suggest. It's the players on the pitch that do that. The presence of weekly press conferences and constant, banal analysis has increased the role of the modern manager as we know it.

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          But how can you tell if a difference has been made only 45mins into their first game? Bit early to judge no?

          1. djenzio
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            look at City, and LFC last season. Pep/Klopp had more of an instant impact and Klopp didn't even have a pre-season. Jose has had a whole summer to get his team to play his way yet they look exactly the same as last season.

            Sure it's early days but you think pre-season is enough time to imprint more of his own tactics.

            1. FPL Blow-In
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 1 month ago

              How many mins have Mkhitaryan and Pogba played in pre-season? Pep/Klopp have a completely different style to what Mourinhio does also. They press and attack a lot more.

          2. Owd Big 'Ed
            • 17 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Yes. I'm just making the point generally rather than related to Man Utd specifically. For that reason I think Spurs will do well this season and don't think Liverpool will be as good as people think.

        2. Worzel Gummidge
          10 years, 1 month ago

          It's been 45 minutes FFS. I am not a Man U fan but these posts are embarrassing

          1. FPL Blow-In
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Unbelievable

          2. Owd Big 'Ed
            • 17 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            So we shouldn't have any discussion on football matches until about 3-4 games in? Alright then, great logic.

        3. Seb Wassell
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          You cannot claim this unless you work at a professional football club. Without that insight you cannot possibly know and are merely speculating.

    6. mattyrobinson
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Think they'll be much better this season. Genuine target man in Ibrahimovic, and solid box to box midfielder in Pogba. Going to be poles apart from LVG sideways stuff.

    7. Sánchez
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yet to see Mkhi and Pogba.
      Winning away after 45mins.

      Is it really that bad?

      1. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        No, it's just boring.

        1. Sánchez
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          He was always boring. Even with Real Madrid

    8. Ady87
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Eh, Pogba and Miki, potentially the two most necessary adjustments to the team, aren't featuring. Give it a bit of time yeah?

      1. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Well it doesn't take a genius manager to know that bringing in one of the worlds best midfielders is going to have an impact.

    9. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      They a joke.

    10. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      True for United, but City played in a style never seen in the UK yesterday. I was excited by that even if it's not polished yet.

    11. John Barnes
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      i'd sub rooney for mkhi...

  2. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    This game is crying out for Mkhi in the middle of the pitch.

    1. djenzio
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      rude

      1. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        ?

        1. djenzio
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          no Mkhi's on the pitch! (maybe you have to be Irish to get the slang)

          1. John Barnes
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            mkhi's not on the pitch

  3. Arceus
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    News Flash: Assist of Mata's goal has been credited to Ibrahimovic for bonking the wits out of Francis' brains earlier.

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      😆

  4. Zoostation
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Man U attack looks just dire.

    Obviously you hold their attackers for the next 2 GW but if this doesn't improve it will be a firesale.

    Yes I realize it's only 45min.

    1. Jay_
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Hull away don't look so easy anymore. Davies' pocket is waiting for Ibra

      1. djenzio
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        agree. think Utd will struggle. 0-0 easily.

      2. Zoostation
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        They just have zero movement up to Ibrahimovic.

        Such a plodding uninspired half.

  5. S.Kuqi
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Didn't see first half. Based on comments Zlatan hasn't done anything 😐

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      0 touches in the box, 0 shots.

    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Carrying on from the Euros...

    3. djenzio
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      what do people expect. That's how he plays. I don't own him but still think he only needs one chance to score.

  6. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I honestly think Rooney needs to be dropped, stick Mata in the hole and when Mkhitaryan is fit play him right

    It's laughable how United feel the need to play him to try and justify giving him that new mega contract. Pride has been their downfall, just bench him.

    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Rumours that there is a clause in his contract that guarantees him games

      1. Cecil The Lion
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        That is laughable.

        1. Numb
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          I know. Just what I heard.

  7. MrMaverick
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    glad it was mata on the end of francis error.

    could have been ibra

    1. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Great commentary.

  8. Kane Train
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Who got Utd assist

  9. EmreCan Hustle
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Assist for Mata goal ?

    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      There wasn't one

    2. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      None

      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers Andy and Bowstring.

    3. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      nobody

    4. spiritof82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      None apparently, due to Francis/Boruc mess-up. Pass was Herrera though.

    5. Big Sum
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      francis

    6. Oooof
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Francis

      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers all.

    7. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Francis

    8. Arceus
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Francis "assisted" twice 2x3 pts

  10. spiritof82
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Ibra will probably score in the second half and everyone will be back to lamenting Kane and Vardy. If/when United click - be that today or in a few week's time - he will invariably be a major beneficiary. One thing I'd suggest though, is that Zlatan may be one of those annoying strikers, like Defoe and Costa, who can score goals without necessarily picking up bonus points.

    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, could be. He's a pure goalscorer

    2. Mull
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      You'll never see a group of people change their opinion so quickly than when a player scores.

    3. Davidinho
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      One of the reasons I didn't go for him, don't see him picking up bonus points

    4. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Agreed. I am expecting him to be extremely annoying this season, scoring odd goals and ticking over but never really justifying the 11.5m. Not like RVP.

      Watch him score a brace in the second half now.

    5. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      That is what I expect. Will most likely need a brace or 1+1 to get the baps needed

  11. Clumsy Sakho
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Preparing for Firmino's hatrick 😉

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      unlikely, I own him

      1. Clumsy Sakho
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        God damn it Annie

      2. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I like your confidence!

    2. MrMaverick
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      same here

    3. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Sadio Mané*

    4. arthadox
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Sanchez*

    5. Big Sum
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Walcott's*

  12. JÆKS ⭐
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    If the 2nd half stays the same, and Costa delivers, I guess I won't be the only one bringing Costa in (for Vardy in my case) 🙁

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      🙂

    2. spiritof82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      What?! You don't fancy Vardy against Arsenal's makeshift back four? Just because he blanked yesterday, don't chase points. Stand by your pre-GW1 choice. You made it for a reason. A blank yesterday doesn't mean he won't make up for it next week - some would say it makes it more likely. Surprisingly few players score in consecutive games, especially with early season rust.

      1. Clumsy Sakho
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        By next week it could Bellerin Mustafi koscienly Monreal with Xhaka and Coquelin in front - not so weak IMO

      2. JÆKS ⭐
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        It was Mahrez + Costa or Vardy + Alli from the start and shift to Costa + Alli for gw 2. The only reason that I would have kept Vardy is when he would have been superb. He had some chances but when a striker misses these chances, he's not in his best form. Leicester will also struggle, they looked very very weak.

      3. Davidinho
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Google gamblers fallacy. Scoring in one game (or not) generally doesn't affect the likelihood of scoring in the next game.

  13. Thomas Magnum
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Ozil would've passed it. Why couldn't Mata have been like Ozil?

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Who would not take a chance like that to score? Nobody would have passed it.

    2. Arceus
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      He must make Mourinho stop substituting and selling him.

  14. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I will be watching the Arsenal Vs Liverpool match from behind the couch, Have no player from either teams!

    1. Clumsy Sakho
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Ouch - whatever happens you lose

      1. Sánchez
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        1-1, both own goals

    2. Mull
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Just letting you know the likely centre backs for Arsenal are Chambers and Holding. Have fun 😉

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Hoping for a good performance from Holding and Cech 😆

    3. Thomas Magnum
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yep same here

    4. Nomar
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Taken a punt on Rambo.

  15. Jay_
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Funny old game, after spending hours and hours debating wether to roll the dice on Oscar or not, I decided to chance it and go with him. Now I want him not to feature at all so I can get my Capoue 10 pointer and straight switch Ayew and captain him next week as I'm going the game and no standout other options.

    1. Cecil The Lion
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      West Ham and going to the game? There is no way I wouldn't have put Ayew ahead of Oscar to begin with

  16. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know how many more years there are on Rooney's contract?

    1. Thomas Magnum
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Whatever it is it's too many

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      They'll offer him a new one.

  17. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Rooney's been very good. The way he pings that ball to the wingers is a thing of beauty. Shame the other utd players arent on his wave length

    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Nice try!

    2. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Has to be sarcasm.

    3. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Lol

    4. Mull
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Agreed. Best player on the pitch and anyone who disagrees is racist.

    5. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'm sure he appreciates the support, Mrs Rooney.

  18. Syd.
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    This is a typical Mourhino performance

    Bore the life out of us

  19. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Valencia looking like taking bonus points?

    1. Clumsy Sakho
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      1

  20. Venom Snake
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    If you watch the game in slow motion Rooney still looks at full pace

    1. Cecil The Lion
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      😆

  21. devils advocate
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    For as long as Rooney butchers the number 10 role MU will never be the free scoring team we use to be, regardless of how many stars we sign.

    Watch the difference between someone like Mata compared to Rooney when either receives the ball in the middle of the park.

    A true number 10 is always looking forward for a forward pass, and if there isn't one there they are willing to take on their man to open the space up to find that pass or shot.

    I have never seen Rooney do any of these things when receiving the ball in that number 10 role.

    I respect Rooney for everything he has achieved for our club, but he has never been, nor ever will be, a number 10, and he needs to step aside if this club is to progress to the heights we once knew.

    Written by a dedicated and passionate MU supporter for the past 26 years.

    (drops mic)

    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Rooney has been horribly indulged by club and country for the last 3 seasons or so.

    2. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Good post. Rooney is finished. The maccas and ciggys have caught up.

  22. John Barnes
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    ibra's probably waiting for that odd chance of heading the ball in... well, this isn't Ligue1... and perhaps not so easy to out muscle cook like morgan last week...

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Cook isn't that good

      1. Rusty Nail
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Rooney just put him in his backside

  23. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know why Mandanda wasn't playing for Palace?

    1. Clumsy Sakho
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not match fit

    2. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Alan Pardew is his manager.

  24. mattyrobinson
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Rooney has long been the scapegoat for Man Utd's lack of creativity. I don't know what people expect him to be doing, he's never going to be controlling the game like a Fabregas, Ozil or Silva... He's playing up front...

    1. Cecil The Lion
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      That's the point. He's not playing up front. He's playing in the space a Fabregas, Ozil or Silva plays in

      1. devils advocate
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        That's it exactly the point.

        Who's more like Ozil, Fab and Silva? Rooney? Or Mata/Miki/Pogba?

        Rooney has no comparable skills against the likes of the best number 10's in the world (great first touch, incredible vision, forward thinking silky skills), and unfortunately that's the role he is playing.

    2. La Roja
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      We expect creativity from Rooney

    3. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      were you high when you wrote this?

  25. Greenbackbøøg…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    how is that a goal kick lmao

  26. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Lacazette goal

    1-0 Lyon

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Parting gift.

      1. Declan
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Hopefully

    2. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A bead of sweat rolls down Wenger's forehead...

  27. EDEN THE MAN
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Wilson has looked quite sharp for Bournemouth even though he hasn't reall had an opp.

    Do you guys think Mahrez will have a good season.

  28. MrMaverick
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    how many of us own firmino?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A lot do.

    2. Cecil The Lion
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      'Us'? I thought you were a maverick?

    3. willl
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      he was in the majority of RMTs i think

    4. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      o/

  29. Martial Eriksen
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Can't imagine there's any Man Utd fan that thinks that Rooney should be on the pitch.. At least not as forward or no10... He lost his mojo two seasons ago..

    1. faver
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      he lost his mojo when he 'grow' hair back

      1. Martial Eriksen
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Witchcraft

      2. willl
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Its all down to being less aerodynamic.

  30. djenzio
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Mata has prob been Utd best player for a while yet still can't cement his place in the first time. Odd.

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Because he's too short